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@Leo Gura I am extremely cautious believe me with these things... I would rather NOT relive an imaginary demonic alien invasion The thing is I've had a LOT of therapy. Hours upon hours clinic after clinic I was talking about all the shit that happened and keeps happening to me but it did absolutely fucking nothing. Nothing ever changed or got processed if anything I would get triggered and hallucinate garbage again The Self Talk Therapy where I write out a conversation between different aspects of me (The Exiled Child, The Manager, The Schizoid one) seems most helpful as of right now. I even bought a book from Teal Swan, one of the methods was basically just what I describe above And listening to certain music on HHC... I will dig deeper into journaling and this breathwork stuff even though I despise laying on the floor for 50 mins and doing that ? Like, what would be the root of intrusive horror thoughts. How do I get rid of this root.

I agree that some Awakenings can't be had without psychedelics. And that what you call Alien Consciousness is for sure cutting edge. And I do consider you a pioneer, and have read so far most of what you wrote, and watched most of your videos. "Alien Consciousness is completely beyond everything those Buddhists understand or have ever achieved." That I don't know, since I don't know what every Buddhist has achieved. But it is very well possible what you write, since they didn't have 5-MeO and other stuff. They had psychedelics [ Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana ], but not all what is available now, and not pure. But some exploration they did: https://www.psychedelicsangha.org/paisley-gate/2019/5/8/the-supreme-array-scripture-a-psychedelic-stra-for-buddhist-psychonauts-pp3zz , Yet, I consider Full Enlightenment becoming that Ultimate Reality as a Deep Identity level shift, with no more filters of the separate-self not seen through or covering that Realization/Deep Identity Level shift, no more filter on any of these Awakenings/Enlightenments. True Self, because every being is that already, with some illusion-clouds on top. Not projecting Absolute Reality on separate-self remains, but pure Impersonal Infinite Consciousness. And since that brings bliss and liberation in daily life. I consider it highly valueable. Summum Bonum [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summum_bonum ] So lets continue exploring and awakening to ever higher, larger and more encompassing [Alien] perspectives in Indras Net of Reality, since that is one of the reasons why we are, and one of the reasons God is playing that game/Lila. I just propose doing that from a consideration of the basis of the Summum Bonum mentioned above. Considering that suffering = continued search for further experiences/understandings/realization and end of suffering = resting in ones Deep True Identity as Reality itself, there is a "little" pointer given by Reality via suffering on that issue. Specifically: Placing the importance/value of Alien Consciousness on the same level as striving for Full Enlightenment, i feel fine with that. As long as the Alien Consciousness doesn't drag home some less-than-healthy consequences. Why? Because the paths for both goals go towards more Consciousness, not less. They run parallel, or at least normally not opposed if one doesn't get lost in these Alien Awakenings. Which probably can be avoided. Placing anything higher as the striving for Full Enlightenment is in my perspective choosing suffering, which is not a permanently sustainable strategy. That is the only reason why I am writing all of this. Besides that, I am a big fan Leo! The world needs more people like you. The more pioneers we have, the faster the Wild West is explored. And the faster we know where the rattlesnakes are hiding, which branch-off of the path leads to Death Valles and which leads to California. Water by the River

@Water by the River Thank you for the effort and thought you put into your posts and explanations of Buddhism. There's some good stuff in what you quote. And I see what is being gotten at there. There's definitely value to that. However, I still insist that the God-Realization I speak of is beyond that and cannot be attained via those methods. Although I do not dismiss that those attainments you mention are very good and valuable, and perhaps that's the most a human mind can attain as a permanent state. But Alien Consciousness is completely beyond everything those Buddhists understand or have ever achieved. And THAT is the real difference between what I teach and what every other spiritual human on this planet teaches. Again, the problem is that Buddhism is reductionistic. It tries to boil consciousness down to emptiness. It tries to deconstruct consciousness. Which is NOT what I am teaching and not the highest consciousness. To truly fathom consciousness requires a non-reductionist approach in which consciousness grasps itself at the highest level. None of this Buddhism even begins to touch the highest level of Alien Mind which I have discovered. You will not reach Alien Consciousness through any kind of monitoring techniques of your thoughts. And so as I have said before, Buddhism is fine, it gets you to certain levels of consciousness. But nowhere near the levels which I have been to. No, we are not talking about the same Awakening. And that's the whole rub.

