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Gita's pretty good in my opinion. And the Upinashads of course. I REALLY think ancient Indians used DMT or Ayahuasca brews. Most of my psychedelic visions on n,n-DMT, aside from jesters (which didn't exist irl then, so weren't an archetype in anyone's mind), were of Hindu deities. Chicken or egg type thing, I suspect the drug came first... As in those ancient Indians took the drugs and saw the same apparitions and that's why this occurs. Probably what "Soma" is. I think the Tao Te Ching is crap realistically. I think it's one of those things that: 1. People want to pretend makes sense, because it sounds deep and mystical, and they wanna act like it's not nonsense words. And 2. Typical Asian vocab is very different and used differently. This is very obvious with Buddhist philosophy, the way they use terms is very alien to the way the same terms are used in the West. And many authors interpret it as though it means what a Westerner would think a certain line means.

Yes, i know that. The direct experience is existence and that is what I am, it becomes obvious at that moment, but here the problem arises, or both problems. First, within that experience there is an apparent self with a body and other apparent bodies. if I prick my body, a sensation of pain appears. if I puncture other bodies, no pain appears. this is the first trap. the second is that in this present moment things are coming up all the time. sensations, objects, changes, and I am not aware of producing all this, it is something alien to me. this is trap two. These two traps necessarily make you fall into duality, and that is why it is so difficult to get out of the trap. Right now I know all this and I have seen it clearly many times, but still, I am delusional, since it is designed very well for this purpose. I Know some tricks that i use to get out of the deception, that are drugs or meditation. I do because it's useful to minimize the suffering and because i like a lot the freedom that the now really is.

Warning: Loooong rambling ahead! The deception is what I call (at least for me) Separate-Self-arisings (I-thoughts, I-feeling), that arise with a very high frequency in Oneself (True Self/Reality). That leads to the world appearances manifesting as "external" and "solid/not hologram-like mere appearances". Et voila, the magic show! When one spots them fast enough (separate self arisings) and is familiar with them, and doesn't get captured by them (in my opinion the goal of meditation), the visual field at some point becomes nondual, mere appearance, lucid/hologram-like, hovering in Infinite Nothingness. Then, there is no more deception, since it doesn't "grip". Nothing the "separate self can throw at you" is believed anymore. It just runs/appears in True You/Reality, but is no longer to believed to be more real than mere arising in True You/Reality. Perceptions perceiving themselves in You/Reality, and some practical mind-stream-stuff of the human you have (not are, but have) running in True You/Reality. As long as any of it is still believed, and not transcended as objects/movements/arisings in the True You, one doesn't cross over to the other shore. 3% of still "gripping" and not transcended separate self arisings (very very subtle ones at the end, just mere "Individuality") prevents the full Realization of ones True Identity. They all have to "go". It is like the mindstream runs in oneself, and doesn't capture ones attention. Nothing of it. The mindfulness stays, it is all a magic show. There is no more "external" world, just a magic show of hologram like lucid appearances, hovering in Infinite Nothingness. Suffering (psychological suffering, or resistance to what is here and now) has stopped at that point. Then, it all becomes a magic show. It is totally clear what the essence of the magic show/movie is. Nothingness. without suffering. Sure, the Magic Show is a deception/Illusion. But what else is there to do for the True You? The Real You can not gain or loose ever. But it can manifest the show. And just a disclaimer/warning, because I write very freely from the absolute side of the street, tending to ignore the relative side of the street while writing this way: When you start to think while the separate self is still intact, that you can not gain or loose ever: Well, Maya will give one a nice smack demonstrating that one (as the separate self) can very well suffer, grow and develop, loose and gain. Karma is well and alive when the separate self is not fully transcended). That leads automatically to appreciation of the beauty of the show. Appreciation of the beauty of manifestation. With a certain preference of being interested in all these mechanisms. But being interested not in a grasping way, like suffering when one doesn't get to understand it, but more like: Hey let's go for a walk, and if it rains we don't, and do something else. No big deal anyway.... If there is no appreciation of the Illusion/Show, but disgust/horror/discontentment/anything other than marveling at/with the state of things, I would assume there is still a separate self active/not transcended, that then resists/suffers. I personally find the investigation/exploration of the Multiverse, trying to understand the manifestation mechanism, Alien-anything quite interesting. But it no way leads to me grasping to the beauty and bliss of these experiences of understanding or exploring. If something like that would show up in my mindstream, a reaction would arise like: All nice and well, interesting for sure, but starting egoic/separate self-suffering or grasping for it, no way I am doing that, would be rather not so smart. and lead to suffering/resisting, and shutting down the Endohuasca-System (below).... and that would be it (grasping stopped). Selling Water by the River Some Quotes from Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown "once you have eradicated all the pain from the mind": "Tashi Namgyel calls the two stages prior to experiencing enlightenment recognizing awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] and setting up awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] . One-taste yoga establishes the foundation for awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] to emerge. In non-meditation yoga the practitioner: ...proceeds from the perspective of having seen the benefit of the aforementioned [special] samadhi. Generate a fervent desire for this [awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] ] to increase and continue once you have eradicated all the pain from the mind." Tashi Namgyal, in Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown "The commentary merely alludes to these changes withthe brief passage from Gampopa, "once you have eradicated all the pain from the mind" (TN, p. 5oo).These and other changes, however, are described in much greater detail in the oral tradition, especially by Rechung.'" Rechung says that the practitioner "unties the chakra knots that prevent the full experience of mental and divine bliss, respectively." [the Endohuasca-System of the Body, at least in my theory, see https://dmtquest.org/endohuasca-magic/ ] Attachment (zhar ba) is transmuted into great enjoyment (dga 'chen).The practitioner finds great bliss (bde chen) simply from experiencing ordinary phenomena as they arise in their own way. The natural spontaneity of the mind is freed. Bliss replaces misery." Tashi Namgyal, in Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown That is how at least developed for me. And the end of the game: "According to Tilopa, such uninterrupted, effortless mindfulness finds no refuge (gtad so) in any particular events of the mind because of their inherent emptiness/clarity, so that awareness-itself turns back on itself and naturally crosses over [to Enlightenment]" "In short, crossing over [to Enlightenment] happens at the time when every single sensory experience—appearance and thought—are viewed as clarity/emptiness and movement/emptiness with absolute certainty." [not 1% of the separate self still untranscended/not cut off/still believed] "Tashi Namgyel's root text explains how nonmeditation yoga ripens in three stages: At the lowest level, it becomes possible to maintain undistracted mindfulness of the simultaneous mind [simultaneous mind = nondual] at any time, so that it is unnecessary to limit the practice to formal meditation sessions. Seeming appearances arise "like a mirage." [mere luminous appearances hovering in Nothingness]. At the middle level,awareness-mindfulness continues day and night. The subtlest flow of shapes that arise is the mind's self-illumination. At the highest level, awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] stays even throughout all these subtle forms [not 1% of the separate self still untranscended/not cut off/still believed, including any feelings/thoughts of Individuality/being separate from the Totality/Reality]. Continuous awakened wisdom/[awakened awareness] in the face of everything experienced is great nonmeditation. (TN, p. 697) I highly recommend the book, it is truly awesome. It is a synthesizing text of the Mahamudra-Tradition, quoting many books of the tradition and integrating them.

