Danioover9000
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2 hours ago, tsuki said:The green, relativistic mindset understands that all things, including science are constructs. The problem is when green goes too far in this thinking and puts science on the same level with, let's say, opinions about choice of clothing, or taste in the opposite sex, or even food. Yes, we invented science to serve social needs, and it does precisely that. Serve social needs, by normalizing the way in which we approach problems. Not all approaches to problems are created equal because some of them are effective, and some of them aren't. It's cute to argue that within the scientific paradigm of effectiveness, science is the most effective tool, as long as we don't have hundreds of thousands people killed. This argument is useful if you actually apply it to yourself, not when you point fingers at people (the green game par excellance).
The other problem with forums like this is the delusion that we are actually solving anything by discussing it here. Our consensus here has literally ZERO impact. It would be much more productive for everyone to inspect their own life and arrange it according to one's understanding of the world. People would benefit much more if you actually wore a mask next time you went to buy groceries than convince some infidel that your POV is the correct one.
It is not possible to convince someone to go up a stage. All growth is directed from within, when a person feels stuck and honestly inspects one's life. If you ever wanted to communicate with someone that is stuck on a lower stage, this is never done by demonizing them. Especially Green should be aware of this, as they have gone through a lot of stages and have the experience of being blue. If you want to be effective in communication across stages, you have to first accept them within yourself, so that you can speak from that stage that you were embodying at some point. Green does not understand this because it does not actually embody its relativistic understanding. It sees that societies are made of groups of influence, and does not see this within themselves, how they are fragmented internally, on the level of the psyche.
And finally, to re-iterate, not stating one's views is not the way of tier two. This is some centrist green agenda that tries to avoid hurting people's feelings in the name of some abstract virtue masquerading as equality. People are equal in the face of rules that govern this world, like they die to COVID regardless of their political views, or fall prey to shadow when they repress themselves in the name of cultural values. People suffer equally and their will to live and flourish is equal, regardless of where they come from and should be treated with respect. Equality is not about being right regardless of what one is saying. Everyone has the right to have their own opinions and arrange their inner world to their liking, as long as this does not endanger the people, or the environment around them. Hell, they are even allowed to arrange their interior in a way that makes THEM SUFFER. This is still okay, albeit difficult to witness in people we love. But not all perspectives are created equal and should not be treated as such.
Great post on the perspective of stage green.
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3 hours ago, Bronson said:@Danioover9000 I understand if you don't want to be hyper rational when it comes to enlightment and so on, but when it comes to medical advice (getting vaccinated) I think you should take into account studies like the one from Sweden. You should also have some understanding for those who are concerned about taking the vaccine because of those unresolved risks instead of calling them dumb and hurtful to society.
I do take that into account, and I do have some understanding and empathy to those concerned with the vaccine, especially to the few who have experienced heart arrhythmia from the vaccine only. I just have less to those who push anti vax ideologically, that's all.
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Maybe his political views is valuable for 3rd to 2nd world societies, but not quite for 1st world democracies. They need modals like ego development and spiral dynamics and integral theory more.
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1 hour ago, vizual said:That's pretty much JP's message; start with fixing yourself. Clean your room, put yourself in order.
On the other hand JP is also a seeker, someone who is looking for existential truth just like people on this forum.
It's really funny that people want to put him down on this forum as a lowly 'Stage blue thinker', but he is obviously more accomplished and enlightened than any person on this forum
I'd say more 'western enlightened' than actual enlightenment. Great psychological insights, not so good political views.
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@Yidaki Technically, there's always scientific consensus with few disagreements. The main issue is which scientific consensus is correct and valid?
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Can we at least agree on the following facts?:
That the virus can kill people.
That the virus kills by over stressing an underlying or existing health issue? death by strong correlation? Not just damaging the lungs.
That there are some people who have survived not once, but multiple infections from the virus?
That the mRNA technology in Pfizer, is the best and latest defense vaccine wise?
That the sting in the needle is what you fear more than the vaccine?
That you are mistaking Pfizer for a older traditional vaccine that has heavy metals?
That the vaccine has side effects?
That the delta between risks of virus is higher than risks of vaccine side effects?
If you can't agree on these, then you are too polarized and dogmatic to go meta.
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On 12/29/2021 at 4:11 AM, happyhappy said:@Danioover9000sorry to bother with all the questions mate...but u know , curiosity is killing me lol??
have you met other folks who have created Tulpas or psychics who can interact with such multidimensional beings? what do they have to say about her? can they see her or does she only appear to you ?