@Leo Gura I mean you could quit. You have already put out a vast library of life-transforming work that is going to be relevant for a long-time. Especially with psychedelics as they seem be the cutting edge of spirituality at this time. Also, I think your work on YouTube plus you constantly nagging people and telling them they can go deeper on the forum can lead a lot of people to deep God realizations. Selfishly, I would be very disapointed if you did not release something regarding alien consciousness. I'm extremely drawn to this and really want to access this state in my life time. Of course, I'm assuming a lot about it through concepts, images etc... but I'm drawn nonetheless. Let's see what you decide to do...

It could be just a kid wearing an underwear on his head. What's weird is how natural the walk is, like that's how it's walking it's whole life. It's possible to train a kid to do that, but requires a lot of effort. Thin, like malnourished, small. Not wearing anything. It's shiny, or Oily, or Glowy. It's more "glowy" than the other objects in the viciniy. Large head. The case is called "the Dobby Mystery" They've interviewed the owner, possible that it's her son. His Son is closely related to the built of the being on the video. But the mother denied it, saying the son is beside her when it happened. The owner told the news, that the camera only records 10 seconds after detecting movement. What do you think?

My explanation of it is pretty simple. In order to be human you must reside within a very narrow and low state of consciousness. This is true even if you are a fully enlightenment Buddha. Your consciousnes is still less 1% of what is possible. And that is simply because that's what it means to be human. The highest levels of consciousness are so alien and non-human that a human can barely remember or think about them, nevermind access them at will, nevermind making such changes permenent. What the human can make permament is very very little. Which is why enlightenment teachers poo-poo the whole idea of "chasing states". They tell you not to do it because a human can't sustain them. That's what "human" IS. Human means being pretty much in the state you're currently in. But what a human can sustain is something like deep surrender and emptiness. Which is what they call enlightenment. And this has it's benefits for humans, but as far as consciousness goes it's still weak. So it's sort of a sad situation because most of consciousness remains inacceesible and unsustainable for humans. Merely by the fact of being human. I guess after death that will change. Which is the point of death. Death finally frees you to explore higher domains because you are no longer attached to the human experience scheme.

@effortlesslumen on a shroom trip i leave my body and I went to the second dimension. It was 2d from my perception and there was a board game. Try to imagine the point that you focus your eyes on as the 2d dimension they can look up and down but never back or forward only focus and un focus. I was moving around like that. And then I hit 1 d and it was just rooms going from left to right. The rooms had no depth but they looked like they had depth you cant enter them because its like you are behind glass to the rooms. There was an alien in one of the rooms and he try to mind wipe me.

@Jehovah increases Yeah, they either evolved a way to bend space and time using their alien minds, or through their technology, or a bit of both, creating temporary worm holes or something.

I don't remember the last time a girl said this to me. It's possible I have never even gotten this. If you are getting this, then you are doing something badly wrong, as a man, in the approach itself. But anyway, even if I did get this, my response would be, depending on my mood, something like "Well, you better run '', or "Yes, and proud of it. '', and walk away to approach another girl in front of her (in a fun, properly calibrated way, like a proper man). -- Getting triggered and defensive over this is similar to if someone called you a horse, or an alien (alien rat), or a house, or a car... You would not care, simply because it is not true, and you would laugh it off. For me it would most likely (unless I am in a heavy, negative space) actually come across funny if someone called me a horse: '', what makes you think that? Do I look like a very fast runner?'' Basically, you get triggered and defensive only because it is At Least somewhat true. Especially during a social and fun situation. And finally, you mention that you don't want to ''reward'' their bad behavior. Well... When you get triggered by these lower-conscious, negative people, you are actually giving them exactly what they want: your ego getting poked. Ignoring them and moving on is the best punishment.

