Never_give_up

Does any man here feel like a woman in a man's body?

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Are you low testosterone?

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@Raze I checked his post the dude said himself '' 

I don't like my life anymore. I have very low IQ, I don't want to live like that anymore. My life is a series of failures. I want to go to the next life. Does such thing exist?'' 

I would say sign of low test imo.

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Do you eat healthy and exercise? Or do you eat excess sugars and sedentary life?

That is directly linked.


I am the impossible made reality.

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Kinda strange to want to be like hoes as a man. You want to be with a hoe, but actually be a hoe, or hoelike? Wouldn't be my cup of tea at all, all things considered

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The compassion, generosity and intelligence of some, knows no bounds.


Truth as process not object

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On 04/05/2026 at 8:49 AM, LastThursday said:

There's a higher chance if you're autistic that you're more gender fluid, but I forget where I read that factoid, some study or other.

I’ve Deffinately come across that before, many times. If someone’s neuroendocrine pathway development is divergent from the reproductive sex it’s certainly in line with a type of neurodivergence. 

there must be some truth to it because I’m trans and also have a DSD… and just today I started the proper assessment process for an autism and adhd diagnosis. ( age 40+, the typical collapse of masking revealing all the sensitivities).

my sexual variation had a part to play in triggering my awakening but my awakening triggered the slow collapse of my personality.

first time was an intellectual deconstruction, the second time was the exhaustion of an unfit adaptation. No more being inauthentic.

others have suggested following his authenticity and I second that. Be what you are, whatever that is and you know,  when you start to function better. … and definitely integrate both masculine and feminine aspects. For me that had nothing to do with being a man but a balanced human being. 

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On 5/3/2026 at 4:07 PM, Never_give_up said:

I don't like my role as a man. I don't want to die at wars, protect, provide. I don't want to fight other men for stupid reasons. I want to have fun. I want to be cared and yes even protected. I want to have fun like women do. Even sexually I am very submissive. I don't know what's wrong with me but I feel if I pretend that I don't want all these things I actually am not real to myself and if I try to act as a man I dysfunction.

I don't think that a man's role is inherently to die in wars, protect, or provide. That's a pretty narrow view of manhood and masculinity imo and it strips the humanity of most men to box them in that way. I don't think being sexually submissive is any less manly. And I think it's natural to face dysfunction if you find yourself performing inauthentically for long stretches of time. 

I think the way you said your role specifically is interesting. It makes me inclined to think that you may still identify as a man but not resonate with the cultural and sociatal associations with manhood as opposed to being trans. I know I'm not a man but I've had many moments throughout my mid 20s especially where I don't particularly feel like a woman but not really in a gender noncomforming/ gender fluid way but in a "there is a sociatal script that feels inauthentic to me." 

On 5/3/2026 at 4:07 PM, Never_give_up said:

I swear if I could switch my gender I would do it but with current technology we can't do that completely so there is no way I will become a trans (I am not saying trans women aren't women but that's my personal opinion). 

I mean, bottom and top surgery along with hormonal therapy are pretty effective of getting you like 90% there imo. Sure, you cannot change yourself on a chromosomal level but I think a lot of transpeople I have met  (and I don't think they are the exception) do see such medical interventions as a huge step forward to helping them feel more authentic in the way they show up in the world. You can still be trans and have yet to undergo such interventions. 

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@Adrian colby I think with autism there is a weak "theory of mind". This makes it difficult to take social cues from a person, interpret those and create a mental model of what that person is thinking and feeling, in real time. This also applies to oneself. We have a theory of mind of our own emotions and bodily sensations and build an identity from it. I suspect those with autism have a more fluid or looser identity. Identity mostly comes from copying others, and applying that to ourselves, but if that process is disrupted then building an identity becomes harder. 

Anyway, don't take my words verbatim, just my ideas nothing more.


Truth as process not object

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I remember hearing that the chance of being autistic if your trans is legit something ridiculous like 500%. Pretty much guaranteed lol.

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13 hours ago, LastThursday said:

@Adrian colby I think with autism there is a weak "theory of mind". This makes it difficult to take social cues from a person, interpret those and create a mental model of what that person is thinking and feeling, in real time. This also applies to oneself. We have a theory of mind of our own emotions and bodily sensations and build an identity from it. I suspect those with autism have a more fluid or looser identity. Identity mostly comes from copying others, and applying that to ourselves, but if that process is disrupted then building an identity becomes harder. 

Anyway, don't take my words verbatim, just my ideas nothing more.

I always take these ideas as contemplation fodder so I’m thankful for the answer. 

there’s probably some truth in what you’re pointing toward regarding identity formation like social mirroring and autistic differences in social processing. But I’d be careful about reducing autism to simply ‘weak theory of mind’ because modern understanding is moving away from that idea as a blanket explanation.

