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On 24/3/2018 at 10:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's really easy. You just open and constrict your throat and breath in/out through the nose. You'll get the hang of it in a week or two.

Regarding this Ujjayi Pranayama, I find it really difficult to get the SHAAW and SHEEE sounds. 
Also the picture in the book shows that oxygen is going through the mouth, not through the nose?

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2 hours ago, korbes said:

Regarding this Ujjayi Pranayama, I find it really difficult to get the SHAAW and SHEEE sounds. 
Also the picture in the book shows that oxygen is going through the mouth, not through the nose?

Same here man. Please let me know if you come across any really useful guides.


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4 hours ago, korbes said:

Regarding this Ujjayi Pranayama, I find it really difficult to get the SHAAW and SHEEE sounds. 
Also the picture in the book shows that oxygen is going through the mouth, not through the nose?

Breathing is always done through the nose.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Breathing is always done through the nose.

Ah okay, thanks!

I just feel it's quite hard to obtain the SHEEE sound, the exhalation, because when I contract my glottis I can't get air through, so it just has to be a narrow opening in the exhalation right? And do I exhale calmly or with some force?

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@korbes It's actually really easy. Pretend like you are trying to fog up a mirror with your breath. But then close your mouth, letting the air go out through the nose.

Experiment with various degrees of constriction of the throat until you get a nice sound going and it feels solid.

Your throat needs to constrict almost as much as possible in order to slow down the air as much as possible, so you can do long slow breaths.

It's almost like sucking in air through a straw. But you are using your throat as the straw.


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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@korbes It's actually really easy. Pretend like you are trying to fog up a mirror with your breath. But then close your mouth, letting the air go out through the nose.

Experiment with various degrees of constriction of the throat until you get a nice sound going and it feels solid.

Your throat needs to constrict almost as much as possible in order to slow down the air as much as possible, so you can do long slow breaths.

It's almost like sucking in air through a straw. But you are using your throat as the straw.

Thanks so much Leo


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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@korbes It's actually really easy. Pretend like you are trying to fog up a mirror with your breath. But then close your mouth, letting the air go out through the nose.

Experiment with various degrees of constriction of the throat until you get a nice sound going and it feels solid.

Your throat needs to constrict almost as much as possible in order to slow down the air as much as possible, so you can do long slow breaths.

It's almost like sucking in air through a straw. But you are using your throat as the straw.

Wonderful explanation, thanks alot!

 

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@Leo Gura Earlier you said you'd recommend 24 KP's/Session with the technique described in the "basic book". Do you only do KP3 or KP1 & 2 as well (like it's recommended in the book)?

Also: Have you tried stopping the breath at every chakra? It's an alternative/recommended technique. 

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5 hours ago, Torch said:

Is it safe to do kriya supreme fire as a newbie?

as the author says, build up your breath retention to 90 seconds first, and than slowly go for it ;)


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On 9/9/2018 at 2:09 PM, Greenbirch said:

I stopped Kriya after 6 days of practice (Nadi Sodhana, Ujjayi Pranayama, Talabaya Kriya, Om Japa, concentration a little over 5 minutes) due to insomnia and exhaustion.

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Update: I am doing Kriya yoga again, even Kriya Pranayama. No side effects so far. I think my earlier adverse response to Kriya yoga had to do with two things potentially: 

  1.  A week before starting Kriya yoga I had an intense Kundalini experience: hot energy rose up my spine and cool air come out of my head. I was in some kind of an elevated state for about two weeks after that. When I started to do Kriya, I got insomnia. I suspect starting yoga when something intense is happening energetically is risky and it's better to wait for the experience to come down. (This feels very obvious in hindsight)
  2. Before starting again, I started to do asanas and be more active physically. Now I don't do asanas anymore and I still don't have any side effects. 

Kriya is challenging and also very rewarding. I love the moments when I get a very subtle understanding of how a practice should be done or when I get interesting sensations in my body. You don't have to master the practices 100% to feel effects. I am far away from mastering Khechari Mudra but I can definitely feel sensations in the 6th chakra when I hold my tongue in a raised position.

I definitely recommend starting the practice! Just be patient and approach it incrementally while listening to yourself and how you are feeling. :)

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Have you guys started doing Kriya Yoga by reading those books from Leo's list or did you use some other resources?

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My inhalations have got longer, but I have trouble with my exhalations. If I inhale for 15 seconds my exhale is around 10 seconds

 

Anyone else have this problem?

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On 17/11/2018 at 2:27 PM, okulele said:

Kriya Supreme Fire is a beast! Go for it guys!

Which Kriya Supreme Fire are you refering to ?

When I search I find two differents exercice that people sometimes refer at with that name, what does the one you are refering to consist of ?

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4 hours ago, Jordan94 said:

Which Kriya Supreme Fire are you refering to ?

When I search I find two differents exercice that people sometimes refer at with that name, what does the one you are refering to consist of ?

3 body locks and breath retention.


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On 12/1/2018 at 3:23 AM, herghly said:

My inhalations have got longer, but I have trouble with my exhalations. If I inhale for 15 seconds my exhale is around 10 seconds

 

Anyone else have this problem?

Yes. I am on the first kriya lesson(KP1). I have this problem with ujjayi pranayama and KP1. I think it's caused by the fact that you need oxygen, and going over 25 seconds would cause you to gasp for air. I reccomend balancing it out e.g. 12.5 second for each. Over time i've heard you will be able to go the full length.

I also experience only being able to do a few ujjayi's before gasping for air, but this morning I notice some improvement. especially from when I re-started Kriya 2 weeks ago

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@Cocolove Thanks for the suggestion. Any other advice guys?

 

Also, there are many different types of KP. 

Which do you do?

is it ok to do two different styles of KP in the same session?

Currently, i do KP 1 for 12 and KP 2 for 12. I'm thinking whether or not its better to do more of the one type of KP

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@Cocolove If you need to gasp air, do shorter breaths. You shouldn't have the need to gasp air. The breath will eventually get longer.

@herghly I wouldn't worry about it, it will balance out if it needs to. Just remember to breathe everything out when you exhale. I'm doing pranayama from SantataGamana's book and have no need to count how long my breath lasts, because due course it will be fine.

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@llumi Thanks for replying bro

 

Did you guys try many different forms of kP before you found the one you like?

Overwhelmed by how many different forms there are and if its ok to do two different types of KP in same session

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