@mr_engineer What if alien in that moment loses his self control and finally comes down to shake your hand? Man does what he wants take risks, but if you think police will come to you because you were "creeping "on girls that means you either watched too many red pill, or you doing something messed up without realizing.

Lol, okay... and of course following some crackpot psychedelic junkie with a massive superiority complex who prattles on about Alien Insanity and whatnot won't lead you off the spiritual cliff, right? The big irony, as exemplified in this thread, is that none of you guys who think that they are so above Buddhist doctrine have any idea what it even means to follow the Buddhist path and where it can potentially lead to. Including Leo. And I am saying this as a non-religious person.

And "insane levels of consciousness" or "insigh" into what? Appearance/Form/Arisings IN Absolute Reality. N+1, evermore, forever. You never "arrive" somewhere (IT is infinite and Infinity). And while doing that and not being fully enlightened (or BEING Ones True Nature, Absolute Reality): Suffering in cycles. "I have never claimed that psychedelics result in the lack of suffering." But at least I got the message that the end of psychological suffering (or Full Enlightenment) was declared impossible, or at least as lower in value or priority (like in "spiritual summom bonum, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summum_bonum) to ever new and higher Awakenings. Please correct me if I got the wrong impression. Look, exploring Reality with ever new Awakenings: Wonderful, I am all for it! It is the future of Humanity, and you are a pioneer. There are literally endless dimensions to be explored. By the way, do you know the work of Jurgen Ziewe (longtime Out of body explorer, with legit Enlightenment experiences)? (http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Model_of_the_Multidimensional_Universe.html ; http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Higher_Mental_Planes_or_Heaven_Worlds.html ; http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Life_after_death_-_a_description_of_the_afterlife.html ) for example. I am sure you would love it. The only problem I see is giving that higher exploration of ever higher Awakenings n+1 more value/priority over stabilzing in ones True Being (Full Enlightenment). Because it will lead to more suffering for many, including you. That is as far as I can see that is pretty much the only point where we have different perspectives. And please take care that you dont take some demons/angels (sorry old fashioned wording from a few centuries ago) Aliens of the not so well meaning kind (Jaques Valle, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers; Charles Upton, The Alien Disclosure Deception; Graham Hancock, Supernatural) back home from the exploration, and go really insane and not just a bit alien insane. And that is meant not ironically, but well meaning and respectfully. Hic sunt dracones. All the best for your future journey, and same for all forum participants. Really. Water by the River

Sure, neither is right or wrong but I am also very interested in deep understanding and that is why I follow you very seriously. But there's so much else involved. I was very sick for a 21 year old and I had to focus on health and I took kriya yoga seriously, I have done well over 1000 hours now and I am still only 23. There is another part of it that changes you're brain chemistry slowly making you a happier and more peaceful person. This has wide ranging benefits and especially when it comes to being productive and effective - being happier is better. Sad and depressed people don't get stuff done (well I think so anyways). I think it helped me a lot with health, OCD, making me happier and so on... I think it is helpful for my life purpose and dealing with survival. I know you don't like hippie woo woo stuff. But in my experience, I have genuinely noticed it is easier for me to manifest stuff into my life. I mean this very sincerely and it is a living reality for me. I think it has set a very powerful base for investigating reality, for example being healthy, less compulsive about food, sex, sleeping less, sharper mind, sharper senses and so on. As you say state matters as does meeting your survival needs which I find are easier to manifest. I want to discover God, I want to discover alien consciousness (just a belief for me based on what you say) but doing something for basic health and wellbeing has been a very powerful starting point so maybe you could say it is a priority. I think you were just hell bent on truth lol. Also man, you talk a lot about hard work and being very disciplined etc... to some extent I agree but I read a lot of your posts about hard work and I don't agree with them. I work half as much as I use to and I am much more successful now. I actually don't really believe in hard work especially when it comes to meeting survival needs and having a life purpose. My experience has been that these things can be crafted effortlessly but this again happend after doing a lot of yoga. I mean Sadhguru talks about making your life energies vibrant so you cam easily have what you want. I don't know what the fuck that means but usually I easily get what I want.

