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You need to let go of your expectations of how you should feel. Seek deeper and deeper conciousness without fear. To get to a solid bliss you need an ego death. If you've already had Samadhi once then the biggest obstacle holding you back is your understanding of what it will feel like again. The goal is ultimately to see with your eyes but to "be" fully your heart. When the heart sees the world it sees only itself. You need to also just let go of your anger and impatience mate.

Maybe I'm naive, but to me, the greatest joy is still living an adventurous, meaningful life. I can bliss out whenever I want, but I'm still so fucking young and have so much energy and potential - why not go on an odyssey and put on a good show, instead of sitting on your ass all day, doing nothing? It's not that I lack anything, I'm just motivated to do it for it's own sake.

@Someone here Bro, why present them as if there's a schism between Stoicism and Hedonism? There isn't, just your mind likes to chisel a chasm that isn't, instead of hemming in what is and isn't with your oven mites. A mind that likes flying in mental denial gymnastics like a hamster bike wheel, riding to chase Hedonism with haste into smithereens, needs a bit of Stoicism, to bring boiling toil to simmer to then stillness. Another mind too stone cold, itching for a cinnamon roll, told to hold in those boney base urges, needs a bit of Hedonism, cuz he/she gonna miss the bliss of life and thrive in the wrong way, in deep fried, thick mile sand oil. So! Like the Taoists, practice Daoism, cuz they so chill to pendulum switch and balance, symmetry and asymmetry, the D with the T-T to the !D-LIKE A T-BONED STEAK IN A MYTHICAL DREAM!

access concentration usually brings up a certain ecstasy in the body. if you dont, nobody can really answer it for ya.. its very personal.. you might need to experiment with the different suggestions you get. in my opinion, you're not there yet.. you should be buzzing with the intensity of your concentration to get to that bliss flooding your body. its not easy and i dont think being able to stay without thoughts for a minute or so is enough. you should just keep practicing. also, consider dropping that analyizing voice in your head thats counting how much time you spent in concentration and just stay concentrated - you need to drop everything ! dont forget that. dont make "not wasting your precious time" your goal here, but your self realization.

@RickyFitts This! So many people want bliss, but they don't want to resolve their traumas...

you're asking about finding bliss by meditating, not about how to fix a car engine. what kind of answer do you want? something very concrete to an absolutely vague question?

@Laxx Try a 10-day Vipassana retreat, and then you could reevaluate the benefits of meditation. You want bliss, but you don’t appear to have the required staying power at present.

Bliss can most definitely be reached via meditation. It is not merely the state of no thoughts. It is the state of recognising that you are simply a vehicle for whatever is already unfolding (God). Bliss is total surrender to God. Total surrender to your true nature.

Yeah, I know its possible, I've heard of similar stories, but it definitely needs something more than just no thoughts. Your level of consciousness can of course can be raised from means other than psychedelics, but it seems incredibly difficult to reach a permament state of bliss.

I live in a constant state of no thoughts, for whatever reason, and my experience is not any more blissful than if I was thinking. All I have is a more calm awareness, no feeling of crampedness in my head, and I am more aware of the present moment. But when I take psychedelics and reach far higher levels of consciousness where I am very conscious of love, oneness, and so forth, I feel indescribable bliss far stronger than any orgasm you could have. It's both physical and mental, and even metaphysical. It's just bliss in every conceivable way. It's sheer ecstacy. When many meditators talk about bliss, they are probably referring to the former, not to the actual incredible bliss that you can get from psychedelics. If you actually want true bliss, increase your level of consciousness, as Leo said.

@Laxx Here’s the truth. Everything is relative. You won’t notice bliss in the absence of pain. That is, if your everyday experience is relatively pain-free mentally and physically, the low levels of bliss from modest amounts of meditation will be less noticeable. Bliss is the realisation that you are not connected to the pain, that the pain is not yours. Ultimate bliss is the recognition that no matter how extreme the pain, it is not yours - you have transcended it by dissolving the self. Psychedelics allow you to witness this directly because they give you an overview effect of the suffering that is innate to being human, yet position you very much outside it. If you are not reaching this state then longer hours in meditation might help. For example, you could try sitting through the pain of 10 hours per day of motionless meditation without any back support, on a very basic cushion with very little padding. Switch things up a little Once seen it cannot be unseen. The feeling that you are completely outside the pain is bliss. You will laugh, you may even cry tears of joy. Eventually the pain itself will reveal that it was always illusory, merely an energetic blockage that was inextricable from your level of consciousness. Do this enough and eventually you merge with God. Your body is rebuilt to do the work of God alone, and whatever you thought you were dissolves to nothing.

The issue is not to silence the mind but to dissolve the barrier of the ego. the ego is supposed to be the thoughts, therefore we deduce that in the absence of thought there is no self. that's not true. it can be the not-self with thoughts and be the self with all its granite solidity in silence. when the self dissolves the mind takes on unlimited depth, and bliss occurs. this happens during meditation, but in my experience the ego has had to be completely vaporized several times before. this can happen with very serious and intensive meditation practices or with 5 meo. If you have not broken the granite block that is the ego, being silent for a minute will not help you much, only as a mental control practice

Any unresolved trauma or emotional wounding that there is in you is going to hinder your ability to feel bliss, it's going to cover it up. So having a quiet mind isn't enough on its own, you have to be aware of what's going on inside you on a physical, energetic, and emotional level too, you have to develop bodily sensitivity so that those unresolved traumas and emotional wounds, which are stored in the body, can become conscious and gradually unravel. And that can take serious practise, it isn't likely to be something that's going to happen overnight; it can be disturbing and painful when those unresolved issues do start to bubble up in you, too, it really isn't for the faint-hearted and it requires an uncompromising devotion to the truth, no matter how painful and troubling.

