Natasha Tori Maru

The Cost of Understanding Why was there a cost for you? If one has nothing to prove, true listening, true understanding, naturally happens. Don't you think? Do you feel you had to give something up that was unwillingly given? Why is there pain / fear here for you? After all, this is where the "negativity" arises from. Where did you first feel the pain of this cost? And has this been connected with, so it is not echoing through the work again and again?

I think you would need telepathy for that! (in the context of knowing what you or I believe, as it applied to this dialogue) But I would add it to the brainstorm list, indeed. I can brainstorm some problematic methods of knowing... confabulating, hallucinating, overclaiming, rationalising, self-deception, projection... mind-reading. I often think about which version of 'knowing' a user might be invoking in their comments or arguments.

@AerisVahnEphelia Exactly. Are you: Inferring? Deducting? Inducting? Extrapolating? Estimating? Predicting? Maybe it is less rigorous. Guessing, speculating, assuming, presuming, intuiting, believing, expecting. Or maybe you are using a cognitive shortcut? A heuristic. Maybe pattern matching. Analogy reasoning. Or you could simply be confabulating. Regardless - you don't know. So I wouldn't make the claim, if I were you. But only because it stands on the spindly legs of a foal newly born

You think you are knowing?

@AerisVahnEphelia You don't know what I believe.

Men also carry the energy women seek

Deriving a substantial portion of your identity from anything outside yourself is a good recipe for low self esteem. And looksmaxxing can easily slide down this path. It can (and does, often) play into the powerlessness one can feel in a chaotic, uncertain, unpredictable external world (largely the state of society) - and attempts to find a mechanism of control to alleviate the anxiety (excessive preening and weird metrics for attractiveness). It can also be another form of obsessive status hierarchy one can try to master when they do not have any other value skillset. There is nuance in what users are saying here; no one is saying looks don't matter. The critique is toward looksmaxxing as a psychological framework, not the act of improving ones appearance.

I don't see a problem with it. Sometimes we need to realise we are, were, or can be, simply friends. I enjoy reconnecting with my exes to explore my own emotional responses through a previous connection. My own responses often surprise me - and are a good indicator for my own growth, and what I want going forward. The change in emotional response to a familiar situation can often be great feedback indicators for growth. Negative responses aren't bad. Bad feelings aren't bad. They pass. Fearing them or avoiding them IS bad. So even if there is some consternation, you learn something. Even if it is simply "I don't want that person in my life anymore, and I have no regrets". Most times I simply have warm feelings, well wishes, and no real incentive to maintain connection.

Yes - but my comment is more to do with the excessive and diverting emotionally charged language, intonation and tone. I find it difficult to receive the message.

@Butters The current expansion? I am pretty much retired from the game now. I get more pleasure & satisfaction from work, fitness and banal life tasks now. Funnily enough. I make it fun

I wish there was a full on breakdown in-depth interview that went into Blizzards history (and the Activision merge). Jeff Kaplan goes into how turd operations and marketing people eat the soul of good game designers and creators, and guts out a business. I really enjoy interviews with the guys behind Blizzard (I am a huge Chris Metzen fangirl huehue). NGL I hate Lex Friedman

@MarkKol Maybe I'm thinking of contraindications - and nothing I can quote or supply as to build a case. Just some literature I recall. I am naturally hesitant to use drugs for pleasure, or wantonly. Especially when they are not designed for what they are being used for.

I think Red Pill is negative in that it presents disempowerment through loss of agency - "It is what it is, I have no control" are some foregone conclusions many reach. If a worldview repeatedly attributes outcomes mostly to forces outside our control IE biology, female hypergamy, genetics, height, race, social media, feminism, modern culture... it can shift attention away from what you can influence. At the end of the say - what is one REALLY getting from the ideology? How useful is it to the individual? I think this is why some aspects of PUA are overall more empowering, in general (some parts are not so good though). 'Tis like NLP reframing that one HAS control to influence outcomes.