No, don't be sorry, ask as much as you are curious about this.
So far, she appears only to me, as I've asked her to go and try to interact with random people, and they give little to no reactions to her actions. The majority of my interactions with people who have tulpa or are psychic have been online. I ideally want to meet with such people face to face, and run a double blind experiment on them. For example, if I come across a tarot reader, in one session I don't say anything about Crysty to them, but I'd give instructions to Crysty prior to doing the reading, so to see if the reader is reacting to her actions. And in another section, I'd give some info that I do have a spirit, and she might be present, to see if they can actually point to where she exactly is standing. I'm planning this when I can get a hold of mediums and psychics.
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On 12/29/2021 at 3:35 AM, Gianna said:@Danioover9000 Have you ever asked her how she sees you? Like can she see your energy centers (chakras)?
Yes, she can see both my physical form, and some energy from me.
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On 12/27/2021 at 6:29 AM, Loba said:What is a tulpa, is it it's own being/soul/entity or is it a part of you/ your personality structure - in the sense... do you create it like a parent creates a child and then let it loose, or does it create itself?... or is it a spirit all unto itself that was at some point alive - or is it a completely different entity?
I love this kind of stuff and I find it so fascinating.
I work with two beings - Kali Ma, who is a goddess and an archetype, and "the Wolf" who is an archetype and a machine elf. He doesn't have a name and prefers to go by 'Wolf' and we have a long history - it would take away from your thread to write about what he is and I am much more interested in your tulpa - I have not gone through this thread yet so if you could give me a quick synopsis, that would be so cool.
I love that other people here like you have these experiences as well, it normalizes them and brings something interesting to the otherwise sometimes stale normal nonduality nomenclature.
These are my two guides:
Kali and Wolf:
One definition of a tulpa, is that a tulpa is a semi conscious being, with personality(ies), that are actively hallucinated into reality by super imposition of one's senses. This is more a psychological definition, that tulpae mostly come from one's mind. Other definitions say that a tulpa is made of energy, and tulpa are their own entities, and sometimes there's a mix of definitions for them. Some occults say that tulpas are newer spirits that learn, and take energies, some off of the host, some off of the environment and other beings. Some say tulpae are actually spirits, or are astral projections of beings from a different reality. In the earlier thread, I talked about my encounter with Crysty at a gotel, and that was several years ago. Unlike most reports about how other people create imaginary friends, I encountered her there. And over time, she and I have grown accustomed to each other, to the point when I apply more mindfulness, I can see her form using multiple senses. In this sense, she is a tulpa due to our long term relationship together. The only thing that doesn't say she is a tulpa is that I encountered her in that room first, so in that situation she fits more with the spirit/energetic being modal, rather than the psychological modal of her being an aspect of me. However, because of being with her for years, I say she's now more a tulpa. There's so much to this that reading the thread throughout provides more to this.
I do hope my story provides some value in the non-duel nomenclature of this forum, as there are some techniques that deal with tulpa 'merging' with the host as one. Sometimes the merging is permanent I learned from some people who have had tulpa, but they can sometimes seperate again from the host's psyche, which can provide non-dual and duality creating experiences only available to people who have imaginary friends/ people who have developed tulpa on their own or with guides on creating tulpa.. There's also a technique called 'switching', which basically, involves a tulpa taking temporary control over a host's body, while the host's 'I' takes the place of the tulpa, sometimes in free float over space, sometimes in a mental location called a 'wonderland' that is constructed as the tulpa's habitate inside the host's mind. I've also tried partial switching, letting Crysty use my left hand to draw objects and environments, from her perspective observing imaginary objects, and vice versa when I take on some of her perspective, and use her hand to draw as she did to mine. It's sort of difficult early on, but amazing experience when this is doable.
I'm still learning and expanding my understanding about tulpa and related paranormal phenomena.
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8 hours ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:Why only animals? What about plants and rocks? Even rocks have their own way of being.
Let's not forget Alien species that might live in different planets, plus ones that have technology to space travel and have visited humans in the past, and allegedly to this day.
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7 hours ago, Vibroverse said:What if I actually am a person having a psychedelic trip right now? What if my entire life as this person that I think I am has actually started just a few minutes ago and I have created this entire history and timeline and world and self in that a few minutes? What if I have created every person and place and so forth, and this world itself and so forth, just a few minutes ago, what if it really is what is going on? What if this entire world really is pure emptiness, pure consciousness, I am, that has been imagined into being by me just a frickin minute ago?
