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Guest replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Javfly33 Delightful. Spreading bliss and love like nobody's business, lol. Feeling better now? Well, kindly allow me quote what you wrote earlier: Yeah, that kind of sounds like you are trying to stop the so-called "cycle of reincarnation", wouldn't you say so? Which begs the question: Why do you think that it is necessary to stop something which God has set in motion? Do you think that God is a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's doing, and now it's up to you to clean up the mess he has created? And what the fuck would be the alternative? You do realize that without form there can be no experience of reality, right? (And please, just stick to answering the questions. Your petulant hissy fits are getting tiresome.) -
Guest replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Should I be jealous of someone who seemingly hates is earthly existence so much that he seemingly spends all of his waking hours trying to escape it? That really doesn't sound all too blissful to me. Exactly. So why get lost in conceptual stories about "death" and "empty bliss" and "breaking the cycle of reincarnation" instead of just living in the moment and appreciating the Here and Now as it is? All that there is is THIS. So you either embrace it, or you suffer. I didn't say "just fuck everything", I said "just love everything". Slight difference. -
Javfly33 replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here holy shit dude Look at wikipedia says: " ānanda signifies eternal bliss which accompanies the ending of the rebirth cycle. Those who renounce the fruits of their actions and submit themselves completely to the divine will, arrive at the final termination of the cyclical life process (saṃsāra) to enjoy eternal bliss (ānanda) in perfect union with the godhead. " Literally yesterday i had the same idea. Before reading that wikipedia Page. I had the intuition, reincarnation process ends when consciousness realizes itself as Pure Bliss (its own nature/ purest quality). And until that happen the consciousness keeps reincarnating in bodies in order to be able to consciously Awaken. Im not fantasizing. Are you jealous of me i get to experience true Bliss? You shouldnt, this didnt come free. Ive invested about 500 hours or more in current yoga process which delivers this kind of realizations. And even, this does not come each day. ""What if you realize that everything is already perfect, divine, whole, complete?"" Yes and no. Because as wikipedia says, much probably the work is making those states of being a reality, more than conceptually telling Yourself is all perfect and bliss while not quite true feeling perfect and bliss Cycle of reincarnation Will Keep repeating if not handling this properly. You have been warned! 🫢 There is a difference between concepts and reality. Is very different to conceptually telling Yourself is all bliss vs actually Being That. The difference might be stopping the cycle of reincarnation or not. So, the stakes are high. Your perspective of just fuck everything probably wont cut It. But...you do you. Lets see Who bet most wisely. -
Danioover9000 replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Merkabah Star Yeah she's hardcore anti Trans like it'll take a reincarnation to deal with that level of fear and hatred. Also agree those sexual predators calling themselves trans are the bad apples of that movement, and they shouldn't be used as representative of all trans people. It's super silly these ultra far rights and even Rowling continue this angle. I can relate and empathize with the misgendering, got misidentified as a Jew for having a certain nose in my high school, like come on. -
Inliytened1 replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The question is whether or not karma is carried from a past life into the next. But this carries a lot of assumptions. It first assumes Reincarnation. Reincarnation does exist. But does it exist in the same reality. If God dreams it is a wolf in this reality does that mean it would be a different creature in this same reality? When you are in a night dream there are many rules and things that you follow. You can go through so many trials and tribulations. But when you wake up from the dream all of it is gone. Vanished. Like dust in the wind. -
@Kid A I've given up, I am just waiting to die. The only reason why I won't kill myself is that I believe in Reincarnation and don't want to repeat this life.
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I was unpopular with men and women. A group of boys used to tell me everyday at 15 that "Nobody loves you" it's etched in my memory. The leader of that group was already having sex with multiple women at school and is now married with kids. The girls at school used to say "I would die a virgin", when condoms were handed out during sex education class they laughed at me taking them, since I would never need them. I never found my group of outcast, anyone I asked out would laugh at me. Never got invited anywhere. If a healthy masculinity is so attractive then why do overtly negative, destructive men manage to attract women? How can I develop any self love with such a terrible foundation. I have no positive memories, nothing to fall back on where I can say at this point I was embraced, even cousins and older siblings treated me bad. If you never find your tribe, your self development amounts to nothing. I've had phases of trying to embrace myself and it works until you go home alone again knowing nobody cares about you or will call on your birthday. I am not angry at women anymore but I have given up on trying, the only reason I won't kill myself is because I believe in reincarnation and think I will have to repeat this lifetime if I commit suicide. So I just have to endure this pathetic existence until it's my time.
