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whatthefucksgoinon replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura infinite intelligence said when our lives end we will merge back into God does this mean a physical death or the type of death achieved through liberation. Does that mean theres no such thing as reincarnation not sure what your view is on that. -
Forestluv replied to krockerman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Egg is not a traditional view of reincarnation. According to The Egg, You are all the lives in the Universe. You are Kim Jon ung, Pewdiepie and Julen blanc. That was the whole point about how interacting with another person is interacting with Myself. You already are all people. -
Hmmm. I thought about it a bit more. I think he deconstructs separate linear lives more fully than deconstructing a timeline. I think the key deconstructions later in the video are: 4:00 - Partial deconstruction of a timeline 4:40 - Deconstruction of separate human beings begins 5:40 - Deeper deconstruction of separate humans. A partial construct of time remains. I think it is a very well-done video. I would have further deconstructed the timeline. That is, You are everyone and all things Now. (including all that "has happened" or "will happen" - without a timeline). Yet this would collapse the concept of reincarnation, since there is no longer a "re".
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A key to a deeper understanding of the video: reincarnation is not shown as simply linear.
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That's a really nice video really touching One thing I'm wondering though, in that scenario what about animals/plants-life, is there reincarnation only on human forms ?
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this video is ofc just a story. But it made me think. How does reincarnation work? does it work in similar way like in the video? @Leo Gura should make a video on this
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Aakash replied to Raptorsin7's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes the truth , what more could you want ? It’s in the name, “the absolute truth” and then from gaining the absolute truth You get to die instead of being reincarnated again these are the two things you get the absolute truth includes - all knowledge about why you built reality this way - all knowledge bout how you built reality this way and why it can’t be otherwise - all exestential answers answered - the truth about enlightenment - the absolute truth - safety in grounding your reality until you decide to consciously die - no doubts what so ever about the absolute truth under any circumstances - reflection of other people’s reality so you can understand them and appreciate them for who they are when they are talking About Absolute truth, this understanding does not pertain to non spiritual people. For this you will need spiral dynamics and experience in each section to relate. - you don’t Critise people unless they are talking about absolute infinity. Because that’s is the only occasion when there is a wrong because the absolute truth itself is dualistic. Because life itself is dualistic. There’s nothing that can get passed you at this stage, but this doesn’t apply to people above you who are trying to reach nirvana. They will correct you and your devilry. This will happen until the death of your awareness to understand the absolute truth you must accept the death of your awareness. This is the key otherwise you are imagining your own reality. The absolute truth is what ever it is. It’s not for you to make judgements and Critism about because you can not anyone because it will always fall into imagination and delusion. The word the absolute truth is a delusion or illusion. What it is pointing to is the only thing that exists and has ever existed for eternity and will ever exists. And that is you. i am pointing you to the steps of the door. First reach the steps (become enlightened and then unenlightened) and then you must walk up the steps and begin the process (losing your awareness in no mind) and then You must wait for the grace of god to grant you nirvana. It is not something you can attain. To attain something is to have something and for there to be something to be attained. What you attain is death in the form of nothing/ emptiness / love / bliss / peace / freedom .. what ever god like qualities you can use to talk about whatnot “freedom” means to you. It is “freedom” to you and that’s why we seek. We seek freedom from our bondage. Some seek the knowledge of freedom, some seek the love of the divine, some seek for the end of their reincarnation and bliss, some seek for devotion to god. What ever the path was does not matter at the steps. You must sit in no mind, without your focus. But you can not do this without a quite mind and therefore you need all exestential questions answering. Only the one who knows Absolute truth can become fully enlightened. This is what buddha meant when the 2nd fetta said, trust the buddha he reached full enlightenment. In those 30 days of sitting in the trees. He was graced by god. And when you find the absolute truth you realise the buddha was you, the god blessing was you. God is not other than you, there is no near to fear, you will be in safe hands. You must offer life for death and you must offer life for the absolute truth. Period -
Aakash replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Rupert spira does not know the absolute truth, many enlightened beings do not know the absolute truth. They never take the step to end their own awareness and therefore undergo reincarnation. But this is not the issue, their karmic body does not invite the information in at the suggestion and therefore they do not know, what they do not know. There is no such thing as an enlightened being, this is a duality ... non enlightened being vs enlightened being. He can point you to false enlightenment where as Leo is building his base up to point to the absolute truth ? It is very complicated. If you guru does not provide as much detail as Leo. Then you can garuntee he does not know the absolute truth. Hence the reason scriptures are good and they are absolute truth I can confirm (map wise not the terratory) -
Petals replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura thank you for sharing this. That was quite a 'Conversations with God' by Neale Donald Walsch flashback. I read it a few years ago. you two should have a conversation. do you think you could answer yourself questions that do not pertain to the highest non-dual level, e.g. about 'reincarnation'? -