This post relies upon you understanding nonduality correctly from a higher level view. All words are pointers to actual things, that are interchangeable, but still retain their original identity. Classical nonduality is incorrect Alien God is incorrect God is never Alien I will later make posts that are more in-depth as in regards to this Alien God exists in fiction which is an experiential dimension as real as this in Reality which nobody on Earth has access to yet, I have had some access to this dimension, but not properly yet. It has esoteric meaning hidden in it, but God is never literally an Alien hiding out of terror. God has no fear and no terror or error Nonduality is basic Infinity is higher than Nonduality Absolute Infinity is higher than Infinity Solipsism is higher than Absolute Infinity Absolute Solipsism is higher than Solipsism Infinity of Gods is higher than Absolute Solipsism Qualified Nonduality is higher than Infinity of Gods Transcendental Solipsism is higher than Qualified Nonduality There are millions of levels that are higher than Transcendental Solipsism, but I am not aware of all of them yet God is higher than Transcendental Solipsism, by a lot of levels Jumala ia higher than God, and it is the highest level there is, and it means God in finnish but its actually not only equivalent to God, but also higher than it Nonduality doesn't contain suffering, so none of the higher levels can either This post relies on understanding that translations have different meanings. All words do not mean the same thing literally, everything retains their own original identity Transcendental Solipsism >= Absolute Solipsism This equation of More than and Equal is what I am trying to convey in this post, I will also make a post about this equation later, it relates to a finnish concept that I invented called Ylikantaisuus that has no english equivalent on this Earth yet, I will also make a post about it later This equation of >= Is Ylikantaisuus at a superficial glance, but Ylikantaisuus ends at Jumala, so the Equation for it is 1>=, Because God is One Due to Qualified Nonduality I cannot translate this word correctly Transcendental Solipsism contains a Male-Female pair for everybody, Reincarnation, Physical Immortality, Understanding that Suffering and Evil are not real, Understanding Self-Design, and so on in it, but also everything from Absolute Solipsism and so on It also contains all religions as correct in it, it contains attainable Nirvana and Moksha, it contains God-Realization, it contains all the deep stuff that leo talks about Transcendental Solipsism has reconciled Buddhism and Absolute Solipsism, and there is zero miscommunication, disagreement, conflict, or inability to be reconciled Transcendental Solipsism contains fiction dimensions, Absolute Love, Absolute Truth and more Absolute Love is better than Absolute Truth, but equal to it, and Absolute Love generates more Absolute Truth I will later make better posts about everything that I talk about here I cannot articulate Transcendental Solipsism properly yet, but qualified nonduality has been articulated before on Earth, and it is in truth at a higher level of understanding than Absolute Solipsism Try not to merge my words into one concept, but understand their connections instead I recommend reading about Vishishtadvaita as it has a deep understanding of Qualified Nonduality, which actually includes Absolute Solipsism in it

