Muhammad Jawad

Soonhei (Member of this community) killed himself to experience Conscious Death. :-(

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There's a spirituality focused Facebook group with an announcement of his death on May 5 when the cause was unknown, the photos match up. 


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1 minute ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Entirely plausible, as @CBDinfused has just posted an image of people giving 'rest in peace' type messages on his Instagram.

I meant like, his wife, or investigators going through his devices, and going on his various accounts to see what he has been up to recently. 

 

Speculation right now isn't really apropos. 


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@Leo Gura Hi Leo! This is SoonHei's sister using his account trying to find out why he took the step that he did. I can confirm that he did in fact die on May 3rd by jumping off of a bridge.

His message to his wife was: "Oh I was never ending it. I was just continuing it. I just wanted to jump. Love you all. See you soon."

Similar message to what he sent to the person who started this thread (first post).

Now most important, SoonHei asked NAHM very directly before committing this act. I really wish NAHM had guided him better. SoonHei could not have been clearer. I will attach screenshots of their conversation in my next post.

If someone can tell us what he was trying to do, please do.

We cannot explain to you the shock of his death. We cannot wrap our heads around why he would do this. SoonHei was someone who has literally saved others from depression and suicide. We keep hearing stories from people that he helped in their darkest hour. I can tell you for a fact that he did not suffer from any mental illness or depression. Sunny was SO SO full of life.

He has left behind a 3 month old and a 20 month old. It is hard to even look at his 27-yr-old wife who was barely out of the post-partum phase with her baby. SoonHei was a very central part of our family. The most kind-hearted soul. An amazing son, a wonderful husband, the most supportive brother, and above all, a one-in-a-million father.

I feel like our whole family will go into depression...

Edited by SoonHei

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Very sad to hear. He was a very funny guy. Used to post funny stuff, puzzles and jokes 

Hope his family finds peace.

 

RIP @SoonHei


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@SoonHei I am sorry for the tragic loss in your family. Hope your family can find strength in this time.

 


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I'm really sorry for your loss. Rest in peace. 

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@SoonHei

Very sorry for your loss. In all fairness, it should also be disclosed that his message was edited more than once after I replied. I do not know by who, only that it was. My posts are visible and searchable. I have never supported the notion or concept of Mahāsamādhi, or, the conscious death’, but offered clarity on the misunderstanding. 


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This is really sad.

But you know... part of me doesn't buy it.

He died on May 3rd and they didn't say anything until now.

And the same day, just when OP decides to announce his death on the forum, his sister logs in on his account to find out what he was up to, weeks later? 

Idk, everything's weird.

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I feel bad for having used the dream/lucid dream analogy so much.


God is love

Whoever lives in love lives in God

And God in them

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In general there is too less information. You probably don't even know if it was suicide at all.

And if a person has really jumped from a bridge, there is currently probably no evidence that it was a forum member. At least I don't see one. 

Edited by IAmReallyImportant

You can derive it from simple logic

Left means not right

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@Shin don't guilt yourself.

@Sleyker @Michael569 you both need to chill with the detective attitude.

The guy committed suicide because he wanted to find his way that way. It's over. It's that simple. I wish he had found the right kind of help.

 


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18 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

@Sleyker I am with you, something doesn't feel right here. 

Yes. i feel same. 

Edited by Harikrishnan

I will be waiting here, For your silence to break, For your soul to shake,              For your love to wake! Rumi

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@Harikrishnan it doesn't seem like that to me 

It seems REAL.

Nobody will play such games.


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Very tragic, best wishes to the family and his 2 kids. Rest in peace.

Edited by 4201

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It should not be surprising, the philosophy Leo is using to describe spirituality is even more radical than this. Connor is a good example of this too. If you say everything is Good and Love, it is simply illogical to claim that it is better to do X.

This philosophy claims to recognize that torture and rape is Perfection. Not just suicide.

 

This is another reason why you ought to be careful about how you construct this philosophy. See, if people truly believe what you say, the might blow themselves up together with others for Jihad.

And then what do you do as a teacher? You say "No no, this is bad PR, this is wrong! When I said everything is Good and Perfect, I actually meant you should behave morally because it's stupid to behave immorally!". Are you sure?

See, because you are contradicting yourself, if someone truly believes what you say with actual conviction, he will laugh at you, as Connor does at Leo when he tries to tell him what he is doing is "bad". Clearly in one moment you say it's bad and in the other you say it's Perfection. You tell him whatever fits your agenda. And he will clearly see this if he truly and fully is convinced that reality is perfection, or that it is a dream, or anything else.

 

See, if reality is a dream, every excuse for why you should not torture someone goes out the window. You can pretend like this is not the case, but it is.

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3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Harikrishnan it doesn't seem like that to me 

It seems REAL.

Nobody will play such games.

If its real am sorry for the loss. my prayers and love to the family. @SoonHeiRest in peace.


I will be waiting here, For your silence to break, For your soul to shake,              For your love to wake! Rumi

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@Nahm  NAHM, SoonHei was an adult and is responsible for the action he took. I am just presenting what happened and sharing screenshots of his discussion as I found them. I have been on this forum on and off since he died trying to understand WHY he did this to his family. He literally had your name on his dreamboard as well. He trusted your guidance. 

Edited by SoonHei

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11 minutes ago, SoonHei said:

Sunny's conversation with NAHM

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That explains a lot. This is just misunderstanding of spirituality. The mind played him, lost in concepts.

 

Sorry for your loss.

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