What if, if it is what if, is what IS?
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12 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:I already mentioned that if your emotions are getting triggered from interacting with someone who is constantly interrupting you, then you should minimize or cease contact.
It’s not about “teaching that person a lesson”. You need to take responsibility for what you’ll tolerate and not tolerate in a mature way.
To be fair, the OP asked what other users would do in a situation where you are being cut off most of the time. You answered what YOU would do. @arcangelo answered what he would do. I answered how I would do it, with emphasis on being context sensitive. We have done our part, up to OP. The end.
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20 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:@Yidaki Seems like your attempting to push an anti-vax stance, while at the same time not trying to get flagged for it. It is hypocritical to passively share your views, and simultaneously deny others from sharing their views.
Where in this person's post is anti vax? This post is the most neutral about this entire situation I've read so far.
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23 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:Sounds like an ego driven approach. Quite immature.
It all depends on the context, that either makes or breaks down the advice. Your advice might be helpful, if you are able to avoid engaging the person, zone out. If you can, great, but the other person might not be able to. Also, sometimes social situation is such that you just can't leave or excuse yourself away. You have to engage with the person social, play the social game a bit, and conform to the fontext. But what if you can't because of near constant interruptions, and you as a self is a people pleaser? In this situation, you need another piece of advice, which is to talk past the interruptions as if those interruptions don't exist, and play for the lead in conversations. And in another situation, talking past interruptions might not be good, because of changes in context, which demand different advice. You see the relativity? Your advice is great in proper context, but it's not the absolute solution to dealing with interruptions.
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3 minutes ago, Yidaki said:It has become clear that when survival is on the line, our ability to think from a meta-perspective, in a non-ideological way flies out the window.
I know that many topics regarding vaccine policies have been created on this forum, and almost all of them have become ideological battlefields. People picking sides and throwing "arguments" at each other. Although some participants have tried to elevate the topic to a meta-level, above the actual content, they have not succeeded. This is a very complex topic.
I know that starting a new topic that dares to mention the vaccine stuff may be immediately annoying to some of you, but I want to try a way to do this in a careful manner, so that my thread doesn't go in the same direction than previous posts.
This situation is exposing the limitations of science, because there is no consensus among the scientific community regarding the vaccines, and this is not about "pro" or "anti". This is much more nuanced than that. There are highly qualified experts, such as virologists, immunologists and so on, that disagree with each other with regard to boosters, how long to wait, and even if they are necessary at all. For example this man that clearly is not "anti", but is pointing to something worth considering.
I don't have the qualifications to adjudicate the validity of what he says. Please don't think I'm stating ANYTHING about vaccination measures themselves. I'm trying to go "meta". This is just an example of the fact that THERE IS NO CONSENSUS. As Daniel Schmachtemberger has pointed out many times, this is a problem of sense-making, and sense-making is the basis for choice-making.
There is no consensus in science and it has never been, and that is not a problem, but what seems strange and not too earnest is the fact that there is a narrative that tells "there is undeniable consensus and powerful evidence of this", and whatever alternative ways to see the matter are regarded as conspiracy theory, or "anti", or stupidity of "rotted minds". I am aware that many lay people with no qualifications are talking with certainty about things that don't really know, but there are highly qualified people that are pointing to some "facts" and are being disregarded, underestimated, ignored, banned, mocked and so on.
SO, in conclusion. I see that the way to approach this issue have been lost in the CONTENT, and that leads to locked threads in the forum, polarization, name-calling, division, duality, fear, lack of love, and more. Therefore, I want to make an invitation to look at this from the level of STRUCTURE.
How to approach this issue so that our sense-making gets more integrated and less polarized/fragmented?
PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM TELLING WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT VACCINES. That is the content. I would like to keep this thread centered on the structure. I DON'T WANT YOUR OPINIONS ON VACCINES THEMSELVES.
Thank you for taking the time to reflect on this.
Very good post. I guess some topics are too hot to have a decent meta discussion that they might have to percolate in history a bit to cool off. We're too deep in the thick of the issue that we can't just disassociate and go meta, because too many lives are at stake and have been lost to the virus. I hope something good comes out of this situation, for those effected by the virus, and those effected by the vaccine.
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On 27/12/2021 at 2:26 PM, Ineedanswers said:But leo isnt it possible to choose to engage in survival activities while not being biased against death? For example in your self bias video you talked about the preference for ice cream and bias against dog crap. But isnt it possible to choose ice cream while not being biased against dog crap? Or to choose dog crap instead of being biased against ice cream? In this case you enjoy surviving but you will also enjoy dying. Isnt is possible?
