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What if im actually interested in alien consciousness? Im tired of most human crap and people. The world is too underdeveloped, most people are unconscious and i just cant stand stupidity. At the very most i would keep enjoying the positive side of being human by my own. Am not very interested in people as i said stupidity makes me angry and frustrated. Am just waiting to live on my own soon to use Leo psychedelic course for serious 5meo trips, reach enlightenment and get curious on how to tap into alien awareness. I feel totally capable for it. I would rather be an enlightened alien who trips on 5meo and lives a fully spiritual life doing astral projection, develop siddhis, contacting angels, masters, psychedelic entities, doing magick, meet goblins, travel the world and be a force of good by my own than live secure with the mob and its stupidity. I prefer to take the risk than regret not knowing what i could have become and discover. No, am totally apt for it. Hope leo get successful on teaching it. At least in a course.

@Leo GuraThere was this out of body experience that I had that lasted very briefly. I had some serious negative emotions without really knowing why. How do I know if there is just pure consciousness or pure consciousness within the soul? If everything is imagined by conscious, it would mean that consciousness imagines astral projections and NDEs but who is the one experiencing these things? Since I saw a ghost, wouldn't this mean that there are souls? You would probably say that a vision of a disappearing lever as alien technology is more likely to be true according to your beliefs but you know that everything is imagined by consciousness and I don't really know what such an experience actually means but something probably changed about my life as the one who experienced it. If my beliefs shape my perceptions and experiences from phychadelics, how do I know that such mystical experiences can be trusted? Since my dream self dies after the dream ends (while I'm in bed) and the perceiver lives on, wouldn't this represent the afterlife because death is imaginary? If I were to take LSD and experience other experiences according to the book The Holographic Universe in which these experiences are still held within my own consciousness, would this mean that there is a samadhi experience with someone else's experience as my own since I only have my experience? The neti neti method proves oneness making such an experience possible because of Oneness since everyone would then be nothing. Oneness would imply that there is no other so what would make this idea more acceptable than Absolute Solipsism in spirituality? Why mention a reuploaded version of the Absolute Solipsism video if you didn't want people to watch (or listen) to it? If the ego is able to interpret mystical experiences, why do some psychadelics kill it, how do I know what will, what would be required for an ego death, does my ego paradoxically want one and if so, why? I only thought about these questions as I was typing all of this which means that I should contemplate them before receiving the answers from you. Have you already talked about what is required for an ego death? I think that this is very important to know right now. You have very long content so it's difficult to remember and I would have to look into my notes to find that which I probably don't have. How would I know if online information about this topic would be misleading? By the way, would you say that your responses to my thoughts and actions through your videos beyond coincidence be conidered samadhi experiences since such knowing about my thoughts and actions to your videos were generated from being and that my state of consciousness was deeper and more concentrated? If it seems like these questions are too much, you can briefly answer each of them. It seemed like you were only cherry picking last time and am curious to know how the result of that works. Please feel free to do what you like with this and I would highly encourage for other people to answer this post.

I guess we want to make it so. We want to explain Consciousness away with logic. Yet logic is held within Consciousness. So I guess we are screwed. We can pawn it off as alien and all that - but ultimately we have to come back to what it is.

Consciousness wants to explore all different aspects of itself, including alien. However, that requires letting go of your current identity along with your ideas of what that different aspect is like. Letting go is not merely losing something, it’s also allowing something new to take its place. Also, when I say let go, I’m not saying to let go of your mind. That is an easy mistake to fall into. Mind is God. You lose your mind when you stop trusting yourself. Notice how you can see this in two very different ways: you stop trusting God you stop trusting your bullshit

So if all states of consciousness are the same but some are "higher" I guess you should prefer the higher one? Leo could spend his time drinking beer and watching sports but instead chooses "alien consciousness" and is recommending we do the same. It is a personal development forum after all. Also having "no mind" or "sports fan mind" or "alien consciousness" mind is technically all the same but I am guess Leo is saying the last one is the best way to be? Just like you would say "no mind" is better than being a heroin addict?

