winterknight

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to admire the beauty of consciousness, to use creativity to solve the worlds problems, to make some money and survive, to give my life a immaterial purpose, to challenge myself, to discover higher potentials within me, to make a career out of helping others, to create a hero's journey, to show others that life can be more than just getting a 9-5 job, to create purpose for other, or to help them find purpose in their lives, to work in a team to create ,to find practical solutions, to start up a business envoking high values, to motivate others, to enjoy my life, to find a sense of fulfillment, to do something with my life 

these are the reasons on which my life purpose is built 

is this egoic? because enlightenment shows that nothing is wrong and that instead i should be focusing on purifying myself and having a direct experience of nothingness/ finding the "I" in self inquiry and putting this first instead of going on a wild goose chase, this is the question i find that leads me to ask myself am i in the right or wrong to pursue a life purpose

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28 minutes ago, Aeris said:

how egoic do you feel your topic is on a scale of /100 points

Square root of -2

28 minutes ago, Aakash said:

to admire the beauty of consciousness, to use creativity to solve the worlds problems, to make some money and survive, to give my life a immaterial purpose, to challenge myself, to discover higher potentials within me, to make a career out of helping others, to create a hero's journey, to show others that life can be more than just getting a 9-5 job, to create purpose for other, or to help them find purpose in their lives, to work in a team to create ,to find practical solutions, to start up a business envoking high values, to motivate others, to enjoy my life, to find a sense of fulfillment, to do something with my life 

these are the reasons on which my life purpose is built 

is this egoic? because enlightenment shows that nothing is wrong and that instead i should be focusing on purifying myself and having a direct experience of nothingness/ finding the "I" in self inquiry and putting this first instead of going on a wild goose chase, this is the question i find that leads me to ask myself am i in the right or wrong to pursue a life purpose

"Enlightenment" will show that the question of whether to pursue a life purpose or not is itself an imaginary one. The idea that there is someone who is deciding these things is an egoic view.

But anyhow, like I said before, do what you want. If you really want to pursue a life purpose, you will do that anyway. and there are ways to do work non-egoically (look up karma yoga).

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30 minutes ago, Aakash said:

to admire the beauty of consciousness, to use creativity to solve the worlds problems, to make some money and survive, to give my life a immaterial purpose, to challenge myself, to discover higher potentials within me, to make a career out of helping others, to create a hero's journey, to show others that life can be more than just getting a 9-5 job, to create purpose for other, or to help them find purpose in their lives, to work in a team to create ,to find practical solutions, to start up a business envoking high values, to motivate others, to enjoy my life, to find a sense of fulfillment, to do something with my life 

these are the reasons on which my life purpose is built 

is this egoic? because enlightenment shows that nothing is wrong and that instead i should be focusing on purifying myself and having a direct experience of nothingness/ finding the "I" in self inquiry and putting this first instead of going on a wild goose chase, this is the question i find that leads me to ask myself am i in the right or wrong to pursue a life purpose

Let me add that the entire notion that purifying yourself is somehow opposed to a life purpose, that it's one or the other, is also wrong. It is neither opposed to it nor in support of it.

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@winterknight most certainly what i wanted to hear, i think its tricky for young people who haven't discovered the I because it is the next best thing. i think even if i argue against it, its something i must pursue to know for myself. i just wanted to know whether truly it was imaginary or not. 

but for an unenlightened person it has to be one or the other, its either become enlightened or pursue something of desire. 

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Do you think there is a need to take a break from self inquiry as i go back and forth from that peace of real I, sometimes i think that my body needs rest. 

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18 hours ago, SriBhagwanYogi said:

Do you think there is a need to take a break from self inquiry as i go back and forth from that peace of real I, sometimes i think that my body needs rest. 

What is it that thinks inquiry is so much work? Is it actually work to just be as you are? What is it that is trying so hard? Is that you?

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10 hours ago, winterknight said:

No, it doesn't. Enlightenment has nothing to do with freedom to shape and mold your personality; it is the recognition that you are not your personality.