More than a mind what we are is the present moment, which is unlimited and and things arise in it, so it seems like a mind. you can recognize yourself as the infinite present in things or in immutability, since they are qualitatively the same: the infinite now. The thing is that the infinite immutable void is simple, obvious. It fills your heart, it's pure joy, whatever you want, I agree. but things get complicated when the infinite, that is, you, starts to create its structures. what are these structures? you can see it? do not intellectualize it or go to other sources, look at it directly. you cannot understand it, it is very difficult, a lot of distraction prevents it. but if you do psychedelics, the structures open up, they show what they are to a certain extent. understanding occurs (in some extent). if you want to understand someone, watch what they do. the same for god. This is impossible without psychedelics and here comes Leo with his alien mind. do you think he's crazy? It is not like this. But i agree with you, there is the absolute vs the relative only is you consider the relative the history of the mind, the meaning, the movie in which we live, and the absolute the present in the absence of it. that is, without the appearance of a character that evolves over time. That doesn't mean that it's empty, forms always arises , but they are the absolute

@RebornConsciousness Yeah, gender dysphoria is a real issue these trans people do face, it's similarly to those who have schizophrenia and suffer from some forms of hallucinations, visual/auditory, but in the case of gender dysphoria it's very specific to one's self awareness and self image, that they body they're born into doesn't feel like the right body. It's like you're an alien or some spirit, but trapped into the wrong body, in terms of sexuality which can be a jarring experience that most people take for granted. This is also why it's important that science takes this a bit more seriously and do some more research, and collect information and see the ratio of in born gender dysphoria versus gender dysphoria/transgenderism caused by peer pressure and conformity, the implications of which should be taken very seriously because if the majority of going trans and going through treatment is ideologically driven more than in born, then we've emasculated and confused children far more in their earlier development because they're looking to their parents as examples of masculinity and femininity, the father and mother figures in their lives that informs them of the Animus and Anima (Carl Jung's Architypes and shadow work). There are ways to try and increase empathy and understanding for those with gender dysphoria, one of them is definitely a bad trip specifically with the self image distorting into something else it is not, that type of bad tripping is accurate to gender dysphoria. Side note, Mr. Girl has stated his opinion that gender dysphoria is mostly not real and is psychological, I'll say that it's still a serious issue that needs to be resolved within the person suffering the gender dysphoria.

7 hours ago, FlyingMan said: As long as you want to learn FROM him, he's your best friend. But criticize him, or point out his self-deception, and you're the asshole. I think it's pretty damn obvious though. I have a similiar feeling as Moksha. There are a lot of teachings in the spiritual marketplace that declare halfway up the mountain as the peak (a lot of Buddhism also, I would estimate a much larger share than 90%), and he had to distance himself against these teachings. Like with the no-person/no-self stuff (and even Nonduality is often misunderstood, and can be achieved way before final realization) that doesn't go all the way. Its tricky trick business, and putting the finer points in language is a daunting taks, since the state/stage descriptions are often used differently. So lets see if he can translate his realizations and awakenings into a stable basis. I hope he gets stable access to the bliss&love of his True Core. He would more than deserve it. And lets hope the movies they will once make about the first really serious psychonauts and the first encounters with non-human alien intelligences (fascinating book on that with some working hypothesis on these topics, like DMT-IV: Reality Switch Technologies: Psychedelics as Tools for the Discovery and Exploration of New Worlds, Gallimore) will include a happy ending, at least when it comes to Leo. Water by the River