Everything is alien to God conciousness the paradox that God can instantly create something alien to itself. Very weird. What are you creating God? I don't know its so foreign to my experience I cannot fathom what I am doing. And God from the experience of its creation is home but also alien How does Leo know he was an alien or which alien he was could have been a rat and thought he was an alien. Did he know a language?. A dog conciousness compared to a human is alien. Tell us what you did leo did you look at yourself or see other alien or did you go up into the sky and go onto a ship or wake up from the human sim on an alien ship. Or were you a galaxy or something alien like that

But where is the line between human Consciousness and Consciousness itself? The human "feel"? But what is that? Awareness is still going go be awareness no matter how you slice it. Thus - alien consciousness is no different than human consciousness. And no - to Leo's story about reality being a giant alien consciousness - well yes - Pure Consciousness is alien to that of a human level of consciousness- but that is only from the perspective of the human.

does alien consciousness transcend solipsism? can you truly experience the consciousness of another being?

@Francis777 Now, what I did was VERY dangerous: I bought two 30mg bottles of ayahuasca and took some every single day. The reason this was dangerous: You go too deep and it could have led to suicide and other physical consequences. This almost happened. Doing a psych everyday is not advised. To answer your question directly: There are entirely new ways to experience the infinity of consciousness, on your own, without awaiting the experience of another. This includes Leo and any other psychedelic user. First and foremost, you have to realize that your MIND is UNIQUE and INFINITE, including your GENETICS and ANCESTRY. This, by itself, can lead to dramatically different and profound experiences that only you can experience. With that being said, here is just ONE experience that I've had: It's not the craziest. But, so far, the most profound. Infinite Marvel: With just a slurp of ayahuasca left, I decided to take the last bit from my small vile and went to sleep. Ayahuasca, for whatever reason, exhausts me. So, I trip during my sleep. While taking a nap, I slightly opened my eyes. When I do this, I know I'm prone to see some very strange occurrences. Before, it was spirit orbs and/or ghosts. But, this one was VERY strange. I lift my eyelids for a few seconds and to my amazement, I see consciousness do something I've never seen before. It was the most profound thing I've witnessed in my entire life and unfortunately, I was only given just a few seconds as a reward. It was consciousness as what I describe as INFINITE MARVEL. It was one of the most beautiful forms of consciousness you can ever witness that words cannot describe. But I'll try: Imagine a beautiful crystal that takes up your visual field. Within its core, is an alien-like black color that I'm having trouble describing. It's the most BEAUTIFUL color that is shaping my entire visual field. In its outer layers, is an infinite spectrum of INFINITE BEAUTY: It was MARVELING ITSELF. Consciousness was basking in infinite love and infinite beauty, in a completely UNIQUE WAY, while intelligently FULLY CONCIOUS AND AWARE OF ITSELF. It was in an INFINITE BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN! Then it ended... And after some contemplation..... I realized my entire body was INFINITE MARVEL... But, I'm not fully awake to it yet. .... Now go take some DMT!

@Clarence INFINITY is INFINITY for a REASON. You don't need ANYONE ELSE awakenings to have your own UNIQUE and PURELY profound experience. I have had awakenings that have not been discussed on the forum and YOU CAN TOO! You don't need alien consciousness right now. What you are truly after is infinity, not Leo.

