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Seeking some insight or perspective: I have an unresolved tension with the intention to deliberately guide and direct an audience towards a product. Not that it is wrong to do that, but that it means to some extent I have to underhandedly have an ulterior motive to everything I share. Since to sell a product well, you need to build rapport, understand the needs of the consumer, then provide the solution. There is conflict of interest in relationship. So wondering what logic people have around marketing and sales? I'm sourcing a way to derive an entrepreneurial living without becoming a meme. I function as an instructor and coach, without paying clients for the moment I also have a Software application I'm working on which will be part of that. (This effort is in its grassroots) I also have a construction business. What d'yall think? Feel free to share videos, examples from discussions you've had in the past, different spiral stage perspectives, or whatever comes to mind.

I feel like we'd all be cooler and just know how to treat eachother if we didn't react to our thoughts like hippos chasing rabbits. I think people are all over the place with philosophy and politics because theyre confused. The answer is that conservative and liberal are right at different times. What you say today may be wrong tomorrow. What is right, right now, may be incorrect later. Being caught on views misses the picture. We're all arguing when the problem is very much rooted in not being still, being traumatized, and having an opinion about everything. Nuance in dealing with people. That's why there are books like the however many laws of power, or never split the difference, because of how wild the court of people are when everyone is dealing with some form of delusion, we have to be skillful in how we communicate. Lest there be consequences or outcomes we dont really want. So tricky too when we actually have to build things, someone has to be a leader in any given undertaking, and there are complex things being done. But the power of being still, having genuine release, and cultivating awareness I think solves a lot of clarity issues. It can be helpful to step away from trying to affect change in the world for awhile while things in the mind settle, and the light of awareness is more clear.

Still learning what spirituality really is. It's common that I learn what it is not, and it is usually associated with what my assumptions are about anything. So technically I am less wrong, but always wrong in some way. I think that the opposite of spiritual is the creation of a self of which to occupy a space and then empowering that. It could be good or edgy or whatever. It's sort of self-conformist tendency which is natural. And to put it that way, you could even say, that the opposite of spiritual could be composed of moments, states of mind and being, and stages we get trapped in rather than a ultimatum. What I seem to react to is the use of psychic mediumship, fancy imagination techniques, self-identified enlightenment, hedonism, kundalini-like assumptive work, and flowery language, associated with radical assumptions that create groupthink and then convey a truth but it becomes a parroting rather than experience. What i seem to react to is the presentation of the promise which is basic marketing, in the form of spirituality, which becomes the means to satisfy financial means, status, pleasure, intellectual satisfaction. These are orange tendencies guised in the form of the saint, magician, and lover. It's shadowed by the desire to obtain, to be seen, and to hold power. This is difficult to avoid for anyone. I have to see it, know it, and let it go when it arises. To say I'm free of that is nonsense. But i think there is a spectrum of self awareness. "Is the thing revealing insight into the nature of reality" This is a liberating metric. Removes the judgement from what you're doing, even if it is flawed, or fake. As long as the process is revealing something to you about deception and truth. People know their skill but without relevant comparison or humility of their skill they can easily be overwhelmed by their own assumptions and then they wont progress further than their new found excitement. In my own training, when "special stuff" happens, the common response is "don't worry about it" "let it go" "keep going" "Yes we have many of these things" "humility is essential" "as your skill grows, so too should your humility" Yadda yadda, humility seems to be important. But in the marketplace, it is elevation of the self in order to attract a market, that gets you somewhere.

