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That’s the irony of human logic. Alien consciousness is beyond that, so the very notion of understanding, knowing, or experience (again, as a human) flies out the window. It’s so massive, beyond size, that everything becomes alien. Anyway, I’ve only experienced it very briefly once or twice. Maybe I will experience it again, maybe I won’t. I’ll let God decide. I’m currently not alien conscious as I write this reply.

I’ve never done 5-MeO once in my life and I understand what he refers to by alien consciousness. I wish I could give a rational examination, but it’s beyond rational. Let’s not make Leo into a cult leader. That’s against this work.

You said "name a better place". I didn't think "Leo's teachings" was a place. But anyways, I would do the same thing for Leo the person: he is a person with a certain background and experiences, done a lot of spiritual practices, self-help, a shitload of psychedelics, etc.; probably saved a few lives in the process as well. Well, I haven't done a shitload of 5-MeO-DMT, so I don't really know what he means with Alien Consciousness or ultimate God-realization. I can only extrapolate based on my "shitload" of meditation-induced mystical experiences and a few LSD experiences. I could believe that he has experienced some crazy shit, but I don't really know what he has experienced. But from how he talks about it, it seems to mostly agree with basic non-duality, so there is not much to disagree about there.

Agreeing and believing Leo about God is yet another bias. Best to let the Universe give you a instead and let your own direct experience speak for itself. If you’re still needing a logical and definitive explanation for all of THIS, then good luck. You’ll be searching for the next billion years. THIS is right here, right now. I am you, you are me, blah, blah, blah. Yet, some are still awaiting for the next profound Alien Magic extravaganza for Leo to blow us away with.

Ah, yes. Just like the time he skipped seeing a girlfriend for a yoga date and instead shat alien blood on his carpet. Good times!

Agree on what? Not looking for agreement or disagreement necessarily. Those are irrelevant. What you should be doing is listening, paying attention to what a teacher communicates, and from there decide whether you want to study his or her work deeper or not. The validity of a communication stands on its own. I ignore the alien consciousness stuff because I've got no interest in it and have no idea what it is really. The "classic" work is already hard by itself. Neither do I share the claim that psychedelics can produce consciousness/awakening.

Thank you both @vibv & @Leo Gura!! Aren't there always higher levels of consciousness though? Aren't there levels that make alien consciousness look like silly nonsense? If I was born as a frog, human levels of consciousness would seem incredible and make me feel like frog consciousness is ridiculous and stupid. But it would kinda be a shame if I spent my entire life as a frog trying to have glimpses of human consciousness instead of living it up as a frog while I can, right? Why not eat hella bugs, sing my frog heart out, and live the most immaculate amphibious life possible? Then, I would assume consciousness could play whatever games it wants after that! It could go be a human, an alien, or anything else! Let me know if that example makes sense lmfaooooo. Again, I only go back to this analogy because it's useful, but heroin addicts prioritize temporary drug-induced pleasure over all else, and many of them die because the human body has limitations on how many drugs it can sustain. And if you prioritize temporary drug-induced consciousness over all else, aren't you also incentivized to push the human body to the point of real damage? If this human thing is all silly nonsense, why take care of the body?

Cool, that's settled then. Lol, right. Listen to what? "I am the most awake guy on the planet (even though there are no others), only I can tell you what awakening is (even though I don't know how), Alien Insanity ftw"? If that is the whole 'teaching', then I sure as heck don't know what I or anyone else is supposed to do with it. If you do, then please ENLIGHTEN me.

There is alien wetness which no human mule will ever know.

Yup. However, once you discover alien consciousness, you will realize everything else is silly nonsense.

You're not human. You're a multi-dimensional alien that lives beyond time.

I haven’t been very active on the forum, so I’m not really up to date on today’s discussion here. Therefore I must ask: what do you refer to when you talk about your teachings, especially in the context of no one understanding? Is it about the stuff you have made videos about and talked about for years already, but that it is misunderstood by everyone on the forum, or is it something new; stuff like alien consciousness that you’ve been touching on a bit on the forum? If it’s the latter one, then I would question the measure in which you say it is teached, cause I don’t count forum discussions as teaching, especially in subjects like that. Not to say that you have to teach anything. But I’m eaget to deepen my undestanding and especially understand stuff you talk about. I’ve been waiting for videos or a course from you to give me insight. Absolutely zero demanding here. I’m already very grateful for everything you’ve done. I only wish to be up to date with where we at, and with what specifically?

I'm so grateful for this community and the fact that I can ask questions like this here! Excited to hear everyone's thoughts. @Leo Gura has been mentioning "alien" and "transhuman" states of consciousness that can only be accessed by psychedelics and cannot be locked in as a baseline state. What makes it a good strategy to pursue more and more temporary experiences of alien consciousness, then? Why not explore human consciousness while we're living as humans and then go explore other levels of consciousness once we're not human anymore? Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics, and I think they can have a very profound impact on the level of human consciousness that we CAN sustain in a natural state. But Like… if transhuman consciousness is what you're after… isn't the best strategy to just stop being human lmfao??? Isn't it an odd goal to chase something that, by definition, can't be fully attained by a human? Why not master the human realm of consciousness instead of being really bad at transhuman levels? Of course, I mean this analogy with all due respect, but I thought the big reason why people don't do heroin is because the ecstasy it produces can never be sustained and it makes the rest of life feel pretty damn bland. So does that not happen when pursuing temporary states of alien consciousness too? It sounds incredibly frustrating for anyone who values consciousness to attempt to sustain a transhuman level of consciousness that can only be experienced for short periods. It sounds like that pursuit would make you have a lot less gratitude for your life and human levels of consciousness. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

@Osaid No he doesn't. He's perfectly clear that God is One and Absolute. One dreamer dreaming. His infinity of Gods vid is there only to confuse people. Unless you mean that he thinks there is something above infinite, perfect love in it's various expressions. In that case, I would agree that he is imagining various nonsense, like alien consciousness or whatever.