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This is not advaita vedanta stuff. I mean literally, if you stop giving thought any power, the sensation of individual experience disappears. In other words, apparent individual perception becomes Infinite Nothing. God remains, but God is nothing. Perception is literally Nothing, unless you think this is something. Then illusion of I, others, time, reincarnation, and more shit can pop up, because once you think a certain POV is YOU, You fucked up. Remove absolutely everything until complete destruction of 'I' of any kind. If you just STOP THINKING completely, you do not know anything. This includes the words 'existence', 'time', 'reality', 'life', 'death', etc. If all thoughts are removed everything disappears. Is insane. Not even an 'existence' is left. Existence is a thought of the ego.
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life is short you know..? 10.. 20..30.. 40..50.. 60 years max and bye bye 👋 Right ? Fucking NO. What if death is only something you've been brainwashed with by society..parents ..other people..religion..and even science . You might have witnessed animals dying or people dying..but is that an evidence that YOU will die ? I know this sounds like mad talk that only belongs to the nut wards ..but trust me guys I've done hundreds of hours of contemplating ..and I assure you ..there Is not one single evidence that you are going to die. But ofcourse no amount of me saying this will get it to click in your mind . You must discover it for yourself. And also nobody knows what happens after death (if its even gonna happen) that is of course if we lay aside religious stories and philosophical speculation.. Hands down: Reincarnation.. Nothingness.. Heaven and hell realms etc are nothing but beautiful beliefs. Death itself is a fucking belief.
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Francis777 replied to Edvard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
reality is just an infinite reincarnation of god, because what else is there to do? -
In the case of the op 5meo it could have an extremely positive effect. op, what you need is not something that makes it easy for you to open to infinity, but something that makes it difficult for you. You are not looking for a mystical experience but to break your barriers. An experience is just an experience, it has no great value. Reconfiguring your energy structure has a value that goes beyond what you imagine. Hit with the 5meo hammer again and again, until your fear is pulverized. Your heart will open and you will be free. It's scary, indeed, but at the end it's not so dangerous. The humans have to face our fear really, not playing. People go to wars of do very extreme things in order to follow their path on life. Nothing can be worse than stagnation, we are in a mission, and requires moving forward, evolve, face the fears. Probably there is continuity, reincarnation, evolution. Bravery is required, the other option is death
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sholomar replied to actualizing25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What is enlightenment anyways? Is it just an intense release of oxytocin in the brain? Is there really anything to "reach" since once you hit that state the ego would not exist. What I never hear talked about enough on this forums by Leo is reincarnation, whether we are actually incarnating here to "learn lessons" and "raise our capacity for true love" or "raise our frequency" if you look at personal growth from David Hawkin's scale of consciousness. Surely some here have read Michael Newton's books (Journey of Souls)... is that our reality... where we incarnate here as souls in this reality which is more akin to a virtual reality video game, that we come here because oneness is boring? If so, it's pointless to reach enlightenment because the Source will just create new souls, new realities in which to visit anyways. In fact he says they do in his second book. If we don't have souls and are just animals then there's no point in any of this work... life out your life as your DNA would have you do. I think a lot of us are stuck in analysis paralysis. Me? I enjoy figuring out how everything works. I want a user's manual for everything because what fun is there in being spontaneous? -
Carl-Richard replied to TheSelf's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The outcome is that we can get more clear on what we think spirituality and religion is. By the way, I'm not saying it's useless to distinguish between spirituality and religion. I'm saying the distinction is not based on substantial differences but rather something trivial like history. What you seem to refer to as "spirituality", many academics like to call "New Age religion". And again, to distinguish it from "traditional religion" (e.g. "world religions", "organized religion"), they generally point to historical and cultural developments: New Age is a religious movement originating in the early 70s and is compatible with individualistic and (post)modern values. New Agers tend to value individual expression and pick and choose among different religious traditions for inspiration but are not dedicated to a single tradition. So the core of New Age and traditional religion is the same, only the cultural clothing is different. New Age is of course not necessarily about mysticism ("direct experience"), which explains the general connotation of the word in these circles ("New Agers only care about crystals, spirits, astrology, reincarnation, etc.; essentially just beliefs"). Likewise (and more obviously), traditional religion is not necessarily about mysticism either, which also explains the general connotation of that word in these circles ("religion is about beliefs"). But of course, mysticism does exist both in New Age and traditional religion. To say that New Age and traditional religion are about beliefs is only one