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I want to describe my interpretation of the mechanics of the Karma system. I believe Karma is definitely similar to an ironic event, it sums up to, do unto others what would be done unto you or as TOOL would say "Do unto others what has been done to you." There's two experiences in reality, birth and death, there's also a belief that reincarnation is real but whether you believe in it or not its really not relevant for consciousness. The persona is the character or role you play in life, your personality or how you act towards others, It's pretty much an act. The persona is illusory to consciousness and makes the mistake of thinking it is actually the persona. I'ts not the ego its just a trickery of the mind, in other words you play different roles through your experience of birth and re-birth. Consciousness is doing this forever, a very repetitious nature, and is quite possible that you may have experience every single persona that ever existed through the eras of time. You are born into the world and what you do to it will have an impact on you and no one else. Bad Karma is simply, I hurt you, and If you hurt others or harm the world (leaving it in a worst shape than you found it). Eventually you will end up playing the role of the person that you hurt and experience a world that you destroyed. You can relate to this, how many times has someone else made you cry? Good Karma can lead to more good karma. You're born into a world that takes time to understand and you have the power to make someone else's life better and when you die, you did all you could to make the world better for future generations. That's my view of a Karmic system, take from the world put back into it and improve it for your future self.

Would be nice to get @Leo Gura's views on all this? I updated my post, so check if you've missed anything. So basically you're saying.. "I feel this is true, so I know it is"? As a Green kid my views were pretty much identical to yours. I "felt" that reincarnation, souls, karma, etc. must be real. But that's just religion 2.0. These are not things you can believe for or against, that's naiive. They're much more complicated than existing absolutely or not existing absolutely.

I feel like some people are more apt to remember their true nature as God because they've been through many reincarnation cycles before. You may hear people referencing themselves as "starseeds" or "wanderers" or recalling memories from their past lives. A lot of people hear this and just interpret it as egoism but if you ask me the crazy woo woo people are onto something.

@Carl-Richard No, I meant other people posting their spawn count on the forum. They can't just know intuitively if Leo said that the phychic didn't know his own spawn count. It might not actually be a joke but the numbers seem random. I'm assuming that reincarnation and spawn count are the same thing and the quiz that I took about that does not even match these results and I'm not even sure if the quiz has enough range of results to do so. Also, why are we talking about this if Leo is not even sure if this is true? Could this actually be dogma? Do you know for yourself that this is true?

@Inliytened1 Maybe that is the main issue here. This forum is created by one human egoic mind - brilliant mind, to be honest - for others' egoic minds for typical egoic mind activity - under cover of the quest for the ultimate truth - compare itself, judge others, appropriate concepts and ideas about so-called enlightenment or awakening. But I think it's not bad at all. This forum is, by far, the best mirror that reflects our ideological, philosophical, and emotional attachments about how reality should look like, what it should be, and how God should fit into our conceptual set. It also mirrors our most profound existential questions. When we peel off this egoic layer, or at least we are aware of it, what lies underneath has a tremendous cognitive value. When Einstein told Bohr that God did not play dice, Bohr consciously replied to him: do not tell God what to play. Here we can clash our different concepts about our experiences, which can reach the most distant alien realms that is hard for human to imagine. Nobody is less or more enlightened, or I don't consider myself or anybody here to judge this stuff - on what basis? From my experience, I know that surrendering one's ego is not an easy and short process. It keeps fighting back, you all know that. I would say it takes many lifetimes, you disagree with the idea of reincarnation, and here we go - ego is safe, and that is its purpose, isn't it?

I just watched your video about God Realization a while ago. Indeed, I have not had such an awakening, to see how I am creating reality right now, my memory, my psyche etc. whenever I have done 5 meo and it has sent me to infinity, it has been a moment. my human attachment is still strong, although every day less, very quickly it grabs me. but if I have realized many times the infinity and I have become completely infinite. that infinity has stayed with me, it has changed my psyche. I don't know things, like I'm forming my hand and stuff, but I don't see that it's crucial to know that either. I think knowing is from the ego. once you have become infinite, you know that one thing is the same as another thing. It doesn't matter if you are a god, if you have created your parents, if there is only one pov or more, if there is reincarnation....all that is ego, the only thing that matters is being able to detach yourself from the human in order to be infinite. knowing things is attachment. it is ego. what is it for? if it is infinity. Maybe to know those things could help to the total freedom, in that case, welcome

Oh wow. Surprised You're saying that. I've recently realized that reincarnation is "real" and I will be going through lives for infinity. But I was second guessing myself and didn't wanna bring this up here because it's still the dream and yadda yadda yadda. I can't see yet how that could be a dream. And how can reincarnation exists only from a certain POV? Isn't there an absolute way in which God functions? So like: reincarnating infinitely or not?

Yes God is infinite reincarnation, you could say. One way to think of God is as an infinitely tall and bushy tree, where each leaf is one conscious creature. But even that is a limited formulation of God.

Reincarnation is simply attachment to forms, some of which may resemble lives.

Reincarnation exists from a certain POV. But you go beyond that POV at the highest levels of consciousness.

And yet there is no end to death and reincarnation.

