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Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

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Clear video of the sniper here. This is definitely him:

 


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From that distance, pn the right spot to kill. This is a professional Hitman who have probably killed more.

Looks like we got another Kennedy on our hands.

How can this happen in America? Even when Trump has his speech, we saw a wierdo on the roof. Is it so easy to kill presidents. I refuse to believe Americans has such poor security for their politicians. Especially when guns are easy to get like buying bubblegum.

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24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Do you know how risky it would be for a Mossad agent to do this operation? How risky it would be of Israel. You don't kill a guy like that. He is an ally.

Quite naive, considering we are talking Israel here, which is in fact worse than the Nazis so anything goes. Also when they have gaslit the Us into supporting their wars, an assassination of just one guy to get the emotions up and running and distract from Epstein/gaza sounds very doable. If 9/11 or Kennedy assassination wasn't too risky (in order to get US support in their wars) why do you find it impossible for them to murder "one of their own". you can expect anything from a country that shoots kids trying to get food in the head. if you think about it from Israel pov they got trump in their pocket to do whatever they want only thing they missing is the group of right wingers that oppose genocide, so this is a perfect false flag to unite the right against the common enemy the woke/left/dei.

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11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Clear video of the sniper here. This is definitely him:

 

This is it. It's quite a sophisticated attack, and showcases a well-trained sniper, and a thought-out attack-escape plan. 

Trump has already blamed the radical left, as he calls it. Well, you can point to the left in general as the primary ideological opposition of Kirk, but the attack itself points more to the right, which is usually more in line and favor of this kind of weapons. So it's not clear for me, and I don't think they'll catch the shooter, as they probably planned the escape well, but we'll see. It's good there's footage of the sniper that fast, at least we know how it happened. 

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I just hope the truth cones to light whatever it is

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

and now release the Epstein list boiiii

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@Socrates

The political cost is super high for them to do it, but their desperation is also higher today. Couldn’t imagine them trying this 10 years, even 2 years ago - but the shift in narrative not only globally but in the US who they materially rely on changes the calculus.

Them being capable also doesn’t mean them being willing - but then capability also means being capable of doing such things and getting away with it - as they have been getting away with all they have recently. So surely they can be more brazen about what their willing to do also.

They just struck a gulf capital who the US is an ally of and has the largest base. That totally fucks up the US’s image of being a reliable security partner and ally. It goes completely against their interest to be setting up mediation talks then having those mediators be bombed - in a location such as Doha on top of that.

The fact that Israel can’t afford to lose MAGA cuts both ways - they can’t afford for MAGA to start questioning Israel, as much as they can’t afford to lose MAGA as a response to them taking out one of their biggest influencers.

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Ive seen some many large accounts on twitter try to spin the Israel involvement angle, jeez those people are relentless 

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8 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

He isn't so innocent. It's like those 20 year old Israeli girls who got kidnapped. Your initial reaction is to feel really bad as if an injustice has been done. But really these young dancing women who just want to live their lives and have fun are actually ruthless IDF military baby killers with no regard for life or emotion 

Anyone attached to Israel has deep rooted problems that you can't even believe and the implications are far reaching. They could be pedophiles, mass murderers, thieves, propagandists, or all of the above. You just don't know 

Nobody is innocent. We live in a society in which there is a subgroup of individuals which is treated as objects, raped, murdered and enslaved by the billions. Even the most progressive individuals not only support but participate directly in that objectification through consuming the tortured corpses of those individuals. Basically nobody is protesting it, everyone is making excuses for it while only giving importance to moral issues that relate to their own ingroup (humans).

You should be very careful with your condemnations. There are individuals who, rightfully, view you and every one of your progressive friends as genocidal supremacist barbarians who justify, participate, downplay and do nothing about  the greatest moral atrocity in the history of the planet.

To the animals, all of you are nazis, genocidal murderers, propagandists, pedophiles (animals are child like beings who are sexually exploited by the billions every year) slave-owners, cannibalists.

If you are going to play the moral crusade olympics, I can guarantee that you will not find yourself on top of it. If violence against the likes of Kirk is justified, it is justified against you and 99% of progressives, even those who pay lip service to this issue, and especially those that talk all day about human genocides while turning a blind eye to the the animal holocaust.

 

Ignorance and selfishness exists in all of us, to a far greater degree than you can imagine. Your ignorance of that fact renders you no different from the likes of Kirk. A sense of false moral superiority fueled by irrational moral outrage rather than an effort to improve the world and bring light where darkness has previously been. You are morally depraved, it's part of the human condition. The more you deny it and frame yourself as superior to others, the more evil you are.

 

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@Leo Gura Also consider, chalie was beginning to be labeled as anti semitic due to what he was questioning. This is why I say, both and left and right should simmer it. You're both targets for forces that what to destabilize the west and they want us at each others necks as this supports them and their aims.

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So, two things can be simultaneously true:

1) Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit who has a large degree of culpability for the climate of political violence we're living through today.

2) Nothing good will come of his death. Innocent people are going to die if and when this escalates.

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Trust me, we do NOT want to go down a path where we resolve our political differences with bullets. The last thing we need right now is a 2025 version of Bleeding Kansas.

Defeat the fascists at the ballot box, over the airwaves, by putting our bodies in the streets, and through mass, strategic noncompliance with the regime.

Vigilante political violence is counter productive to the kinds of outcomes we (that is, those of us who want to live in a democracy) actually want. Assassinations aren't something to be celebrated.

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35 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Owen Cook response:

 

"Schools are the pit of Satan".

That's all you need to know about his response.


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I wonder what your guys opinion on the role social media companies have with this event. 

I don't use instagram or Facebook, but a lot of my friends tell me that they've seen the footage of the shooting immediately after opening the app. They told me that unlike before, there is no warning or even attempt at censorship. 

In general I was aware that gore videos are more frequent on instagram reels, but seems like everyone saw it. 

Does the fact that more people are exposed to the video affect politics?

Do social media apps do this deliberately or was this simply because everyone was reposting the video?

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You guys are obviously masking HARD

You can't run around for 6 months like a chicken with it's head cut off screaming about fascist genocidal monsters to young impressionable kids, and then say you're sad about Kirk being killed, lmao.

I see no mention on here of people being "happy" about this, yet you guys are trying to reframe this indifference to Kirk as being happy for this, textbook masking, grasping at straws trying to say this is bad for democracy, rofl, after for 6 months you've been saying democracy is over and doesn't exist!

The backpeddaling and virtue signaling from people whose words foment this, disgusting.

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3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You guys are obviously masking HARD

You can't run around for 6 months like a chicken with it's head cut off screaming about fascist genocidal monsters to young impressionable kids, and then say you're sad about Kirk being killed, lmao.

I see no mention on here of people being "happy" about this, yet you guys are trying to reframe this indifference to Kirk as being happy for this, textbook masking.

The backpeddaling and virtue signaling from people whose words foment this, disgusting.

100% agree.

I'm not "happy" it happened but if you talk the utter vile shit constantly that Kirk talks, it is really just not a surprise someone takes you out, the same way I wouldn't act completely unbelievably shocked and appalled if an F1 Driver died on the race track it would just be like "well that kinda comes with the career". 

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People need to really understand that there is, simply, no universal law like gravity that says "people can talk whatever shit they want and absolutely nothing will happen to them". 

 

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What "vile" things do you speak of? Valuing objective reality is not "vile." No, I'm not talking about his Christian beliefs or pro-life stance, which were innocent enough anyways.

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