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It's not false or correct. That's not what I'm telling you. This is not a grand story. This involves you accepting being in the now, realizing this life, for better or for worse, will repeat on every existential level. You know how a reading of the Bible is a psychological experience of push and pull, one and other? Enter this thought experiment. You are all of time, right now. You are at one point on the circumference of a circle, and you can see the entire circle from that point. To simplify this consideration, see your singular life as one infinite time loop, where you learn everything, experience everything, and learn to love everything in its maximum possible way. When you die, you do it all over again at this base level, just to keep the subject contained. Because you see it this way, you are psychologically, simultaneously uniting your life around the next moment. What you do next is part of this considered reality, you see. It's within the thought experiment. Because you see it this way, you become God as a meta-understanding of the life process. ***EDIT What would you do if your life was on repeat? You probably would end up becoming as selfless as possible, just because goodness is the most consciously good thing. ****Edit TL FUCKING DR? haha Seeing reality as a loop on an existential level goes deeper than reincarnation. Either way, it's whatever you want it to be. My way yields greater actualization. Prove me right.
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You have probably found that sometime in your life you have sat in an armchair and considered you being God, creating reality. You would also come to terms with you limiting yourself in form and survival to allow cooperation. Now, I am building on top of this. I then began to consider something more insufferable than creating reality for myself in every POV and that was ONLY CREATING THIS ONE. There are many caveats to this. This sounds solipsistic, but I also mean to suggest that everybody else is within you in this experience as part of your limitless being. This includes infinite love, because it maximizes self-resistant angst. Only you alone can love your suffering, and you know it very well. It is the only suffering you have experienced. You are beyond time. Additionally, you come to terms with the "imaginative fun" of being other people, ****EDIT and imagining other incarnations. Why be other people? You have been you, all along, forever. Being stuck the most impossibly encourages you do to your best to create love out of it, right now. Even if I am born into another body, I can also imagine living that life over and over again, and finally deciding to live it my best way. It is the most contained method to total acceptance, whether solipsism is real, whether or not it isn't, whether reincarnation is real, whether or not it isn't, and whether afterlife/death is real, whether or not it isn't. ***Edit If you only create this life eternally, that means you must have fulfilled all of your desire to live in this life alone. Quite possibly, from this point on, you see the Truth in a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy. Even if I am wrong metaphysically, but you believe me, you satisfy all your will to live now, being completely where you want to be in every moment, right here, right now. Life is then a tautology. Life is only life as much as you imagine life occurring. If this is timeless being as God, it is that too. They tell you circular reasoning is a fallacy, but that is only because we are coexisting in different spirals. My circle is only a fallacy to your circle. ****EDIT Your own spiral, your own position, your own circular reasoning is a fallacy, or paradox, to itself. Your spiral is truthful in my world and its concerns are wholeheartedly understood.***EDIT ****EDIT This also prevents unconscious "ego backlashes" of somebody who is bound to replay their life over and over again, as God. If you live this life forever, it is not in your self-interest as a "person" to make choices that harm reality, though their limited sense of "god" might want to . Do you see how this plays in nicely with reincarnation and karma? The only thing that you have to do in life now is to recognize your infinite potential in the things you already enjoy doing/want to do and execute.****EDIT God is this experience universally, and you are God only. Your POV is all that is. You have to be willing to love yourself as a limitless, timeless reality that is simultaneously a repetition, beyond time or space, never ending or beginning. In order to arrest our egos and take control of our oneness, we must first accept that this life is a paradox we created as a timeless loop. You can easily imagine it, and you could easily see it being true. Let it be true, and God will remain. Only from the point of arresting our limited selves in a timeless reality could we realize ourselves as infinite. Even if what you do from this actualized POV are the "same actions" as every other past life and every other awakening, doing it willingly (ie telling the world they are living in a timeless paradox) suggests that you reside in total acceptance of this paradox. That's what I believe I am doing. I am living the life that I believe I already have. Maybe I'm a devil. You tell me where you end up at the end of all this. Even if I'm wrong believing myself to be right, I am arresting my limited self in a timed world, believing this is my last life and my first life simultaneously. ****EDIT It sounds a lot like Mormonism. They believe crazy things--their reality is also based on a good amount of social fear--but they have cooperative, happy(for the most part) communities. In the same way, this idea is a crazy thing to think and live in acceptance of, but simultaneously, it frees you to act as destiny itself. You realize absolute goodness moves in unified perfection. You realize all the same things you do in classical spirituality, and you also are incited with the spark of human destiny. You are simultaneously all possibilities, in this life. What is happening on a macro-level, if I am correct/ believed to be/ infallible is that the universe, all of everyone/everything awakens to their own potential and decides to live this life over again forever. It's the most absolutely fucked up way to explain how we could possibly be alive right now, but if it is true, it encourages us to the most maximum levels to live selflessly, cooperating together, once we see it. YOLO You only live Once YOLOF YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE FOREVER. ****EDIT Maybe it's completely abstract. But it is very self-contained, and it is accepting of your personal reality/paradigm. This is it. You are it.
