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@Davino Well IMO this hyper mind is just a hyped mind, yes pretty different but there's little practical value of a hyper mind. Realistically nobody here or in a group is going to have alien minds in our lifetime, maybe neural link but nothing that is mass psychedelic, which is fine and good because I don't want to get into a car accident just because I suddenly have alien mind.

I love these topics as they expand awareness about what alien intelligence would be; growing people's awareness from a simple humanoid alien concept that looks like us with blue, green, or grey skin; through to intelligence so 'alien' to ours that we can't perceive it effectively anyway, only in shards or metaphorical echoes. I see metaphors everywhere if I choose to look at them. My cluttered desk is a metaphor for distractions; my leftover musical equipment, a metaphor for failed creative pursuits; my plain walls are a metaphor for boredom; the 15 tabs on my browser are a metaphor for split attention; and the noise of birds through a shuttered window is a metaphor for things I love to hear but shut out. All of this is happening at the same moment in my reality as I type this. Is that what the hypermind is like? where you perceive 20 different strands of interconnected communication you are arranging for your reality at the same time?

Leo I am so hyped about this alien mind course and am preparing for it already spiritually and mentally. Can you give a time window already? This alien mind sounds like an autistic mind on ecstasy.

A Wealth of Experiences After watching Leo's video on When the Left Goes too Far, I caught myself contemplating about the part where he talks about how it's a privilege to be left leaning because of the life experiences you've had and that you have enough material comforts to not be focused on brute survival, which is why you can focus on higher ideals like equality, gay rights, freedom of speech, mental health etc. And while I, as a child of immigrants who has parents who lived through much harsher life circumstances, I am very much aware of the later as I have to manage my ideals and sense of authenticity and autonomy with that of my stage blue/orange parents who have had very different life experiences, values, and opinions due to their upbringing and survival circumstances. I've had to learn, understand, and balance a lot of these types things and see how their upbrining contributes to their world views, and how they're not just simply crazy or dumb. However, while I'm aware of my privelege in survival as well as how being born in an upper middle class family in a major U.S. city plays a role in my experiences, I wanted to explore the wealth I have, not only from privilege, but from my life experiences. I have thought about this in the past prior to me thinking about it in this context. There have been many times over the past few months where I have really taken a moment to appreciate all of the places I've been and what I did there. My parents have screwed up a lot in my upbringing, but one thing they really got right was the emphasis they put on education, travel, and learning how to assimilate into different communities (side note: When I talk about assimilation, I'm not just talking about assimillating into White culture as a lot of children of immigrants feel pressure to in the U.S. Assimilation also means learning to adjust to things I encountered abroad with my family as well as the different communities I have encountered over the years). Visited 27/50 of the U.S. states Went to the major cities in Texas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Galveston and you know damn well that I won’t forget the Alamo lol) Went to Vegas Visiting various national parks like Yosemite, Mt. Rushmore, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Devils Tower Visited the Christmas towns in Massachusetts, Vermont, and Maine and saw the Green Mountains (drove throughout Vermont) Went to California, saw LA, San Francisco, and drove on highway 1 Visited major cities such as NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, DC, Baltimore NYC: saw the empire state building, statue of liberty, mainly stayed in Queens and visited relatives there, visited a few universities I was considering, central park Boston: visited universities, the Kennedy presidential library, went to the Boston harbor and saw a little reenactment of the Boston Tea Party, enjoyed the public transportation system. Saw Gettysburg, various things in Philly DC: went to the White House, Congress, Smithsonian, National Mall, the Smithsonian saw cherry blossom season Baltimore: mainly went there for the Bengali cultural conference and also saw the harbor area and has some good seafood Went to the islands in Hawaii. Saw the volcanos and the beaches Went to Disney world as a kid Visited the forests of Arkansas and explored the caves (and saw too many confederate flags lol) Have gone to New Orleans a couple times, tried the food, and saw the French Quarters. Saw various places that preserved Native American History in New Mexico, Arizona and Oklahoma Went to Roswell New Mexico and saw the Area 51 alien museum and where they tested the atomic bombs Went skiing a couple times in New Mexico. India: Going to Bihar, staying in an ashram for 3 days, doing religious