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8 minutes ago, nowimhere said:

By comparison....  smoking (2 or 3 mins) < 60 mins non duality ... That's pretty much 20-30 times the amount of time !

Some of my trips even go beyond 60 mins. Sometimes 1h20m.

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No way that that much immersion wouldn't be good.

It's beyond good. It's the only way to seriously do this work. You want as much time as possible to bask and contemplate in that glorious nonduality. And it's important to keep your eyes open.

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It would be awesome if we were able to find a way of extending the trip duration even more. Perhaps some supplement combo could do it. But you have to be extremely careful testing out combos. The wrong combo could be lethal. For example taking 5-MeO-DMT with MAOI is extremely dangerous and should never be done.


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30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It would be awesome if we were able to find a way of extending the trip duration even more. Perhaps some supplement combo could do it. But you have to be extremely careful testing out combos. The wrong combo could be lethal. For example taking 5-MeO-DMT with MAOI is extremely dangerous and should never be done.

Man 24 hours would be nuts. But as Martin Ball has proven, it's possible to achieve this as a permanent state. Haven't read "Being Human" yet, maybe he says how many trips he took before non duality was permanent for him

Another thing to consider safety wise besides doses and mixing with 5 MEO is setting. I saw this vice doc where these dudes smoked 5 MEO and then rolled around in this creek bed. How fucking irresponsible. 

From what I've read, 2 reported deaths were with a MAOI. But two of the other reported deaths were people doing it in the bath. (Then presumably drowning) . There was another death, which I would assume was just a straight up overdose. 

So yeah... Setting is important too. 


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@nowimhere Outdoors tripping is always much riskier. I don't recommend it, even though outside is beautiful.


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4 hours ago, nowimhere said:

@Leo Gura  Yes my smoking trips are only 2 or 3 minutes of mind fuckery. Then 45 mins of afterglow mindfuckery lol. 

Definitely want to get in on the plugging train ! :D

By comparison....  smoking (2 or 3 mins) < 60 mins non duality ... That's pretty much 20-30 times the amount of time !

No way that that much immersion wouldn't be good.

Just reached day 100 today with meditation today. Today and yesterday "broke through" to just pure white light. First time that's ever happened. Was trippy as hell. I can see how the consistency of it is what matters. Just like with 5 MEO... I can see how all of this starts to "crack the cosmic egg" with repeated practice and use over time. 

You vape 5-MEO and your trips are only 2/3 minutes? You must be doing something wrong.

When I vape, the trips are between 20-30 minutes. Time-wise it may be shorter than plugging it, but it is far more intense and more potent.

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21 minutes ago, Pateedm said:

@Leo Gura Would you ever consider doing a "live 5-Meo trip" video? I think that'd be really cool to see.

It would freak you guys out and make me look insane.


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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It would freak you guys out and make me look insane.

No, it would be entertaining. You cannot freak out a freak. We're all zombie freaks watching ourselfs for entertainment purposes only...else why do it at all?

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3 minutes ago, Umar_uk said:

No, it would be entertaining. You cannot freak out a freak. We're all zombie freaks watching ourselfs for entertainment purposes only...else why do it at all?

Look, you are not the only person here. Actualized.org needs to be appealing to ordinary folks. I don't want to just be preaching to a choir of freaks and nondual assholes.


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17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't want to just be preaching to a choir of freaks and nondual assholes.

Also Leo : “Love is fundamental”

lol

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6 minutes ago, Arhattobe said:

Also Leo : “Love is fundamental”

lol

Ah... speaking of lovable nondual assholes ;)


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33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Look, you are not the only person here. Actualized.org needs to be appealing to ordinary folks. I don't want to just be preaching to a choir of freaks and nondual assholes.

But Leo...there is only one of us here remember...And yeah we've all got assholes and they all stink...your the one getting all uppity here not me. I'm just expressing what I know from my own unique perspective and direct experience, no need to cry about it. I love watching your videos they are amazingly well thought out and expressed, I don't agree with all of what you say, but I get the general gist of what you are saying. And by the way, you have literally told people on your videos that they are dead, but here now you don't seem to like that idea do you? 

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Look, you are not the only person here. Actualized.org needs to be appealing to ordinary folks. I don't want to just be preaching to a choir of freaks and nondual assholes.

Do it! It would be amazing to see!

That video can have the greatest potential than all of your other videos combined!

Just don't post it on YouTube. You can post it here in the blog section as you do.

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9 hours ago, whoareyou said:

You vape 5-MEO and your trips are only 2/3 minutes? You must be doing something wrong.

When I vape, the trips are between 20-30 minutes. Time-wise it may be shorter than plugging it, but it is far more intense and more potent.

