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JevinR replied to JevinR's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Exping Reincarnation is a fact, most of what Gura teaches is modern day Buddhism, which is spiritually corrupted. There is no black nothingness after death, you just go to the astral, wait however long, and then re-incarnate. That's why I don't follow his bullshit anymore. I was in it for conciousness, but this whole idea of destroying the ego then dissipating yourself is complete bull, and was funded by the Rothschild as they do not want anyone spiritually awake or aware. They want everyone completely spiritually dead, without conciousness, one is just a monkey. That's what they want, is a monkey that without rights, liberty, nationality or even race, a slave. That's why the media promotes multi-culturalism, as when you race mix, everybody destroys their ancestry and culture. Then, however many years down the road you race mix again, and again and again, until there is just one race, one currency, one government. All ruled by the friggin elites who are all kikes, to give you an idea of what they are planning, it is called Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is basically the enslavement of society, they want to kill off caucasians first, as they will rebel first, that's what BLM and the immigration crisis in europe is about. Then they will have everyone boxed into these small drone like units, where you work where you sleep, for 16 hours a day like a dog, then you eat and sleep and back to work for you are a slave. This documentary shows more about Agenda 21: It's at about 6:45 Where they show the little unit most people will be working in. -
Exping replied to JevinR's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
hey , for people who don't understand as much try this article... https://lonerwolf.com/awakened-soul-reincarnation/ -
ajasatya replied to The Monk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Prabhaker a better word would be "rebirth" instead of "reincarnation". also, it's impossible to get out of the rebirth cycle, because there's nobody to get out of it. reality has an urge to experience what we call "being" and we're consequences of it... even siddhartha gautama himself said that he was not leaving reality. you can check this out on the Lotus Sutra, chapter 16: Since I attained Buddhahood the number of kalpas that have passed is an immeasurable hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, millions, trillions, asamkhyas. Constantly I have preached the Law, teaching, converting countless millions of living beings, causing them to enter the Buddha way, all this for immeasurable kalpas. In order to save living beings, as an expedient means I appear to enter nirvana but in truth I do not pass into extinction. I am always here preaching the Law. I am always here, but through my transcendental powers I make it so that living beings in their befuddlement do not see me even when close by. -
Prabhaker replied to The Monk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hindus believe in God and the soul. Jainas don't believe in God at all but only in the soul. And Buddhists don't believe in the soul or God either. But about reincarnation all three agree — even Buddhists agree, who don't believe in the soul. A very strange thing…then who reincarnates? It is easy to understand that there is a soul and when you die the body is left on the earth and the soul enters into another body, into another womb; it is a simple, logical, mathematical thing. But Buddha says there is no soul but only a continuum. It is like when you kindle a candle in the evening and in the morning when you are blowing it out a question can be asked of you: Are you blowing out the same light that you started in the evening? No, it is not the same light, and yet a continuity is there. In the night when you lit the candle… that flame is no more there, that flame is continuously disappearing; it is being replaced by another flame. The replacement is so quick that you can't see the gaps. Buddha says that just as the candle flame is not the same — it is changing constantly, although in another sense it is the same because it is the same continuum — exactly like that, there is no soul entity in you like a thing but one like a flame. It is continuously changing, it is a river. He has come closest to the truth; at least in his expression he is the most profound. This continuum comes to an end when you become a buddha. -
AlwaysBeNice replied to Self-Mastery's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Consciousness is contrary to popular belief not an elaborate hoax created randomly by dead matter, quantum mechanics has long proven this. And further more, there is no evidence that indicates the brain creates consciousness, or free will, that also isn't evidence for it being a receiver. And there is a ton of evidence for the brain being a receiver: PSI research, (verifiable) near death experiences, (verifiable) reincarnation testimonies, precognitive dreams, shared dreams, shared psychic experiences and most easily testable shared psychedelic experiences, either in hyperspace or while conscious here. Though a regular DMT or 5MeO breakthrough should make you open minded enough to be able to objectively look at the evidence from there. Also practicing spirituality seriously will reveal life's wonders directly to you as well, constant synchronicity will eventually be the norm of the day. -
I was at the gym today and talking to a gentleman. He was telling me that he didn't like how messed up the world is. He was saying he wanted peace. He also asked me if I believe in reincarnation and I said no but I'm open to the possibility of it. I know how reincarnation works but I didn't want to tell him that he is God and that God is expressing itself in an infinite amount of ways. I'm just using the word God here for simplicity. I understand where most people come from but I don't see the world the way they do. I'm not attached to politics, culture, religion, science, or any other label that society believes in. I don't think it's wrong to be at a lower consciousness either because that is the way God is working through these people. After knowing all of these things, we can enjoy the world a whole lot more. What do you guys think? Do you tell people the reality of their existence or do you play along? LOL