rituals with my parents for my grandparents, and seeing people keep hard copies of genealogical data Going to Kolkata every other year growing up + saw the Victoria Memorial, the Howrah Bridge, downtown Kolkata, and the Ganges River Saw the Taj Mahal, Agra Fort, the entirety of Jaipur, Jantar Manter, and Delhi UAE: Visiting Dubai, the Burj Khalifa, went to the Dubai Mall, went to the beaches and the palm islands Bangladesh: Went to Sylhet, Dhaka, my ancestral home in Mymensingh, visited my dad’s friends and relatives Went to Costa Rica, and saw the rainforests + did a tour of San Juan Europe: Went to the UK: studied Indian history there, stayed in Oxford and London, saw the British Museum, Tower of London, London Eye, Brick Lane, the William Morris House, the Roman baths, the birthplace of Winston Churchill, Windsor Castle, and Parliament Went to France: Saw the Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame Cathedral, Versailles, and Remy the rat along with his whole family in the Paris bus stop. I also went to the beach and spent some time in Bordeaux. Went to Amsterdam: went on a cycling tour, went to a boat tour, the Ann Frank House, and out door market, and a place that was mainly populated by middle eastern immigrants. I also went to the red light district and went to a sex show which was interesting. Food Experiences: I have a thing where I try the Mexican food wherever I go as an experiement of sorts Tex Mex California Mexican food Mexican food in DC, the UK, and Vermont Mexican food in places like New Mexico and Galveston Salvadorian food Brazilian food: Brazilian Steak House Brazilian / Italian / Portuguese fusion food Costa Rican food Lots of chicken and plantains South East Asian Cuisine Thai: tried various noodle and curry dishes Malaysian: There is a restaurant that I really like in Dallas Vietnamese: I’m kinda basic but I’ve mainly tried Bahn Minh, Pho, and rice paper rolls East Asian Cuisine Chinese Take out Chinese Dim Sum Sushi: ranges from sashimi, various roll styles, sushi in fancy restaurants, and grocery store sushi Hibachi Ramen Kimbap Korean fried cheese Various East Asian snacks: sweet sandwiches, boba, various chip flavors, Korean fried chicken, anything with matcha, various cookies, mochi The French pastries in the bakeries next to the east asian grocery stores South Asian Cuisine A whole lifetime of Bengali home cooked meals and lessons on how to eat elish maach North Indian and South Indian food Various snack and junk foods Street food Indo Chinese food fusion foods including Korean+Indian and Mexican+Indian Mediterranean Food: Went to Italian, Greek, Turkish, North African, Palestinian,and Syrian places Had gyros, shawarmas, baba ganush, fatoush salad, tabouli salad, Greek salads, various lamb preparations Barbeque Texas BBQ North Carolina Kansas Australian German Korean Brazillian French food: croissants, crepes, the pizzas there, beignets, various cheeses and breads Dutch: Pancakes, stroopwaffles, fish, croquettes UK: fish and chips, meat pastries, Shepard’s pie, beans on toast, full English breakfast Maine lobster + Crab cakes + crab and lobster rolls Tried a lot of seafood in general: fish, lobster, crab, shrimp, crawfish, calamari, squid, mussels, oysters, caviar, fish curries, raw fish, fried The people I have met Grew up in an area of Dallas that is predominantly black and Hispanic with a good bit of African immigrants from the Caribbean, West Africa, and East Africa Would frequently go up to North Dallas where there is a lot of south, east, and south east Asian people Got exposed to a lot of Middle Eastern people through my friends and in college Know a few immigrants from Europe (mainly UK and Germany) as well as people who are connected to their Italian, Scottish, Irish, and English heritage Met some Eastern European people growing up and in college Met a few Jewish people as well as a couple Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, and Jains. And of course, I know a good deal of Christians, Muslims, and Hindus who are religious to various degrees and practice various forms of each religion (Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Catholics, Sunni, Shia, Hindus from various castes in the north, south, and east India) Met exactly one person from Central Asia (he was from Kyrgyzstan) Political Ideology Liberals Southern Liberals / Liberals from red states East Coast Liberals Liberals from blue states Conservatives Rich conservatives Poor conservatives Southern conservatives (typically boomers and suburban Karens) Rural conservatives from various parts of the country (ranging from rural Texas, Arkansas, to even rural Maine) The occasional libertarian Leftists Let’s just say that there is a big difference between leftists from red states, mainly from the south and from Appalachia, and the leftists from places like NYC, Boston, LA, and San Francisco, and online leftists Fascists I met a full on Nazi once. I don’t know too many fascists but I do know people who have questionable views that connect to fascist talking points. People who are all over the place due to war trauma People who have survived a genocide, refugees, people who have been influenced by Hindu nationalism, Islamofascism, have a heavy negative bias towards a group like Jewish people or Pakistanis due to the war trauma that they or their family experienced.