No I smoke it in a regular glass pipe sandwiched with mullein leaves. Works perfectly fine to achieve breakthrough

 

5 hours ago, Pateedm said:

Yeah blog section would be cool, I reckon it'd filter out the younglings. :D

I agree with the blog idea. But really, don't need to see it if you have already achieved breakthrough yourself

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Insight on 5-meo-dmt. I have a lot of respect for Leo/Martin/Octavio etc for introducing me to 5-meo-dmt. Guys, we have to remember that this is a technology ( basically pure prana.) Is *NOT* (pure powder consciousness). We have to use it to open the chakras up to the third eye. The reason this is a temporary enlightening experience is the fact that we haven't developed the chakras enough to withstand this energy. Enlightenment only happens once. We have to use it to open the chakras. Listen to Sadhguru. 5-meo-dmt is like Dhynalinga in his temple of Shiva is a technology. Don't rely on 5-meo-dmt for enlightenment because it will never give permanent enlightenment. That is something different. The reason we vomit and stuff with this is again because the body can't hold so much energy/prana. Everything is energy. As I am writing this I see the full circle, is a paradox. I see more now the need to eat positive pranic food and really stop eating the negative pranic food and all the other advice that Sadhguru gives. The reason we get hungry after the trips is for the fact that we have spent so much energy(calories) is because I just introduce a lot of energy to the body and a lot of calories got burnt trying to hold that energy. There is a whole science on how to get enlighten for a reason(Yoga). 5Meo is a technology we have to understand the science! If you are not careful 5meo will fry your body! During all past trips I always Open up the body and relax and I did with this up to a point, when I started to feel the need to vomit I decided to use my will to say no and went and move from fully open to sitting meditation posture and withhold the need to vomit with my will ( controlling the prana surging  in the spine). Is science! Try to be conscious through the whole experience. After the breakthrough experience work with medium or low dosages. Plugging is much better because the smoothness is great because we have to develop the body and be gentle with it. Be conscious of your spine all the time maintained it erect. Also, a tip on plugging if you need to plug it sideways for some reason *just* plug it sideways and then move all 4 doggy style. That way it drips where it needs to be and you don't get the very unpleasant sensation of needing to go to the bathroom right before going into Infitity (that is a great tip right there). I also notice the need to sit on full lotus but I couldn't do it (not flexible) enough. I will start doing this practice to be able to sit on the full lotus. I don't care if it takes a year or more. This position is really good to have the spine perfectly erect. I remember when I was a child I use to sit in full lotus posture on my grandmas house and meditate! More than a decade ago I didn't know anything about anything I was 7 or 8 years old OMG this just came to me now. I am crying. 

 

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If you watch this video and have use 5-meo-dmt in the past then you know what he is talking about in this video.  At least 2 times I have drenched in the "bliss body" It's so much better than an orgasm. 100 times better.

 

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On 6/12/2019 at 10:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

It would freak you guys out and make me look insane.

Yeah, probably, but consider how powerful it could be to help awaken those who don't have 5-MeO. As I understand it, that is how spiritual transmissions work - the master goes into such a high state of consciousness that it leaks out of him and the student catches it by osmosis.


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@okulele A student can only ever be as good as their teacher. How did you learn that 1+1 =2 so easily from your teacher and not how to calculate 546 x 2562= 1398852. It wasn't by a process of osmosis, i understand what your trying to say here. but the process is not automatic.. The student themselves had to understand

what "1" is,

what "+" is

, what "=" is,  etc.. etc.. before they can learn what the expression 1+1=2 means and forge an exact copy of that in their own minds 

Therefore, Leo's state of consciousness is independent of the correlation between him being more awakened and how far the student consciousness goes. The only nuance approach is that infinite intelligence is working behind the scenes, but you can't take this into account as a factor when trying to mathematically elaborate it inside of language.   

The truth is: 

The student must teach himself and do the practices. The teacher only serves as an aid to help open up the individuals mind to the infinite number of ways the teachings can be expressed. In other words, teachers exist to open up the imaginations of their students. Rigid teachers, believe they are doing this but are actually encapsulating reality into a box, into a trap they have caught themselves in. Hence the educational system in the world is amazingly poor at being opened up to rigorous imagination, it would destroy the whole system because eventually someone like leo would have realised the fundamental assumptions of all predicated knowledge is illusory. LOL the irony of having one good student who questions everything he's taught.  

The 5-meo only works as good as the meta-knowledge + preexisting direct experience of truth. the student has accumulated and this will lead you to omniscience consciousness or not. Leo is only an aid or catalyst, there's no garunteed correlation between you taking 5-meo and reaching omniscience consciousness. 

Edit: So leo couldn't have reached omniscience consciousness without having experienced enlightenment first and so on, its a process that must constantly climb higher

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@okulele A trip video is not gonna awaken the viewer of it. It will just look silly to an outside observer.

All the magic goes on on the inside, not the outside. So there's no way to capture the profundity of a psychedelic breakthrough on video. You gotta take the psychedelic for yourself.


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