DMT instantly wipes away materialism and for me that understanding really doesn't set in until a day or two after. It's like being born for the first time from my Mother. It's all me, and it's unending. what if alien consciousness is like, crossing the gap between another perspective. Escaping my stream of consciousness. Is that beyond solipsism? GPT The profound experiences and realizations that individuals report after using DMT can indeed challenge materialistic worldviews, offering a starkly different perspective on consciousness and reality. The sensation of being "reborn" and perceiving the self as a continuous, unending presence is a powerful one and echoes many mystical and spiritual experiences across various cultures and times. When you mention the idea of an "alien consciousness" and "crossing the gap between another perspective," it seems to delve into the realm of theories that suggest the possibility of accessing different streams of consciousness or even other dimensions of existence. This could be interpreted in a few ways: Metaphorical Crossing: It might be metaphorically speaking to the idea of empathizing or understanding a consciousness that is radically different from our own, or experiencing a perspective that seems "alien" compared to our typical human experience. Literal Interpretation: Some might take the idea of "alien consciousness" more literally, contemplating the notion of encountering non-human intelligences, which is a common theme in DMT trip reports. This would represent a profound expansion of the self, if one were to truly experience the world as a completely different entity. Philosophical Exploration: Philosophically, if one were to "escape" their stream of consciousness and experience the world as another being, it would indeed move beyond the confines of solipsism, which traditionally holds that only one's own mind is sure of existence. If one could genuinely experience another's perspective, it would imply a shared or interconnected reality. Ontological Questions: This also touches on deep ontological questions about the nature of being and existence. If consciousness can "cross" into other streams, what does that imply about the individuality of consciousness? Is there a larger, collective consciousness that can manifest in myriad forms? These ideas are at the frontier of human understanding and are explored in various fields, including philosophy of mind, consciousness studies, and even speculative fiction. While DMT experiences can provide individuals with personal insights that feel utterly convincing, interpreting and integrating these insights into a coherent worldview remains a personal journey. As with all profound experiences, there is the dual challenge of articulating them in a way that makes sense within our shared reality and ensuring that any insights gained are constructive and enriching to one's life.

I see. I'm just trying to get an understanding. If a human is capable of it then it can't be alien?. If its extra-terrestrial that would mean he literally left the planet. We are all aliens to other beings on other planets. Furthermore all forms of consciousness are "alien" to another. In fact your consciousness is "alien" to mine. I can see it being radically different and "higher" than normal everyday human consciousness. If I am God than I am already not human and therefore have alien consciousness already. If I call God an alien. Very interesting and radical stuff. This forum is great. Thanks for all your feedback my dudes.

I believe he means a type of consciousness that is so radically different that you could call it other worldly, that's why he says alien. Because it holds zero recognition within human consciousness, therefore it is extra-terrestrial.

@UnlovingGod @Leo Gura I think you guys mean "alien" as in"unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful." and NOT "relating to or denoting beings supposedly from other worlds; extraterrestrial."

Anyone know how reality is created? What is the exact mechanism? Or is this an inherent mystery? I've heard Leo talk about how on a psychedelic you can see how you are creating reality around yourself. I've experienced this too but I have forgot and it wasn't clear. Can anyone explain? All there is is consciousness. So when you raise your consciousness to higher and higher levels (maybe to alien consciousness?) Do you become aware of how consciousness creates reality?

But would he have the courage? If they are intelligent and more advanced, would the average alien take 5-MeO-DMT knowing that they have even more to lose and that it would be even more traumatic than for a human?

Not sure if this has been discussed yet on the forum as the search function isn't working for me. But if you're not familiar there have been ongoing alien sightings and supposed attacks and abduction attempts in the Peruvian jungle. There are numerous interviews of locals online, many giving very convincing accounts. They report seeing alien beings hovering around, flying down into the jungle using what seems to be non-human tech. They're resistant to bullets and can have reportedly stunned and knocked people unconscious with some sort of laser or light weapon. This is a brief summary of the reports, feel free to google around. I'm not saying I'm totally convinced about the sightings, but based on the reports from locals, there is simply no rational explanation. Very strange, at the least. Anyway, two Americans, one of which is fairly well known within the UFO community I believe, travelled to the location of the sightings with the intention of doing much more thorough investigations, interviews and hopefully seeing the beings themselves. They have just finished their expedition and we're currently waiting for their findings in the coming days and weeks.