The point is that you're making computations on different dimensions of reality/consciousness at the same time. Imagine that you have a software with Da Vinci, Nikola Tesla, Elon Musk Minds + Alien Intelligence... Then you download it into your body/mind system. How do you perceive reality? What's your point of reference to interpret experiences?

Why do you now think it's not realistic compared to the time directly after your first encounter with this transformation into alien mind? It would destroy consensus reality if you could do that in the slightest way.

I don't know why but for some reason I am very skeptical of Frank Yang, I don't wanna be negative on anyone but I think he's actually suffering from a common trap on the path of delusional self grandeur. I mean he's literally claiming to be as enlightened as the buddha despite not actually proving it in anyway. He claims to have transcended all human suffering. I love to seem him prove that. He's only be meditating for what six years. If you spend time around most monks none of them would claim what he claims despite them having 10x the experience he dose. What he dose have though is a following on YouTube so its prob hard to not fall into your own bullshit when everyone is parsing you. The reason why I feel this is because I have also slightly fell victim to this and everyone started to think I was some kind of buddha. Really what was happening is I was just good at convincing people I was enlightened than actually being enlightened. I still think there is something to be said for showing not saying, he just says a lot. If he really is as enlightened as he says he is do like a week long meditation without moving and live stream it. Also Leo is right, Dmt, 5meo ect if taken enough of blows conventional enlightenment out the water. I have reached high levels of awakening ect through meditation but if you take enough psychs it totally blows all that out the water. Humans are very limited in what they can awaken to, an alien or deity on the other hand can see through the very flaws of human spirituality and that's a good thing as there is so much to explore it never ends.

@Leo Gura Back then you wanted to seriously catch on camera how you transform into alien mind to share it with us. But it was not possible. What do you think now about this? Were you in delusion or is it still possible to catch this on camera? I know during my astral travel period 20 years that I seriously considered to catch my astral body on camera. I was not delusional, just concluded this from my experience. Now I still don't know if it's possible or not but probably mostly not. I am skeptical but open about this paranormal stuff.

Mmm, I found interesting correlations between insanity and alien intelligence in some of your blog posts. It comes back to the point of limits and breaking through some limits might feel like insanity.

The Importance Of A Philosophical Position Before one can do any serious philosophy, it is imperative that s/he understands one's own position regarding something as fundamental as how one thinks of the world of one's experience: Is it out there, happening independently from one's mind? Or is it in here 🧠, occurring through the mind's constructive capacity? Note that I'm not simply referring to the world, but to a world of one's own experience, rather. This is because I want to make it clear what it is we're dealing with here, as some of us, if not most, will be quick to argue that they are without a position in this matter because they are not philosophical. However, you do, in fact, have a position, even though you might claim to have no interest in philosophy or down right have nothing to do with it. This is because philosophers aren't doing anything alien to the plain man when doing philosophy, as with botany or geology or any other science, the philosopher only does what the plain man will do rather unsystematically. You have a position regarding the world of experience. Everyone does, for experience is quite a universal thing in the human world, wouldn't you say? No, it is merely a matter of you not having made a distinction of your position, yet. And thus making it distinguishable from, let's say, your neighbor's or any other philosopher's position which might contradict yours should you be given the chance to discuss it. Your position on the world of experience simply refers to how you understand your experience of the world as you experience it. For example, when you're waiting in a line to a food stand, do you regard this as a personal experience or an impersonal experience. You might be quick to think that this is obviously a personal experience because you're the only one who can understand what it is like for you in that particular moment of waiting. But some will understand it to be impersonal simply because s/he is not alone, everybody else who is in line is experiencing the same thing as s/he is – waiting for food. See, no one has asked you how you're understanding the experience of waiting in line, but you are already doing it anyway. And so it can be with your position of your world experience. How you understand your experience of the world is a position of its own philosophical merit. The only difference is that no one had asked you to express it. Without a self-realised position, it may be difficult to do some proper philosophy because you have no referential framework for considering other arguments. Some folks might argue that not having a position is good because it allows you to be open minded and free to develop your own unique philosophical position. Yes, that would be true if a person in fact did not have a position in this matter. However, experience is a universal thing, and chances are that a person would have long developed a position before s/he could even reflect on it. For instance, when it comes to the question of whether there is an external world or not – just the world that we know, the world of experience: I reject the position of an external world, that is, a world external to one's experience. And, I may not be so interested in figuring out which school of thought affirms the existence of such a world as much as I would be interested in learning more from the schools that don't. This can happen, yes. However, because I am interested in doing philosophy in a careful way, I am determined in learning from both positive and negative arguments, having realized my own understanding of the world.