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Long story short, i was on a trip to Spain with my company (25 of us). The second day we went to a restaurant by the beach and i was sitting in front of my boss, who is an extremely smart guy and into meditation and conciousness himself, but much more into music and technology. (i actually got extra points for mentioning Ekhart Tolle in my interview but i digress). So i glanced at his t-shirt and it was a mummy sitting on a toilet and doesnt have any paper to wipe with. I thought i had seen it before. Then i saw the waiter, who was a really awesome guy, serving with a smile and you could see he puts effort in what he does. His face, i could swear ive seen him before, but the more freaky thing is, i felt like ive been in the same setting before. Doing the same thing. Me and my boss were talking about AI and Conciousness and he said its very near and that he believes it will happen very soon. The picture i got in my mind while he was talking was also something i felt ive seen before! To top this freaky stuff, the next day, as i was laying by myself by the pool doing some meditation, i suddenly started thinking about the Akashic records and i think now that i was like sucked in, or i was part of a very vivid record while on that trip, maybe because of the other people there and the conciousness level. I saw some stuff about some relationship stuff i should keep to myself.. Im not one to gossip and i know i dont deserve to view the records anyway. I dont want to anyway. The freaky stuff tho continued as one of my colleagues, whom i havent seen much off, looked like, felt like, he was buddah reincarnated. The way he smiled and the way he was integrated fully i sensed he was buddah and i still think he is, even if he doesn't know it. The thought next was a bit egoic, i started thinking myself as jesus haha thats standard i believe, bit i also thought that if i was jesus, i am failing miserably in this reincarnation, because i am so far away from being so integrated as my buddah colleague So now i thought, well if buddah and jesus are here, 7 billion people are here. Is something big about to go down? Maybe my boss creates an AI that will be able to make us one again? The end of time? Was this just being attacked by sudden increase of conciousness? Was someone doing voodoo on me? Long story long, i guess. I just wanted to get this out of my chest.
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You're the source. There is no reincarnation, since you never die, and there is nothing to stay back with , since you are everything. Your body is just a host for a part of your consciousness to experience this part of reality.
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And maybe you're actually the reincarnation of the Buddha and Enlightenment is your destiny. Or maybe you'll just get hit by a bus tomorrow and none of this will matter. Skepticism is good. But it's no reason to throw rationality out the window.
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So to break it down, I have joined a spiritual group that knows all of the so called occult, or the knowledge of the hidden, with this I learned much too much on advancing the soul, this group is a satanic one, and contains of what would to be to onlookers as neo-nazism, which needs to be ignored as what is important is the spiritual concepts taught. The truth is, we all have a soul, this is what is known as consciousness: More on the discovery of the soul: https://www.princeton.edu/~hhalvors/papers/hh-soul-preview.pdf http://gostica.com/soul-science/quantum-physics-proves-that-death-is-an-illusion/ https://www.sott.net/article/271933-Scientists-claim-that-Quantum-Theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2503370/Quantum-physics-proves-IS-afterlife-claims-scientist.html http://www.learning-mind.com/quantum-theory-proves-that-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-after-death/ The human soul contains 5 elements, fire,earth,air,water and spirit (or aether). The soul is of a light body, as shown in the illustration below: (Source: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Human_Soul.html) "Oneness" is a concept for the Soul who has connected Ida and Pnigala. This is truth on the afterlife: http://web.archive.org/web/20150329042134/http://www.exposingcommunism.com/The%20Afterlife%20and%20Reincarnation.pdf Disregard the dogma, and read it for what it is, as it goes into full depth of this so called "afterlife". Peace is also a spiritual concept, and peace is attained when one flushes out their negative Karma and mental problems, through meditation, and they achieve enlightenment. Which literally means, the filling of the Soul with light. This manifests into mental serenity, clearness of thought, and an elevated state of existence where one is no longer bothered by the problems of a disobedient and problematic "mind". The Buddah sat beneath the "Bo Tree" and achieved enlightenment. "Bo means serpent, as in Bo-A or Boo-Ta." Ancient religions centered around the reverence for the serpent. The serpent is the symbol of the kundalini. The "Tree of Knowledge" is really the map of the human soul. It is seen in nearly every ancient religion pre-dating Judeo/Christianity. The trunk symbolizes the spine, and the branches symbolize the chakras and the kundalini pathways. There are 144,000 nadis (channels for the kundalini life force) within the human soul. In addition to the 7 chakras, or the major sources of energy, there are several minor ones overlooked [ As much spiritual knowledge is actively suppressed. Also, a page on opening the chakras: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/OpeningChakras.html Enlightenment is through the Crown chakra, (Where the Ida and Pingala merge) as shown in this diagram: On afterlife: "What one must be aware is the fundamental parts of the Soul, as in Male [Pigala] and