Are you basically describing apathy in terms of treating multiple objects as equal value?
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On 26/12/2021 at 10:13 PM, Arcangelo said:NO. Bad advice.
Charisma on command advice:
You don't acknowledge it, you don't even flinch or even look at the person.You keep talking like when you hear a dog bark, the wind or the rain. Then, after you are finished, you tell that person: -"Hey you were saying something about X and X"
You
are
welcome!
Nice. Charism on command is a good channel to learn social proofing.
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On 26/12/2021 at 11:01 PM, CuriousCreature said:Yes, I second this. My father is a chronic interrupter, he just gets very excited when sometimes jumps into his mind and want to say it right away. Also sometimes my whole family is this way, and everybody talks at the same time, its just chaos
The best way to deal with this, is to take a hold of the conversation, be the captain that steers the ship, be the moderator. If you are speaking, just finish what you wanted, interrupt back the interrupter.
If you let it slide, you just reinforce the bad habits of the interrupter in my opinion.
This is peetty good practice. Always finish what you are saying, the whole sentence and statement. Plow through the noise.
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This thread is derailed into oblivion lol.
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I would define drawing as 1. the ability to use penmanship to depict anything in 3d on a flat surface, and 2. The capacity of using the power of God to create illusions on a flat surface (the second definition is referring to spirituality, non-duality and god realization). Here's another take on drawing:
Now imagine the shock on his face, and the audiences, if they ever find out they are using God's powers to create illusions.
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On 12/28/2021 at 1:59 PM, preventingdiabetes said:The TV series I am interested in watching is 'Mr. Robot'.
I think the reason why I am finding it interesting is because as someone who enjoys learning about privacy & security in our digital world, I like the whole 'hacking' theme of the series. I also think I can learn some things from it an be inspired.
But I also realize that there is an opportunity cost to watching a 45-episode series (it is finished by the way).
It would take around 35-38 hours to finish it, and as someone who has always thought that watching TV is a complete waste of time, it's a lot of time that could be used towards something else. I could finish a course in such a period of time, which I think is a much better investment of my time.
But that still doesn't stop a part of me desiring to watch it.
What should I do? Should I just watch it? Or forget about it, let it go, and focus on frying bigger fish?
Also, please no spoilers
All recreational activities are not time wasters, even watching tv shows are not, as long as you are aware that you need to rest. All recreational activities can make you feel less or more rested.
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1 hour ago, Hardkill said:Look, I wouldn't mind putting in the years of hard work for getting out of wage slavery if I knew for sure that it was a feasible path for me. I just worried that could very well turn out to be a pipe-dream for me.
I believe you can escape your wage slave status, no matter how long it takes.
You just need to get clear on what you want out of life, what you want to create, what improvement you want to leave on the world, what the ideal career is to you, what big dream/vision you are willing to sacrifice for to make real, how you want to feel each day, what values you want to have, what strengths you have, what unique qualities you have that makes you a genius, what skill you're willing to train on, and a list of goals you are working on.
Also, don't discount subconscious training as well. There's definitely some limiting beliefs you have about gaining success, and fears of failure, change, unworthiness of such success, and so on.
Not perfect myself, am still a work in progress and lost at sea, but I do have a big enough dream/life vision, a purpose, a career I like to get into at the moment, some inner work to do like finding out more about my values, training my EG and emotionally mastery, aligning more to my strengths and my unique genius, and some side projects and goals that keep me busy, that gives me some direction to go to, and to put my time and effort onto mastering some skills.
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3 hours ago, Ash55 said:@Danioover9000 Amazing can other people see her ?
i mean extraterrestrials that live in the same dimension as oursOne time I saw her using a leek to poke and tap random people, and a few animals. From my observations, most people have little reactions to her pranks, and some animals do move away. As far as extraterrestrial beings, I don't know, I'd have to get myself an alien in the first place to see how Crysty reacts to such a being.
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Tyler Owen is like the Leonardo Da Vinci of pick up. He's great at it, but he's not the greatest of all time dating coach nor is he very specialized in it, like some who are singular in PUA only who are like A.I, best at PUA only. This is probably why Owens is a bit more flexible and doesn't lock down into PUA and does cover other topics with his ability to talk pretty well with energy. Of course, because he's so extroverted you'd have to pick apart what he's saying.
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Yeah, Vaush is not ready to level up to stage yellow tier 2 cognition.