Why do I feel fear when I see/imagine that video on the blog post? Almost like it’s so Alien and weird, it feels like I am not sure if I want to experience something like that

Imagine an alien who closely observes earth and has a life span of 500,000 years. The alien would see empires come and go, influential and uninfluential people live out their lives. There would be drama, love, endings and beginnings. This forum is little bit like that and Leo is the Alien since he is the only constant participant here.

That's very in tune with the mind visualization you posted. And also with my profile picture; although still human and not alien - - - - - Thanks for giving me feedback, I know you didn't have to. I now can continue contemplating on my own

That's what the visual I posted was. - - - - - Here's how I like to picture it to myself: Imagine a cosmic octopus who can make sense of reality by using its 8 tentacles to grab objects and arrange them intelligently into various networks, like working on 8 threads at once. And that entire octopus is alien cogniton. It's just a poetic example, don't take it too literally.

@Leo Gura That's crystal clear. I'll contemplate more on the nature of limits. Is the primary distinction between a human mind and an alien mind a matter of limitations? Could you give me an idea of what it feels like inside a hyper-mind? Is it similar to the sensation of Mind breaking through all limits on 5meo?

I'll say there are levels and there are no levels. The one true enlightenment is to realize you are God and what God is and all the other petty human questions you have. After that there are different states you can interface from. Leo states he discovered alien consciousness, I personally had fun with cartoon consciousness, there are many other types of consciousness too many to name. So there are different levels of truth expression that can become more aware of what is going on (content) but as far God Realization each facet is on the same level describing the Absolute although the intensity can vary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_UFO_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallée Jacques Vallée, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers The Multiverse of Infinite Reality with its endless gardens of good & evil. The eddies, vortexes,waves of the appearances of good&evil of the mighty infinite River of Reality are fascinating. And beyond good & evil and angels & demons, rumour has it that even some very fascinating ET-minds in alien ET-dimensions can be accessed. Just more appearances and eddies of appearance on the Infinite River that one truly is, giving the separate-self even more distraction-opportunities in its nearly endless endeavour of chasing its own tail, but who cares... And until the fascination of this wave-surfing is at least partically relaxed, telling about the bliss of dropping into the River and dissolving in it (instead of being endlessly fascinated by the games of its waves/vortexes/appearances) remains that largely futile task of Selling Water by the River ... just tea

Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahamudra "literally means "great seal" or "great imprint" and refers to the fact that "all phenomena inevitably are stamped by the fact of wisdom and emptiness inseparable". Aka mere empty "imagined" appearances, not existing "out there" but within the Infinite vastness of True Being/Universal Consciousness as mere appearance in this nondual field, not as external objects "out there", aka duality. There is a lot of cultural lingo in Buddhism, especially Tibetan Buddhism, that I didn't understand in the beginning, like why they called it Great Seal. Or Emptiness. Or dependend origination. Or Middle Way. Or No Self. Proto-Mahamudra was imported from India around the 10 century, so the term comes probably from India and is used there also. Daniel Brown once said Mahamudra (for example in his book Pointing out the Great Way) is best for Awakening, and then adding Dzogchen-Methods (the books he translated later, kind of a collection of best of Tibetan Buddhism selected by 33rd Menri Trizin. Mahamudra as explained in Pointing out the Great Way = a nearly mathematical step by step method towards Awakening (Nondual Infinite Field at least temporarily seen by impersonal Awareness itself, but some very subtle processes/filters/lenses still clouding full realization). Before that comes Nonduality (or One Taste), or a separate-self (or ET) merging in Unity with the Infinite Field (of earthly or alien form). Dzogchen = Great Perfection, or the path that completes path to Enlightenment. Or fully ripened Awakened Awareness/Awakening, no clusters of separate-self arisings not transcended/seen through/still clouding Impersonal Infinite Being/Awareness. In my perspective the by far most sophisticated and fastest meditation methods (Mahamudra+Dzogchen) on the planet. Nearly all other methods/systems/techniques/traditions are found within these methods one way or the other, but not the other way round. Selling the Great Seal by the River

