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@LSD-Rumi The point is - try it for yourself. Who knows, you might get raped by an alien.

@Leo Gura Do you think about writing a book about mapping all these Awakenings/Alien States of Consciousness? It can be a Psychedelics Spiral Dynamics... or do you think it is irrelevant to map all that? To be honest I don't even think it's possible to map "Alien Stages of Consciousness".

Checkout Bashar for a more alien perspective, this is a documentary about Bashar from 2016: Bashar has shared with us their 'protocols for contact', a comprehensive list of the various phases they go through in contacting new societies: https://bashartv.com/the-protocols-of-first-contact-video-2-hours

@Juan the alien are so conscious they can just respawn i think. Not like human who forget what they are alien are hyper aware of themselves. Human last checkpoint before level up to aliens.

Watch this documentary about Bashar for a real alien perspective:

My teachings about alien stuff will be confined to my course. Nothing about my work has fundamentally changed. All the very radical stuff I will simply lock behind a paywall for those who want it. What I post on YT is designed for mass consumption and normies. What I post on my blog and elsewhere is designed to be more personal and more radical -- the stuff I shouldn't say on YT.

Yea that last vid is definitely not a UFO. The fact that it leaves a combustion trail is definitely proof that is it man made is that runs on some combustible fuel source, again not alien or advanced at all.

Oh without a doubt, there are dozens of people in that position. Let's not kid ourselves though, if the Alien Insanity post wasn't a joke, there are some serious concerns to be had. The question now becomes, will this forum accommodate fans of his old work to stick around? Because I'll always love actualized.org, no matter how extreme the Alien stuff gets. I just don't want to be expected to believe it.

Strawman. You need to have a "critical mass " of consciousness like that of a human or maybe an intelligent alien BESIDES dropping all beliefs. And with that said ..a peaceful monkey is more awake than an overthinking human. What do you think will be left if you stopped all beliefs? A belief by its nature is false . That's utter nonsense my dude . You're completely lost in concepts and fantasy puffy buffy land. What singularity that makes love to itself? I would rather think the earth is resting on a endless chain of turtles.

There is a fundamental essence that underlies reality. Call it whatever you want. Suchness, ultimate reality, absolute god consciousness true self no self. In the basis of your DUALITY illusory existence in separation, when you experience the substance of ultimate reality (UR) from the 'self looking out' you see 'matter'. That same substance of UR when 'self looks inside' is mind in your illusiory existence, But it is all 1 stuff! What you experience as matter and mind is just the substance of Ultimate reality or suchness or whatever you call it. They are not ALL mind. And 'your' mind is NOT all there is. AND you can't experience UR directly. Not with psychedelics. Not with meditation or not with some combination. That is the insight into emptiness and where ultimate not knowing arises from. What did you think masters were referring to with 'emptiness'? All of these insights are extremely deep and profound stuff. I watched Leo's video on impermanence some time ago and well to say the least, that was one of the most 'beginner' level and barebones understandings of said insight that is not even true in the highest level. See, what you need to realize is that 'ALL MIND' and claims like 'You are God and you have control over this imagination YOU create' etc sorta claims that also dovetails with hyper idealistic solipsism are NOT what non duality in its essence is about. I know it sounds so similar. After all, Leo is talking about non duality as well. But it is making it all 'egoic' and 'imbuing with control' where no such thing exists. He gives this importance to conscious experiences where none exists. There is not even a TINY bit of 'you' or separation of ANY degree where you can exercise such control. His alien awakenings also doesnt mean anything. I dont know this for sure but I do have an inkling Leo is very confused with his psychedelic experiences and doesnt know how to go forward with those experiences I'm sure he is actually changing things on the fly where through feedback and overall progression of his path, he must micro adjust, leave certain insights and morph them etc. This is nowhere as 'smooth' sailing of a process his admittedly authoritative and charismatic persona makes one believe. And this is absolutely not what masters mean by 'this path is infinite' Sure thats true but thats not what Leo is doing. I hope he sees the error of his perceptions but again, he has a touch too much arrogance to introspect on this line of questioning so he probably wont. And hey! Thats ok. Leo is still overall more conscious than your average person and I'm sure lots of people will benefit from him and HAD already benefitted from him A LOT. All the best for him.