You can breathe your way to bliss quite effectively with a little practice. Not the kind of divine ecstasy that you would get on a psychedelic but still pretty sweet.

You would get more bliss from a morning run in the park than from meditating for two hours straight. Best is to combine both and practice walking meditation.

Bliss doesn't come from an absence of thoughts. Bliss comes from higher states of consciousness in which Love and Oneness is recognized.

There is plenty of bliss in spirituality. It happens in the absence of "me".

@Waken Love it. Very true. One of the wisest things I have read here. I admire the selflessness of your returning here to post this. I would probably refine some of what you’ve said. For me, it is about dissolving what you think of as yourself and surrendering to what you really are: God expressing itself through your form. We either stand in the way of God’s expression - wishing this or that to be different - or we surrender to it. If we experience enough suffering in our lives, then we might eventually come to the conclusion that “being in control” is and always was an illusion. It is when we relax into the flow of this awareness that “obstacles” - which seemed insurmountable at first - will fade away, and bliss can ultimately follow. Living life for oneself, or in fact thinking oneself to be real at all - is the primary cause of suffering. Being a vehicle for the expression of God’s perfection, and awareness of such, is the perfect freedom.

@JuliusCaesar The usual roadmaps I see of spiritual progress are of Service to Others, you have any idea how one for Service to Self would go? Do you think the basis of the negative polarity is in feeling infinitely separate(same as unification, but this facet doesn't include any love)? What's your opinion on this: "For 3D beings to polarize negatively, the goal is to solidify the ego so much that it breaks and there is a recognition of absolute sovereignty/power/authority. In this, the phrase "I AM ME" or "I AM" has a different meaning than what it is on the positive polarity. Since such a being feels separate from everything, it has no sense of guilt, in fact it's seen as something to be transcended. Morality is realized to be relative and in this way one sees there is no reason to stop themselves from getting what they want. Impulses are not restrained unless out of fear of punishments. Although impulses could be a big part of their life, they are not controlled by them. One negatively polarizes by expanding their ego onto others and therewhich increasing power. The only way to do this is by making the other submit their free will, and their ego to you. In this way you expand your self, which is very different to how Service To Others does it, as there they merge with each other(dissolve away) instead. Fear is also seen as a major thing to transcend just like on Service To Others path. One who is consciously on the negative polarity path, can also transcend suffering by the recognition of absolute authority(God) and further negative polarization. It's not suffocating to be on this path as one can be in a constant state of bliss from one's own power if polarized enough. As the positive polarity finds bliss in otherselves(love), the negative polarity finds bliss in the self(power)."

Eckhart Tolle is the man when it comes to handling negative thoughts. At least that was the case for me. His book 'The Power of Now' coupled with regular meditation practice for a couple of months changed my relationship to thoughts completely to where they're now mostly a positive asset or something that makes me chuckle at the vast weirdness of life. So firstly that could be something worth looking into if negative/intrusive thoughts are becoming tough to deal with. Secondly, weed is an amazing and misunderstood psychedelic. I would never have gone down my current path without it and I'm now very thankful for that, it gave me a lot of insight into myself and helped me explore and connect better with my feelings But this was not always the case for me, my journey with weed has been like an adventurous relationship, it's had its ups and downs. I had quite a few moments where what weed made me discover made me hate weed and regret doing it in the first place. Ignorance is bliss, or so it seems, the stuff weed shows you can bring up negative stuff first. I think ultimately the most valuable insights from weed aren't always so pleasent. But the same could be said for other psychedelics as well. It's just that people are quicker to justify/recontexualize/integrate 'bad trips' on other psychedelics than the negative stuff brought up from weed use. Ultimately I think this experience could end up helping you develop into a more loving being. Both for yourself and others. It could help you improve your relationships with others. I always like hearing of others insights from weed because imo it's so misunderstood but profound. I hope this experience will turn out for you like it usually did for me, where you first get an uncomfortable insight that is but a seed for the beautiful transformation that is to come, if you're open to it it's possible.

Bliss is just a passing stage in buddhism. Buddha says don't cling even to that. Even that is suffering. Go beyond everything. Even heaven ?

Shonyata is not bliss. It's nothingness. Beyond all qualities. There're no qualities in shoonya. Bliss is heaven. Shoonya is beyond heaven. Primordial space. The core of existence. No taste, no smell, no touch, no feeling, no bliss, no nothing. Also i didn't understand your argument why eliminating desires is considered nihilism.

Buddha was not a nihilist in the western sense of the word. However in terms of spirituality, his philosophy comes under nihilism. Let me explain: The western nihilism says that life is meaningless because ultimately everyone has to die and no matter how much we try we won’t get anything superior out of our lives. It also rejects all religious principles as well as moral principles. Buddhism believes that the whole problem of suffering is due to our desires and thus in order to eliminate sufferings we have to take care of desires. This, in fact, is also what vedas say or what koran and bible says. what differs is the solution provided by different philosophies. Buddhism says that in order to end the sufferings (and thus become blissful) one has to end the desires. It says that when one stops all the material desires then one becomes free and can experience sunyata(void) . the all pervading bliss .

@Someone here i don't think buddha was a pessimist. My theory is that it takes enourmous wisdom to understand why nirvana is biggest liberation. And it's very hard to understand why. He sayed even heaven is suffering. Even realms of heaven of eternal ecstacy is suffering. What kind of crazy dude would say that? What kind of wisdom does it take to give up bliss and extacy for nothingness? Crazy much wisdom it takes i believe.

I have this fond childhood/teenage memory where I concentrated so hard during a chess game that it felt like my brain would shake out of my head. It was pure bliss after I won. I never concentrated so hard ever again in my life.