I don't know why you all resist this concept of reincarnation so much. Are you afraid of something? Of being incarnated to some real shit to verify your claims? I don't consider your God-realization as non-existing. All I'm saying is that this hallucinated or imagined reality is as accurate as it can be. It's a perfect hallucination (I wouldn't expect anything less from God, by the way :). And what keeps you at this stage of the theatre of the universe is your egoic mind. And it's not so easy to drop all your imagined agendas to get out of this game of duality. Once for good. Not for a few minutes, hours, or days.

Reincarnation is just a word and the word is with god, the word is god.

Yeah, I think that too I don’t really know but, reincarnation even if it’s not sequential in terms of this dream is likely as I am here now

Reincarnation doesn’t exist, but it also doesn’t not exist.

@Tudo Does it make the idea of tomorrow not make sense? If it’s all a dream how can anything makes sense? In some ways couldn’t it make reincarnation make perfect sense? If God is all alone and infinitely powerful after is dies it just imagines a new life thus “reincarnating” as something else. I have to admit and will continue to admit I don’t know what happens after death. But, I suspect it’s pretty great.

If everything is god's dream, time really doesn't really exist since god can dream the past, future, and everything else, and I( as god) I'm everything and everyone. All this makes me believe that reincarnation stuff really doesn't make sense.

Fair enough. But it's important not to confuse the effects with the causes. People may have the effects of a soul without souls actually being real or a fundamental part of reality. The collective unconscious could've easily generated the effect of souls just like in the past people prayed to the "sun god" and it actually worked, and the sun god perhaps even literally manifested in the flesh when enough people believed in him. But that's still different from the laws of physics which are harder to change, and so the sun god wasn't "actually" real, just like reincarnation might not be real and only something we create temporarily. Or souls could be real, and be a fundamental part of the fabric of this limited reality like the laws of physics, but still not real when you zoom out to the full extent of God.

Because it has a physical counterpart, unlike some of the alleged potential effects of reincarnation which have absolutely no physical counterpart. Reincarnation memories can be explained without reincarnation. The effects I was talking about cannot, unless you can offer a suitable alternative explanation. Like I said, physical explanations aren't good enough, and reincarnation seems like the best one anyone has ever brought forward. In my initial post I explained how it's not a bad explanation, and not as crazy as it sounds. Souls/reincarnation make so much sense that it could be argued you should try to disprove them before even needing to prove them.

I have no idea how this is relevant. If someone's good at math, their whole family's brains and DNA can be examined and an explanation for why they're good at math can be found. But if someone's obsessed with flying planes from a young age despite nothing in the environment or DNA to cause this, then it may be worth looking into alternate explanations. To answer your question, no I don't think MBTI/Big5/etc. describes one's math abilities, athletic ability, etc. That's just silly. Not sure if you're just trolling at this point. You honestly think a Blue psychologist is gonna come to an accurate conclusion as to why Sadhguru has such an effect on people with just a glance? Or why a blind man might suddenly feel something when in his presence? Changes nothing. Psychic people can in theory have no problem accessing any bit of information that exists. And it is known that such cases are often put there by the LCS to awaken people to the wider reality. How common is the belief in reincarnation/ghosts/aliens/etc.? Extremely common. Why? Because sightings/reports are just about common enough to spread rumours and ideas, but not so common that it breaks the illusion of reality having rules and making sense to conventional science.

The problem is that your suffering isn't necessarily going to be alleviated as you could end up in the hellish realm (based on stories of near death experiences). From a viewpoint of reincarnation, you may pick up where you left behind when you reincarnate and I think religions in general discourage it because then they lose followers or believe you end up in eternal hell.

@LordFall Reincarnation is a fact. There are techniques to verify this for yourself. Yoga Nidra and Kundalini meditation are the ones I do. You must be careful, want, and be ready for postcards from the past. We don't remember previous incarnations for anything. Anyway, even from this life, you will remember about three months, distorted by the narrative of the ego mirror. Then you will discover that what has happened doesn't matter as you are here. The water in the river is always fresh

Reincarnation and parallel realities are fascinating subjects. I hope we come to a point where we can explore this and document it. I have the feeling I've lived my life many times, many things feel familiar.

The ego traverses the the gamut of forms. For example, blade-of-grass consciousness > tree consciousness > fish consciousness > reptile consciousness > human consciousness > superhuman consciousness > trans-human consciousness > God-consciousness. The ego thinks the answer to its own immortality lies in the direction of increasingly complex and convoluted distractions from the truth, which is that it isn't real, and never was. It will keep up this charade until it is entirely dissolved. Right now, you are identifying with your human body. Or perhaps, if you consider yourself "awakened to God consciousness", you are identifying with a different form. All such identification is an egoic effort to survive and to hide. To combat self-entropy, the ego builds ever-more sophisticated puzzle structures around itself. It is all a game of survival. Given a lifeline to prolong itself in a new form, it will grab it with both hands, day after day, "lifetime" after "lifetime". Many romanticise the idea of reincarnation, and think it is something desirable. Reincarnation is simply the ongoing attachment to form(s), which is the cause of all suffering.

hopefully in my next reincarnation I will become such an entity