Natasha Tori Maru

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ2KlAVkjkO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== I think he regularly has sex with Kate as part of his protocol. Just a theory

I think it can also be that most people identify with their thoughts and intellect. When we challenge someone's idea, opinion or belief it is often perceived as 'I am wrong, therefor I am bad/useless/whathaveyou' and they feel internalized shame. @Schizophonia is good with this topic

Yep. Big one for so many people. It usually comes down to boundaries. ESPECIALLY WOMEN. 'No' is a complete sentence.

Sorry, but that is not correct. Just because your paragraph is simpler does not make mine incorrect.

Sure, but you didn't extrapolate on the nuance of the topic. So you essentially communicated the OP's question and the dialogue that ensued was not warranting the complexity of answers. But I think it does.

It can be a complex topic. Which is why I think OPs question was very pertinent. There are few topics more loaded than if you propose there is no free will. People literally go mental at the proposition. It has all sorts of implications people do not like. Meaning making can be the devil here. It is complex because its about the relationship between mind, matter and causation. And the reason it is so complex is because every layer of reality you peel back it opens a new contradiction: physics says everything is caused (shit follows laws, particles, your brain too), subjectivity says we choose (we feel like we decide otherwise). But logic cannot reconcile both - if your thoughts are caused, your sense of choosing is an illusion; if they aren't caused, they're random which also isn't 'you choosing' (as a rather shit example). So to me there is a paradox, because determinism robs you of authorship. Indeterminism robs you of coherence. Compatibilism tries to save face by redefining 'freedom' as 'acting according to your motives'. But that sort of dodges the metaphysical question. At least this is to my understanding. So it seems to me it is not just a philosophy problem - its like an ontological fracture. Are we mechanisms, experiencers, both? and every field seems to have a stake in it: neuroscience, physics, ethics, religion, phenomenology...

Probably, surprises. Good or bad. But hopefully good.

In the context of blackpill, I can see why there is a mechanistic crossover as it is simply the brain attempting congruency as a survival method: ie the brain wants to be certain so it knows duration/path/outcome. Which will reduce anxiety/stress. But you can have a cognitive bias completely isolated from anxiety. For example, one can have a cognitive bias in a scientific process and it will not involve anxiety. This was my original point. So there is no disagreement. This is why I raised that the two elements are not the same, and do not have to be linked. But in the context of blackpill the false belief that is caused by the bias will cause internally perceived stress from external pressure, and anxiety as a general samskara relating to the belief as it perpetuates itself. My point was originally raised to highlight that intelligent people often have more powerful cognitive bias as the belief is formed and backed from the raw power of their intellect. Often the thought pattern/critical thinking is correct. But not all data is present. So it is the selective sourcing of data that is the error. And often, the only way to see the bias clearly is to meta analyse thoughts. Which is difficult without a good cognitive behavioural therapist or friend you can be really open with. The only cure is typically extensive experience to accrue more data and accurately observe. I raised this as a way to empower people who may have this bias. Not to disempower them and label such things as anxiety (and incur victim mentality).

@Schizophonia so in your view a cognitive bias is anxiety? I view these things as distinctly seperate.

Not in my experience. You do not have to be anxious to have a habit of thinking with a bias. There is a lot of crossover yes - but it's not a given. Anxiety is an emotional and psychological response to stress, while cognitive biases are systematic errors in thinking that affect how people make decisions and judgments. When the cognitive bias applies to something like dating (being black pilled, as per context) it can cause anxiety but cognitive bias does not inherently do so. It could be yes. They aren't forming a belief based on careful observation & analysis - more reacting in the moment without using intellect to try to solve a problem. Pure non-thinking play and flirting or goofing off to make a woman laugh is probably a good example. In my experience a lot of guys who don't do so well in the dating arena are INCREADIBLY intelligent. But that bias in their thinking is so powerful because the full force of that intelligence is behind their thinking: their black pilled view really is actually correct. Their thinking process is top notch. They have slowly begun to miss key data points in their experience that show the full picture. This typically forms a meaning/belief. It is quite insidious because the thinking and assessment is correct, it is just the bias that makes them see only one data point: IE 'only good looks get girls' by observing their mates dating. But they miss that their mates got girlfriends because they stuck with dating for 18months, whereas the guy in our example gave up within a month. It can be as small as that. Then you end up looking for more data to support your point to confirm is it accurate. Because technically it is. There is just a bit more too it. 2 of my mates were locked into black pill sorta ideology and it took me 4/5 solid conversations to show them how they were operating from a belief, and missing the full truth. And these dudes work at University of Melbourne in the STEM field. They both had these sorts of small subtle loops on their thinking

Honestly 5g is a lot in one go - for me at least. I pissed myself, took off all my clothing, locked myself in the bathroom, and lay face down on the tiles while seeing airplanes emerge from the tiled patterns. I can handle anything around 2g, but 5g? Maybe because I am a chick and sub 50kg weight. I know he has a tattoo for 5meo so it wouldn't be a stretch to surmise he has experience and maybe an idea of tolerance. Interested to hear his report. Anyone know the aims he has with this new protocol?

Not just in relation to this thread - but DAMN @Leo Gura I almost feel you should release the black-pill vid so users can become aware of their own cognitive bias with it. Lots of guys here would probably benefit from it. Even if all it did was show them how their beliefs are being enhanced by their own strong intellect. I find the smarter someone is, the more powerful the cognitive bias. Because they pick the correct data out - but ignore all the other relevant pieces to bring concordance across their psyche (and a more balanced equanimous view of the topic). And their own intelligence works against them to cement that shit in place like a turd that won't flush

The things you listed you want are all desires that won't lead to happiness. Your statement contradicted itself in that you listed temporary ego happiness with inherent suffering, but then said you wanted happiness. It comes across as confused and not well thought out. Almost like your inner world is confused. Just how it appears. And while I think many people do desire happiness, I think most do not know what it is. I perceive you as conflating happiness with pleasure. Even my reply to the OP - if you read it again, it is honest. No lie. OPs reply is also honest. Truth. If you take the time to contemplate, you will see happines being pointed to in the replies. Some people just want peace. Which can become happiness with true embodiment.

Well there's your issue - you do it for your own greatness. Not for other people to see you that way.You'll be locked in ego with a glass ceiling for growth Can't escape the rat wheel with that mindset.