Psychedelics are awesome when done together with meditation. I believe that efficient meditation systems (like for example Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown), explained in an efficient way, plus Psychedelics (but with coaching from somebody who has walked the path to the end and knows the traps) is the future. Where there is potential, there are (as ususal) also risks and traps. Let's look at Wilbers perspective on the risks and downsides: Main Points from Wilber: The downside comes with people that only use psychedelics or drugs and I found that over the years they just become mean. That somehow it just kind of closes them down it's like you keep doing it and you keep doing it you keep doing it doesn't quite cause the transformation. It can cause a peak experience but generally not a transformative experience and some people like David data will say that you know for altered changes of state to contribute to transformation permanent transformation it has to be basically in endogenous and not exogenous it has to be has your own. See my Endohuasca-Theory and Links to it above. The people that do use both and use it as a sacrament I think an enormous bit out of it. My personal opinion: When you think that the meditation path to make it permanent is not doable for you (for whatever excuse, like genetics) , or seems to unpleasant, maybe you use an inefficient meditation system. Try the one a mentioned above (Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown). I get no roalties or kick-back-paymanents by the way, just love the method/system Agreed, most meditation system on the market have an abysmal "success" rate of Enlightened Ones. But there are some really good ones also. And non of these efficient systems have used Psychedelics + good coaching on top. That is where I believe is the future. Exploring the Multiverse is all nice and important and a wonderful pioneering effort. But as soon as you draw your love/happiness out of the sublime beautiful experiences/understandings, you are playing the same samsaric game of every unenlightened sentient being chasing good emotions to avoid suffering, the usual merry-go-round-cycle. But on a very high level, with quite a show . When psychedelics boost the narcissm/grandiosity of the separate self, well: Best regards from Maya, she just loves you too much to let you go... If you can be "gaslit" on any realization from psychedelics and need to put your foot down: Well, probably the realization of your True Identity (Reality itself) is a bit shaky, or a bit preliminary. The Real Thing can't be shaken. Because You are It, like in "never can not be It". And if you dragged home an alien from I don't know where, and feel like you have become the special-alien-of the day, maybe check if you have received a very seductive love-letter from Maya herself, and consider ordering the Men in Black for the Alien, together with their Flashthing/Neuralyzer that can make you forget: https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/Neuralyzer And maybe that Neuralyzer makes you full empty, makes you get rid of the last filters of the separate self, which are just a very very empty, already nondual/mere appearance "feeling" of individuality, a vastly intelligent, potentially "alien" nondual nothing, understanding a lot of the mechanisms of God and the Universe, but still a nothing with the last filter attached to it: Individuality-Arisings (in Wilbers wording, the Transparent Witness, see Religion of the Future), "seeing/looking at" a vast mere appearance Multiverse hovering in Nothingness. So not fully empty yet. And that is the "last few percentage clouds" blocking stable realization, or the sudden Full Enlightenment. Because if the last filters/elements of the separate self go, you can sustain the realization/bliss sobre in daily life.... . Because, if you understood/got rid of all separate self filters IN the psychedelic state, why shouldn't you be able to keep that Realization in daily life? The world gets a shimmering lucid hologram like imagined appearance-illusion-show when you have engaged your Endohuasca-System, which is done with getting rid off these last separate-self elements, see my previous post. At least my experience, and that of countless others in the history of mankind. Why should exactly the Psychedelic-Aficionado not be able to do that? No Endohuasca-system? Well, the receptors in the body seem to be working just fine... Or maybe a different Buddha-Nature? Sorry, just kidding... And if there is no Neuralyzer around, maybe try an efficient meditation system, get to the last stages of Nonmeditation-Yoga (spontaneous automized meditation without a doer still active) And after having used the Neuralyzer or an efficient meditation system, after having looked deeply into the Empty Abyss of your own True Nature/Nothingness, when you are really everything because you are really totally Nothingness (with no 5% clouds remaining), maybe then go hunt for the alien again. But this time, not for getting the love and sweetness of Understanding-experiences or whatever to break the cycle of suffering, but to express the bliss and love of your True Nature that you have then 24/7 going on from your own core. And if one feels gaslit about what I have just written, see the point above: "If you can be "gaslit" on any realization from psychedelics and need to put your foot down: Well, probably the realization of your True Identity (Reality itself) is a bit shaky, or a bit preliminary. The Real Thing can't be shaken. Because You are It, like in never can not be It." And if in doubt: Call these gentlemen, let them take care of the Aliens, look at the Neuralyzer/Flashthing, and get fully empty. But still, the Psychedelic pioneers, facing the unknowns of the Multiverse, exploring Alien intelligences, some even catching an Alien beast or two and dragging them home, going alone boldly to where no one has gone before, facing dangers that nobody else faced before... If there is some material for the movies of the future looking back to our time, where if not there is the true hero's journey to be found... I just hope that they get back from the trips, integrate their experience, get their mindstream awakened all the time, and live happily realized ever after, radiating the love of their own True Being, and maybe even getting the roalties from the upcoming movies of the Psychedelic Heros Journey based on their biography! Bon voyage! In the meantime, It’s for sure one of the most interesting shows on this planet to be seen. At least, it for sure has my attention! Respectfully Yours & mind the possibility of the Bear Manoeuvre in the signature-link below Selling Water by the River