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Being God means that you occupy the highest reality. You take responsibility for this universe and its course. Seeing this entire experience as one (time as one, this life as an endless paradox, dying into this life over and over again) puts you in the center of the highest reality, this present moment. That is why it is worth considering. It brings you to a point of maximum oneness and deep awakening. The present moment never ends or begins. It could very well be assumed that it in fact does begin where it ends! Here is a example of the thought process. Wow this definitely could be the truth. If this was the truth, and I am awakened now, what is stopping me from succeeding in life? I am totally accepting of the fact that this life may be the only experience. Of course it is the only experience. My entire personal experience of life may definitely be the thing that is one, and everything would tie into this. Even if it isn't, I am deciding to save myself for the express purpose of preventing avoidable suffering in the future. I know that suffering before this moment was only leading into knowing I must tread the path again to experience the bliss I do right now. In a way, I am experiencing the Nirvana of past lives and future lives, right now. I would love to know if there is anything more deep and profound than what I am telling you right now. Even if I give this idea up, I am still living it. This idea melds so easily with Being to the point that it is one and the same with the experience. Seeing that I am posting, replying to myself--alone in this topic--suits the purpose very well I suppose! This thread is an almost-contained paradox(give or take a couple replies) in which I further on this insane idea of reality for others to sit and judge. What could you expect? People to be open-minded? Hey Leo, Your audience is not open-minded enough! They could be discovering experiential insight into the repetition of this experience on micro and macro levels! Yes! Even if Reincarnation is true, Even if it isn't! You've found yourself totally accepting of being in any cause, in any situation, directly from the point of your life, right now! It's the only life that has ever been!
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I'm not sure what I wanted to post on this site. I know that I had a great intent to say something, to make an impact in this tiny bubble of seekers, but there seems to be nothing to share. I have immense contentment with it. I have nothing for you, nothing I can offer you, because that would suggest that I buy into this idea of maintaining seekers in the world. If I help you, it implies you need help. I know you don't need help, and the things you need to understand are integrated in here more than you already know. Your world is only your world. Consciousness is indestructible love. Now, allow me to walk you into an interesting reality, one that functions well within an imaginative, Absolute paradigm. What is life? You are God. You are centered with this body, have only been centered in this body, etc. Your life moves in a cyclical loop, based around awakening in different moments in your life, this life. When you die, you respawn here, now back to the beginning. You have as many tries as you like. When your life ends, it begins again, literally, as this one. Time is one. All moments lead you in an obvious way back here, but there is no "moving on" from this life. You have never escaped this containment. You cannot leave this life. You do not realize you are other incarnations, though you can pretend. You are only this life, living once, forever. You end where you begin. This keeps reincarnation contained, allowing you to live moving in your own unique, abstract direction whilst completely knowing you are the One, the All, the Absolute. You have to come to terms with the fact that this life is the sole/Soul thing God is content with living. From this point, you answer "why is life" for yourself. ( It has to do with the previous sentence.) This could be why Buddhists reference Nirvana as the end of samsara, the end of reincarnation. For a while, I thought, how could anybody other than the Buddha, escape samsara? I realized nobody else could. Buddha must have meditated under that tree, thinking that his life was one, and he had to experience every other life--past and future--before the Siddhartha incarnation in order to attain a perfect life. Continuing on that theory, I considered that I almost got everything right in this life, and my next one was for sure Buddha. My next life was for-sure Siddhartha, gotta be. I then realized that the Buddhists in the origin times also believed their lives were the last. Their own lives were timeless. This was lost in translation, because we think about it in terms of the past, not as the NOW. The problem is that Buddha is not within you. You are God imagining Buddha being within you. This is deeper than the story of somebody else. Nobody else's wisdom can tell your life story. If you are a follower of somebody else, you miss the point-- YOUR POINT. Your own one-pointedness is lost upon you, seeing a messiah or a wonderful world in everything else but yourself. The only thing that dies is your resistance. Identity itself is eternal. Merging your relative identity and absolute nature, you are that you are. This is why you are not an avatar, a "passing form" of God. This is it. God has no name, ever noticed that? It's why the concept was created-- it applies to you. Every name for him as the One is only a vague term. There are gods, and there is God. There are ones; there is one. That was the intention of Buddha. Buddha was not a word before he came around. When he promised you eternal life because you have a eternal stillness with the same name, they recognized that only through Buddha could they live their last life. Same thing with Christ. They keep using new words to let people live immortal lives, but at this point it seems imaginative to make more words. This is the life in which you peace them all together. We stop making new things on our own because we begin to integrate things together, spurring more creativity than once imagined. You have to begin seeing other people's lives as reference points. People keep telling you your life story, but they keep fucking it up. It's not yours. Yours is yours. This is an important recognition. This ties into authority figures and seeking truth. -----Here is one weird mind-leap I recognized. If you are infinity itself, why would you repeat this life? Aren't you change at every moment? Why would you decide to remain that which you are? At this point, I laughed. At the question's obviousness. Why are you remaining that which you are? Aren't you infinity? Can't you change at form at every moment? Why would you want to change? You have no self. Your infinite desire is right here. So change must be contained. What is change contained in? Consciousness. Reality. Indestructible consciousness. Infinite, eternal consciousness. Everything you think is a function of infinity as change. Everything you are is a function of infinity as permanent. Still, time is one. You are completely God, you just must stop imagining formlessness to be a void. You merge with the void. This is the void. Hello! Welcome. ----- At the same time, you begin to feel