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Even though I don't know what Leo means by that, I do know that I am weird which makes me an alien around people. ? Also, you too. The world is our lab and people are the rats.? It has certainly made me more philosophically minded. I don't know why the word rat is popular in this forum.? I guess, because I was absent for 2-3 months.

Bro exactly this ? For me it's so much nicer to function solo and not have a regular social circle. That way my interactions, even casual ones, stay very interesting and meaningful. Like every new social interaction is something to learn from, like I'm studying humans or something. Maybe I'm the alien Leo keeps talking about ?

Some day you'll say the same about alien intelligence and infinity of gods I do sincerely wish you the best.

Holy macaroni... as much as I love to watch a good old ideological mud slinging contest, can we all just agree to disagree? Here's an idea: Let us nondualists pursue freedom from conceptual thinking and egoic attachment, let Leo and his groupies take the psychedelic express train to Alien Insanity la la land, and everybody's happy. Sound good?

At least it prevented people from going "Alien Insane"

I agree. Awakening is realizing who you are, and for most people it happens over and over again. Enlightenment is remaining awake within the dream. Lucidity deepens the more you dissolve. @Water by the River The challenge of marketing spirituality is that you constantly have to oversell yourself. Your paycheck is only as good as your latest, most profound insight. What comes after nonduality > alien intelligence > infinity of gods? Instead of selling water by the river, teach people to draw living water from within themselves.

@Leo Gura Dude this word has been having me laughing for DAYS now ahhaha. Especially that one Insight post about Alien Insanity, the way you talk about "Non-dual Buddhist rats"

In the last two days I’m hearing weird noises in my house. I think it is alien consciousness trying to communicate with me but I don’t understand their language

Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful response. I must admit in retrospect I wasn’t very careful with my words, I didn’t intend a blanket statement of all forum users rather it was aimed at the significant proportion of users that clearly are unbalanced and at risk of a psychotic episode. Up until now I have only been an observer of this forum and please Leo if you read this do know that you have changed my life, I adore your work and I’ve followed your content for many years now. however recently there has been a lot of talk of insanity, alien consciousness and alien insanity and Leo seems to be drumming up excitement around these ideas. Leo is a veteran user of these substances and I assume that most people that read this forum are not. Even Leo has quoted in the past that he was awake at night suffering from multiple alien awakenings, how many people here are going to have the mental resilience to handle that without it negatively affecting there lives? there is nothing fun or to be gained from insanity, I’m a mental health professional and I see people frequently that have been triggered by recreational drugs into psychotic episode and yes this includes psychedelic use. again I apologise if I offended anyone here it’s just if even one person here ruins there whole life by triggering a latent mental illness and that could be avoided then surely any offence caused pales in comparison in severity to the life that’s been ruined.

And hey! you can actually contact that Ultimately Reality that I'm speaking off. It is just not what you think it is. Those insights Buddhists speak of constitute the very nature of that ultimate reality and you can be conscious of them right now! Not via alien awakenings or having bombastic conscious experiences that veer one's constuctions further into 'I'm a being that is omniscient (first of all, all sense of separation is an illusion so you cant even be a 'being' so to speak) AND can control 'reality' (which again implies duality) directly via getting even more conscious' etc. It is easy to slip into that mode when the very experiences that your mind constructs in psychedelics is very convincing. But there is such a thing as a 'mistaken insight' You misinterpret it and reach the wrong conclusion through the same experiences. So don't put psychedelics on a pedestal and think 'it is 100% the truth downloading to your consciousness' or whatever. Sure it is very close to that actually but there is a significant chance of misinterpretation still Especially when you are so attached to said experiences for your entire spiritual development like Leo.

Well just keep going in your own dream analogy. You realize that 'Arthagoaan' fella is sleeping and is living in a different 'dimension' so to speak. My point is from your 'dream' landscape (while you are sleeping at night) is NOT all there is to reality. When you do wake up (both figuratively and literally in this case), you see that there is a new 'constructed' reality that INCLUDES your dream reality (Arthagon waking up from the dream as a person. Washing their face, living their lives). So that dream landscape ıs NOT all there is to reality. There is Ultimate Reality that FULLY includes and is one with your dream landscape but it is much larger and is NOT a part of 'ALL MIND' as subset. It is the higher order. A reality your mind CANT even access directly with your human brains even with the best pscyhedelics or meditations. Thats the insight into Emptiness and it truly is an eye opener. Especially considering Leo is extremely intoxicated with the idea that 'The conscious experiences are really important. They are all you know. There is NOTHING that is higher order than this. This is it!' sorta mindset. It is all the foundation that rests on his solipsistic and 'all mind' position. Not even realizing his alien awakenings are jus as unimportant as that coffee table and conscious experiences OVERALL are ultimately meaningless due to insight into emptiness and impermanence.

