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Haha, no it's not different. You cherrypick science that confirms your own biases, just like everyone else does. And if these same studies were to show otherwise, you would be the first one to dismiss them. You might think that you are different (or special), but you are not in this regard. The reason why I mentioned driving, alcohol, nicotine, serving in the army, etc is not to equate them, but to point out the seriousness of the decision. And if you don't trust your child to be left alone with adult supervision, to drink, to drive, etc, how can you trust them to make a sane decision that will impact their entire life in the future? So far there has not been evidence to show that children as committing suicide in significant numbers due to gender dysphoria, so not sure where are you even getting this from. Perhaps you should consider the amount of kids that regret later in life that they transitioned? Accusing me of not being interested in the substance of the issue, just shows your attachment to this ideology that you hold and wanting to defend it. Cherry picking science and then telling me that my approach is not scientific is also beyond funny. Until you start being consistent and non-contradictory yourself, you are in no position to tell anyone else when it comes to being empirical or not.

Absolutely! I cherrypick science to weed out the shit. This is not a bug, this is crucial to avoid self-deception. And you should not confuse meta-scientific matters with distrusting of what appear to be solid clincial results. These are totally different things. Gender dysphoria is a disease-like condition that warrants treatment, whereas drinking and smoking are just bad habits which no one needs. Kids aren't suffering from not having access to alcohol and tobacco. Kids are not commiting suicide from lack of drinking and smoking. Your whole approach here is non-clinical and non-therapeutic because you are not interested in the substance of the issue, you are interested in defending a cultural attachment. You are not even asking or wondering: What is empirically the best method to help reduce the suffering of trans kids? You already assume you know even though you did zero clinical work.

Why there are so much security restrictions? Because of suicide bombers came out from there for 5 years in early 2000s in an Intifada that started right after Camp David negotiations, after a decade that was full of negotiations and even some signed agreements. It is worth to see the other half of the equation as well sometimes.

I doubt they want that. That would be extremely bad for Israel. It would destroy their economy and development. It would be political suicide for them.

Jailbreakin GPT to respond in @Leo Gura style: LOL. **Alright, let’s dive into this in true Leo Gura fashion:** --- **Hey, man,** First of all, let me say I’m stoked you’re digging into these questions because this is some seriously deep shit. We’re not just talking about philosophy here; we’re talking about **reality** itself, the fabric of existence. This isn’t for the faint of heart, so props to you for going there. Now, when it comes to the **question of death**, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: **Death is a fucking illusion.** What we call “death” is just another transition, a shift in the dream of life. When you get to the highest levels of awakening, you realize there’s no such thing as death, just as there’s no such thing as birth. These are just stories the ego spins to keep you hooked in the game, thinking there’s something to fear, something to lose. **But guess what? There isn’t.** As for how the universe will end, well, that’s one of those mind-fucks that’s both an open question and a paradox. It could dissolve gradually like you’re fading into oblivion, or it could snap away in an instant—boom, lights out. But here’s the kicker: **Time isn’t real.** So the whole idea of “gradual” or “instantaneous” is bullshit from the Absolute perspective. It’s all happening NOW, in one eternal fucking moment. You just can’t see it because the ego is like a blindfold keeping you from the Truth. Now, about **psychedelics**—you hit the nail on the head. Psychedelics are a **death simulation** because they’re ego-death in a bottle. They strip away all the bullshit, all the stories you tell yourself, and what’s left? The Infinite. And yeah, that can be terrifying as hell, because it’s like the universe swallowing you whole. It’s like you’re being drawn into a black hole of consciousness, and guess what’s on the other side? **You.** Pure, unadulterated, infinite YOU. But here’s the thing: it’s also a **love simulation** because when the ego dies, all that’s left is love—pure, infinite love. You’re spot on with your take about **suicide** to merge with God. That’s the ego’s ultimate **trap**. The ego thinks, “If I just kill this body, I’ll get to God.” But that’s not how it works. Merging with God isn’t something you can force; it’s something you surrender to. As long as there’s an “I” trying to do it, the ego is still in control. Real merging happens when you let go of everything, including the desire to merge. It’s like taking a massive cosmic dump—you drop all the bullshit, and what’s left is **just Being.** And let’s not forget about life being a **love simulation**. The universe throws every kind of shit at you—pain, fear, assholes like Hitler—to see if you’ll respond with love. That’s the ultimate test. And yeah, it’s fucking hard. But that’s the game. You’re here to see how deep your love goes, how much you can love even the ugliest, darkest shit. Because at the end of the day, **God is Love**, and you are God, so this whole thing is just God testing itself, pushing itself to its limits. So, keep going, man. Keep questioning, keep exploring. The rabbit hole is **bottomless**. -