Female [Ida] energy, as well as the Shushumna part of the Soul [the door and the place of Kundalini energy] which is the actual hermaphrodite energy. There have been posts asking to where people are asking about the pains of reincarnation, or how this happens and so forth. Yes, this is the unfortunate Truth, but not all of it and not the Truth for Satanists. We have to reincarnate again and again, which is the natural flow of things, the "natural" of a lower level of existence that we are not meant to exist in. As we have already stated, the Soul if not worked upon with by Meditation can die and wither away, like any other form in the universe. This is no different than leaving the physical body without food. The Gentile Soul is shaped in such manner that when perfected, it can be a self sustaining immortal mechanism, that has an energy uptake form its own self, in other words, as others perish in the after life, those who reach a stage will not. The energy will recreate itself and thus recreate the being. This is the so called "afterlife" the enemy raves about and never gives anyone." - From the article More on consciousness: Also Satan keeps and retains our Souls for those who have not reached this state. For better saying, he keeps and retains our "true self" which is the Soul we have had and possessed in all our lifetimes. This part of the Soul is the actual consciousness, as in pure consciousness and the real ID of the real self. This is who you really are. So long someone stays inside their womb, they are at that state, they are their pure self. The state by which this Real part of the Self is reached is called Samadhi in the East and this is the meaning of Satyan - Eternal Truth. Inside this state one realizes the not so human nature of the Human mind. Thats the literal meaning of the Delphic "know thyself" and of all other Ancient Mysteries. More on death of the physical: Due to our mortal physical body and our lack of spirituality, this state and any and all links to it get lost. This is what xianity aims, as at that state, the mind is overly expanded and the intelligence is amplified to such degree that hardly ever words can describe, because this state is not ordinarily "Human" in anyway. Its superhuman. Its more than Human, its really Human and not the nowdays "Human". If they entered that state. This state is symbolized by the Egyptians by the Wadjet eye, the Horus eye, (Third eye) which upon opening and being delved upon makes one see the Truth. [Satan opens one's spiritual eyes.] Though not mortally and consciously aware, this state is existing and happening inside Humanity, and is taking place in the form of the "higher ego" or "higher self" state, or simply the Samadhi state of consciousness. This state is totally inaccessible by any other means than meditation and also, mastery of the disciple of meditation and perfection of the Soul. Though, without there being a link from this form of consciousness, which is the Vadjet and the Divine Mother Kundalini in other cultures, the conscious self is trapped in basically two modes of consciousness: The male, conscious everyday consciousness [Ida] and the dream like state, the female part. [Pingala The first takes on when you are woken up, the second takes on when you are asleep. Illustration on the ida and pingala: The Male part of the Soul is directly linked to the Mental body, which is the link between the Male and Female parts of the Astral body. There is no "Mental body" on its own, its rather a part of the Male Astral body, but at the same time, what is called "mental body" communicates with the Female part of the Astral body, that contains the Subconscious and Unconscious parts of the Soul. I know it sounds complex, but if one gives it some time, they will understand this. Neither the Male or the Female part of these is really the Real Soul, as the Soul itself resides on the higher realms and is "touched" upon when the male and female part is fused, through empowerment of the Astral body. Both these parts constitute the Aura of the bodies and each body has its own Auric field, that does different things. These parts of the Soul act at the same time and with one another, directly influencing one another, to bigger or lesser degrees . The Astral body is the link between the Higher Part of the Soul, the Real Soul and the conscious/dream bodies that we have, that is dimensionally higher than the present 'ego' and is touched when one is advancing in meditation. When one works and strengthens the astral body, a fusal starts happening, between the higher body [Real Soul] and the lower body [the present Male Active and Female inactive part of the Soul, in the present incarnation]. As the Astral body becomes able, more and more of the "real self" [what we today call unconscious part of the mind, Kundalini Self] is becoming apparent in the everyday consciousness and in the sub conscience. The unconscious part can really become conscious but this is a long, very long process and its through this one becomes a God. Ideally, the Magnum Opus is when this fusal happens and one is again their real self, that has all their past life memories, all their past life knowledge and so forth. The higher part of the Soul is actually conscious and on the lower behalf of the body and Soul is the Kundalini Serpent. This is the Higher Mind. The Kundalini Serpent is actually what Satyan gave Humanity in order to save us from this vicious circle of the "rotar". The "rotar" is actually of the lower existential consciousness and of the enemy, where there is the vicious circle of "karma" that keeps people blind as to the real reality, which is Spiritual. Its the vicious circle of death and rebirth, good and bad and so forth, from which Humanity is ideally meant to escape, but the enemy makes sure to keep people stuck in, in order to exploit the lower beings. What you are living today and doing is also stored inside your unconscious part of the Soul. Stronger events have a bigger impact and are imprinted there. This is the "bank" of your Soul memories. This includes knowledge of past lifes and so forth. These parts of the self can also be regained