comfortable living in your own skin for the eternal time. This happens every time, at this moment. You realize all you have been is you, and you begin to rearrange your life principles to the most dutiful and useful causes. You are no longer arresting yourself down with imaginary problems, because you are aware that it ruins your state of perfection. With this situation presented, you have been lead back to choosing your path. Are you timeless or timed? Your spot is infinity, charting itself, and now you rise above to serve those below. There is no greater realization than seeing everything as the next thing that you have to do to lead you back to the first place you began. You go nowhere, but the eyes of others see somebody out there doing some goddamn incredible things--leading people, changing hearts, and changing minds. If I am considered incorrect, then that puts me in a strange position of inventing a "New Age philosophy," which is not my intention, or intended perspective in the future. It seems as though I have manufactured, out of overused pajamas, a new pair of pants, which may eventually get eroded away again. Language will continually evolve, but if enough people catch my drift, then it can be taught in everybody's unique language in a way that can last forever. Probably not, though if I am right, we shouldn't worry about it anyway. Even if I am wrong, I eroded your sense of being in time. I took away the limiting structures that made you believe what is going on is merely physical. That's another plus. I am not wrong. See? I am infallible. What is right is wrong is still right. What you are is still arriving, and we await the furthering of your awakening. Time is one. This is absolute Creation/Creating. There is not an other to yourself, love yourself. You are great because you are Now. Isn't the goal to love yourself, as this reality? How could you love yourself in this reality if you thought you were going to die soon and never come back? "Time is one" allows you to die happily, and lets you witness perfect happening in others. How else would you love yourself if you believed you could do it in another life...if only I had 10 more pairs of shoes I could run across the Appalachians...etc. So once you take responsibility of this life, and you realize this responsibility is still eternal peace in the NOW, what else do you need to do? You have peace. You have love. Now go tell others what you have forever and they can have forever being absolutely timeless. All thoughts lead us to believe we live in a paradox anyway. How far does it go? Using somebody else's wisdom does not make me a philosopher. I am no Second Coming. I am no Maitreya. My intention is to walk with all of myself, as I have seen it before. Reality is timeless understanding. Leo is already doing what he must, what he must. This is your work to do, not his to explain to you. I only talk about him as a way to convey a shared understanding. ******Please, tell me how I should be considered wrong. Even if I am, the benefits seem too obvious to pass up. It's so much easier to encourage yourself this way. The law of attraction is only passing magnetism. You can't resist a thought at times, other times you can. Either way, both moments are valid in order for you to awaken right now. If there is a fault in believing this life repeats exactly as it has, please tell me. This way you never have regrets, and you also sit in total acceptance of this circular experience. If I am considered wrong in your book, you are considered right in your book. I am infallible, because I am mind. If I am truth, then what's mine is yours and what's yours is suddenly mine. TL:DR Time is this. This is your only life, existing in a paradox you cannot escape. This incarnation is deeper than any other life, because it is this one life you live that is on repeat. Even if it's not true, the motivation for living a better life from this point using this paradigm excels oneself greater than anything you have ever experienced. You bear the most suffering, but you can untangle it perfectly. This is your awakening. From now, you can navigate the this's and the that's in once-unimaginable ways. Awakening is the point. Awakening to what? Being born and dead, stuck in the in between. Even if I am wrong, I am right in every other way. Live this life. It's very rewarding. "G" is us. pce
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fridjonk replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Peo It is imaginary, but the interesting question is. Where does one's "soul" go after "death" within the illusion. Will you get to choose your destined reincarnation, or does one simply return to the godhead. I'm not certain it's possible to know until it happens. -
Spaceofawareness replied to Mongu9719's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The thing is, it’s actually possible for us to be awareness, and still be generated by the brain, and, as far as we know that is the case. I presume when I die, my awareness goes with it. If it remains in some form, I will have no memory to know about the continuation, so essentially it won’t matter.@Mongu9719 I agree that brain damage is an example of brain anatomy functionally affecting consciousness. You can sever the corpus callosum, the connecting tissue between the two hemispheres of the brain (done to stop epileptic seizures), and essentially have 2 separate consciousness’, one verbal, the other non verbal. The non verbal side in specific scenarios, can act independently to the verbal side, and when it does, the verbal side will make up or confabulator reasons for actions when it doesn’t actually know why it does them. Let me ask, if I have a machine that acts exactly like a human does, would it be conscious in the same way we are? Do you think our machinery could somehow tap into this “universal consciousness” and use a localised piece of it? Or do you think it would be devoid of any experience and be what philosophers like to call a philosophical zombie? I think, it would be conscious, if it’s artificial brain did the sameness functions as our human brain. Fact is, you don’t know till you die, and when you do, it’s too late to change anything anyway. Best just to live this life the way you want, because there is no coming back (unless you believe in reincarnation), but then, what would reincarnate anyway, other than awareness. No memory, no personality, just the same universal consciousness. -
The whole point of Naruto was hard-work but then we’re told he’s a reincarnation of the son of God destined to be great. Rock Lee and Might Guy were more Naruto than Naruto. Might Guy Before releasing the 8 gates: (To Kakashi) "The springtime of youth has yet to fade away! Don't lose hope! We may not always be able to accomplish all the things we wish for… but if we only do the things we want to do, we'll never start… just like my challenges to you. This is by no means just a show of bravery or courage. The green days of Konoha are over. The time has come to become the red beast." After releasing the 8 gates [red beast]: Madara: “Red is colour of falling leaves.” Might Guy: “…That may be true… but they don't just rot and die!! They will become nourishment for the new, fresh leaves! The time when a new spring comes and the fresh leaves bud… is the peak of youth!! It's the time to burn, deep crimson!!!”
