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This is a quick rough symbol I made. I am more visual learner. But this is what I see how it is. One Unity but many talking heads. And both are real.

@Razard86 I think we may be closer than it seems. I don't see individuality as absolute separation. I see it as distinction within unity. I agree that the human psyche does not own Consciousness. My concern is when people unconsciously identify the individual psyche with absolute Consciousness. I would rather say that we all exist within the same Consciousness than that everyone exists within me. To me, the word "me" can easily be misunderstood as referring to the individual self. My view is similar to a seed and a tree. The seed is never separate from the tree, yet it is still meaningful to call it a seed. Making a distinction is not the same as creating separation. I see reality as both unity and diversity at the same time. Unity is the ground of reality, while individuality is how that unity expresses itself. They are not opposites to me they are two perspectives on the same reality. 😁 I have had direct experience on this.

Holon is more close what i mean 😁

@HojoI think we're using the word "exist" in two different senses. I'm not saying that the seed is ultimately separate from the tree. I agree that, in the deepest sense, they are one. What I'm saying is that the seed is still a real expression of the tree. Calling it a seed doesn't create separation it simply describes a particular form that the tree has taken. In the same way, I don't believe we are separate from the Great One. But I also don't think our individuality is meaningless or unreal. It is a temporary expression of the One, not something independent from it. So from my perspective, unity and individuality are not opposites. Individuality exists within unity, not outside of it. A contradiction doesn't necessarily mean something is false. It may simply mean that reality cannot be fully captured by ordinary logic or language.😉

@Hojo@Hojo The Great One is the Tree, and we are its seeds. Everything is ultimately one, but that doesn't mean the seeds don't exist. They do exist. I also wouldn't say that other people are "within me." Rather, we all exist within Consciousness. It isn't my consciousness, and it isn't your consciousness. It is shared Consciousness—the root of our existence. I also think it's incorrect to say that the psyche doesn't exist. In many traditions, it is said not to exist in an ultimate sense because it is impermanent. But impermanence doesn't mean something isn't real. It is still real as a temporary phenomenon. We are all expressions of the Great One Spirit. That's how I see it. It's not that I imagine everything. Consciousness is what gives rise to experience, but it isn't my consciousness. I am only a small part of it, just as you are. From my perspective, your view seems to treat your own psyche as the totality of reality, and I personally think that's an unhealthy and mistaken conclusion.

This also blew my mind! These Psychedelics are nothing compared to the secrets of the real path.

And people here also talk a lot about psychedelics. One thing you need to understand about psychedelics is that, yes, they can open your mind. But the real question is this: How do you know that the insights you receive during those experiences are being interpreted correctly? I don't think we can know that by ourselves. It's a bit like waking up from a dream. The more awake you become, the more the memory fades and blends with your own interpretations and assumptions. This is why I don't believe taking psychedelics alone is enough. I believe we need the guidance of an enlightened teacher someone who sees more clearly than we do. Those of us who are still seeking should remain humble and recognize that we do not yet see everything clearly. This is why true masters have always been important. This is why I believe we need a living tradition not just random online "masters." In my opinion, if someone is serious about this path, they should be willing to leave their comfort zone and seek out genuine teachers. They are not easy to find. Until you find such a teacher, I believe the best thing you can do is shadow work. Confront your own inner darkness. Cultivate humility, compassion, courage, and wisdom. Become a light in the world. Be the person who is willing to go out of their way to help others and care for our shared humanity. Direct experience may be the king... But peer review or the guidance of a true master is the queen. Without both, there is no kingdom.

@Zeroguy I 100% agree with you. I've seen so much spiritual egoism on this forum. So many people just listen to Leo and parrot his words. In my opinion, it's pride that makes people feel they have special knowledge that others don't. I believe that is a spiritual sickness. People who claim they are God remind me of my own imaginary characters declaring that they created the world and that no one else exists. To me, that is incredibly arrogant.

@DeadpixelI'm really sorry you're going through this. It sounds like you're carrying a lot of fear and confusion right now. I don't know the full truth, and I don't claim to have all the answers. But I'd like to share how I personally see it. I think many people accidentally mix up consciousness with the psyche. Consciousness is what I would call our higher identity the awareness that is universal and shared. The psyche is our individual identity your unique mind, personality, memories, and experiences. I don't believe the psyche is an illusion. I believe both are real. From my perspective, there is one consciousness, but many psyches. We are not separate from the whole, yet neither are we identical to one another. That's why I don't believe your family, your friends, or the people you love are "just fantasies." I see them as real individuals who share the same fundamental consciousness. If these ideas are causing you deep distress or making it difficult to trust your own experience, I genuinely think it would be a good idea to speak with a licensed therapist or another trusted mental health professional. Seeking help isn't a sign of failure it simply means you're taking care of yourself. Whatever the ultimate nature of reality is, I believe compassion remains essential. I sincerely hope you find peace and clarity.

