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Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful response. I must admit in retrospect I wasn’t very careful with my words, I didn’t intend a blanket statement of all forum users rather it was aimed at the significant proportion of users that clearly are unbalanced and at risk of a psychotic episode. Up until now I have only been an observer of this forum and please Leo if you read this do know that you have changed my life, I adore your work and I’ve followed your content for many years now. however recently there has been a lot of talk of insanity, alien consciousness and alien insanity and Leo seems to be drumming up excitement around these ideas. Leo is a veteran user of these substances and I assume that most people that read this forum are not. Even Leo has quoted in the past that he was awake at night suffering from multiple alien awakenings, how many people here are going to have the mental resilience to handle that without it negatively affecting there lives? there is nothing fun or to be gained from insanity, I’m a mental health professional and I see people frequently that have been triggered by recreational drugs into psychotic episode and yes this includes psychedelic use. again I apologise if I offended anyone here it’s just if even one person here ruins there whole life by triggering a latent mental illness and that could be avoided then surely any offence caused pales in comparison in severity to the life that’s been ruined.

And hey! you can actually contact that Ultimately Reality that I'm speaking off. It is just not what you think it is. Those insights Buddhists speak of constitute the very nature of that ultimate reality and you can be conscious of them right now! Not via alien awakenings or having bombastic conscious experiences that veer one's constuctions further into 'I'm a being that is omniscient (first of all, all sense of separation is an illusion so you cant even be a 'being' so to speak) AND can control 'reality' (which again implies duality) directly via getting even more conscious' etc. It is easy to slip into that mode when the very experiences that your mind constructs in psychedelics is very convincing. But there is such a thing as a 'mistaken insight' You misinterpret it and reach the wrong conclusion through the same experiences. So don't put psychedelics on a pedestal and think 'it is 100% the truth downloading to your consciousness' or whatever. Sure it is very close to that actually but there is a significant chance of misinterpretation still Especially when you are so attached to said experiences for your entire spiritual development like Leo.

Well just keep going in your own dream analogy. You realize that 'Arthagoaan' fella is sleeping and is living in a different 'dimension' so to speak. My point is from your 'dream' landscape (while you are sleeping at night) is NOT all there is to reality. When you do wake up (both figuratively and literally in this case), you see that there is a new 'constructed' reality that INCLUDES your dream reality (Arthagon waking up from the dream as a person. Washing their face, living their lives). So that dream landscape ıs NOT all there is to reality. There is Ultimate Reality that FULLY includes and is one with your dream landscape but it is much larger and is NOT a part of 'ALL MIND' as subset. It is the higher order. A reality your mind CANT even access directly with your human brains even with the best pscyhedelics or meditations. Thats the insight into Emptiness and it truly is an eye opener. Especially considering Leo is extremely intoxicated with the idea that 'The conscious experiences are really important. They are all you know. There is NOTHING that is higher order than this. This is it!' sorta mindset. It is all the foundation that rests on his solipsistic and 'all mind' position. Not even realizing his alien awakenings are jus as unimportant as that coffee table and conscious experiences OVERALL are ultimately meaningless due to insight into emptiness and impermanence.

To me what you're saying is very important. I'm not addressing whether Leo is right or wrong in his response because Idk. I'm staying away from that, but what I will say, is your response to him sounds good on the surface and shows caring for how Leo responds to questions on the forum and the advice he gives in relation to how his forum following receive and implements those said advice. However, when you boldly make the claim that EVERYONE on the forum WILL take his advice whether directed to them or not is not a true statement and sounds "cult like". This is not a cult, and not everyone will take his advice and implement them. I'm not saying he doesn't give good and sound advice, what I'm saying is, remarks like that insinuates that we don't know how to think for ourselves, and maybe that is true for some but not for all. It is very important for me to say to you that I'm not trying to tell you how to respond to anyone and how you SHOULD express yourself however you choose, but what I can do is make the suggestion to you that it would probably be more effective and sound advice to say to us, not leo, in respect to the original advice he gave about the insanity issue for us not to take every advice from Leo and implement them because sometimes he can be wrong and for us to think about them ourselves and to use proper judgment in how we take advice from others because sometimes they may not be suited for everyone and may be applicable for some depending on your state of being and level of understanding and consciousness. Yes, he does have a responsibility and should be wary, as you say, for the advice he gives, but we also have a responsibility to teach ourselves how to think and to make decisions for ourselves because in the end it all lies on us to obtain the results we want to achieve. Personally, I do respect and listen to most of Leo's advice on certain issues, not all, because there are other areas of life and other people I can turn to if I believe they're more suitable for me in regards to advice I may need to help in my own decision making. To me, Leo is a genius, but then he's also human, even though he claims to not be and is now an alien. Don't quote me on that, though.

Yea spirituality misses SD yellow structure. It is so confusing. Why is it hard for a spiritual teaching to make a scale from most easy awakening to most difficult awakening? Like first understand non duality, than understand solipsism and then understand alien consciousness. I do believe there are overarching principles in spirituality. These need to be defined and put together for students. Otherwise it is just a mishmash of ideas. It is no wonder that human spirituality is in such a dire state.

The genius of being a genius is that nobody can understand what you're saying well enough to disprove it Gödel was just pointing out that even genius mathematicians can't agree on a common set of assumptions. So not only is the body of knowledge built on a shaky foundation of unprovable assumptions, but the foundation itself constantly shifts. In other words, Socrates was right about knowing that we know nothing. Absolute knowledge is only directly realized. It's beyond the capacity of any conceptual mind (human, alien, or god) to comprehend.