Imagine a 100,000 year old alien closely observing planet Earth. The alien would see people come and go. Some were more active in their communities than others. Some felt more important, some had more to say, some benefited their communities, while some didn't. Everyone died no matter what they did. This forum is a little like the story of humanity. People come and go. Argue, love, and chatter away for a while then eventually everyone leaves no matter what. The funny thing is Leo is like the Alien....

Looking foward to the ultra deluxe supreme infinite non dual magical crystal universe adamantium synchronistic fruit juice alien monkey god anti matter potato god sentience video release! (Unironically)

Look I of all people understand burnout. You owe us nothing. You don't even owe us this forum. Screw it. I could just pull a @Nahm and start my own. It's not that, man. Your stuff is special because it is true and it comes from the heart. If you are planning on putting more stuff out then I would he truly interested in where it goes. In truth, I think you began to try and go too far beyond non-duality. Which is why in one of your final videos beyond your concept of God Realization you went back to simply not knowing. You just over did it and thats OK. just be honest with your fans on what you feel about supermind but then transcending into alien consciousness. Put a video out on it don't just refer to the courses.

https://www.actualized.org/insights/alien-consciousness-visualization

I had a dream that there was an alien object involving potential dangerous consequences that was being investigated by people, including me, somewhere slightly underground. There was a detective in my dream I was talking to. I forgot most of my interactions with him but he told me not to do anything with the object until he is aware of the new findings. The object was related to a black pen that could alter the air around it but also worked on a piece of paper. In another dream, I walked past some people, did something to anger a public couple, then entered a red tube-like corridor which separates that "outside" world from a sprawling, complex maze, which requires complex actions, extreme perseverance and books to get to the bottom of. My friend was in the red (or somewhat red but that was the memorable color) two-way hallway leading to it and sounded worried. ChatGPT interprets the things about the maze as me thinking I will need knowledge, skills, perseverance and effort in my life.

When you open your third eye, to get a glimpse of reality, it can feel like this. For the logically minded, imagine if you could see radio waves, in a city you'd be in a lightning storm or ocean. The visual spectrum is very small, the third eye allows a certain amount more to be seen. greymen, black voids, and spheres of light as examples. Yes this is all in your mind, but so is the apple, the chair you're sitting on, or this conversation. For me, this is where the grey alien subject comes from, or the spheres of light people say they see. People who say they are seeing demons are either experiencing psychosis, having another spiritual experience, or have their third eye open. Learning to close off these spiritual centers to give themselves a break is sometimes all they need.

Skipping "stages" is entirely possible, but not through drugs, rather it's through intense adversity. Infact the whole spiral dynamics is more of a map. In the territory, you can do a lot more than just follow the map. And the territory is nothing like the map. You can heavily alter the territory if you want. Map is pseudo. The territory is different for each and every person. The spiral dynamics is effective only on people who were subject to the societal conditionings of modern society and grew up in an "average" environment. If the person grew up on another planet with another species, spiral dynamics will not be too relevant on him. Also, when you're born yellow, it doesn't mean you've missed the previous stages. It just means that's where your territory begins. And in our alien planet, if you're always pushed to go coral because they "are" coral. You might just evolve. It's based on how much relevant those stages are to you. On earth, our "value compass 🧭" is constantly influenced by the Orange or whatever the average stage is. This is headache for those who are above that stage. Also remember, stage yellow have the necessary Orange in it, and the wisdom to decide whether to keep it or not. It's integrated. There's nothing like you missed the lessons. Either you are yellow or you're not. And it's not possible to say "such and such" is the end goal for a person. These stages are ultimately irrelevant. Reminds me of the aghoris, and the way they live. One could say their development is lopsided. But what right does anyone have to say that. They don't want the same things as the creators of Spiral Dynamics. Now the map has become the obstacle. The spiral dynamics is by no means a true map for one's choices. It's more of a map for the average population, who values the same things as the creators of Spiral Dynamics.