... and that is called Tantric Buddhism, or Vajrayana. What you describe with the focus on Nirvana and the excessive focus on the end of suffering and so on comes from the early forms of Buddhism. https://www.shambhala.com/historical-introduction-excerpt-integral-buddhism/ One Taste, Wilber: "The integral sage, the nondual sage, is here to show us otherwise. Known generally as “Tantric,” these sages insist on transcending life by living it. They insist on finding release by engagement, finding nirvana in the midst of samsara, finding total liberation by complete immersion. They enter with awareness the nine rings of hell, for nowhere else are the nine heavens found. Nothing is alien to them, for there is nothing that is not One Taste. Indeed, the whole point is to be fully at home in the body and its desires, the mind and its ideas, the spirit and its light. To embrace them fully, evenly, simultaneously, since all are equally gestures of the One and Only Taste. To inhabit lust and watch it play; to enter ideas and follow their brilliance; to be swallowed by Spirit and awaken to a glory that time forgot to name. Body and mind and spirit, all contained, equally contained, in the ever-present awareness that grounds the entire display. In the stillness of the night, the Goddess whispers. In the brightness of the day, dear God roars. Life pulses, mind imagines, emotions wave, thoughts wander. What are all these but the endless movements of One Taste, forever at play with its own gestures, whispering quietly to all who would listen: is this not you yourself? When the thunder roars, do you not hear your Self? When the lightning cracks, do you not see your Self? When clouds float quietly across the sky, is this not your very own limitless Being, waving back at you?" The blue part is literal. It is not poetic. Bon voyage! Water by the River PS: When considering "buying" Buddhism, don't just buy the Iphone 2 (Theravada, Hinayana). At least consider the Iphone 14, or some forms of Tantric Buddhism. Comes with Dzogchen, Mahamudra, and uhm, the juicy stuff: Tantra. Below: "Hevajra in union with his consort Nairātmyā". What exactly are they doing? Heaven and Earth, Consciousness and form, Emptiness and Appearance madly in loving union, dancing the cosmic dance in embrace until the end of time...

With that I meant the general classifications that exist within buddhism about re-birth and beign an once-retuner, arhat stream enterer etc. That these stats of consciouness stay upon death similar to when your body deteriorating deep down the state of consciouness is still there, even if it is overriden with pain etc. As far as I retrace the info correctly. (Similar to stories of Wilber turning of his brain waves & Shinzen not taking his medicine because of his thyroid issue) That is what I mean in that sense the cycle of re-birth and consciouness infused with structure-stages and the growth into these. I also recall correctly that you mentioned retreats, solo retreats & etc. can produce mini god-consciouness & or alien consciouness experiences, I don't know if there is a distinction between the two generally speaking it's pretty difficult in this technical area to have any clarity. I am pretty sure it was mentioned in the context of god-consciouness/realization I am still pretty much down to do the normal path and spice it up with psychdelic usage, the research & science of this convinced me that it's a super valid and under used tool, it's just not easy and in fact extremely difficult to navigate this space imo. There are plenty of things like even dark room retreats that produce DMT, that should make the use "mechanics" of DMT etc. a valid reference point for conscious experiences. I also presume society is more ready for it generally speaking otherwise we would not have the techno & psychdelic scene rising. Considering re-birth and what is written about it, if I recall correctly the ordinary path is already great. I'll legit would need to take a vacay to consume your content seriously just to get the patch download of the recent version, it's not easy to follow someone who works hard. Hope you're not to upset about this would be cool if there is a video about deconstructing buddhism similar to science, that would really fit the channel and might create a better comprehension of what you're teaching. As it's heavily psychdelic oriented and maybe retreats? It's a little confusing as on what to do practically besides psychdelics & thinking / self-inquiry type of exercises. Just read you blog post, hope you're doing well recovering! Wish you the best & a lot of rest! ❤️