part of the picture. Like many people in these circles, you seem to place an equal sign between spirituality and mysticism (direct experience), but at the same time, you couch it in an individualistic and modern cultural frame ("your personal spiritual journey"). Could it be that these cultural values make up the "doctrine" of your religion? Could it be that if you had lived 1000 years in the future and looked back at your current self, you would've called yourself religious, because you would've clearly seen the cultural values as an arbitrary addition to the higher goal of mysticism? I think the same thing would've happened if you had lived as a mystic 1000 years ago. Anyways, if we are to sum up your statements into a coherent whole: you seem to follow a religion with an individualistic and modern cultural frame with an emphasis on mysticism, which roughly adds up to New Age religion. -
Leo Gura replied to Whitney Edwards's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How about when someone's way involves hijacking your community by proclaiming himself to be the reincarnation of Jesus and having sex with all the hotties and taking their money? -
Ishanga replied to Edvard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Edvard Since i have no real knowing, I do not consciously remember past lives or events, even if I did how would I know it was me or true, it could all be imagination, but on a logical intellectual level, it makes sense to me that reincarnation is a real possibility... You don't remember past lives and events simple to save You the grief or shame or other disempowering emotions, its natures way of giving you a clean slate in a way, not a totally clean slate but a chance to start over, if you had access to all the event of your past lives I bet 99% of the ppl would not be able to function in daily life.. Ppl today have a hard enough time get thru THIS LIFE's past events, never mind possibly 100's or 1000's past lives events, so its best to Live Now, focus on NOW, as that is where LIfe Exists, You are Life, but its okay to investigate into it and see what comes up, just don't put too much time or effort into reincarnation or trying to bring up past lives memories or events, it could seriously make life worse for You if you have not established a stable base of emotions and energy situations within Yourself! -
Guest replied to Edvard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation = change of form. Is change of form real? You be the judge! -
Reincarnation happens probably. Because before you were born, you were in the same state as you are after you're dead. And from that state you were born, and if it could happen once, why not again? And time doesn't pass for the dead, so you could be unconscios for an eternity and not feel any time having passed at all.
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I'm open to anything that helps but I can't lie it's a bit disheartening that one has to do something like this just to experience what comes naturally to other men. I feel like these type of things help men who have some sort of romantic success/experience in the past, so they know it's possible. However if you have had literally nothing only rejection, maybe the subconscious and self image is so damaged to the point it can't be healed and maybe it's even doing more damage to give yourself false hope. If there was a pill that could switch off romantic and sexual desire permanently I would take it. The only reason I don't take my own life is because I believe in reincarnation and if I take that option I will have to do this life of rejection and suffering again.
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Guest replied to Arthogaan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's why the question "is reincarnation real" doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, look around... reality is dying and being reborn in and out of nowhere every single moment of existence. It's called life, and it is THIS! That's the beauty of existence... getting lost is just as perfect and divine as getting un-lost. It's all just part of the game, and as long as you don't take it too serious... where's the problem? Even having a problem is not a problem, unless you choose to make it one. -
Basman replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You don't have to believe and subscribe to any one concepts, especially religious ones. People will get mad though if you question the things they believe in. But it is as you say, reincarnation as a religious concept is arbitrary. Reincarnation might have merit in one way or another, but who knows. I believe personally the concept of "sin" has some merit but differently to how religious people treat the idea. It is not a dogma. -
nistake replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When you reflect that this world is filled with death, and that your body, too, has to be relinquished, God’s plan seems very cruel. You can’t imagine that He is merciful. But when you look at the process of death with they eye of wisdom, you see that after all it is merely a thought of God passing through a nightmare of change into blissful freedom in Him again. Saint and sinner alike are given freedom at death, to a greater or lesser degree according to merit. In the Lord’s dream astral world- the land to which souls go at death- they enjoy a freedom such as they never knew during their earthly life. So don’t pity the person who is passing through the delusion of death, for in a little while he will be free. Once he gets out of that delusion, he sees that death was not so bad at all. He realises his mortality was only a dream and rejoices that now no fire can burn him, no water can drown him; he is free and safe. But such is the delusion of desire for material things that, after a time of freedom from the body, he wants to come back to earth. Even though the soul knows that the body is