I confess I have not enjoyed, and even actively disliked, Leo's posts and video's regarding science (especially as of late). The repeated rhetoric, the absence of substantially new arguments, and the consistent way the subject punctuates his work, suggests an emotional core / motivation rather than any attempt at true education. I get the impression there is affront, slight and offence taken that science does not take Leo's work seriously, and I feel this is the true impulse behind statements like "I am not done with science". Well, science appears to be done with Leo - which may be the problem. The tone is sour. The passion reads as inciting emotional contagion in the listener, rather than appealing to logic. Just how it comes across to me. Emotions are fine. Great even. But they can corrupt logic and critical thinking if we are not truly connected to ourselves. Connected in understanding. And wisdom. Emotional connection / integration is a huge gap in the body of Leo's work - and I see this in his followers. Whether the above inference is correct or not, I find myself perceiving less a sustained, logically structured critique and more a series of emotionally charged rants . Even intonation and expression when Leo records himself on this subject act to steer me to my conclusion.

What I wrote has nothing to do with whether I understood your point or not.

Would it not make sense to address the health issue instead of take a drug? The drug has significant health risks and side effects. Cardiovascular issues are particularly nasty to combine with the drug. It is a lot of risk just to enjoy "dick all hard, yay". If you feel less of a masculine without it (less motivated, driven etc), there is some other issue needing to be addressed. I would hazard a guess and go straight to some physiological issue or emotional block. Blocking your emotions will give one ED.

Incentive systems and societal conditioning... through conformity, status, authority, and the desire to belong, are powerful forces that shape human behaviour, often overriding or redirecting our innate biological predispositions. Think of the guy who suppresses his sexual interest because acting on every attraction would damage his relationships, career, or reputation. The woman who works full-time because economic realities require two incomes, even if she would personally prefer to spend more time raising children. The man who avoids expressing vulnerability because workplace or cultural norms reward stoicism. Remaining single because modern dating markets, career priorities, or personal freedom outweigh the benefits of partnership. A woman who competes aggressively in a high-status career (promotions, income, and autonomy are valuable incentives) etc etc etc Biology provides us with predispositions that in turn give us motivations. Incentive structures are so powerful, their effect must also be accounted for - even enlightened or awakened masters are not immune (which is why we sometimes witness corruption from spiritual leaders). Red Pill definitely has some truth in it, but it is half the story, and neglects the critical thinking that would entice us to ask "What else could cause this effect?" I like to ask myself "what if...? when trying to understand information and systems - especially when it is a new idea I am presented with

@MarkKol Do you think it is healthy to address this in such a way?

@AION well ain't that lucky for you - you don't have to participate or care 😃

Earth, or human built systems?

No. Red pill is not truth. It takes elements of systems, reduces them down, and tries to form a neat little explanation. Some of the core tenants of red pill have truth in them. But like anything - the truth arrives with a whole bunch of horsehit in tow. And red pill lacks nuance and doesn't account for huge systems that can explain behaviour. The worst part about it, is if you operate from that paradigm, you end up with your own self fulfilling prophecy of endless recursive confirmation bias. At it's core red pill is just an extreme cognitive bias.

The fuck, that escalated from some general interpersonal development advice to taking drugs lol

Thanks for the share. Interesting frame to look at these subjects from. Do you think AI will have an effect on religiosity in our culture?

The supplements I take - based on blood tests for deficiency (the best supplement is the one you need to address a deficiency): - Vit D, Magnesium, K2 My own choice, because I feel a direct effect in joint health, performance and cognitive benefit: - Cod liver oil (not capsules, tastes like arse but you can tell when it is rancid) + 5g Creatine I don't trust greens powders, multivitamins and most supplements. They aren't regulated. I hear supplements being pushed in any sort of media and I relegate it to 'grift'.

Don't perpetuate anti-therapy rhetoric. Learn to identify it when you see it. Just like anti-vax shit - there is a huge amount of anti-therapy dialogue floating on the internet. The slow slide into 'therapizing' every fucking normal human emotion has not done the field much good, IMO. Lots of online spaces do this and it ruins our ability to seek, obtain and reside in true connection. Women can be particularly prone to perpetuating and falling into this. Most people I read speaking about therapy are coming from a place of ignorance. Repeating some shit they heard. Therapy can have huge barriers to entry and issues within the field - yes. Realise this, but don't downplay how powerful it truly is. If you have a shit time with humans - try equine therapy. Sounds loopy. Do the loopy