Easy to overlook that 99,9%+ of Buddhists are not enlightened, and at least 99% of Buddhist teachers on the spiritual market place are not fully enlightened? Yes, the "success rate" of the Buddhist project is not good, not to say abysmal... But its a long journey over many (dream-)lifes, and the other spiritual systems/traditions are also not more successful. And for the "masses", Buddhism teaches mainly compassion & love & integration into the world/society/other beings, or generally staying open and loving to all that appears in Ones True Being/Reality, which is the same as living a healthy life on the relative level. Dream? Yes, but a dream more on the happy side and not a nightmare-dream. Which is probably precisely what most souls need to learn in this round of the game. And which is necessary to stabilize Awakening. A big part of the Gateless Gate is made out of compassion. I myself was also like "hey, wake up, that is all relative-level-stuff, go directly to Awakening and so on, why so much about this Boddhichitta and compassion-teaching stuff and why not more emphasis on the real Awakening-teachings?", but over the years as I got older that changed a bit.... Ken Wilber once said in One Taste: "First, although it is generally true that the East has produced a greater number of authentic realizers, nonetheless, the actual percentage of the Eastern population that is engaged in authentic transformative spirituality is, and always has been, pitifully small. I once asked Katagiri Roshi, with whom I had my first breakthrough (hopefully, not a breakdown), how many truly great Ch’an and Zen masters there have historically been. Without hesitating, he said, “Maybe one thousand altogether.” I asked another Zen master how many truly enlightened—deeply enlightened— Japanese Zen masters there were alive today, and he said, “Not more than a dozen.” (that statement from Katagiri was at least 30 years ago, probably rather 40. Nowadays its more for sure (and that quote should not cause any limiting belief), but still shows that one should not take the "Enlightenment" of the next Zen Teacher as the final thing. Chances are way higher that it isn't). Most Enlightenments/Awakenings are not full/deep Enlightenment (in Zen called Great Enlightenment), where there is no more doubt about the nature of Reality, God, Ones True Self. Water by the River @Leo Gura PS: Deep respect from my side concerning your last blog-post. That takes a very high degree of Integrity, Self-Reflection, and above all staying open. Very(!) few people could do something like that. So really deep respect for that, and hopefully I am not coming across in any way condescending or jovial in any way, because that is not intended. Whatever caused your suffering, I wish you all the best and a swift end of suffering, and a fast return to the bliss & pioneering exploration of the higher realms/dimensions! PSPS: Maybe you already know some of that material, but if not you will probably find these books quite interesting: Jaques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers Paperback Graham Hancock, Supernatural Charles Upton, The Alien Disclosure Deception: The Metaphysics of Social Engineering. Although some of that stuff is in my opinion too deeply infused with Traditionalist School (perennialism) of Guénon, Coomaraswamy and Schuon, still a very interesting perspective. Jürgen Ziewe (Out of body explorer over 40 years, with valid Enlightenment-experience-descriptions) for example: http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Model_of_the_Multidimensional_Universe.html http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Life_after_death_-_a_description_of_the_afterlife.html http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Higher_Mental_Planes_or_Heaven_Worlds.html

Calming the mind can be good, but it also has some serious limits. You need mind to reach very advanced understanding of God. One of the reasons I've been able to reach new kinds of understanding of God and Consciousness -- this alien stuff -- is because I did not take the standard path of just silencing my mind. And it paid off in some amazing ways. If you just shut off your mind your understanding of Consciousness will be quite limited in the end. You may get other benefits but your understanding will be lacking. Which is exactly the issue with all the Buddhists. They can sit for days in bliss under a tree, but they don't understand the mechanics of God. Many of them even dare to claim that God doesn't exist. Which is just embarrassing.

