Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Twentyfirst]

6 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

How immature and pathetic is it to be okay with someone being shot and killed just because they had beliefs you disagreed with?

Everyone has the right to think for themselves, and everyone should be encouraged to share their honest beliefs and opinions without having their life threatened or taken away for it. If you want others to believe in what you believe, you need to communicate with those who disagree with you, not celebrate the death of an influencer who shared beliefs you disagree with.

He didn't just have beliefs. He was a mouthpiece for a military killing machine that's responsible for carnage for millions of people. His "beliefs" were supporting his pedophile friends in the mass starvation of millions of innocent lives using debate tactics and sly deflection

If he had to choose between YOU and his stupid ass "beliefs". Trust me, he would let you die horribly and instantly 

[Elliott]

47 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

What "vile" things do you speak of? Valuing objective reality is not "vile." No, I'm not talking about his Christian beliefs or pro-life stance, which were innocent enough anyways.

 

 

 

 

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, carterfelder said:

I think not being able to condemn Hamas is just as disgusting, but I'm not going to celebrate or express no remorse for someone who died and never caused physical harm to anyone else, and who had a family and loved ones.

Nobody brought up Hamas until you did just now

He failed at being a revolutionary. Revolutionaries need to protect themselves. Nobody is going to do it for them. He knew it was part of the game

[carterfelder]

1 minute ago, Twentyfirst said:

He didn't just have beliefs. He was a mouthpiece for a military killing machine that's responsible for carnage for millions of people. His "beliefs" were supporting his pedophile friends in the mass starvation of millions of innocent lives using debate tactics and sly deflection

If he had to choose between YOU and his stupid ass "beliefs". Trust me, he would let you die horribly and instantly 

It sounds like the problem you have might be coming from within instead of out there, my friend.

[Elliott]

44 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Bro, aside from all moral judgment, even if you HATE the guy, you shouldn't be HAPPY because this will have horrible consequences, it will create a vibe of fear and hate, it will radicalize people even more, and violence can escalate to levels we cannot even imagine. There is nothing to be happy about it. 

Again with the blatant masking, Bruh, i see no one in this entire thread saying they were happy, grow up.

[carterfelder]

Yes, Christianity has got some problems, and a whole lot of people do take most of what the Bible says quite literally. Should we celebrate them being killed? Should we show no remorse for them, their family members, friends and loved ones if they're killed? Should we get all emotional when they're killed and say, "they had this awful belief! They had it coming!" I think not.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Just because he lives in America does not mean he is safe from a war across the ocean that HE involved himself in

We don't even know if thats the reason. But how can you feel bad for him dying when he literally wanted as many people killed as possible just because they refuse to be dominated by Israel?

What kind of husband and father supports a genocide of other families? Shouldn't he be going to picnics and getting ice cream with his family? It's dark what he did with his time away from his family 

Did I say I felt bad for him dying. Where in my remarks did I say I felt bad for him dying. Just because I don't think congratulating other KILLERS for killing is the way to go, and that one doesn't make one any better doesn't mean I'm sad he's dead. This isn't about Kirk, it's about when will this stop. Thousands were at that nan's rally so obviously he wasn't alone in his beliefs. Shooting out his esophagus doesn't solve anything. Millions are left still with hatred in their hearts and killing and more killing isn't the answer.

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, carterfelder said:

Yes, Christianity has got some problems, and a whole lot of people do take most of what the Bible says quite literally. Should we celebrate them being killed? Should we show no remorse for them, their family members, friends and loved ones if they're killed? Should we get all emotional when they're killed and say, "they had this awful belief! They had it coming!" I think not.

You are missing the point of what I was saying. Kirk was a hypocrite. Those people in Gaza and the West Bank have lives and families as well. Why would it be okay for their lives to be taken away but suddenly when it happens to Kirk it's a problem?

[Elliott]

11 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

Yes, Christianity has got some problems, and a whole lot of people do take most of what the Bible says quite literally. Should we celebrate them being killed? Should we show no remorse for them, their family members, friends and loved ones if they're killed? Should we get all emotional when they're killed and say, "they had this awful belief! They had it coming!" I think not.