Many autistic individuals can understand others deeply…sometimes excessively deeply through analysis but may struggle with rapid implicit social interpretation in real time. That’s different from lacking empathy or lacking a theory of minds altogether. I’d also be cautious with the idea that identity mainly comes from copying others. Social mirroring certainly contributes, but identity appears to emerge from many layers like biology, temperament, nervous system structure, endocrine influences, embodiment, attachment, memory, social interaction, and self-reflection.

Ironically, many autistic people report not a weak identity, but an unusually persistent internal sense of self combined with exhaustion from masking and performing social expectations that feel unnatural. That has certainly been part of my own experience and the phase of exhaustion I’m currently at. Where I think discussions like this become dangerous is when a leap is made from ‘autistic people process identity differently’ to ‘therefore trans identity is simply confusion or imitation.’ That doesn’t logically follow.Autistic individuals are often less socially conformist, more introspective, and more likely to question imposed roles rather than automatically absorb them. So the same observations could support the opposite interpretation: that some autistic people are less capable of suppressing internal incongruence for the sake of social harmony.

In my own case, having a DSD complicates things further because we’re not talking about a purely social or conceptual phenomenon. There are biological developmental variables involved from the outset. I think these ideas are worth contemplating carefully, but I’d avoid collapsing a very complex interaction of biology, neurology, embodiment, and social development into a single explanatory mechanism.

A lot of the problem I find is A lack of understandable communication between divergent ways of processing and one trying to pathologies the other. 
 

my wife is very good at interacting with me. She does a lot of animal behaviour work so is clued into highly sensitive nervous systems ( she communicates with that, not my intellect) Humans are constantly faster, bigger, louder, overstimulating, desensitised, short attention etc so when someone like myself goes into an environment where there’s so much change, it interruptes the hyper focus I have my baseline in, it becomes very overwhelming very quickly. I tend to remove myself and enjoy the quiet and subtle nuances of natural environments instead.

I'm going to stop yhere cause I realise I’m diverging away from topic. 

 

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@Never_give_up look into MBTI . you maybe an NF in MBTI. NF men in MBTI have womanly traits. they are like  a woman trapped in a mans body

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On 5/4/2026 at 1:07 AM, Never_give_up said:

I want to have fun. I want to be cared and yes even protected. Even sexually I am very submissive.

Even though I have learned masculine traits along the way, I feel that as well, but in my own way, especially when I see my type of a masculine woman. But I don't care about social connections that much; I'm at peace when I'm alone.

Edited by Nemra

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On 04/05/2026 at 9:07 AM, Never_give_up said:

I am ashamed of writing this but I hope this community won't judge me.

I don't like my role as a man. I don't want to die at wars, protect, provide. I don't want to fight other men for stupid reasons. I want to have fun. I want to be cared and yes even protected. I want to have fun like women do. Even sexually I am very submissive. I don't know what's wrong with me but I feel if I pretend that I don't want all these things I actually am not real to myself and if I try to act as a man I dysfunction.

I am straight and have some masculine traits but not many. I am more of a woman than a man. 

I swear if I could switch my gender I would do it but with current technology we can't do that completely so there is no way I will become a trans (I am not saying trans women aren't women but that's my personal opinion). 

How do I live in this harsh world that doesn't understand men like me. Most people try to shame me for not being a manly man and the rest don't care. I mean it's good they don't care , it's their choice, but what do I do?

Does any other man feel like me or I am an exception? I have never heard of any other man say stuff like this even online, so I don't know how this will be percieved, I am kinda anxious posting this. I am even ashamed to talk like this to my psychologist, but I will probably take the step and do it. 

 

I relate very much with this. Was a cool read thanks.


 

 

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Man! I feel like a Woo-Wooman xD 

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“…for indeede it ought to be written wooman, not woman, for that she dooth woo man with her vertues“ -Nicholas Breton

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I think we all struggle with, I wish I was different. The core feeling is, I am not enough, isn't it? 

Seems like we need to change ourselves to get love. 

It's tough. Tough thing to come to terms with.

To find 'our people' , the tribe we belong too, who get us, who we feel we get. 

It seems like a persistent theme in all peoples lives. 

Feel yah brother

 

Edited by Jordan of the Shire

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@Never_give_up I would strategically search for stage green places in a first world country if you dont already live there, you will get accepted with open arms!

For me I never really fit into the masculine men stereotype, I had phased where I lived up to it and even enjoyed it, but it was never a natural pull from me. I was always pretty soft, sensible and unagressive. People called me I am like a girl or gay because of it. 

I thought about it in my end teens, a different body would allow me a more colourful, emotionally intelligent phenemonological experience. There was a bit of longing for sure. But deep down I never really felt at unease with the body I was given. In the end I could do what I wanted to do with it. I could make it into something beautiful. And I never despised masculinity completly. 95% of it is ego-pushing trash but there is a deep beauty and need in its healhty form. The grounded, truthful, ego-less, brave if need be form. 