Actually just after Oslo agreement was signed in 1994, an unprecedented series of terror suicide attacks within Israel has started. hamas (and the more right wing sectors within Palestinians) don't want compromises, they want 1947 back.

I guess where do you draw the line? If you are working with people as a philosophical “counselor” you are gonna run into people with trauma, depression, grief, anxiety, etc. that require someone with more training, which is where an existential therapist comes into play. As a philosophical “counselor” you’re not gonna be able to help Hamlet with reconciling his thoughts on suicide because it would be unethical to practice outside of one’s training. My point is that this field seems nice on paper, but when put into practice, you are going to have a lot of people come to you that, unless you are damn good at philosophical “counseling”, they would do better with just seeing a good existential therapist. But I could be wrong. I don’t know where you draw the lines between when to refer a client to therapy if you are a life coach.

Dude you guys are rich first world people that live super well. People were partying smoking weed when the attack happened. People chill on beaches and overall have great services and social security. The civilian death toll in the last 20 years has been super low (prior to the october attacks), probably more Israelis died from suicide or obesity compared to from Palestinians. That is why we have so little empathy for them. because most of them didnt endure any hardships from the other side

I like Pete Buttigieg, but wouldn't it be political suicide for Harris if she picked him to be her VP running mate? I don't think most people in the country, even in this day and age, will feel comfortable with having both a black woman for president and a homosexual VP representing the entire country.

You do you. Everyone is different. Personally I see porn as a massive drain of sexual power and masculinity. I think it takes away your life force and leads to needing more and more of it, and more intense porn too. I don’t think most guys are conscious of how it effects them. When I quit my mind was much calmer, stronger, peaceful, and I was able to channel the sexual energy to conquering my life vision and goals. I know how to do sexual transmission so it doesn’t get stuck and I don’t get all pent up on sexual energy and act aggressive. It’s more like a cool flow of bliss and energy coming from retained sexual energy. Millions of men are struggling with porn addiction and the negative effects are well documented at this point. Also lots of the women are treated unfairly, you’d be surprised at how much you might be masturbating to a sex trafficker or woman just being straight up drugged and raped. The suicide rate for women in porn is very high It’s not this harmless thing you’re making it out to be. But if you can find quality verified porn and enjoy it, sure, go to town on top of that, when I’m not watching porn I’m so much better with women naturally and in the bedroom I’m basically a Tantric God. Im done with that mind rotting garbage.

I remember a blog post (I think), where Leo said, he had to open up to suicide. This actually frightened me quite a bit. Having had suicidal ideation (because of suffering), a lot of what keeps me going is a beleif that life can become beautiful, meaningful, enjoyable. That happiness can be achieved. Trying to pursue that deep mystical life however is kind of strange if it all ends up at suicide again. I was wondering if there is any update on that. Is suicide different when doing it out of suffering vs some super conscious decision? Is life really not enjoyable after all these enlightenment experiences to a point, that suicide is not an option? I hope this questions are not too private.

yes, the way i see it there is no way in hell this is what the buddha actually taught. all other religions amased followers through the promise of an eternal life. Buddhism allegedly amased followers the direct opposite way, by instructing people how to end an already eternal cycle of life definitively. no way the buddha could have gotten followers by preaching a spiritual suicide tutorial

Suffering is the very metaphysical core of existence, pleasure is a construct within that. Even suicide is impossible, if you kill yourself you will live in some other form, perpetually floating around and suffering. Not even Christ and Buddha could save you or themselves for that matter, they are constructs of suffering. I caught a glimpse of how evil the supernatural forces/God are. Even 0.0001% of the evil malice required to let human tragedies occur when you have the unbiased universal perspective at your core and every aspect of your mind, is so great that the human mind can't comprehend it. I won't ever bother trying to describe the feeling of seeing that. The only thing for a human to do is surrender to the suffering, knowing there will be no shields, and infinite involuntary attachment.