through this process which is called the Magnum Opus. The mortal body is meant to become immortal through the Magnum Opus, which is the final goal of spirituality. Though, when the fixing of the Astral body has happened, one will not perish in the after life and they will not wither away like other Souls who are not worked upon, after they physically die. By that way, they can incarnate when they want and they can be self sustained. Also, one will have the nessescary power to tread the astral realms and so forth, which is important, and also Satan and the Gods of duat protect people from nerfarious astral entities. Dedicated Satanists at their moment of death, no different than Ancient Egyptians, are taken by the Gods to a special astral plane until they reincarnate. Those who haven't reached that state, though, must re-incarnate before they dissipate so they will not wither and die. Satan though keeps people who are before that state if they are willing and they are sustained, if there are reasons for that. If not, they will be reincarnated. All the bodies are inter-connected and all influence each other. This means something simple. The highest part of the Soul that Satan retains throughout reincarnation and the Gods keep, is influenced by the lowest half of the Soul which is the Physical and is directly linked to the Male part of the Soul, that we change in every lifetime and requires energy renewal until it is fixed through advancement. In other words, as the Astral body advances and you empower it, you empower all parts of your being and not only the body in itself, but the Higher Soul. The power raised through this action empowers your real "Soul", the real "ID" of yourself. At that point, all your progress adds up, so you do not really start from "ground zero" in the next lifetime. You do, but the memory and the openess is there, so states are re-attained real faster than before. When someone physically dies, they experience an opening of their own "Highest self", (which is the intense bliss from enlightenment) one but this only lasts until the physical body has died. Most do not even have any memory at all and most cannot even "get" to that state to actually get a glimpse of this body/Soul part. This is because this consciousness is too high and they are unable to get a hold of it, let alone understand any of it. So when one dies, they simply leave their dead body and the conscious part of their Soul [the Astral body, the body of Astral Projection] exits. It stays into the Astral realm and slowly dissipates. How fast or if it will dissipate depends on many, many things. Dedicated Satanists at that point, no matter how far they are, are being taken by Gods like Anubis and other Gods, so their astral body is escorted into a safe Haven for our Souls. They are sustained there until they reincarnate. With the Astral Body, which is the closer link and contains the "Higher Soul" or the "God part" they are reincarnated again. The Astral body contains inside it two things and a third thing which is the fusal of both. The male [lower Ego part conscious consciousness, Pingala consciousness] , the Subconsciousness [female part of the mind, Ida Consciousness] and the unconscious part which is more or less latent [depends on advancement, Shushumna/Kundalini consciousness] and its purpose is to transform both and save their progress and powers. The female part subconscious of the Soul, the Kundalini, does what is natural and is always striving to meet and connect with the male, conscious part of the Soul. The union produces the third part, which is the open door to the Unconscious part, the Kundalini part. "Unconscious" is only a term. Infact, its supreme consciousness, but not in anyway like the walking consciousness. This walking consciousness is only a part of the whole deal. All consciousness that is of the Astral body [conscious consciousness] gives place to the unconscious consciousness of the Higher Part of the Soul at this point of the Soul entering the Fetus. When one enters, the "Ego" part of the Astral body that they had in the last lifetime and they went to Duat with, dissipates again and they gain a new one, the one they will be born with. This part is given to the child by the parents and directly influences the Physical body aswell and this ties into the Racial criteria aswell. This is why National Socialism is as it is, and is of the Gods of Hell, but this is a whole another matter. What can be said simply, the better body, the better the expression of the Soul. The enemy give their all to destroy the genetics of Humanity for that reason. For this fusal to be able to happen, there has to exist a couple of Humans that are able to give the Soul the genetic material/physical material it needs to actually 'stick' to the body, so it can express itself and advance in the given body. The "Ego" part of the Self is being changed in every lifetime and with it, all conscious knowledge and sense of self is gone forever from Male conscious approach and is being saved inside the Kundalini/Unconscious part of the Soul, yet the female part of the Astral body or the Unconscious part [the Kundalini, the real Self, the Shushumna part of the Soul] remain intact but latent until activated, inside the Soul. In there the powers of the Soul are contained, the memories, the knowledge and anything else. When one is born, they swing again to the new Male conscious part, which is to a degree, connected to the Female part of the mind. How much one will be fused and aware depends on the level they had in their past lifetime. Thats why some people are born very powerful, some less, some very aware, some less aware and so forth. And the process goes on and on until its finalization. At the moment of entering the fetus, the "Ego" part "dies" at this point and with it, all conscious knowledge of the last lifetime. The unconscious part [the Female part of the Astral body] though operates when one is in the womb fully and then for the first years of one's life, with depending power, as it remains intact as it reincarnates intact. This is why some children have memories from past lives and they lose these later, while