So how would you shape and mold your personality? When you’re enlightened, like if u wanted to teach people, and have an influence, you would need to become more charismatic, assertive, trustable and so on... 

how would u go about that after enlightenment?

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5 hours ago, Mezanti said:

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So how would you shape and mold your personality? When you’re enlightened, like if u wanted to teach people, and have an influence, you would need to become more charismatic, assertive, trustable and so on... 

how would u go about that after enlightenment?

"Now that I've realized I don't exist, how would that help me lose weight and look better?"


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xD i get it, but why do anything if you don't exist, why come here on this forum?  you want to help people, and you replying to me is living proof of that!

wouldn't you want to become more charismatic (not saying youre not, i do not know you personally) so you could reach and help out more people?

kind of like what leo has done.

 

 

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@winterknight Sorry if you already answered this (didn´t find when I searched)
What is you view on psychedlics as a helping tool for enlightenment work?
Have you tried them? before / after you enlightenment?

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6 hours ago, Mezanti said:

@winterknight

xD i get it, but why do anything if you don't exist, why come here on this forum?  you want to help people, and you replying to me is living proof of that!

wouldn't you want to become more charismatic (not saying youre not, i do not know you personally) so you could reach and help out more people?

kind of like what leo has done.

Right, but the real point is that enlightenment is to realize all this forum stuff is nothing but the Self. So there is no question of "using" that knowledge to try to change it. There is no one there to use it.

All the forum stuff just -- happens. Enlightenment is not some power that can be used to further that work. It is the knowledge that the whole shebang is just a puff of smoke.


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4 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

@winterknight Sorry if you already answered this (didn´t find when I searched)
What is you view on psychedlics as a helping tool for enlightenment work?
Have you tried them? before / after you enlightenment?

Yes, I have tried them before and after. In my experience I think they can be useful for giving some glimpses of the truth (and they're really cool), but I think regardless of them, one has to do the work in non-psychedelic states.


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@winterknight  I mean that , if emotions are created solely by our minds like some tool to act in the world , an enlightened being , whom don't have any unconcious emotions , have the capacity to create ( like the self-concept that is created conciously by any enlightened being for practical purposes ) emotions when they perceive as necessary for some purpose ? 

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16 hours ago, winterknight said:

What is it that thinks inquiry is so much work? Is it actually work to just be as you are? What is it that is trying so hard? Is that you?

Its hard to focus on I behind body mind, life story for longer period.... 

I know that even effort is seen happening in me but i guess identifications will fade over time

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2 hours ago, tecladocasio said:

@winterknight  I mean that , if emotions are created solely by our minds like some tool to act in the world , an enlightened being , whom don't have any unconcious emotions , have the capacity to create ( like the self-concept that is created conciously by any enlightened being for practical purposes ) emotions when they perceive as necessary for some purpose ? 

No. These kinds of expectations being enlightened will give you special powers over your psychology or over the world are obstacles.

2 hours ago, SriBhagwanYogi said:

Its hard to focus on I behind body mind, life story for longer period.... 

I know that even effort is seen happening in me but i guess identifications will fade over time

Your "knowing" that effort is happening in your is obviously not enough. You don't believe it. If you did, it wouldn't be a problem.

So who is it that finds it hard to focus? That's what you have to hammer on... over and over... be intense and find that out, period... 

yes, the identifications will "fade" only if you find out who is identifying with those identifications.


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6 minutes ago, winterknight said:

special powers

Anger is not a special power ... it is impossible for you to feel anger ?

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44 minutes ago, tecladocasio said:

Anger is not a special power ... it is impossible for you to feel anger ?

If anger is felt, it is felt by the mind and body. The question is whether that mind and body is you.


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13 hours ago, SriBhagwanYogi said:

Its hard to focus on I behind body mind, life story for longer period.... 

I know that even effort is seen happening in me but i guess identifications will fade over time

Let me say one more thing, which is that you can also just surrender.... just totally relax, drop all desires for anything to be other than what they are right this second. That is a method that is equal in power to self-inquiry -- in fact, on leads to the other.


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