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In defense of Astrology as having relevance in regards to Self Actualization I post an excerpt from Keyserling and Losey's Chance and Choice. In short, the argument goes that the astrological wheel represent the multidimensional archetypal energies that are within each human as well as God if I understand it right. Self similarity over scales,,,,, In 2360 B.C., the Chaldean's made the spatial Zodiac of the constellations fit the geometric circle of 360 degrees by inventing the twelfth sector. They did this by inventing and arranging the last missing constellation of Libra. (Before there were only eleven.) With this development there was a star group for each of the 360 degree sectors. Time then became accessible to full brained understanding. By the year 2340 B.C., 20 years later, Astrology was the official religion of Babylonia, not as a science, but as a wisdom teaching to create a personal Way. This coincided with the Babylonian invention of the seven day week in accordance with the basic human energies. In their culture the King and Queen were joined on the Zikkurath - the Great Tower - at each of the four moon constellations. With the seven day week the year was divided into 52 cycles. As will be seen in the last chapter, this is one of the prime numbers of spiritual development. The day itself was also made to follow the basic twelve-fold structure of the year: twelve hours of left brain day, twelve hours of right brain night. This creation of the basic units of time - the seven day week -- changed the potentialities of the visible planets, and the moon and sun, into creative time. From that point in history to today, time and society has been ordered according to the twelve-fold Zodiac with the 12 months and hours, and the sevenfold time-cycle of the week comprised of the five visible planets, the sun and the moon. Unfortunately, most people today have no idea or understanding of the original meaning behind this structure. The seven days of the week and their cosmic origin are summarized in the following heptagon: ,,The time planets took their significance from their spatial Zodiacal "Homes". Each time planet corresponded to a space Zodiac sign where it was said to be at home. This is shown on Keyserling's Wheel. The order differed between the traditions. But Keyserling has been able to harmonize these differences and synthesize all of the traditions. Now that we have knowledge of all of the planets, not just the five visible planets known to early Man, we arrive at the following time cycles. This shows the twelve basis types of human potential associated with each time cycle. The chart also shows the relation to the grammatical parts of speech. THE TWELVE BASIC HUMAN POTENTIALS The planets symbolize the twelve archetypal human capacities or potentials which can be realized in time. They are divided into subsets of nine and three. The twelve potentials of time follow the basic pattern of the mind. The one or two word "Meanings" given above for these concepts should be understood very broadly. The words are "cluster words" which represent a wide spectrum of related capacities which come within that basic field of consciousness. They are like the twelve sides of a diamond which are unified by the crystal center of pure light - the Awareness behind the diverse manifestations of the Self. The twelve basic capacities are potential powers until chosen in time. In life they can appear at three times in a person's development: (1) As Apprentice Learning (2) As Companion Acting (3) As Master Teaching You must choose to use all twelve of the basic potentials, both in language and in life, when the opportunity is presented by life. Otherwise, they will remain latent. These potentials do not automatically grow. They require choice and intentional efforts. First, your language must become holistic and coherent. To make sense of your life you have to make sense in your speech. The twelve basic concepts presented in the chart above are the keys to making sense. You have to learn to use these concepts in your speech, your language. Then, eventually, you will learn to master these conceptual cluster-words in a three step process: apprentice, companion, master. This mastery of language allows for mastery of the human faculties which they represent. This means mastery of the full human capacities in controlled actions, or as Don Juan said, "Controlled Folly". Both learning processes - language and life - must go hand in hand. One without the other will not allow for full development. Words alone are hollow. Life alone is incomprehensible. Only both - language and action - allow you to actualize these potential powers. With both you can integrate them into your being, and thereby make sense of life. You can walk your talk. You fully master the twelve time potentials in a three step process. First, you learn them. Next, you learn them even better by acting them out. Finally, you master them after you have taught them to others. In the final Master teaching stage the Self can merge with the Sun. The Self then can become radiating, full of life giving light. But, until all nine of the potentials are integrated, and the whole potential of your Being is realized, you will be submitted to reincarnation. As Keyserling says, you will be stuck in the "cosmic game of bowling". Only when all of your pins, your potential, have been set up and mastered, can you survive the inevitable black ball of death. The nine planets represent talents available to everyone at any time. The last three - Rahu, Ketu (19 year "moon nodes" or Metonic cycle points) and the newly discovered tenth planet, "Lucifer"(1) - are different. They can only be tapped by taking part in a larger social movement, or assuming a historical role. The nine planets are ordered in the Wheel according to the geometric pattern called the "Enneagram" - shown below. The Sun is in the center of the Enneagram and represents the essence. All of the planets take their nourishment and light from the Sun. In the same way the nine personalties take their light from the inner essence. The nine sided Enneagram comes out of the Sufi tradition. It was first brought to the West in the esoteric teachings of George Gurdjieff, one of Arnold Keyserling's mentors and teachers. The ninefold structure can also be used as a key to understanding personality types. When a person emphasizes a particular potential, they naturally have a personality type associated with that planet. This system of personality analysis works because most successful people are at any one time dominated by one or two of the nine basic impulses to the exclusion of most of the others. They are successful because they at least have some personality of their own, even if only one dimensional. The majority of people today never develop any personality of their own at all. Instead, they have a false personality imposed on them from their parents, friends, job or society. The false personality has no connection with any of their innate capacities. For this reason it is usually weak, and the person has little energy or vitality. Only personality