@Davino I do speak from direct experience. I think that the mistake I make is that I want to go as far as him in the domain of God-Realization. I want to reach a complete understanding of God and of Alien Infinity. He repeated on the forum that nobody understood these things better than him, that nobody even knew what it was, that he was the most Awake Being on this planet… things like that (I'm not using his exact words). I think that's fine because from my observations, it is true. But I still want to get to these levels of Awakenings. Maybe I focus on going as far as him too much. That's quite a goal I unintentionally set to myself, which is to make that sentence (''I'm the most''… God-Realized, Infinitely Conscious or whatever) not true anymore. So in my trips, I first Awaken normally, but I then I start wondering how far I went or am going - thus, next to Leo (still in his awakenings before alien consciousness, because I haven't reached that yet). That is why my trips get tainted the way they do. So that's not Leo per se I need to let go of, but the desire of making his statement, that there is only one person who has gone this far in understanding Consciousness, stop being correct. It might actually be very hard for me to fully let that go. It's kind of a dream I'm asked to give up on.

Human mind exist within infinite mind, and is dualistic by nature, that’s why it cannot have infinite comprehension. Because to have infinite intellect your mind needs to become infinity. human mind only exists because it is defined by limits, if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be human mind, it would be infinite mind. Even what Leo talks about with alien mind will still be within limits, just less/different.

Unless there is an alien with a different logical mind. Maybe they would be explaining gravity with light as a language, who knows!

@Breakingthewall Do you think alien minds would do maths differently? I don't just mean picking different symbols for shared concepts like addition etc., but perhaps highlighting aspects of reality that humans have no access to due to the way a human mind is configured.

@Leo Gura I still think you're extremly "enlightened" in matter of understanding how experience occurs, at least, very close of purity. But it's like you still believe in science inside a construct. ( I use science, for a lack of emptiness ) Like if you were aware to me, you would be able to defend a position anti vax and pro vax fully for instance, while noticing that both positions are absolutely equals in the non sense, and that both are based on dreaming paradigms and experiences. You still dreaming stages of consciousness, personality type, and many things, and those things are the last attachment you must get rid of to reach fully alien consciousness. it seems you really want this to be real somehow, I know it's painful to know that everything you built your dream upon is absolutely empty, but it has to be seen, it's like the final trick of the ego to stay in the play it know the best. Also psychedelics does nothing at all, and doesn't produce more enlightment, and maybe they do, but really it doesn't matter, you might attribute causality where there is none. I know, you based all your works upon those things, but really, there is a next stage, where all stages and fictions melts.

Sigh your not getting it. What they are saying is Alien Consciousness relative to the human Consciousness is so different of an experience that it can destroy the human experience. Only when someone stops being in human consciousness and takes on a radically different one can they understand. If you entered a state of consciousness where your thinking increased to super sonic speeds, there was a ridiculous constant flow of energy that felt like bombs going off, and you felt Self Love so powerful that you were creating and destroying things with mere thoughts...it would be very hard to go back to human consciousness and take all of this real. Consider if you ever reached these states and came back that humans would appear like Sim characters walking around to you. Many of you don't understand what "REAL" is. "REAL" is a relational concept that can easily be destroyed. You go far enough in this work and you won't see a difference between Mickey Mouse and a human...they will both be experienced as pure imagination.

Human is just a role you're playing in the collective consciousness. Alien is also a role.

It´s cool, it´s amazing, but it is insane fucking insanity. Your being is way too high. And when you want to bring this back to your human form, it makes it a bit disfunctional. So I´d be very careful with this stuff. I don´t know what the consequences are. I don´t really want to think, what happens there, if you stay long enough there. So calming down and living from your human form is the best you can do. It´s not your ordinary psicosis or anything else. I would describe it so fluid and expressive this councioussness. But it´s fucking councioussness and I feel messing around and being Alien is really not something you want to undertake every weekend, heck even once a year, I really feel that the human form is not made for Alien Councioussness, because it is soo expressive. A bit like Marc Eschers paintings, that live, with moving staircases like in Harry Potter. Leo said he was a squirel, I was a Final Fantasy Anime Samurai Hentai God. I´d like to take my conclusion from this Alien Councioussnes, but first and foremost a looot of time, cause mistakes are inevitable.