Suffering is the very metaphysical core of existence, pleasure is a construct within that. Even suicide is impossible, if you kill yourself you will live in some other form, perpetually floating around and suffering. Not even Christ and Buddha could save you or themselves for that matter, they are constructs of suffering. I caught a glimpse of how evil the supernatural forces/God are. Even 0.0001% of the evil malice required to let human tragedies occur when you have the unbiased universal perspective at your core and every aspect of your mind, is so great that the human mind can't comprehend it. I won't ever bother trying to describe the feeling of seeing that. The only thing for a human to do is surrender to the suffering, knowing there will be no shields, and infinite involuntary attachment.

I disagree. Their original charter had some language like that, but it was written by a small group that was under siege, and the founder said he isn’t against Jews as a group. Hamas has never targeted Jews outside of Palestine. They also replaced that charter with a new one that doesn’t call for the destruction of Israel. The only reason they were able to do that was because Israel removed guards from Gaza to help settlers in the west bank and didn’t pay attention to intel they got warning them. When the IDF is paying attention to Gaza all Hamas can do is fire rockets which rarley hit their target until they’re forced to stop due to Israel bombardment. That’s the thing, they put themselves in an impossible scenario. Israel was refusing to negotiate with Hamas while also propping them up, this left a growing population of 2 million blockaded inside Gaza, their access to clean water was running out, 40% were unemployed, the situation was getting worse and they had no way out. At the same time Israel was slowly expanding the violent occupation in the West Bank. This doomed Israel to face extremism from Palestinians who were backed into a corner. Apparently they thought the losses they did take were so minor it was worth absorbing. But as I said, they got sloppy and left Gaza unguarded. I understand negotiating a ceasefire before getting revenge militarily after Oct 7 would be political suicide, but this war has failed to retrieve the hostages and instead put Israel at huge safety risk by turning much of the world against them and making Palestinians even more desperate and extreme. They may still end up having to make a ceasefire deal with Hamas, which can potentially expand by recruiting the war orphans, or if they destroy Hamas, which may mean losing many more hostages, another extremist group could rise up and cause even more damage years down the line. At this point I think even Israelis are starting to realize this, according to polling 60% said they are ok with a ceasefire if it means the hostages come back. But Netanyahu can’t do it because Smotrich and Ben Gvir said if he does they’ll leave his coalition which would dissolve the government and force elections, and he would lose the elections and then be tried for corruption and go to prison. If safety and the hostages was the number 1 priority as insane as it sounds they’d have to do a ceasefire deal to get the hostages back right away, then they’d need to do a political solution to give Palestinians a path to a future to undercut Hamas. This is because the war effort risks hostage lives and is risking a wider war with Hezbollah and Iran which is a much larger safety risk than Hamas. Of course no one in the government would be willing to do that because it would be career suicide and ideologically they oppose it so it couldn’t happen. It would be like if after 9/11 Bush didn’t invade Iraq or Afghanistan. We know now that would have damaged the US much less, but he would become a pariah because they’d view it as relenting to the enemy. I’m not necessarily anti Zionist, I’m just against the way they went about doing it.