To me what you're saying is very important. I'm not addressing whether Leo is right or wrong in his response because Idk. I'm staying away from that, but what I will say, is your response to him sounds good on the surface and shows caring for how Leo responds to questions on the forum and the advice he gives in relation to how his forum following receive and implements those said advice. However, when you boldly make the claim that EVERYONE on the forum WILL take his advice whether directed to them or not is not a true statement and sounds "cult like". This is not a cult, and not everyone will take his advice and implement them. I'm not saying he doesn't give good and sound advice, what I'm saying is, remarks like that insinuates that we don't know how to think for ourselves, and maybe that is true for some but not for all. It is very important for me to say to you that I'm not trying to tell you how to respond to anyone and how you SHOULD express yourself however you choose, but what I can do is make the suggestion to you that it would probably be more effective and sound advice to say to us, not leo, in respect to the original advice he gave about the insanity issue for us not to take every advice from Leo and implement them because sometimes he can be wrong and for us to think about them ourselves and to use proper judgment in how we take advice from others because sometimes they may not be suited for everyone and may be applicable for some depending on your state of being and level of understanding and consciousness. Yes, he does have a responsibility and should be wary, as you say, for the advice he gives, but we also have a responsibility to teach ourselves how to think and to make decisions for ourselves because in the end it all lies on us to obtain the results we want to achieve. Personally, I do respect and listen to most of Leo's advice on certain issues, not all, because there are other areas of life and other people I can turn to if I believe they're more suitable for me in regards to advice I may need to help in my own decision making. To me, Leo is a genius, but then he's also human, even though he claims to not be and is now an alien. Don't quote me on that, though.

Yea spirituality misses SD yellow structure. It is so confusing. Why is it hard for a spiritual teaching to make a scale from most easy awakening to most difficult awakening? Like first understand non duality, than understand solipsism and then understand alien consciousness. I do believe there are overarching principles in spirituality. These need to be defined and put together for students. Otherwise it is just a mishmash of ideas. It is no wonder that human spirituality is in such a dire state.

The genius of being a genius is that nobody can understand what you're saying well enough to disprove it Gödel was just pointing out that even genius mathematicians can't agree on a common set of assumptions. So not only is the body of knowledge built on a shaky foundation of unprovable assumptions, but the foundation itself constantly shifts. In other words, Socrates was right about knowing that we know nothing. Absolute knowledge is only directly realized. It's beyond the capacity of any conceptual mind (human, alien, or god) to comprehend.

I thought your new course would be on alien consciousness ?

Human: make distinction between what’s good and bad. Alien: intuit what’s right given the contextless context.

And yet God could shapeshift from to Chimpanzee to Lizard to Alien Rat. ? ? Actively REPROGRAMMING one's DNA in Real-Time.

I want become an alien

Maybe he reached an alien state of BDSM and got alien levels of hardness.

Your quality of being is alien to that of a normie. You stand out even while blending in.

Maybe it’s some alien magic shit. Aliens shit red. I recommend seeing an alien doctor.

@OBEler No facts matters to the alien believers. They will twist anything in favor for aliens. It's the same kind of thing like flat earth believers reject all evidence that the earth is round.

I’ve never masturbated with my hand before, believe it or not. I’ve mentioned this to others, and nobody has an explanation as to why. Maybe I’m an alien.

Hey guys, it's been a while since i posted here. I kept reading, but was busy having them experiences, building up to that good life, working up the spiral to prepare for hopefully also penetrating to alien consciousness and beyond Anyway, there's no shortage of very dogmatic content around this subject, but here's a guy who stands out to me, i think what he's talking about is worth some digging into. Cheers guys, hope you're doing well

Nice perspective. It’s been a few days since that Alien Insanity post, and already I’m making the connection to my own personal life. I realize that I need to start family therapy soon, despite it being uncomfortable as hell dealing with people who have a completely different worldview than me.