others do not. The female/latent part of the Soul longs to be connected to the new Active Male Part. Thats the fable of Eve giving Adam the Apple. Eve was tempted by the Serpent and gave Adam the apple. Then they both ate the Apple and they became as the Gods. Reincarnation is mandatory simply because the Male Part is the bio electricity of the Soul, the conscious spark of life, the part from the greater Serpentine energy that we have in out conscious availability to live and is given to us by the physical birth. The meaning though is to be self sustained as a Soul, as stated earlier. The enemy did their best as in threatening Humanity and in cursing them as to not attain this state of being. The knowledge of past lives does not literally exist in the Unconscious/Kundalini part of the Soul as mere "knowledge" but it manifests inside the life in the lower levels in many ways, until its finally accessible in such way that it can be rewired into the present mortal part of the mind, in the form it used to exist. In other words. Its not lost, but to literally re-absorb it, one can only do this after they have raised the Serpent. This force manifests so long that its allowed and accepted. For instance, if one is a Satanist in a past life, then this unconscious part of the Soul urges them to rejoin Satan in the present lifetime and so forth. Ultimately, it really opens up and operates, after they are Ascended. The raising of the Serpent unites the Male part of the Soul [the "Ego" one has in every lifetime] with the female part of the Soul [that remains only half intact after reincarnation, because as we are young it gets programmed by others - this is the door to the higher part of the mind] and they both unite and fuse with the Higher Self/ Kundalini part of the Soul [in which the real Soul ID that existed in all lifetimes and so forth, the real self exists]. The Rising of the Serpent is the ground upon which the True Self of all lifetimes is experienced and is becoming reality. When this happens, the door is being opened and is accessible to this higher self, for whatever purposes. You might think this is the end, but in reality, its the new beggining. Thats why DEATH and DYING and finally, RESURRECTION have been major themes in our Religion throughout the Ages. The consciousness from there on is totally perfected and reform and this is where the Purpose of Being is realized and new states of being have been achieved. The Truth becomes a part of our awareness. Through this consciousness and the help of our Gods, the physical body itself can be made immortal, which means one does no longer have to do this vicious circle of changing active parts of the Soul in every damn lifetime. The Gods give us this opportunity and also, Satan gave us the Serpent and the Higher Part of the Soul in which who we are through all this still preserves and lives and we carry this with us, so that existing over and over until we are finished and perfect is not totally needless. Even if one does not reach the Kundalini ascension fully in their lifetime, they carry with them in the latent part of the Soul the knowledge of how to get there faster, and also they carry the factors that contribute to doing this faster and faster in the next lifetime, so they can finally complete the work. For some it might manifest in making evolutionary leaps, for others in their natal chart, for others in faster advancement and in a sense of "what to do" and in many other forms. Being with Satan manifests in many ways as a wake up call to get to Satan and Satanism, or interest in the Old Pagan religions, or whatever else. For some it might also manifest itself as in raw power, for others in all the above. You get the meaning behind this, not everyone is the same.
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Damn, you'd need reincarnation for that then
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Khin replied to WhatAmI's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@charlie2dogs Do you really know the main teachings of Buddha? The main goal of Buddhism is to reach Nirvana. I don't know about enlightenment because everyone is having different opinions. Nirvana is also called "end of sufferings." My translation of enlightenment is Nirvana. And a person doesn't need to claim himself as a Buddhist to do things Buddha taught. It's the freedom in Buddhism. Which means you do or don't, we don't care. Reincarnate as this or that and ghosts and bla bla bla are some bed time stories which people told their children. The real reincarnation and this ghosts stuff are not the same as people think. @WhatAmI Buddhism will help you a lot. But... do not go for traditional beliefs and religion. Go for teaching. Especially, the core of his teachings. If you are not sure, you should search "Why Buddhists are so eager to reach Nirvana." If you agree, then move on. If not, search something else. -
ChimpBrain replied to Mal's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mal I'm not sure if you'll think this is related or not, but it's what came to mind after reading your post. If you have some free time start it at the 3:00 mark and listen for a few minutes. Not so much to do with "solving issues" as it is reincarnation and the nature of living beings and/or consciousness so maybe I'm off track. -
The more I tread this path, the more I get the sense that this manifest world is not intended for what conventional society thinks it is intended for. This world is a place to be to solve our issues. Nothing more. It seems to me that enlightenment is a process of getting OFF of the manifest realm, rather than making good of it. This has some links to reincarnation, I know of reincarnation conceptually, but for the first time it's making sense to me - I must be reborn into this nonsensical realm in order to do something. The biggest tragedy is, the vast majority of souls with me on this journey have no idea what this "world" is really for. They still think it's about creating some kind of life here, and that this life "matters". I would appreciate your thoughts on about this. P.S. This is not an intellectual insight, but an emotional one.