I thought your new course would be on alien consciousness ?

Human: make distinction between what’s good and bad. Alien: intuit what’s right given the contextless context.

And yet God could shapeshift from to Chimpanzee to Lizard to Alien Rat. ? ? Actively REPROGRAMMING one's DNA in Real-Time.

I want become an alien

Maybe he reached an alien state of BDSM and got alien levels of hardness.

Your quality of being is alien to that of a normie. You stand out even while blending in.

Maybe it’s some alien magic shit. Aliens shit red. I recommend seeing an alien doctor.

@OBEler No facts matters to the alien believers. They will twist anything in favor for aliens. It's the same kind of thing like flat earth believers reject all evidence that the earth is round.

I’ve never masturbated with my hand before, believe it or not. I’ve mentioned this to others, and nobody has an explanation as to why. Maybe I’m an alien.

Hey guys, it's been a while since i posted here. I kept reading, but was busy having them experiences, building up to that good life, working up the spiral to prepare for hopefully also penetrating to alien consciousness and beyond Anyway, there's no shortage of very dogmatic content around this subject, but here's a guy who stands out to me, i think what he's talking about is worth some digging into. Cheers guys, hope you're doing well

Nice perspective. It’s been a few days since that Alien Insanity post, and already I’m making the connection to my own personal life. I realize that I need to start family therapy soon, despite it being uncomfortable as hell dealing with people who have a completely different worldview than me.

This is a poetic sort of reflection on how my koan practice has evolved since starting three years ago. Each time you come back to the present moment, you go a little deeper.At first it's subtle but later it becomes more potent. The realization that form is free of thought, that you are free of thought, reveals itself. Then what is it? If it is not what I think it is, then what is it really? You turn and listen, but not with your ears only. You listen with all your senses, for a reply. What is it? Listen. A wonder reveals itself, thickening each time you listen. You realize that you are made out of it. The mystery you keep returning to, its your skin and bones. It is your feelings and thoughts. It is everything. Except your thoughts about it. And simultaneously, it is those too. What is it? Mu. It is mu. Mu. mu. mu. what is it? Listen. Mu. Listen. It is infinity! No, Mu. It is God! mu (no) It is being! mu. It is alien! It is beautiful! mu. Well then what is mu? Mu. Listen. Mu. Listen. It is - mu. Oh I know what it- Mu. Mu. Mu. Special state of consciousness appears. It is that! Mu (no) return. Mu. I get horny. Ooh I should have sex with my girlfriend. Mu. Not it. Mu. Mu. Mu becomes primary, the flow of events become secondary. Mu. Mu. Mu. Work and sleep. Mu. Crave and avert. Mu What is it? Deep feeling of mystery. Mu. (Disregarding it) Mu.

@Leo Gura I dont get why others get so triggered by someone being confrontational online. For me I am more curious about this Alien Cosncioussness course than offended by any word spoken in any tone. I ready have people speaking bullshit in the wrong tone in my life and it hurts to see, so for me to hear or read some crazy truth even if is shouting is a plus. Keep shouting, I am among one who are listening.

@BojackHorseman Traveling is so foundational to us and our every thought it seems impossible to think of an alternative. I was thinking well what if a alien had no concept of distance (space) or time? Its to radical. Traveling and time are concepts that only exist with a specific biology (human).

Clearly aliens could be operating on a way that we would never be able to conceive or understand. But when I say physical, there's no hidden meaning here. I'm talking about moving bodies as we know them in the materail world as we know it. So when you were saying aliens wouldn't need to travel in the same way we've been imaginating (ships, etc), my question was : ho would they travel then? If travelling is about being present on Earth. Maybe they could just sense lifeforms and "teleport" (to simplify) there, who knows. Maybe they can be at many places at once, maybe just having an image or an object from a planet allows them to be there tho. I don't really know and my imagination or scientific knowledge is less than childish, I'm really just trying to understand what other meant of travelling, aka going from one physical place to another, there could be, rather than the stereotypical alien ship travelling space.

What is that? What you can understand with your senses? Why would other life forms operate with "senses"? An alien would likely have a radically different paradigm then what we can understand.

This post made me laugh It's so angry it almost seems like some sort of trolling or experiment, I don't know. (Obvously I love what Leo is bringin in general, but as it is the case with people you know IRL even, you can love a person overall but still laugh or be surprised by things they say/think at times) Has this term of alien been brought up in Actualized's videos? What does this even mean, aliens as in, the conventional use, from outer space? Or could it mean something else.

imo Leo's insults towards rivers occurred because the latter, lately, made mocking allusions to the "alien" issue. Leo has a big sensitive ego, ohhh. He's not the most balanced guy in the world. As a human, it might be quite difficult, but as a mystic, I think it's on another level. but that's just my belief. At least he's authentic... or maybe not and he's playing to the eccentric master?? Nah, I think he's . In another hand, I'd say that rivers don't catch Leo's essence, he thinks he's getting crazy, overdosing psychedelic, lack of integration, etc, when Leo is not interested in any integration, he just want to go deeper. Let's see where he's arriving. He's a pioneer. If you want to understand Leo a bit, you should understand 5 meo

Lol alrighty, no more alien talk from me. Unless of course I get kidnapped by sexy 7 foot green alien babes.