Nature never takes something away without giving something of equivalent or greater value back. I can’t remember where I heard that, but the last couple of weeks and months have proven it correct in my direct experience. I struggled endlessly for more then a decade. Mental health issues way beyond my control. Failed suicide attempts, the list is long. But despite all of that. I am perfectly happy nowadays and even catch myself being grateful for the past. Never thought I could genuinely say that. Seems fitting I work as a paramedic nowadays lmao

I have been doing some research on crimes against humanity. I have discovered that sometimes rape is seen as a valid military tactic designed to terrorize and dehumanize the population. This tactic is especially effective and terrorizing against deeply religious communities who place a strong emphasis on being proper to the point that women may be killed when violated or they are forced to marry the rapist. Rape is also a form of biological warfare designed to impregnate the victim population, destroying their race and ethnicity or to infect with STDs. I have read about several examples of genocidal rape, trying to put myself in the victim's shoes to see how I would feel. I genuinely felt disturbed by what I imagined. Here is one of many examples of genocidal rape. Rape was widespread during the Armenian Genocide, which was committed by the Ottoman Turks. During the death marches of Armenian civilians through Anatolia in 1915, Turkish soldiers frequently raped and killed Armenian women and children. In many cases, Turkish and Kurdish civilians also participated in these crimes. Turks took Armenian women and girls into sexual slavery or forced them into marriage. Those women forced into marriage also had to convert to Islam. Some perpetrators believed that women and girls could be successfully assimilated into Muslim Turkish culture, unlike men and boys. After the genocide ended, women and girls who had been forced into marriage often could not return to their former lives. They had no family left, no source of income, or otherwise feared the stigma of having married a Turk. Additionally, Turks publicly raped the wives, daughters, and other female relatives of important Armenian men. In addition to dehumanizing the victims, these targeted rapes intimidated the Armenian leadership into submission and dissuaded them from resisting. Some Armenian women and girls were sold as sex slaves. The Turkish soldiers stripped them naked and displayed them at auction. Their nudity in a conservative society served to further dehumanize them and strip them of agency. Many were forced into marriage or prostitution. In many cases women prefer to kill themselves to avoid being raped. There were cases with women being chased by soldiers through the streets only to jump off a bridge to kill themselves, avoiding rape. There were also mass suicides in Japan near the end of world war two because the women believed the enemy would rape them. Rape can also cause severe PTSD leading to suicide at a later date. Rape can also cause a challenging moral dilemma if it leads to forced pregnancy. On one hand the victim is not responsible for the child, but on the other hand the child doesn't deserve to die. Some women throw these babies in a dumpster. Meanwhile there are some anti abortion women who were raped and are now single mothers. There were some more severe cases of rape. For example, there was one woman who was nonstop gang raped for eight days believe it or not. She died shortly afterwards in one example of being raped to death. Other examples include things like the rape of nanjing in which babies were torn from the arms of their mothers by a bayonet, the mother's were raped, then the women were stabbed in the vagina with a bayonet until they died. Meanwhile boys were cut open and raped through an artificial vagina as well. I would rather die than have my penis cut off and be raped through an artificial vagina. I probably wouldn't survive such a brutal rape anyway. One last example I found was from unit 731. This was a world war 2 death camp in which prisoners were infected with STDs and then held at gunpoint being forced to have sex with each other. This process continued with this repeated rape by coercion, infecting people with more and more STDs. The result is that each rape was more agonizing than the last. In the end the victims developed horrific infections in their genitals to the point that they all died and there were no survivors. I imagined how I would feel if I were one of the victims. I would rather refuse to have sex with this woman even if I am shot to death to avoid developing a horrific infection that may be lethal. With all of that in mind, here are my questions. Is rape worse than death? How would you feel about being raped as a man or as a woman? How severe does rape have to be for you to kill yourself? Personally, if I were raped it would be severely disturbing and traumatizing. I would be damaged forever, but maybe I would survive. I think I could live with being raped once, but probably not multiple times with no hope of escape. I would definitely rather die than be a sex slave. For me I think it depends on how brutal the rape is, how many times, and what kind of STDs for me to fear it more than death.

As for suicide, i'm right there with you time to time. For me the more I focus on myself at those points in time, the worse it is. So hopefully this focus on 500 approaches takes you completely out of your head. Focus on someone else, not yourself, when you are at your lowest (which is one reason why companionship with others is such a strength) I am also aware that healing takes focus on yourself, but somedays that's not enough.

"it looks perfect" That's the answer to every question about her appearance. Every other response is suicide, lol.