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abrakamowse replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Ayla To be honest, I don't think the reincarnation concept is right. But I don't understand why so many teachers talk about it. And I was listening about some ideas that reincarnation is not really our ego reincarnating so I was like in a period of study. I would like to know what Buddha exactly said about the concept of reincarnation.- 50 replies
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abrakamowse replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Here there's some kind of explanation, the concept of reincarnation is a misunderstanding, in fact has more to do with the law of Karma. I found this article "googling" You can read the whole article here: http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/reincarnation.htm Here there's an interesting part of the article: "Karma is a Sanskrit word from the root "Kri" to do or to make and simply means "action." It operates in the universe as the continuous chain reaction of cause and effect. It is not only confined to causation in the physical sense but also it has moral implications. "A good cause, a good effect; a bad cause a bad effect" is a common saying. In this sense karma is a moral law. Now human beings are constantly giving off physical and spiritual forces in all directions. In physics we learn that no energy is ever lost; only that it changes form. This is the common law of conservation of energy. Similarly, spiritual and mental action is never lost. It is transformed. Thus Karma is the law of the conservation of moral energy. By actions, thoughts, and words, man is releasing spiritual energy to the universe and he is in turn affected by influences coming in his direction. Man is therefore the sender and receiver of all these influences. The entire circumstances surrounding him is his karma."- 50 replies
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Jan Odvarko replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think we cannot really understand reincarnation until we fully awaken, because the very concept of separate mind and body is somewhat incompatible with the principle of reincarnation. Personally what I (my ego) would like to take with me to the next life is my personal "achievements", memories, thoughts, concepts - everything that creates the false self which I'll be happy to drop in this very life. Once the false self is dissolved, what is left? What is IT that will be carried to the next life? I have no clue, all I know is that it will be impersonal.- 50 replies
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A way to Actualize replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Matt Kahn in an interview in this reaction: Than it is the one that has experienced those past reïncarnation. It was so funny yet genius.- 50 replies
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abrakamowse replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So, the concept of reincarnation is taken in the broadest meaning? I mean, while there's still process of being born and dead there's reincarnation? I have to read about that, I know... hehehe...- 50 replies
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30secs replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Khin yeah ! I agree! Reincarnation is Radically different than most people think.- 50 replies
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Henri replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@randombodymind I hope you`ll not start worrying again...... Every object in this universe is endowed with four characteristics. They are Dharma, Karma, Prema, and Gyana. Dharma means nature. Everything has a definite nature; animate or inanimate objects. They’ve a nature. Monkeys have their nature; human beings have their nature. In the same way, metals have their nature; aluminum has its nature, copper has its nature. Nature is called Dharma. There is certain activity, definite activity, that is attributed; or that comes out of each object. It’s easy to say object, it can include also living beings. It is Karma. Then, the third is Prema, means love. There is love in every particle of this creation. Love is attraction, love means absorbing, the viscosity bring together. So many atoms come together, so molecule is made up to an object. A type of molecules and atoms get in to a shape, so we called this metal, this is copper etc. there is something that holds things together and disfrock of bringing together. Holding things together is called love or Prema. Love is present in the entire creation, in every particle of this creation. There is love and that is how there is reproduction happening. There is love, that’s how the planets are moving around orbits. There is love, so sun is shining, stars are shining. There is love in every atom, that’s why the electron is moving around the charged particle. The charge of attraction or in the entire creation is power or love. And Gyana. A body, which is listening and knows what is happening in the surrounding, is the consciousness. The knowingness present in our body also present in every particle of creation. How do we know? Only through the head? Only through the senses? No, our entire body has ability to know. The mind is not just in the head, it is all over the body. Suppose, when your name was called in a dormitory, you wake up, not the other person. But even in sleep, we have an ability to know. And this ability to know is permitting in our entire consciousness. And consciousness is present in all over the body and beyond the body; this is called Gyana. The knowingness of intelligence or the intelligence in the existence. You might have seen the touch-me-not plant; when you go near it, even if you’ve not touched it, it gets closed. The plants can feel as they know; similarly animals have their own degree of knowingness. The dog can sense, birds can sense something that is going to happen. If there is an earthquake, you can hear the birds behave few hours’ earlier making noises. Dogs can feel much earlier than you could feel it. So, there is a degree of knowingness present in the entire creation. It varies, like the level of love also varies. Say, how much love a dog expresses? Suppose you’re out even for few hours and comes back home and the dogs get crazy; jumps all over the place, jumps on sofa and jumps on you; it doesn’t know what