I like Jensen Huang's statement. He said, if he knew how hard it would be to grow Nvidea, he wouldn't have done it. So starting with naive optimism is important. Asking "how hard could it be?" then try things. Just do it and see what works and what doesnt. This is the process. Whatever business you're in is really dependent on vision, values, networking and solving a real problem well. Building goodwill by being of service, being a reliable friend, being optimistic and courageous even when people are like, fack off you gotta get a real job. haha. and continuing to push through the hard times. It's kind of like an energy ball. The more focus and attention you put to a thing, the more it grows. Focus on first principals. What are the essential key components, make the requirements less dumb, create a prototype, pitch it to people, gather support, build feedback, iterate. Over and over. One technique I like is, if you have a service, schedule your first workshop or class or release on the calendar and then hold yourself to that date. Then invite people to that date personally. Then do it. As you approach that date, all the mental garbage comes up on why you should cancel or not do it. Just relax. Do it. I personally look at money as a bi-product of doing something well. It is the effect of different causes going well, rather than the goal. Instead of "may I have x amount of money", focus on the causes - "may I develop the skills, values, mindsets, and relationships that causes money to flow" The pressure of attaining a dollar value is backwards.

hell yea hahaha This is great advice.

Anyone can tell you the truth but to experience it you have to practice. To practice, you must renounce your conceptual views and practice. The process of developing spiritual has more to do with attention and qi and embodiment. Writing many paragraphs of theoretical views is an example of going from 0 (experience) to 10 (elaboration and division) I like the quote "I don't think before I speak, I song before I think" Song is the chinese word for an infinite scale of release. Song is the path.

Many ways to enlighten and many layers to it. There is the stream enterer, one who has only a few character defilements left, and then a few more levels of enlightenment after that, and then once you achieve the highest level, there are more levels. So it's like this. A good measure of someones development is their level of equanimity during changing circumstances.

B-e-a-u-ti-ful - yea life is starting to feel so beautiful like this and the same feeling of like - ho damn, this moments so beautiful... and there's more? deeper and deeper. gratitude, and mystery!

Awesome! This is a big deal. Quite a journey. Nice! Heck yea Amazing! That's incredible man - all the things that get in the way, when those drop off it feels like having a weight lifted forsure. Heck yea When I look around its nice to see when people are making progress. There's a lot of beauty in this world. So many people are doing great things. It's good to recognize it from time to time when the negative seems to catch the attention far more.

Enjoying each day and feel grateful. To throw my hat in the discussion. It's okay to feel pride, but the follow up to that is to recognize that its not self, letting the self feel pride is okay, well-being is okay. Then see the separation between awareness and self. This is actually really important for spiritual development. Filling the self with positive feelings, then recognizing that the awareness is not those feelings. But the awareness knows good feelings. Thats better than knowing shitty feelings right? So it's okay. Anyways Yeaaaaa Pride.. I'm proud of my boys frodo sam aragorn gandalf legolas boromir gimli and smeagol Proud of han solo and leia and luke skywalker Proud of the dudes who got through basically psychotic breakdowns and overcame I'm proud of my family and what they take care of and their efforts.

Hello there fellow Oso If you're interested in a safe method of practice, there's a method called Dissolve and it's taught by Andy Mack. If you're interested, see if that research gives you something safe and gentle to work with. It's what I've been focusing on and it's really helped. It's hard to find the alignment. I understand. Takes time. Take your time, have faith, believe in yourself, do your best, it's okay to fail. Consider what you value, put it down on paper, attach behaviors to those values, and then see where that could fit into a job. Then enjoy the process. Volunteering at a foodbank could build meaningful connections, or a book store, for calm yet meaningful conversation. A hobby craft store, or boardgame shop. Joining a yoga studio, or finding a hiking group. Social connection could come from your job or something you do recreationally.

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I've heard that many people mis-attribute kundalini awakening for electrical energy moving up the spine. It's a very rare phenomena which has become a buzz word. Most of what people experience is Zifa Gong. When energy moves through the body and meets resistance it causes spontaneous movements. These movements are interpreted in a lot of ways, but it is just energy pushing through blocked channels. It is advisable to spend many years developing the body to be able to act as a capacitor for divine energy, otherwise one can burn up and take on great illness.

If you're having spontaneous movements and they're not stopping see if you can have someone cup their hand and slap your Yao, all the fascial webbing that is on the lower region of the back. This can help disrupt spontaneous movements while in public or when not needed.

Do what you can, observe the way things happen. Enjoy the process. Learn a little, do a little.