I feel like God is Everything and Alien Intelligence is understanding Nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sounds like you are refering that Alien Intelligence as something Other. Anyway, you just re-named God as Alien Intelligence.

You are imagining a life of an alien living on some distant planet. Like, literally right now. You are simply just not conscious enough to understand. It is possible, though. Contemplate this.

Understanding is sononym of raising your consciousness. the walls are not such, they are simply your reach with a certain level of consciousness. people tend to believe that there is an ego mode vs an enlightened mode, and it is not like that, there is a gradual rise in your level of consciousness or understanding of reality. it is normal to reach a level where you feel bliss and silence and think: well, this is it, I have arrived. this is narrow minded imo. understanding is pure beauty, when you realize it's possible, you want more. I don't know about alien that Leo talk about, but he is completely right when he puts understanding above all else.

It's not alien consciousness. Stones don't experience anything at all. That's what I was thinking too.

@Thought Art I agree with this perspective, because there's an order of operations, hierarchy and sequence of events that sometimes need to be acknowledged at least, and sometimes maintained. I also see this issue with capitalism versus communism and socialism, to me it's important that a country has at least implemented capitalistic economies first, secure good regulated markets and a trade system of imports and exports, before we implement socio economics modals. We can't just skip capitalism completely and the means of production and business and commerce and expect that we end up having a flourishing altruistic socialism based country, you need securities beforehand for not just selfishness from other foreign countries but also selfishness in different parts of the system. Similar with the transgender issue, a person must master being feminine and masculine, good mix of qualities from both, grounded, before going full trans, at the very least to think carefully before going the full transformation. Of course, many assumptions being made here, and I'm oversimplifying the complicated processes of the person and other psychological issues, which is why we need that report of the ratio of transgender ideology versus innate gender dysphoria. Maybe our future going forward in humanity, is radical transhumanism, maybe we evolve to be hermaphrodites via gene modifications and cybernetics and alien DNA splicing? Who knows.

I’ll take Alien Consciousness over human consciousness any day. But maybe I’m biased (:

I didn’t need mushrooms or 5-MeO. Good for you!! I am not assuming that I don't know what Alien Consciousness is. I know that I don't know what it is. The only knowledge I have is what Leo mentioned in his post and his poetic description. And on that basis I am comparing my psychedelic experiences with his. Dude Ta-Da doesn't work just anywhere.

I didn’t need mushrooms or 5-MeO. But you do what you gotta do! Also notice how you are comparing your psychedelic experiences with Alien Consciousness, even though you assume that you don’t know what Alien Consciousness is. Ta-Da!

But I am in a rush! Listening to you and all others' experiences. Does anyone has experience with high dose mushroom trips? How is it compared to 5 Meo? I did shrooms once and acid few times and it was always mind-blowing and great. But nothing like Alien Consciousness.

Thankyou ?? This is inspiring! I am willing to. What is Alien Consciousness? Are you talking about the same thing that Leo made the post about? That was some real crazy stuff. And that poetic description he shared - what the fuck? Just reading it was very awakening.

You literally… literally have to drop all your human ideas. I’m not kidding. Alien Consciousness.

Compared to Alien Consciousness, Absolutely.

If the Absolute is Absolute, then it is not only beyond witness and witnessed. It’s also the witness and the witnessed. Paradoxically, there are higher states of consciousness in which your identity transcends human consciousness. You no longer merely experience. There is both story and no story simultaneously, beyond time. You are EVERYTHING. Perhaps this is what Leo means by Alien Consciousness, but who tf knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Take what I’m saying with a grain of salt.

Wrong. Alien consciousness is everything.

Of course it’s hard to talk about. The only way to truly understand Alien Consciousness is to BE Alien Consciousness. It’s like trying to explain algebra to a 5 year old More intimate than any human connection you’ve ever had in your lifetime.

5:39 - holy moly. sounds like Alien Consciousness