to do. It wants to pour out all its love on you. It tries to express; it doesn’t say – I love you very much. It doesn’t say – I can’t live without you; but that moment it just flirts you with their moments. In the same way, the plants and trees in your garden do imit love, they express loves to you. What is Karma? Most used and often misunderstood word is karma. Karma is action. The action could be letting, could be in the form of tendency, and could be a future happening. So, there are three types of karma. Prarabdha, means the action which is manifest now; Sanchita Karma, means the future action which was proposed to do later; the collected karma, the present karma which is running in action and then the future karma that would happen. After listening to whatever we are discussion here now, and you’ll go back home and you might remember or you may totally forget it, this is Agami Karma; the future karma. So the impression in the mind is latent action; it is still action, but it is latent. Just like the memory; a memory functional now, other memories are latent within us. You know the mathematical table; but right now you’re not memorizing it. You no need to memorize every time; when you need it just pops up. So certain impressions, strong impressions in the mind remain and they form the future karma. Every habit is a sort of karma. Suppose you’ve been drinking coffee every morning; and one day you don’t drink, you get head ache. This is coffee karma. So, how to eliminate coffee karma? Either by drinking it or observing it. Being aware of a tendency in us will help us to overcome the tendency or experiencing the tendency will overcome the tendency. Here is the clay of Gyana, knowledge, awareness. Knowledge means the informative knowledge; here knowledge means awareness, the sense of knowingness. When you increase the sense of knowingness, your karma gets reduced. All the animals have got only the Prarabdha Karma; means the karma on which they do not have any controls. The nature runs them so they don’t accumulate a future karma. If you’re like an animal totally you don’t get any karma. But as a human being this is impossible; because our mind gets in to that impression. Now, Reincarnation – that’s another topic. Reincarnation means coming again in to a body. Our mind is energy and by the third law of thermodynamics – energy can’t be destroyed. If mind is energy, what happens to this energy when someone dies? Now when someone dies, what is happening? Death is almost like a sleep. What happens to you, when you sleep? Every night you go on to your bed and sleep and you never met you a sleep. If you meet your sleep; if you happen to understand your sleep, you can understand your death also. While sleeping, all consciousness, attempts of your mind shrinks and shrinks and then one by one you’re shut off from the outer experiences and moving inward, into a wide space. And then how you wake up in the morning; that’s the same energy, same consciousness which was shrunk now starts expanding and opens up and you wake up. When you carefully observe the mechanism the last thought that you get just before falling asleep, becomes the first thought when you wake up. This gives you a clue of your reincarnation. The mind which is full of different impressions leaves this body but the impressions remains with the mind like a balloon; and waits for a proper situation for the same mind to come down. And when there is copulation, when there is a proper room formation, then it just draws, pulls that mind into that room. And then a child is born. A body is gain. So, it is a last thought is more important. Whatever you do throughout in your life, at least in your last moment your mind should be free and happy. If you’re happy with the last moment before your leave the body, then you get a better body next time. It is almost impossible to get animal body after a human birth. It’s very rare; but still it is possible. Someone in the last moment keeps thinking about the chicken, and then he’ll born in the poultry firm. Because the last impression will be the strongest impression and that impression in that mind will produce such a circumstance, situation for the mind to come to the body. Karma is that which propels reincarnation. Stronger the impression, the nature of next life could be like that. The one thing that can erase the karma is awareness, self awareness. If you’re in total love then you’re free from karma. When you’re in total knowledge, total awareness that is what coming out of the circle of birth and death. You’re not bound by any impression; you’re free. What gives you the freedom is your awareness. Addictions are nothing but very very strong impressions in the consciousness. Whether it is alcohol, sex or drugs or anything; any addiction is like a compulsion or compulsive behavior is all is a part of karma. The karma is infinite. Creation is a not a linear function, it multi-dimensional. Truth is not linear, it is multi-dimensional. It’s like a spherical; in sphere every point is connected with so many other points; if it just a straight line one point is connected with only two points, one back and one front. But in a sphere, point is connected 3600 sides. There are many types of Karma; individual Karma, immediate family Karma, the societal Karma and time has Karma of its own too. When a plane accident happens, people of same karmas will be there. And different people of different karmas will escape from the plane as their life has not finished yet. It is almost impossible to pin down which karma brings effect what effect at deep level. Of the three different karmas, Sanchita, the karma which we’ve brought with us; Prarabdha, the karma which is yielding fruits right now; and Agami, the karma which we may incur in the future. Our Sanchita Karma, the karma which we have stored tendency can be burnt out; we can remove that, eliminate that with all this spiritual practices, prayers, service, loving people around us in the nature, meditation; all this erasing the karma which we’ve acquired. The Prarabdha karma, which is already yielding results, will have to be experienced. The third karma is Agami karma which we might meet in the future. Suppose you violate some loss of nature today and in future you’ve to experience. That is consequence. Every karma has a limited span of its results. Mainly five things come to us in our life from the Sanchita Karma. Five aspects in life came; birth and the place of birth, the parents from the past karma; your education and line of education, degree of education, how much you acquire knowledge; the wealth, the source wealth; your longevity and mode of death, how you’ll die. These five things come from Sanchita Karma, the karma we’ve acquired. Now, how rich we became, how much we can grow in awareness; our marriage, children, and our social work, all these is Agami Karma, the future karmas. And the future karma you can associate now; what you gain now becomes your future karma. So you’ve certain degrees of freedom to act now and acquire more karma. And you’ve certain fate or we call it certain destiny that you’re provided with, that you cannot change. Love is the common factor of entire creation. If you see birds, there is love in the birds. Your connectedness with that love takes beyond birth and beyond death. S.S.R.S.- 50 replies