subject to disease and troubles, these delusive desires for earthly experience veil that knowledge and deceive his consciousness. So after a karmically predetermined time in the astral world, he is reborn on earth. When death comes, he goes forth once more from the gross dream of this earth experience to the finer dream of the astral plane, only to be drawn back to this world. And again and again he returns, until he is no longer desirous of an earthly life. Birth and death are doors through which you pass from one dream to another. All you are doing is going back and forth between this gross dream world and the finer astral dream world; between these two chambers of dream nightmares and dream pleasures. Thus reincarnation is a series of dreams within a dream; man’s individual dreams within the greater dream of God. Someone is born on earth in France as a powerful king, rules for a time, then dies. He may be reborn in India, and travel in a bullock cart into the forest to meditate. He may next find rebirth in America as a successful businessman; and when he dreams death again, reincarnate perhaps in Tibet, as a devotee of Buddha and spend his life in a lamasery. Therefore hate none and be attached to no nationality, for sometimes you are a Hindu, sometimes a Frenchman, sometimes an Englishman, or an American, or a Tibetan. What is the difference? Each existence is a dream within a dream, is it not? Will you continue helplessly to go through all these delusions and the difficulties they create? Each nation thinks its ways are justified, its customs the best. Are you going to go on with this delusion? I am not. For unless wisdom is supreme, reincarnation is a very troublesome experience. One should avoid forced reincarnation because it is a painful continuation of this dream delusion. For how long will you pass through these changes called life and death? Until you realise fully the dream nature of creation, and awaken in God from its nightmares. Extract from the book “Divine Romance” by Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda. -
Brandon Nankivell replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I haven't recalled past lives in this lifetime so I don't claim to know the Truth of reincarnation, my acceptance of it has been shaped however by the influence of Paramahansa Yogananda, saints of similar aptitude claiming its reality, the countless NDE experiences expressed on YouTube, and The Big Book of Reincarnation. -
Yup , nothing makes sense. The more conscious you become the more you see how the world acts around you doesnt make sense. You enjoy the structure so you try to give it sense so it stays structured. Everything is part of your mind and your dream, you're always safe. The reason you give your authority away is because otherwise you wouldnt enjoy life and life would be just an empty shell. The only thing we can do is pray and imagine in the future that we will have a smooth transition to oneness so we can construct and choose the next reincarnation. But i don't even know if it works like that and the only option might be imagining our own death to loose the ego body and make everything restart. When i was 4 years old i had the same dream like 10x @Princess Arabia . In the dream i saw that i jumped down from a high roof building, while flying down i felt the same cold as from lsd when transitioning to high consciousness and when i almost touched the ground the screen went black and i alwayse woke up. So i transitioned from one dream to another dream by getting rid of my ego. I believe since you're nothingness it is essentially almost not possible to get rid of your ego since it is all you remember since you're nothingness, and you're constructing evrything on the go and i have seen it with my own eyes how i construct evrrything on the go in the present
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Breakingthewall replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The enlightened people use the term enlightenment like knowing what you are, eliminate all mental labels and stay with the essence, with what it is. then you realize that reality is immutable in a sense: it is. that being is reality. Well, you have already settled into the being and then the mind is silent because it has nothing to say about this, there is nothing to say. but then the enlightened guys start saying things like: reality is imaginary, you're dreaming it. I bet they say it because they have read or heard it, tradition. You can be enlightened, that is, outside the logical mind, completely in being, and at the same time be very superficial. I would say Peter Ralston, for me from what I have read, Adyashanty, and many more. You can also know the Buddhist tradition and be suggested by it and begin to create concepts such as reincarnation, etc., without really perceiving anything of it. In short, enlightenment and depth are two different things. I would say that Jesus Christ was enlightened and profound for example, but of the current spiritual writers, are extremely superficial, (well, at least since I know) and they copy from tradition and other writers. enlightened plus psychedelics, that's the combo. Let's see what happens, it there appears people who really go deep -
Soul Flight replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@StarStruck This is the whole fun of it. It is a Zen koan. It is the ineffable. It is like Neo in The Matrix. The machines can account for everything but there is always one tiny variable which they allow to manifest as Neo in every reincarnation of The Matrix. The universe wants to build a mirror to see itself. The hand trying to grasp itself. The word trying to speak itself and describe itself. It is all a paradox. I think Terrance McKenna and Noam Chomsky have each hypothesized that the base reality is language or math or information. It is "the word." It is all mind or consciousness. The first word or thought disrupts the silence.