Sure, but his way to express it is really weird ? Yeah, but that thing about the cia having an alien spaceship is stupid, right? have they taken it from the aliens? Or did they have an accident? men in black?

Perhaps the deeper insight here is that none of this really matters much. It's a forum. It has people. People are peopling. It's like a human zoo. But how infinitely boring are these endless discussions about the social dynamics here? Leo runs this business basically all by himself. You're all free to be here or not be here. The man wants to teach about Alien Consciousness and Absolute Infinity. And instead of entering the rabbit hole of wonder and beauty you're all entering some social shit hole. <3

Shit...going up 40, 50, etc, or one day directly 100? how was that experience? The alien awakening and all that happens with that trip?

@Leo Gura I've noticed that your tone of voice has become more violent recently. The blog post about alien insanity is a recent example of this. I have been a serious student of your work for almost a decade now, so I am able to put into context all your seemingly megalomaniac claims á la “I am God, no one is more awake than me.” But I also remember a time in the not-too-distant past when you frequently stated that you wanted to become more compassionate and loving in your teachings. What happened to that? I understand that you don't need your work to conform to any standard of politeness, but this does not seem like a skillful way to get your point across. It must be difficult to remain patient with so many people misinterpreting so many aspects of what you are saying, raising the same points over and over again—I get it. From my perspective, it often looks like you are losing your temper, which seems unlike you. So, what's going on? I'd like to know where you're coming from.

The government is lying about everything alien related. I wouldn't put it past them to send out false videos so they can keep the real ones. If they put out something Is more powerful than them they lose their identity as the most powerful in the world and thats all they have going for them right now. They would collapse and ego death. Chinese spy balloon was a false flag so they could shoot down ufos

I want to go insane, like alien insane.

It's official! Hyper dimensional alien insane God conscious Leo is here to stay!

I cant bear these normies who can't digest these stuff and feel like a youtube video is "dangerous". lol. Imagine Leo teaching alien insanity on YT. Would be real cool imo.

Tells a lot about alien believers..

@Leo Gura Have you ever accessed Alien Consciousness without psychedelics? Or only a memory of it? Have you ever accessed it without weed?

The case of Leo seem like the case of Ramana Maharshi. Let's say that Ramana Maharshi's level of awakenedness is same as Carl Jung, Dalai Lama, Albert Einstein, desciples of Jesus are. Ramana Maharshi teached that you have to meditate only on the crown chakra, and you are separated from your body and mind and you can be on his awakenedness level only by this consciousness, this is similar like what Leo say that we have to know alien consciousness to be on his level. But there are let's say Carl Jung and Descipes of Jesus, who would say that you don't need what Ramana Maharshi say to be on the level of Ramana Maharshi. This is why Leo should make talk with Claude Clauidu from Quora website who seem to be a higher soul like Leo.