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charlie2dogs replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
what does it matter if it is real or not, most will never know, what should be important is to achieve a state of liberation from the fictitious identity, the programing, the false belief, the desires of the identity and its ego, and be able to function in the moment of life as a being of consciousness, whereby you see the reality of the events that arise around you and within you, and you may choose to embrace or ignore what doesn't serve you well and that which would create consequences, so in reality reincarnation doesn't even matter whether it is true or not, and i think most who are talking about it are full of bull and just repeating what they have heard or read from someone else's words. If it isn't living experience for you , it ain't real- 50 replies
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Khin replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing disappear after all. Just the form changed. But then, the change = dead because the previous form is no longer there and will never be there again. The nature is impermanent. The reincarnation is real. But it just not the same as most people think.- 50 replies
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Corte replied to randombodymind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
this is only another concept, but it might shed some insight into the nature of reincarnation. I think we as humans really underestimate our power. With the help of religion we are taught that we are simple beings under the control of a higher power which we have no chance of replicating. This entire existence is because of the contrast of nothing and something. The nothingness that makes up consciousness creates everything that we know. We are a creator. There was a study done in which people were told to think about a certain phenomenon (aliens, angels, god) before entering sleep paralysis. Of course the people that believed in UFOs and alien encounters were abducted and probed in a hyperrealistic experience. The people who strongly believed in God had a spiritual experience involving angels and heaven, or an image of Jesus. They all felt this was real, and that it really took place in real space. This is why there are so many different truths that are fought over, because something is real to everyone but not everyone can believe that everything is real. People become addicted to this world and their ego so much that if they leave too soon that attachment/manifestation has so much momentum that it doesn't end with the physical body. This is why suicide doesn't help people, the pain theyre experiencing doesn't end with the body. I think one of the benefits of enlightement allows you to break free of the physical and to experience it finally without attachment, which allows you to leave this existence when your body dies. In conclusion, we experience what we believe and create. These concepts might make sense and make me feel like I know these answers, but they are only that: concepts. I think reincarnation is just as real/not real as anything else you've created. All I know is it's fascinating to think about.- 50 replies
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Pretty much every advanced spiritual teacher I have come across alludes to multiple lives. david deida mentioned it in passing saying i'm sure most of you don't feel incarnation, or reincarnation as something you could feel after you got sensative enough. When I went on a vipassina retrat gonka qouted the buddha saying that on the moment of enlightenment buddha could see all his previous lives chasing his tail etc... For years I thought they were all just a bit crazy. Then I thought about something else I didn't even used to know one could be more present, then I read a spiritual teaching about that and went wooooah you can be more present - all this self not being real stuff, everything being conscious and reinacarnation stuff is stupid though. Then I read a book about the self not being real and had some direct experiances myself and went woooooah the self could be a concept. ook that's really cool, i like the presence stuff and the self being a concept but this everything being conscious stuff is rediciouslous. Then I had some experiances where I went wooooah everything might be conscious it sure feels like it. then my mind jumped too - woah every step of the way I listened to spiritual teaches and had an experiance of deeping my awarenss and thought this is cool but I doubted the steps further ahead. When i was focused on presence, i doubted the self being made up When i was focusing on the self being made up i doubted everything being conscious When I had an experience of everything being conscious i doubted the multiple lives stuff. But what if I'm wrong and they are right. What if the spiritual teaches that new all the other stuff before me also new something i didn't in this area. THAT REALLY FREAKS ME OUT COZ i have a lot of anxiety now about doing sinful or bad karma actions and so on like greed and glutony etc as if it's no big deal. What if i'm signing a contract with the universe that's setting me up for a shitty next life. Or I am just going on my own trip and I should stop judging actions as good or bad because they're isn't some supernatural force giong around judging everyones every move. I actually don't know anymore. I feel quite devided and don't know what to make of this
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