He said that "Alien Love" is a thing. That's probably the most interesting thing to me. Might be tied with the alien mouse experience actually, both sound wild.

LOL I know right? But I get it, he had a profound experience into the nature of an interdimensional Alien Mouse and that level of Infinite Intelligent Expression would and could make a human identity turn their nose down at humans. I would suggest Leo maybe change his perspective and look at the miracle and goodness of humans. I've had awakenings into the innate genius of humanity and how precious each of their lives are. It has shown me that each individual's awakening is just a reflection of their egoic world view. So Leo on a subconscious level wanted to experience the deepest most complex form that Infinite Intelligence could show him and that manifested into him awakening to Alien Intelligence and experiencing being that mouse. Pretty interesting.

It's NOT like an alien?? Hearsay!

are you going to release an episode on youtube regarding alien consciousness before your course?

@Bobby_2021 Wait till you reach the Alien Mind stage. Now that's magical.

I was 20/21 when I first found out about enlightenment from Mr. Leo. Then it gradually evolved into psychedelics and then transcending enlightenment into Alien Consciousness, and now here we are. And we are just getting started

My hunch is god is alone. Hinduism says Krishna creating Radha to love himself. As above, so below. The microscom and the macrocosm. So, our search for love or alien life reflects god’s search for an equal.

Alien Conscioussness... Different question, are you happy and fulfilled?

Yes. I've considered it more than all of you have. Which is why I transcended into alien consciousness and none of you even knows what that is.

I haven't taken 5-meo-dmt for over a year, perhaps two years. Over the last week a got a sense it's time. Mind, body and spirit felt aligned toward it. I didn't even know if my stash in the refrigerator was even good anymore. So I decided to take 20mg - a dose that used to have a moderate effect on me. In the past, 5-meo would dissolve everything into a state of clarity, a space of emptiness, of omniscience. Yet last night was very different. It was sooo different than ordinary reality. I can't create context with it because there is nothing similar here. It was like an alien world. From a human perspective, the ramp up was ok. There was moderate physical discomfort, probably due to having a full stomach. Yet no mental struggles. Yet in terms of awareness the deepest part was mostly a black out. There was very little cognitive awareness. It wasn't until the come down that awareness began to return. There was awareness of so much, so unique. It felt like too much expansiveness, uniqueness. Thought arose that the mind cannot handle this much and the mind-body began to get anxious that it couldn't be handled. New awareness that there is a "me" and a "normal" mindspace somewhere. That "me" desired to return to it - yet the mind-body was unable to. There was a space in which psychosis entered and anything could have happened. The anxiety increased and I was very close to spiraling downward into an insane panic zone. One thing that got me grounded, was an arising awareness that these are temporary effects that will wear off. Before this time, there was no sense of time. Yet now there was awareness that I was under the influence of a chemical which will wear off. Or, we could say that mental imagery / story was created. I looked at my watch: it was 9:23pm. Thoughts arose that this is 5-meo and the effects will lessen rapidly - perhaps in 10min, so hold on. It's amazing how much this helped the mind-body to settle down. There was a desire to do something normal to get grounded - like yoga. Yet I jut couldn't get into a semi-comfortable space. Once there was a sense of being somewhat together, there was a desire to go outside for a walk. Then, I knew I was returning ok and there were thoughts like "Oh, my god. Wow! Oh, my god". Everything in this normal reality was seen differently. It seemed so odd that I live immersed in this reality and interact with it - as if that's all there is. . . There was a sense of gratitude that I was able to explore so far in consciousness. There was a sense of knowing that I ventured to a place very very few minds have. There is a sense of grounded confidence when I speak to others of mind and forms of reality - it's not theory. There is a sense of knowing that comes with direct experience. From a personal perspective, most of the trip was in a blackout zone. And, most of the space with presence of mind was uncomfortable. Yet there was also something so fascinating and curious to an explorer of consciousness. Tonight, I do it again at half the dose. I'm curious if half the dose will give me access to last nights "realm" yet also allow presence of mind and a settled mind-body.

Of course, all is speculation using logic, but as you are now experiencing an human, Having a transitory human experience, with a beginning and an end, it is most likely that other experiences exist, and if others exist, it is most likely that you are immersed in an evolutionary process. If so and you are currently a guy who has unraveled the human enigma and has freed his mind, realizing the absolute and expanded his consciousness (I don't know if this is your case), it could be said that you are at the door of a new evolutionary challenge. . A tap-dancing alien rat? I don't know.