We are talking about type of consciousness on this thread which is understanding of reality. Every spiritual awakening is some amount of sudden increasement of this type of consciousness, but it will get back within minutes or hours, but if the person try to embody it, then you will be stabely higher than an avarage person. Like measuring how much IQ somebody has give a concrete value, how awakened somebody is can be measured. Serious spirituality consider this type of consciousness as a concrete thing, as Leo said that he know he has truth because he is awakened. Playing unserious meditation non-duality, or philosofical mental games are not increasing this consciousness, but only people can know this who experienced some awakening or impoved his awarness with well directed self-improvement. If a person not motivated enough then practices that maybe worked for others, for him will never work and even block into some spiritual belief and he delude himself that he imporved himself. When an avarage person say that I am god and when a more awakened person say that I am god then there is difference. It is come from religion that only who don't have arrogance have higher understanding. Leo made his videos by trying to embody them in his life which can be seen on his contents. Somebody can be highly awakened, but maybe don't talk about god at all. The problem I see between Leo and forum members is that losing soul attachments is what increase awakenedness and not alien consciousness or human insanity. So somebody can be with as little psychological escape or be as awakened like Leo (he is highly awakened anyway), the person not talk about god or spiritual matters in the way Leo speak and the person don't talk about alien consciousness for example Claude Claudiu from Quora. I for example I felt deeple awakened to that every spiritual progress is neurotic, but Leo don't awakened to this because he had other attachments. Awakening is just this: Increasement of consciousness in the consciousness related to awakenings, but it doesn't related to any theme essentially. Any Spiritual Awakening increasing one type of consciousness.

I just read on the blog that according to him it is absolutely true that the government has alien ships in its possession. that there are so many millions of stars that it is impossible to deny the existence of intelligent life in any of them. and? Does that mean that there are alien ships hidden by the government? and that seasoned with: I use my mind and you don't. well it doesn't seem like it

The question is: Why would I want to have that alien insanity experience? because conscience allows it? and? Will it make me understand conscience better? Put to have experiences, I prefer to cross the Antarctic on foot or something like that. What's happening with Leo, in my opinion, is that he's become a complete psychonaut and has renounced being human. well, it's his life, in the end we all die and that's it. But Leo, man, you could be less aggressive, let's forget that shit of who is the best, if you are alone, why be so worried about the rats, the Buddhist, the republicans, and everything else? Let's enjoy life, express love and breath the air, we don't need anything else.

This is a response to the following blog post: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-043 Obviously, we have very little idea of what exactly Leo means by this just from one paragraph. However, it does seem to be a plausible result of pushing substances such as DMT, ayahuasca, or mushrooms to their ultimate extent. I’ve taken ayahuasca at moderately high doses 8 times over the past year, and there definitely is an alien strangeness to it that’s difficult to describe or contextualize within any sort of conventional understanding of reality. In one of my recent trips, I delved into the territory of what would be called “regular insanity”. It didn’t get to the point of full blown psychosis, but I did experience extreme confusion, an inability to understand basic concepts of reality, and a sense of radical expansiveness that made thoughts seem irrelevant. Insanity to almost anyone is a quite unpleasant experience, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it lacks value. A key component of generating new insights is first breaking down old frameworks. Ideally, one would strike a balance between chaos and order, such as what occurs in the flow state. This has also been called the zone of proximal development. However, the more radical psychedelic states require pushing further than this. It’s sometimes necessary to go too far to gain a broader understanding of what’s possible. During my trips, I think of this as dancing with the line between sanity and insanity. Even so, it’s difficult for me to think of complete insanity as being anything other than undesirable. If the goal is Truth, then Insanity would certainly be a large component. However, if Truth is Infinity, then your goal would be everything. Having Everything as a goal, though, isn’t a goal at all, it’s the same as not having a goal. Because having a goal implies there’s a difference between what is and isn’t desired. If the main purpose of actualized.org is still personal development, then spirituality can be thought of as self actualization taken to its ultimate extent. However, that would imply that there’s a difference between what can be considered developed versus undeveloped. Therefore, it would be possible for me to claim that Insanity (even of the “Alien” variety) is spirituality gone wrong if it leads to mental dysfunction. It may be foolish for me to ask if Insanity can be achieved “safely”, as it seems to be the precise opposite of safety. This comes across to me as an extreme form of nihilism, as I imagine that one could fully awaken to the fact that they were never a human, but still be content living out the rest of this human dream relatively normally. If Infinity is the Truth, then shouldn’t we try to cultivate the highest of what’s possible? Doesn’t that seem better than succumbing to cosmic madness? Because no matter how high of an awakening you reach, don’t you then have to come back to your life and do something with it?