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Basman replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Drumming up controversy is a marketing strat of Kanye. He always does something crazy to drum up attention right before an album drop, like announcing he's running for president or interrupting that award ceremony. He's also just a contrarian, plus he's mentally ill (bipolar). -
Basman started following Should I join the military?
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In Scandinavia we have something called "first time service" (førstegangstjeneste) which is a limited contract of about a year. Basic training + a couple of months of duty. It's a good way to get some experience. I think an equivalent of that sounds like it would suit your situation more as you don't sound like you are specifically interested in a military career long-term. Once the year is over you could apply for a career in the military or move on.
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I don't think it's likely that we'll ever get a fully vegan society since there will still be people running their own farms, fishing, hunting, or are into price beef, etc. Certain meats have culture attached to them. That said, fake meat slop is the final form of Mcnuggets and soggy burgers. Doesn't even need to have the texture or necessarily the taste of real meat. Just deep fried paste with extra sugar and salt. Probably won't happen in our lifetime though.
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It's true that vegans tend to be largely urban (and middle/upper class) and that the cushiness of modern life makes it so you can get away with living in fantasy, but that is more on an individual basis and doesn't necessarily say anything about the merits of the ideology itself. Being vegan is both possible and healthy (due to modern imports), though generally harder and less convenient. It's a matter of values whether or not to be vegan. You don't have to be crazy to want to be vegan.
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Your arguments is that they hate themselves. That is frankly ridiculous 😂. You don't have to hate yourself to care about animals. Vegans just tend to be a bit out of touch with reality at times.
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Meat-eaters VS vegans is structurally the same as Atheists VS Christians.
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I don't like how you assume my intentions. I haven't actually said anything about the merits of veganism or meat-eating. I just have a different understanding of what survival is. If anything, it's dishonest to assume intent over focusing on the quality of arguments. That is a prime example of survival actually. I guarantee that the average serial rapists has all sorts of rationalizations about how women deserve it, etc. Ethics and survival are two different and often opposing things. Ethics are limitations to one's selfishness. But ethics are also survival to a certain extent, as they are culturally informed and socially regulated. For example, sex slavery is abhorrent in western countries but completely normal and expected in Mauritania. People would look at you weird if you didn't keep slaves, like how big businesses are expected to screw over customers and steal wages and would get sued by their investors if they didn't. Ethics seem to have certain universality for humans at least, but I'm not completely sure and if to what extent. Also, "validity is an inherently lingual notion. Tigers don't give a shit about "validity". In the context of survival "validity" is just an opinion.
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But you do. Food is the one consistent highlight in a lot of people's day. The fact that people will fight and debate you over giving up their burgers is proof of that. It's an explanation, not a justification. Trying to convert a meat-eater into veganism is structurally the same as trying to convert a secular person into Christianity. It'll only work if they are already open to the idea. Morality is not a universal feature but a relative mental construct. Human morality, including veganism, is largely an extension of behavior that would maintain social cohesion, like not being murderous. Tigers don't flinch or question when they kill because they don't have an identity that subsumes certain principles as right or wrong nor do they have the need to. That is not bug but a feature of their design.
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Basman replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Actually has a nice cadence to it and I like how the chorus sounds and how the song progresses, but the lyrics are unacceptable cringe. Kind of edgy shit that would be cool in the early 2010s. -
Basman started following Kanye West released a song titled, 'Heil Hitler'
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Basman replied to Schizophonia's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Survival is the survival of one's own identity, which is why vegans tend to get in so many debates. They are surviving their vegan identity, likewise people can feel like their worldview and lifestyle is being undermined by vegan ideology because it is uncompromising due to its moral dimension. Comparatively, you don't see people debating paleo bros. There is no "paleo identity". It lacks that moral dimension that makes it more actual, beyond just being nutrition bros.
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Eating for flavor and texture is survival. Eating bland food purely for nutrition or being vegan is less naturalistic than just eating tasty burgers unquestioningly. It is just in modern times that following one's instincts can be unhealthy. Medieval peasants would be healthier if they ate Big macs.
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Currently it would be closer to anarchy because there is no central power that monopolizes violence and adjudicates law, although non-ideologically. People are just surviving in a state without a functioning government. Haitian collapse can be tied to a certain degree to corruption and bad economic policy. I don't think that counts as libertarianism necessarily.
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Good explanation of why Haiti is in the mess it is in.
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They have a literal combat zone where the police will shoot anyone on sight, where they regularly get into gunfights with gang members.