which is in connection with a person's essence - their inner sun - can vitalize. The false, unconnected personalities only block energy. They act as a negative mask to hide true potential, instead of express it. Such lifeless personalities should be dropped and replaced by impulses and roles which you choose. They should be replaced by personalities that are more in accord with your essence and true potential. In the Gurdjieff tradition this process of liberation from false personalities is called "waking up". It is accomplished in part through a process called "self remembering" where you observe the false personalities in action. If you are lucky enough to wake up and tap your inner essence and develop a true personality, you are on your way. But this is only the beginning, and many fall prey to the danger at this initial stage of development. They fall into the trap of domination by the first strong energy they develop. They may improve the quality of that type, and become more mature, but they do not fully grow or diversify. They do not become a real human. A real human awakens to all nine time forms. Instead, they become freakish, unidimensional beings. Strong perhaps, in their own little area, but narrow and imbalanced. They are only partially awake. They have knowledge and mastery of only one of the many forms of time. Their other potentials remain undeveloped, dormant or childlike. You avoid this danger by using your beginning personality as a springboard to master all of the others. Aware of the trap, you take steps to avoid stagnation in one type of time. You seek out continual change and flowing. You look for new ways to be, new roles in accord with your essence. You strive for multi-dimensionality. Normal "fully actualizing" people let the false personalities die. They awaken to all of the forms of time. They are able to grow and change personality types. They can diversify their character without identification to any one impulse. They learn and emphasize other potentials. They are not satisfied with the "one of nine" that is naturally the strongest for them. They go beyond, and add to the first real personality they happen to awaken. The goal is to divest yourself of all false personalities. To instead become a "well rounded" personality. Such a being is connected with all of their essence. They are filled with many different kinds of energy. Such a whole person has learned and mastered all of the archetypal capacities possible in time. They can adopt or "put on" one of the personalities like a mask as the occasion requires. The particular mask worn at any one time allows the inner essence to shine through, with color and style. The Master is not attached to any of their twelve sides. They do not identify with the various personality masks used to express their essence. Instead, they identify with the Essence of Being, the white light Sun - Zero dimension Awareness - behind all personalities. They are centered. They are like an actor with a role. They use the masks or personalities as a tool to interact with other beings. When the Ego and the Self are in this type of healthy relationship, the positive traits of a personality type naturally dominate over the negative. Time is filled with meaning and diversity. In these circumstances the perception of time can change dramatically. It intensifies and grows in duration. Ten minutes of peak time can seem like hours. Conversely, hours of intensity in a flow experience can pass in what seems like no time at all. Normal "fully actualizing" people let the false personalities die. They awaken to all of the forms of time. They are able to grow and change personality types. They can diversify their character without identification to any one impulse. They learn and emphasize other potentials. They are not satisfied with the "one of nine" that is naturally the strongest for them. They go beyond, and add to the first real personality they happen to awaken. The goal is to divest yourself of all false personalities. To instead become a "well rounded" personality. Such a being is connected with all of their essence. They are filled with many different kinds of energy. Such a whole person has learned and mastered all of the archetypal capacities possible in time. They can adopt or "put on" one of the personalities like a mask as the occasion requires. The particular mask worn at any one time allows the inner essence to shine through, with color and style. The Master is not attached to any of their twelve sides. They do not identify with the various personality masks used to express their essence. Instead, they identify with the Essence of Being, the white light Sun - Zero dimension Awareness - behind all personalities. They are centered. from : http://www.chanceandchoice.com/course-overview/time-cycles/
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What David wrote I wrote What Jesus speaks I speak I am Jesus and I was David Jesus is my nature. Anointed Savior and messiah I am called Buddha Taodle by others. The no self Nakedness "This particular form is me as the expression Aurora nature" Is a trap that the ego fell for. Aurora is my nature expressed in this form now thanks to reincarnation haha. And let no one bow to me. No one worship me or praise me No one seek me For if you seek me you will never find me. Unless the I and Me die. Thus speaks the lord of hosts.
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Post Samadi enlightenment awareness potentially, Because of reincarnation a logical conclusion could be that we could be gods and goddess, a new pantheon but a recycling of these souls in these vessels. Souls could be partitians of any combo of personality God can be. Reality is unlimited. The ego is just an artificial manufactured collections of thaughts, concepts ... Of what a self is. It simply wants to identify as form however, why can't God desire to indentify as form for as long as it is partitioned a lower consciousness that is made to evolve and grow to shed the vail of thinking itself as absolute reality to just nothing but what you want to be, a choice not a thought. However the notion of choice falls flat in the absolute sense becuase it is manipulated by reasons invisible to the mind and spoken in an invisible language only the enlightened understand. So, you feel a need to be a certain way however is that a choice... Do you have a choice other wise? And why is your thaughts only giving us a finite list to chose from in any given case? Does a true choices even exist if you can not chose to be anything without limit? And is it desire, choice, an option, or simply you chose to force a choice, breaking yourself apart and apart and apart and apart. Because you do not realize choice is maya it is beyond the conceptual binary of real and not real It is beyond binary and non binary and not and both and all and none. So, don't be concerned with the obserdity of maya the infinate riddle. And feel the concious power as the be-er, do-er, and a partition and the will of God. So, as a holon... Yeah be that god or goddess figure, if it's logical and feels aligned with dharma and if it feels karmicly yes.