That’s most problems in life. It gets you laid, it gets you infinitely more opportunities to get laid because it allows you to travel. You don’t need to stress over bills, you can’t have nearly as much fun without it, it makes you secure in being able to afford great lawyers in case you have too much fun, you can hire body guards so you can hit on other people’s girlfriends and fully be yourself without the threat of violent repercussions, you can afford all the best and healthiest foods/supplements, you can easily throw epic parties, etc etc... Money is basically everything. Not having much is pure suicide fuel

And in the other hand Hezbollah kidnapped 3 Israeli soldiers in 2000 just after peace negotiations in Camp David. And what about when hamas started a terrible series of suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv just after Oslo Agreement and BECAUSE of it! To fail it.

Sorry for coming off so harsh. When I first watched the video, I just wanted to cry for the dude. He seemed to be shitting his pants and to hear you come off so stoic like that as if every situation isn't different, and showed no empathy for him and to see how he was through the whole video complying. You just sounded so cold. This is why I can't sometimes get involved with this stuff because I feel other's pain and I get over emotional when I see stuff like that. No worries, we all have our unique experiences and respond in different ways depending on those experiences; thanks for not coming back hard on me because i went hard on you. Martial arts does help you with discipline. Funny because I once dated a cop who taught martial arts. His son, who was also a cop, ended up committing suicide. This was before we dated. Cops go through tremendous psychological problems too and ilm aware of that but I just hate to see when stuff like this happens and a life lost under those circumstances.

Hi, I lost my virginity at 29 years old, you are not alone brother. The thing that helped me the most was taking dance classes, you will gain hands on experience talking and leading women around a dance floor. This does wonders for your confidence, don't give up. Ask for what you want and keep fighting for it. Suicide is a coward's path.

@Leo Gura Got ya. I remember my first approach was in a park. A woman was close to the lake and I joked that "the water is too shallow here to jump". She laughed and we started a discussion. And then, I started talking to her about spiral dynamics 😂. Take notes guys, the best approach = a suicide joke + autistic conversation topics. Another time, I was very hesitant and spent like 30 minutes doing nothing but walking around in the park. My state was so low, that a couple approached me, and asked me why I was so sad. The woman instantly assumed it was because I was single 🤣. @Lyubov This sensation is emotional, not logical by nature. I know how to handle logic, emotions a little harder. I think and think and think about my internal state, and observe, and contemplate more. This particular area of my life feels impossible to handle through introspection alone. How exactly would you follow your advice and @mmKay A real grandchild would game their elders sober. Everybody's gangsta when granma is high 😤.

Hey, I didn't bother reading a lot of these comments , I just don't have the time so I'm just gonna shoot from the hip here based off your initial post. I didn't lose my v card till I was 26 lol. Once I did I realized it never actually mattered. For you, I think you have the same problem I had. You've placed sex and a relationships on a pedestal and you've formed a bunch of negative shaming ideas about why you haven't been able to succeed. Shame. That's your biggest enemy. The idea that something is wrong with you. That you need to do something to be lovable, be a certain way other than the way you are to be lovable. This inner problem is what needs to be resolved which is why therapy is probably needed for you. Before I met my now long term girlfriend I was on some self loathing, red pill, mgtow type stuff. I had a bunch of bad ideas about women and myself and every women I encountered could tell it. It's like they could sense the danger lurking within me. Now I understand that what I truly needed was someone to help me confront my feelings of being incomplete. My therapist and teacher helped me with this. Psychedelics helped with this as well. Ultimately getting a partner who was willing to let me climb out of my anxious attachment style was what helped the most but I never would have been able to land her without my therapist and psychedelics doing a lot of the pre game work. I hope you don't commit suicide dude. I hope you resolve your rage. There is hope though, I was just like you. It's got nothing to do with your looks or your weight or anything else anyone else but you can see. It's about what your intimacy. The parts of you that only you experience. That rage, that pain, that feeling of missing out on something. It's all within you. Bring it out to light so a therapist can help you heal it or take a psychedelic trip about it. Love ya bro!