That's not what's said, what's said is this is the typical result of the hate and violence that Charlie spews. Violence goes both ways, heard of Karma? Charlie was a violent christo-fascist.

Edited 22 hours ago by Elliott

[Dayo]

I am not American and I don't fit into the left wing or right wing. This is a cruel cold blooded murder. This is not something to celebrate. The American citizens need to reflect on what they want USA to be. The left-right polarisation is not cutting it. The lessons and insights that Leo put in his Conscious politics need to be learned and embodied. This situation can lead to war and these would not allow for a conducive environment for self actualisation. The way I see it, we are in this world to love. To even love people we despise and dislike.  Consciousness is very important. We need to treasure it like a pearl of great price.

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Did I say I felt bad for him dying. Where in my remarks did I say I felt bad for him dying. Just because I don't think congratulating other KILLERS for killing is the way to go, and that one doesn't make one any better doesn't mean I'm sad he's dead. This isn't about Kirk, it's about when will this stop. Thousands were at that nan's rally so obviously he wasn't alone in his beliefs. Shooting out his esophagus doesn't solve anything. Millions are left still with hatred in their hearts and killing and more killing isn't the answer.

Im not congratulating the killer. I don't really care one way or another. Kirk is harmless to me when he's dead or alive. I am looking at this from a more holistic point of view. Kirk was just a symbol

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Twentyfirst said:

Im not congratulating the killer. I don't really care one way or another. Kirk is harmless to me when he's dead or alive. I am looking at this from a more holistic point of view. Kirk was just a symbol

Yes, I get that. I don't know the man either, it's just i don't see it being any different in the hearts of those publicly condoning this brutal slaying any different. If a killer gets killed I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to die, but just kill the man without justifying your hate also. To me, it's like saying you kill, I kill, but my killing is justified because. His beliefs and your loving the fact that someone shot his brains out(not you), isn't any different. That's all I'm saying. 

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, I get that. I don't know the man either, it's just i don't see it being any different in the hearts of those publicly condoning this brutal slaying any different. If a killer gets killed I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to die, but just kill the man without justifying your hate also. To me, it's like saying you kill, I kill, but my killing is justified because. His beliefs and your loving the fact that someone shot his brains out(not you), isn't any different. That's all I'm saying. 

Yeah but it's not just beliefs. All these MAGA assholes should be under trial for war crimes imo

Edited 22 hours ago by Twentyfirst

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, Dayo said:

The left-right polarisation is not cutting it.

Charlie being killed helps ease the divide. He was arguably the second most divisive political commentator.

[Salvijus]

There is a mass prayer in the world happening right now. 

So much love.... 

This will shake the world with the new currents of Light. 

This is very good... 

Edited 22 hours ago by Salvijus

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Yeah but it's not just beliefs. All these MAGA assholes should be under trial for war crimes imo

That's a different story. My stance is not justifying those assholes either. Going on trial is different from perpetrating the same thing one is against.

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's a different story. My stance is not justifying those assholes either. Going on trial is different from perpetrating the same thing one is against.

Leo just released a video on truth being the highest priority

Kirk allowed his wife and kids to be brainwashed by Zionism and now they have to live with that for the rest of their lives without ever being able to be corrected. The side effects to his own family from that will be worse than his own death. Terrible husband and father. It is what it is

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Twentyfirst said:

Leo just released a video on truth being the highest priority

Kirk allowed his wife and kids to be brainwashed by Zionism and now they have to live with that for the rest of their lives without ever being able to be corrected. The side effects to his own family from that will be worse than his own death. Terrible husband and father. It is what it is

And i don't deny that. Nothing here you said, I'd be against one saying. These words aren't hate words. There's a difference.

[Joshe]

6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

This will shake the world with the new currents of Light. 

Yes, I can feel the reverberation of the collective right wing prayer still pulsating beneath my feet. Their prayers for revenge will bring in much light. 

[Elliott]