Natasha Tori Maru

You will find that this: Will just.... happen

The question would no longer be pertinent upon realization. You would have to enquire - why would you be aiming for something? What do you think we would be left with, after no-self?

There is a lot of time and care put into this. Appreciation, much much

One other con that isn't listed (not sure if this applies in the US, I'm Australian) but a credit card is counted as a debt against you (regardless of balance) if you ever go for a bank loan.

Well, they say if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him

A human Being

@AlienGeometry sounds like CE5 / Steven Greer stuff ?

This. Is. The. Shit. Conscious relationship. I am a seeker of it. I really appreciate the share - thank you

I do have to remind it to be an arsehole again - so you are on to something there

Are you currently in the middle of untangling your self, your ego, from your base sense of 'being'? When you are on the cusp of something large like this, a big fear block usually shows up. That process was very very destabilising for me. Very frightening. Like falling from a plane in tandem with an instructor parachuting. You feel safe clinging to the instructor (the ego), but you know to experience the fall in the full you must let go. The fear is the fear of letting go, the ego falling away. The unknown awaits. You look down and it appears like insanity - and the more insane part is you have no parachute! No guide once you let go. But when you do, you find there is no ground - and the experience goes. Goes. And goes. And you realise you have never seen the world before. Some of these religious institutions have some good grounding methods (Buddhism) because they know how destabilising the process is. Most of their practice is heavy on the grounding work - grounding is what you need. Of the body. The sensations. Walking meditation. Yoga. Any sort of manual task like cleaning even. A powerful one for me is concentrating on centering myself within my body, just below the belly button. I put all my focus there and it is quite pleasant. I feel a bit better every time. Fear is normal. Fear is actually the ultimate deception. The ultimate block to Love. You can take this work at your own pace. Pause for a bit of you don't feel ready. There is no end, so no rush. The feeling of insanity can be the beginning of disidentifying with thought. Thought is usually the ground of the inner landscape. Scary to delete the ground. That's why you need 'grounding' practice 😜 new ground after you delete the old

You can tailor it with respect to responses, no? Mine is set to some kind of arsehole mode, skeptic over 9000 I altered it a while ago. I was coming up with some different methods to install cladding on a project (tricky access that needed a crane). It was initially more intent on praising me for innovation when my intent was a hard list of pros/cons. How it's built out of the box creates a little echo chamber, if I recall correctly

@Breakingthewall I apologize for being condescending - or that it came out that way. It was not the intention. The intention was for you to be able to hold space for another perspective and reasonably speak on why it was not valid. Which, perhaps you did do - but the explanation was lost in the process. I have ego also, we all do. And all make mistakes and misunderstandings. No one is any better than the other. I wish you well!

You can also reach the limit of your inquiry within a domain - you naturally branch out and explore other domains. A broader perspective then facilities a deeper understanding of the original territory. I think the forum acts like this for Leo

Great dialogue - if I understand it correctly Einstein is saying the truth exists, even if humans do not. Tagore is of the belief that if no human is there to experience it - it is meaningless to call it truth at all? Einstein is believing in his 'objective laws' like a religion, really. I think Tagore is trying to reconcile the universal in the individual, noted in that he seems to believe the role of the mind is as a co-creator of reality. What do you think? Truth exists independently of humans or it emerges through human consciousness?

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