Many say that the "self" doesn't exist, but I don't see it that way. I believe the psyche does exist. The problem, in my view, is that many people identify only with the psyche and think that is all they are. I don't think that's the whole picture. We are more than the psyche, but I also don't believe the self is an illusion. The psyche is intimately part of the whole. It doesn't simply disappear. Rather, I believe it can become united with the Great One. When I hear ideas such as: "I am God. No one else exists but me. Everything else is an illusion. There is nothing behind the scenes." ...that doesn't resonate with me personally. My own understanding is different. I don't believe I am God, nor do I believe I ever will be. I see myself as a servant of the Great One. Compared to the Great One, I am only a tiny speck of dust. And yet, I also believe we are one. So, from my perspective: "I am God" doesn't seem true. "I am only the self" also doesn't seem complete. What makes the most sense to me is that I am both the self and consciousness an individual expression that is inseparable from the greater whole. This is simply how I understand it at this point in my life. I also try to remind myself that I still have much to learn. There is far more that I don't know than what I do know. To me, compassion is the greatest virtue. I don't see truth and compassion as separate. They are like two sides of the same coin. Without truth, compassion loses its foundation. Without compassion, truth can become cold and harmful. I know Leo often says that truth is the highest value. I understand why he sees it that way, but I personally see it a little differently. To me, the highest value is truth and compassion together. At least, that's where I currently stand. I'm always open to learning and having my understanding deepen.

@JoshB Me calling solipsism spiritual narcissism doesn't make me a spiritual narcissist. 😂 WTF? I'd say it's better to give up this petty argument and focus on purifying your own darkness and miasma. Let me ask you this: if a cell in your body believes that it is you, is that true or false? To me, a cell is not the whole. It is only a part of the whole—just as you are part of the whole. But we all share one consciousness. That's all. We have separate minds, but one consciousness. I would advise you to practice humility. I know I still have a long way to go myself. I also struggle with pride and other impurities, so I'm not saying I'm better than you in any way. I would also advise you to talk to a real therapist if you're struggling with these things. Therapy can genuinely help.

Solipsism = Spiritual Narcissism Ta-daa!

I don't really agree with solipsism. To me, it isn't that only my consciousness exists. I think there is one fundamental consciousness that expresses itself through many different minds and psyches. Our personalities, memories, and psychological structures are different, but the underlying awareness is shared. When I look into someone's eyes, I don't feel like I'm looking at an empty object or a figment of my imagination. I experience the presence of another conscious being. I can't prove that philosophically, but it's a real experience for me. So while I agree that we can never step outside our own perspective and see reality from some completely objective "behind the scenes" viewpoint, I don't think that means other consciousnesses don't exist. To me, it means our access to reality is always through experience not that everyone else is imaginary!

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There is no one else and yet there are many souls. At the same time. Solipism is not wholey true. It's än half truth. The other side of the Truth is that we do live in material world. We are all individuals. The world goes on without your consiousness existing here. Trees do fall in forest when no one is looking. Because they are all part of the same thing. I see people here making the same mistake. They try to THINK about this. No no no no! You must FEEL it and not THINK. Any thought is just a thought. You may think you know it is a dream. It is not a dream at all but it feels like a dream. There is a difference. The cold fact is that there is only one thing in the existance and yet at the same time there are individual souls. This is how the Great One has shown to me. People think of this like it's a video game. Ney! Far from it. It is as we see it. It is real. The pain is real, the suffering is real, the world and the people are real and yet there is no one else but the Great One. Just like a canvas. On the canvas there are many Characters but they are all on the same frame. That is how it is. Not that there is only black canvas. Nor that there are many canvas of each Characters. People here completely forget that. And I can say with wholeheartedly that non of us in this forum are Awskened. (Myself included) neither is Leo. Its all just words and stories you tell yourself. The best thing we can do is to be at service to others. Focus on overcoming your own darkness and not this Solipism bullshit.