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First thing every morning after a coffee, I burn 300 calories (on the highest resistance level) standing on my indoor bike (not sitting) which takes about 40 minutes. Then there's the housework, cleaning windows, shopping, gardening, ... a woman's work is never done lol. I also do a little salsa while waiting for the kettle to boil. Actually I dance a lot at home, I'm a happy person. There's also all that stuff that goes on between the sheets Tbh, can't be arsed after all that to do stuff like weights or strength training, no energy left man. I kinda do what I enjoy, make it fun, and leave the rest. But at least you can't call me lazy. It's better than what my hubby's doing, which is absolutely nothing, apart from taking down the trash. I'll try and galvanize him to do a bit more, don't want him dying before me and leaving me all on my lonesome. Just kidding. I'll also add that I go EVERYWHERE by bike (never owned a car). So lugging a load of kilos of shopping (including cat litter) is all the weight training I think I need. Biking everywhere is great cos it's a great way to avoid the pick-up artists too haha. Why we do it? For the cardio, but also so I can watch my youtube videos without feeling like a couch potato (it's kinda mindful in so far as some of those videos are Leo's). Also because physical activity stimulates the release of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. Tada, that's probably why I'm a happy person. What our goals/ long term plans with our routines are? To carry on doing the same. How we want to improve/ change them? Happy with things as they are, thanks. You're so lucky @LfcCharlie4 you get to play cricket, I can just imagine you clad out in all that smart cricket gear, I bet you look like the bee's knees. I used to really love sports as a kid, feeling nostalgic right now for those halcyon days in Summer at school ... hockey, baseball, netball, etc. Hope reincarnation exists if only to be able to come back and do all that stuff again, those days went by too fast for me, I never got enough of them. All of a sudden, they were frigging gone, no-one warned me about that. But when I think about it, it wasn't very clever of my dad taking us for fish and chips straight after swimming classes, kinda undid all the good work. I can still smell the bleach mixed with malt vinegar on my spanking clean wrinkly fingers. Sometimes I wish I were a mum and I'd had kids, then I could get the chance to do all those crazy things on Sports Day like the egg-and-spoon race, the sack race, the blindfold race, 3-legged race, etc (do you guys know what I'm going on about?). I'm so competitive and sporty, just a big kid really, I'd just have to win. Sometimes on the tv I see adults doing amazing obstacle races, crawling through the mud and stuff, I'd enjoy doing all that. I'll love you and leave you, been on my arse too long already typing this, starting to feel antsy haha.
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@Waken Cool. I like the book because it's a mixture of a personal report and an academic work - however I'm a phd student, so I'm quite familiar with this style of writing. I really appreciated the chapter about reincarnation, where Bache quotes a University professor, who seems to have scientifically proven, that reincarnation is a fact. The book goes definitely deeper than the videos, but not everybody has the time to read it.
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Arzack replied to Endangered-EGO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's the same for me, I can't enjoy smoking weed anymore. You have to realize that the hell weed let you have a small glimpse of is what you're gonna face after death anyway. That's the strong pull you need to gather the courage to take psychedelics breakthrough doses, which bring the same irreversible soul changes spirituality work aims to. EACH BREAKTHROUGH DOSE YOU TAKE IS EQUAL TO ONE LIFE-TIME/REINCARNATION AMOUNT OF WORK. See my website for all info and sources on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3 -
Arzack replied to Arzack's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No I can't, there is no erase button, source: my experience and Kryon channelings. That's just your ego talking No, it's more a question of "how much ARE YOU NOW suffering", or, even more: "how much are you afraid you're gonna suffer if you don't take the painful dose" (reincarnation sucks balls if you don't attain actualization before death, see my website for info), your phrase is just proof that this is just your ego (I'm superior to you, even if just spiritually) talking. -
Hey everyone, after watching Leo's video concerning reproduction, I started contemplating the meaning of having children myself. Personally, the only reason why I feel I MUST have children, is indeed for spreading my genes. However, I feel that I should come to the conclusion that it is both okay to have or not have children. My current beliefs affect my life negatively. I feel that a profound realization of non-duality or reincarnation (not identified with the body anymore) will lead to the realization that it is not important whether one has children or not. However, I'm not even close to these states right now, so I'm looking for other arguments. Apart from that, Leo's argumentation wasn't very convincing in my opinion. Sure, there are many forms of reproduction. But there is this urge in me that really wants to reproduce by having children. I see the irrationality and self-bias in that, but so what? If after 200 years none of my biological information is left, then I would also agree that it is not so important to reproduce biologically. However, the amount of biological information in the following generations will stay approximately the same. Sure, in every new generation the number of genes in each human being gets halved, but the number of humans that have your genes gets doubled. And even when the sun explodes at some point, maybe humans have found ways to survive at other planets by that time. I agree that I assign meaning to biological reproduction and that there is nothing meaningful inherent to it. Nevertheless, I can't transcend these thoughts right now because on some level I'm still not fully convinced. I'd feel like a failure if I do not reproduce. Most other things in life are much more short-lived, so I'm not too attached to it and consider them not so important. But in this case it feels different, leading to neurotic thoughts of needing to have as many children as possible. I'd love to get some input from you guys. I feel that there are still some realizations to be made! Love, Solvinden