In my mid twenties in a theatre club I was given some pretty feminine make up for a play and I was entranced by the view in a way I never could have imagined. I was playing a bit with my lips flirting with the mirror and managed to produce quite a feminine charm. That was quite something. I was quite interested to explore that site of me further but it never got to it. 

Recently I got kind of sobered up by women. I experienced a lot of feminine specific toxic behaviour like social control and exclusion. The people who patched me up were mature white cis dude in their thirties lol. I was always team girls in my life but I kind of changed teams to the hand that feeds me. 

Not sure what will happen going forward, but atm I am kind of stabilized in my masculinity. 

Edited by Jannes

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@Never_give_up Don't be ashamed of who you are. People will always judge you, no matter what you do. You could bend over backwards trying to be the manliest man in the world, and people would still find something to criticize. So don't let other people's judgments define you. You are already worthy and valuable exactly as you are.

There is nothing wrong with being submissive. I am submissive too, although I can also take on the dominant role when I feel like it. 😁 It's perfectly okay to feel the way you do.

Personally, I don't see this as a man-versus-woman issue. I see it more as a matter of masculinity and femininity. A man can have more feminine traits, just as a woman can have more masculine traits. Think of femboys and tomboys, for example.

I am a man, but I have a lot of femininity in me as well as masculinity. Personally, I am trying to embrace and unite both sides of myself. I believe that's how we can become more whole as individuals. I actually see myself as a bear. To me, the bear is a beautiful symbol of the union of masculinity and femininity. 😁

As for how to live in this harsh world, I think you need to develop a thick skin and learn to endure other people's judgments. You are stronger than you might think. Just remember that a lot of people act out of ignorance. They don't necessarily understand what they're saying or doing. Let the ignorant people rave and get their panties in a twist if they want to. Their opinions don't have to affect you. Most importantly, don't let other people decide what is best for you. Only you can know the answer to that.

And if you ever need someone to listen, I'm always open to that. I'm here for you if you need me. 👍

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On 5/3/2026 at 5:07 PM, Never_give_up said:

I am ashamed of writing this but I hope this community won't judge me.

I don't like my role as a man. I don't want to die at wars, protect, provide. I don't want to fight other men for stupid reasons. I want to have fun. I want to be cared and yes even protected. I want to have fun like women do. Even sexually I am very submissive. I don't know what's wrong with me but I feel if I pretend that I don't want all these things I actually am not real to myself and if I try to act as a man I dysfunction.

I am straight and have some masculine traits but not many. I am more of a woman than a man. 

I swear if I could switch my gender I would do it but with current technology we can't do that completely so there is no way I will become a trans (I am not saying trans women aren't women but that's my personal opinion). 

How do I live in this harsh world that doesn't understand men like me. Most people try to shame me for not being a manly man and the rest don't care. I mean it's good they don't care , it's their choice, but what do I do?

Does any other man feel like me or I am an exception? I have never heard of any other man say stuff like this even online, so I don't know how this will be percieved, I am kinda anxious posting this. I am even ashamed to talk like this to my psychologist, but I will probably take the step and do it. 

 

Maybe you're a femboy or a full on trans woman or just more feminine man than average. I think that's great, Femboys are very attractive to a lot of people, myself included.

Fun fact if you go on Reddit and look at all the porn subreddits, the Femboys one is one of the ones with the highest weekly viewers. It's a pretty popular identity that mainstream society shames.

If I were you I'd go on Reddit and explore the communities along those terms that are text based and explore these questions and you will probably be able to find stories that let you make peace with your identity.

There are millions of other men that feel like you do, you probably won't find a lot of them talking openly about it in more restrictive countries or even in most circles in the progressive ones. If you know where to look online and there a lot of them talking about it though! 

https://www.reddit.com/r/feminineboys/

For me, no I cannot relate. I would be curious to live as a woman for like 1 day to see what it's like but then I'd want back to my male identity. I love and thrive under brutal competition with other males and the quest to building power and leverage with the goal of building my dream life and bringing more feminine individuals into my life feels very natural to me. I'm very much so a provider male.

I've recently come to terms with my bisexual identity and it's been a lot of fun exploring it! Society is very behind in terms of our awareness of identities that aren't mainstream but we've made a lot of progress over the past 20 years. In another 20 years I think all kinds of alternative identities will become mainstream and accepted by most people. 

There's also the Peter Pan Syndrome to keep in mind where perhaps part of what you're feeling comes from the jarring reality of having to become an adult and provide for yourself whether you're a man or woman. Perhaps part of your goal in striving for femininity is avoidance of responsibility which to a point we all feel and I can definitely relate to. I would say they are separate but potentially overlapping issues though but don't fundamentally have to do with your gender identity. 

Edited by LordFall

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