That was still human. You can realize the limitations of Buddhism long before you reach alien mind.

There is the human mind. And then you can transcend that into alien mind territory. All conventional spirituality, like Buddhism and nonduality, are all still part of the human mind territory. They do not access alien mind no matter how much enlightenment or cessation or samadhi or ego loss they have.

That's a thorny political issue. India is a very under-developed stage Blue country. So they gotta go through that phase for some time. Yes, nationalism can easily go overboard and lead to all sorts of nasty results. But they can't just jump over that phase. There is a high cost to building a great civilization. There is a lot of collateral damage. Realistically some Muslims will be hurt in that process in India and China. It is possible to access alien consciousness. Impugning my character will not change this fact.

Well of course that's true. All my claims are about Infinite Mind. I never said God is a space alien. That's not a function of him lying.

@Leo Gura I’m good with that. Everyone’s idea, or thought or however you want to put it, of alien, is different. Some will think of something so out there, so foreign to them, as alien. Others will think of a humanoid type specie as alien, the word in itself alien, nobody truly understands. What that is. We all have different interpretations and I think that’s what makes it so confusing. But the same can be said for ‘God’ itself. Everyone seems to have a different interpretation of what that means, what that might be. So as confusing as alien consciousness/love might be, I totally get you with the difficulty of a possible explanation. As I say, from my perspective, all in your own time bud, your work has helped me to get to where I’m at, and I couldn’t be more appreciative of that. So I trust that in your own time, in your own way, through whatever means you think ends up being the best way to get your message across, you will. That doesn’t mean I’ll agree btw, only through direct experience will I ever agree, and again that’s trough your teachings that I have that mindset. So cheers. I think I speak for most serious people on this forum, when I say no rush, in your own time. It’s better to get your teachings as accurate as possible than to just rush them out purely for the sake of rushing them out there due to being pressured to explain yourself. Quality over quantity as you might say ??

I think you need to backtrack and tell them that Mind - infinite Mind - is not human. That does make it alien. But to elude that it is some type of space alien is misleading. God doesn't say - hey I'm an alien.

@Dazgwny Your question is not stupid. I've made vague claims of Alien consciousness and Alien love and it makes sense that you guys want to know more. But at the same time it's a very challenging topic to explain which requires work on my part to explain it properly because it does not fit any existing spiritual teachings.

@Leo Gura Hey Leo ?? you know when you talk about alien consciousness, what does that mean? I genuinely feel like I’m quite advanced with your teachings, I’ve certainly had some major awakenings. With your teachings being the main instrument, I can’t thank you enough. Therefore it’s clear if I’m feeling that I’m all good with your teachings, verified the majority of them personally, and even more than what you’ve taught, because that’s what happens, you verify more than what your teaching show us, because teachings can only go so far. But I credit your teachings for my understandings because it’s your teachings that enabled me to be open enough to go as far as I’ve come. But what is alien awakening? Is it something that is so foreign that you call it alien? Is it alien as in, we’re of human mind set and what you’re talking about is of say another physical species but of a higher consciousness? Or is it of a totally other dimension? Or something else? I just quite don’t know how I go above and beyond the generalised full god realisation that I’ve had. Where I completely understand how I’ve created everything, my life, other people, things, just everything. Where can you possibly go from there? You know what I’m talking about because you’ve been where I am at, and you know you thought that was total at the time. Can you give any sort of explanation what alien consciousness is, even just to a degree that is who are where you were at maybe 2/3 years ago can even remotely understand. Cheers ?