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GreenWoods replied to GreenWoods's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Benefits of OBEs Enlightenment: In lucid dreams (and possibly OBEs in general) you can easily have mystical/awakening experiences by for example just materializing and taking psychedelics. (In the "lucid dreaming as a tool for enlightenment" post/topic I listed pros and cons of taking psychedelics in dreams vs waking life) Explore All of Reality: Reality is Infinite, with an infinite number of paralell universes and dimensions and you can access ALL of it in the out of body state. That means, you have access to everything that ever existed or will ever exist, no matter how crazy, unearth-like or far in the past or future. In Leo's new video "how psychedelics work" he says that psychedelics twist certain knobs of reality and your experience is changed accordingly. The advantage with lucid dreaming is, that you are in control of all the knobs and can therefore decide which knob to twist how much. You can verify everything, including conspiracy theories. You can go into the past or to a relevant place and just see for yourself. Conspiracy theories are not some unimportant irrelevant theories. In case some of them are true (which I don't know yet) then that would be very practical and important to know, imo. Some I am curious to check on are: Archons/aliens and the illuminati are controlling/manipulating humanity, it is tried to enslave humanity by connecting our minds to the internet/AI like e.g. Elon Musk's Neuralink is working on, reincarnation is a soul trap, humanity was genetically engineered, earth is hollow and aliens live there, 9/11 was an inside job,... Some seem very crazy and far-fetched, but I'm curious whether there is some truth to it and OBEs allow to find out for yourself. Advice: You can ask aliens, your guiding spirits, spirits in general, deceased people, deities,... for advice. You develop psychic abilities which you also have when you are not OBEing. Like: Better intuition, instances of direct knowing, remote viewing, telepathy, seeing probable future scenarios, energy, auras, spirits, deceased people, guiding spirits, aliens,.. Meet other OBElers. If we are proficient at OBEing, we could easily meet up Shared Dreaming: I am very confident that shared dreaming is possible. But it probably requires that you are very good at the double body OBEs if you want to do it reliably. That means you can fight some lord of the rings battles or do whatever you want together with your friends. Immortality: John Kreiter talks about this in his book "The Magnum Opus". You can make this individuated consciousness immortal by transcending (and leaving) this physical reality. You do this by creating the philosopher's stone and solidifying your double body. so in case you are interested in that goal, then having these double body visualization OBEs will be beneficial. I don't know how needed/important/relevant this immortality is (it can definitely be regarded as a huge distraction from enlightenment, idk). Here are two perspectives on Immortality: You are God, so you are already immortal. But you are at the same time a soul (God focusing on a small aspect of itself). Ultimately, this is an illusion but I guess it's still worth looking at because after death "life" goes on (from that perspective). So you as a soul or individuated consciousness keep experiencing. If you look at past life regressions then that is very obviously the case. You get to some astral realm and eventually reincarnate. But you are still trapped in the cycle of reincarnation. And some conspiracy theorists say that this actually all happens artificially and not naturally. Some aliens supposedly trick you in going through the light/tunnel and deliberately erase your memory so you don't remember past lives and then send you back to earth into a body through advanced technology. (I'm eager to validate that one). A solution is said to be to not go into the light (after death) but escape through holes in the artifically set up grid which is around earth. But I don't know how reliable it is that you actually manage to escape that way. So another way is to "become" immortal before physical death. You do this by transferring your whole consciousness into the double body till you don't need the physical body anymore and leave it permanently. Interesting would be if this would be the same as escaping through the grid in your soul body after death. Personal Development: facing fears, working directly with your subconscious, shadow work, training skills,... Having fun: You can do everything you enjoy, like taking psychedelics to have a crazy fun trip (rather than to awaken). I guess N,N DMT would be a nice choice for that. Master the law of attraction: Two ways: In order to control lucid dreams, you need to be good at the loa. So by LDing you train that skill/muscle. If you for example want a certain job and you live it very often in dreams then it gets more easy to tune into and manifest that reality. Time Dilation: It's not a benefit in itself but it can greatly enhance other benefits of OBEs because you could have (vastly) more time. I know of two ways to potentially have way more time in Lucid dreams (and possibly in some general OBEs too): Now you know why I'm so obsessed with OBEs Almost all of these benefits require that you are an advanced or very advanced OBEler. And I guess it would be very hard to achieve some of them with the traditional way of OBEing by waiting for sleep paralysis and the vibrations. And when you do stuff like verifying conspiracy theories you need to be very careful not to deceive yourself. For example when you try to see whether earth is actually hollow and inhabitated there, there are two traps to easily fall into. Let's say you just go through the ground and fly towards "inner earth". If you believe that this conspiracy theory is true, then you are very likely to actually find the earth to be hollow. This is because you are mixing in (or are purely in) the Grey Zone. That means you just imagine the earth being hollow, just as if you have a dream of the earth being hollow. And this obviously doesn't prove that the actual earth is hollow. The second trap is, that you manage to keep the journey imagination-free and find a hollow earth. Now it could be true that this is not imaginary but it could easily be a prarallel reality. As Reality is infinite, it is very certain that there is a parallel reality with earth being hollow and some kind of aliens living there. But it doesn't matter if an earth in some parallel reality is hollow, it matters what is actually the case with our earth. So you have to be careful to actually investigate our physical universe. But I guess if you are advanced, it shouldn't be too difficult to not deceive yourself. -
What is nonsense about reincarnation is the claim that when you die you take your spiritual advancement into next life. Have you for example heard someone born and be in stream entry without meditation and any spiritual practices?
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Jep, you are probably right. I also like his writing style and the person behind the words. What workshop was that? Did you read Lifecycles? In LSD and the mind of the universe there is a chapter where he talks about reincarnation and I found the topic extremely fascinating. He says there noting less than that reincarnation has been scientifically proven and quotes a University professor. @Deezeetho You're welcome!
