winterknight

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31 minutes ago, winterknight said:

Yes, it might be confusing and uncomfortable. "something that isn't there" is just a thought -- and it's not true. You are. It's just that you're not what you think you are. 

You have the feeling of the I. As long as you feel that you are, focus on that feeling and attempt to hold it. Try and try and try -- with as much effort as you can -- for however long it takes before you get clarity.

it makes me wanna jump of a cliff; am I doing it right? :)

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I just don't know how to "hold a feeling". It seems like a unsolvable puzzle to me...

So something is aware of things. That is the "I" I guess. Ah I give up, thanks anyway

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4 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

I just don't know how to "hold a feeling". It seems like a unsolvable puzzle to me...

So something is aware of things. That is the "I" I guess. Ah I give up, thanks anyway

Im curious, why are you trying to hold the "i" feeling? 

that awareness that "i am" is always there in the background correct? maybe he means bring it to the foreground 

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@DrewNows  I was told to focus on the I and hold it as long as possible

Yes, the "I am" feeling is in the background so to speak. I am struggling with the language and how it translates into action ie im not sure what I need to do as there is no object of focus

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@Sashajyes words/concepts are misleading. Only a mind can focus and divide subject and object. What is it exactly you are trying to figure out? :)

The question: Do I exist? if so, can you answer me this: 

Where is the "i" that is you, which does not exist? 

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11 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

@Sashajyes words/concepts are misleading. Only a mind can focus and divide subject and object. What is it exactly you are trying to figure out? :)

The question: Do I exist? if so, can you answer me this: 

Where is the "i" that is you, which does not exist? 

The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next

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5 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next

If this doesn't appeal to you, the other possibility is to just drop all thoughts. Stop thinking.


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23 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next

Good but what is the purpose of all this? What exactly are you seeking to accomplish? 

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15 minutes ago, winterknight said:

If this doesn't appeal to you, the other possibility is to just drop all thoughts. Stop thinking.

Well thats even harder. Thanks anyway

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2 minutes ago, Jkris said:

@DrewNows to drop that i feeling or sense of me. 

thank you but what purpose does it serve to “hold onto the feeling of i am” if it is simply going to be dropped? 

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4 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

Well thats even harder. Thanks anyway

If you find both too difficult, that is actually perfectly understandable. I'd advise following the path I set out here -- which includes getting an intellectual framework and quieting your mind, mainly by focusing on your psychology, all before getting too much into self-inquiry.


Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self

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4 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Good but what is the purpose of all this? What exactly are you seeking to accomplish? 

To become untangled from all the thought illusions

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@DrewNows what ever brought to awareness repeatedly vanishes or the mind which thinks the i am the body takes the i feeling to be me which is not the case. The problem of mistaken or wrong identity. 

This is my theoretical understanding of the process. 

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11 minutes ago, winterknight said:

If you find both too difficult, that is actually perfectly understandable. I'd advise following the path I set out here -- which includes getting an intellectual framework and quieting your mind, mainly by focusing on your psychology, all before getting too much into self-inquiry.

I have had decades of seeking to no avail. This is all misery, I think within a few weeks I will end it all. Its been a trying process

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11 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

To become untangled from all the thought illusions

Ohhhh. Why don’t you explore thought/self? 

 

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1 minute ago, DrewNows said:

Ohhhh. Why don’t you explore thought/self? 

 

I have explored ad nauseam

I just want it all to end, to be free of all this shit that is "life"

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10 minutes ago, Jkris said:

@DrewNows what ever brought to awareness repeatedly vanishes or the mind which thinks the i am the body takes the i feeling to be me which is not the case. The problem of mistaken or wrong identity. 

This is my theoretical understanding of the process. 

I understand this but that sense of I am is not limited to the body, only the mind ties it. 

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