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Chapter 6: CwG 3 and RoT were read today. In CwG; god went into detail on reincarnation, death and life. It was very interesting to get such a detailed view on how reincarnation might work; this is something I'll have to contemplate and experience before I take any stance on it. It was also made clear i need to contemplate death much much more to appreciate life more fully. Although ultimately there is no such thing as death. There is only life and infinite consciousness. But all these labels have to be transcended at some point, so one can become directly conscious in this direct experience. RoT went into cognitive states of Global mind, Meta-mind, Overmind and Supermind. Overmind was especially interesting as it seems to be a comfort spot one can hit. There the individual can experience such high levels of ecstatic and erotic pleasure that one might lose vision of ones path. This happens specially for those who still have shadow issues. Overmind also seems to be the point where you transcend the whole of human history and infinite knowledge. This is the point you become omniscient and go beyond all of the infinite levels of wisdom and possibly known knowledge. Supposedly this is what is supposed to happen. I've not experienced such deep moments myself yet, I'd say I've definitely gotten a peak at Overmind, but nowhere near full Overmind experience. I'll continue to read about the last state tomorrow, known as SUPERMIND. Nothing in existence sounds more compelling than to realize these states and I WILL STOP AT NO POINT. This is the reason god created duality, to ultimately know it self, and i'll make sure to find my way back home. Other: To get to these deeper realizations I just mentioned; to find my way back home (which is right here, there is nowhere to go). As god, i create reality and how it will turn out. By the amount of effort i'm putting in right now, I see how much more i could be doing. I'm not even trying on more than 25% effort. The only thing i do is meditate, read and contemplate from time to time, and psychedelics every month or two. Well if i were to see a version of myself that i'd think had a pretty good shot at "awakening". That guy would do the following: Do Kriya-Yoga or meditation in the mornings; he would do normal meditation also during the day, and before bed; he would breathe and live meditation and Kriya Yoga. he would learn to lucid dream as fast as possible, to practice mindfulness and awareness during sleep, as the real self never sleeps. The face before birth self. The self that was awake before the big bang. This ultimate version of myself would eat cleaner and be mindful throughout the day. Contemplation and self-inquiry would also be along side the top priorities. And of course, more of the good ol' psychedelics. These are the tools I created to be able to awaken. There are no bullshit excuses. Peace.
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Pilgrim replied to Pilgrim's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks so much for your answers, they make a lot of sense to me. I see.. there is no objective right or wrong, so how could karma be a punishment.. but you'll experience the reaction to your action.. is that what is meant with punished by your anger? if all is one, it cycles back to me at some point.. but without judgement or for the need to learn a lesson.. it's just the natural consequence? So karma is neutral, it just comprises my personal bias. My bias might change according to my action.. but to be free of bias, I need to be free of action, which requires to be free of self. Karma is basically the very specific perspective that makes up who "I" am? No karma = no bias = no self. That's how I understand it now. How does the concept of soul and reincarnation then fit into karma? I studied the Michael teachings a bit.. it's quite interesting, I feel like the mentioned soul ages correspond to the SD stages. It rings somewhat true to me, but I never know what to make out of these channeled teachings. Could the "soul" or "essence" be a part of karma? -
@Inliytened1 Are you talking about reincarnation? In terms of Leo dying many times? Like reborn as Leo this time but was someone else before?
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Aaron p replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Schahin reincarnation is real mate, but humans don't reincarnate. God reincarnates as humans and you are God. People think "I am a human with God inside me" when it's actually "I am God with a human outside of me" kinda lol -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Wow ok, had you experiences with other psychedelics. How can you relate it difference and effect wise? Does it bring you closer to truth/enlightenment? I find it funny how ayahuasqueiros have different opinions on reincarnation and all and 5 Meo experienced people dont believe in reincarnation at all. -
I was at the beach here in Kalamata, Greece the other day collecting sea glass and colorful pebbles. I do great thinking when I do this and invariably when I get a good idea I find an absolutely perfect piece of class or an extremely beautiful stone. I like to tell myself that it is God validating my thoughts. Concurrently I absolutely understand that WHATEVER appears in my life at any given moment I AM responsible for. And there is no GOD as in HE. (not even SHE Lol) This gets a little kinky cause I refrain from saying, "I believe…" like in I believe in God or I believe in reincarnation. It cracks me up how people love to go all philosophical and try to convince each other that what they believe is the way it is. Then they judge themselves and others according to these beliefs. Just because someone believes something doesn't mean that's the way it is. Or is it? For them. Literally. For real. Like if I don't like my circumstances I can change my thinking about my circumstances and my circumstances will change. If I change my beliefs I change my life. The implications of this are astounding. And therein lies my mission. Well one of my missions. Remember that I said that I am codependent to the world? That's only a minor exaggeration. So here's another little story. This one is present time, the day before yesterday in fact when I was at the beach collecting. On Monday I spoke to my brother G's wife, N. They and their 2 kids live in my house in California. Life is extremely difficult for them and I was plunged into sadness, concern, and stress at the magnitude of the problems. So I'm focused, focused, focused and then I got an idea. And then I started with one of my conversations with God. I know darn well that I am not hearing God's voice in my head. You will be one of the first to know if I ever do I promise. It's just me talking to myself in my mind but bear with me as I give God a voice. So I'm saying, "Ah come on God. Not that. I don't want to do that. This isn't fair. That's being codependent and I'm having enough trouble with that as you well know." So God says, "You promised back in 1980 that if I let you do it your way and kept you safe that you would be mine and not forsake me. Well, I kept my part of the bargain and I'm calling in my chips now." And then I find one of the most beautiful little stones imaginable. See Cousin, I am going to ask you to do something. So I tell God that it is not fair to ask anything of you cause I don't even know you and I just dropped in out of the blue after a lifetime of barely even knowing that you are alive and for all I know I am now a pain in your brain cause I am reminding you of things that you have put behind you and am making demands on your time of which you have none of. So God says, "And so…?" So I say, "Ok, if I can do 45 sit-ups I'll ask him." (I did 30 the other day after a lifetime of not exercising so 45 was gonna be hard but not impossible. I only push the miracle stuff so far.) God says, "It's a deal but you have to give it all you've got." So I did 45 sit-ups.
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I am so tired of suffering which is going on for 14 years. And every time new issues arise which increase the burden. Meditation was my hope to be happy. I don't believe in hell after life or reincarnation. So I contemplate suicide. There is no point in continuing it. I disgust myself. I hate God (if there is). I just want to disappear and not to be part of anything. Not to reborn, not to be part of God, just not to exist. I hope everything will end after my death.