Aakash replied to Alex bliss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Maya_0 it’s not a myth your interpreting it wrong the reason why liberation is said that you won’t be reborn is because you’ve seen through the duality of life and death and the IDEA of the death of the physical human being. They have yet to see the death of their own awareness. This is nirvana. Once they have reached this stage their enlightenemnt will carry over into their next life. They will live many A life times and never come out of their enlightened state. They could be an alien on a different planet and they would be born enlightened, the same happens here aswell. This is why some people are further than others in the journey overall to freedom. But they are still in their the form of an enlightened state, imagining themselves to have attained the great death. So they will actually remain unborn. Until they voluntarily decide to give it up and start the process over again. Enlightenment itself can never actually be attained because enlightenemnt is infinite. There are so many “forms” of enlightenment. Reaching nirvana is like starting over again but with the understanding of your true self. So you can actually achieve actual death and not the imagined death they are imagining for themselves. That’s why the religious text say freedom from bondage: end to reincarnation of life and death liberation: end of reincarnation of life and death they say the same thing and people get confused. They essentially are the same thing. One Is the imagination of it, then the person realises they are in safe hands to undergo the actual death. Unless the person is ballsy enough to undergo the straight death right away the point of enlightenment is for you to find out the absolute truth and then to actually actualise it without fear. Because what is there to fear when you are an imagination itself “an illusion” of a seperated self all you should get is the truth and then arrive right back in the same place you started to find a way to take the second part of the journey. Because realising the truth is different actualising the truth. It no longer becomes about focusing on self-awareness. But it becomes about a no mind state without focusing or having self - awareness at all. Enlightenment goes on in form for infinity. You will never reach the end because by definition you can not reach the end of infinity because it’s infinite. By this time if your not me ? you would have gained good meditative abilities. But yours truly has 50 minutes under his belt. So now I’ve made the second part even more complicated. By understanding enlightenment which was the point without doing any spiritual practices except 70,000 hours of contemplation. Which uses the mind lol and now I can’t use it so screwed you can reach enlightenment in duality becAuse it’s literally happening in front of you, you just have to look and observe direct reality itself with your own awareness because non duality IS DUALITY lol and duality is non-duality. They are identical. Which ever route you follow, both are form. Form is formless and formless is form. Both are partial truths, because the absolute truth is absolute. It’s the only thing that exists ? so you can’t really question it when everything and nothing are left out of the picture. There is no other option but to go for nirvana. You are stuck with no where to go, lol where can you go ? You are already inside absolute infinity because you are absolute infinity its literally an impossibility to doubt absolute truth and the truth about enlightenment. Literally you can’t miss it because you are all of it. Lol lol also you’ll know because there’s nothing else to do but sit in silence so you have to go and seek out a master, because the process starts again. But how do I actually do it after knowing the two options you have. Do or do not, there is no try. -
Aakash replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just listen to sadhgurus videos on a few topics surrounding death , mahasamadhi , reincarnation etc etc, if you don’t want to hear it from me. Just have what I said written beside you and just confirm each line , line by line. Find a topic about the specific line or point and it’s simple. If it says he same thing, then so be it. The problem with the absolute truth is that it’s the absolute and there’s no getting around it. No amount of suicides to your physical body will do it, you will just get reincarnated. You must die to the absolute truth. Nirvana , moksha, mahasamadhi, etc .. this is not my truth, this is the truth for all of forms in existance. The trees. The carpet, the chocolates, the rivers. All of them will have to undergo conscious death and some point in their path. All devilry will end. Because there was never any devilry in the first place. Just pure unconditional love. -
Aakash replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And don’t get it twisted.. god has definitely imagined reincarnation. Absolute infinity contains all possible things because emptiness is expanding forever nowhere in no direction at all. Creating more love and more akashik records or if you like.. more consciousness or awareness so consider this my warning: your liberation will get stripped from you. And there is no telling how many infinite lifetimes it will take for you to come back here. You would have to play out infinitely many life times as you are absolute infinity and you are all of them inside your akashik records or awareness. So enlightenment is liberation from suffering. True death or nirvana is freedom from bondage of reincarnation -
Aakash replied to Lowerplanedweller's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Lowerplanedweller I didn’t exactly use religion per say. Just information I gained while growing up. Most of my knowledge I get from 4 enlightened beings in total. It used to be around 6-8 but I’ve narrowed down who knows what and who doesn’t know. Yes but you are still limited to your imagination, infinity is not bound by such a problem. Yeah it’s best to stay balanced, I’ve tried to have imaginations of that kind of awareness and it’s trippy. I imagined a dragon and it was just in my imagination. Not visuals or anything and i tried to give it a good shot. Then it was just there in the corner of my imagination, so I created a hole and sent it through it because it would be on a side thought. So my point is, even though you can go any place, you are still localised. Remember your box extends to infinity. All box’s do. But you realise this probably because you said you will decide when to leave Yeah buddy, I thought that was my original aim. And it still is ... but ultimately it is not the end of the journey. Your box is finite and there until you break it because god loves you unconditionally. Your box awareness will not disappear upon your physical death, the duality of the box will still exists. What do people mean by mind ? They mean their box. The whole of duality Side of absolute infinity is an illusion but it exists. The box itself exists and that’s the same for all forms. The box will move around in reincarnation. Finding new forms inside of the dual absolute infinity. But what is happening really, nothing. But then there wouldn’t be a formed world ? Exactly because the box has been limited to a form. When you break the box you find out nothing actually happened. But there will no one there to have this realisation. At the end of it, you will reincarnate into a new box of awareness. But that won’t have been “your box of awareness” it is a new duality and that’s why people live different lives and different experiences, people report reincarnate into different bodies etc etc its a subtle pointer, an abstract pointer. Because you can’t point to nothing. Because you are the very thing pointing to yourself. does this accord with your own view of the situation ? Yeah I plan to do the same, I just need to plan ahead for the jump. We do preparations because it can only be given by grace. You can only store up so current in your body before you can break it. Also how will will you know for yourself that your master will be alive for you to leave ? Or have you already gone and conducted the ceremonies ? -
Aakash replied to Lowerplanedweller's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I couldn’t figure it out. But at first I thought thoughtless awareness might be the case. But It’s a starting point. You need to somehow get your awareness into the infinity stream by physically leaving your body. What it means to be “you” is you localised to the position you are currently in. Even as a thoughtless stream you are still localised to where you are. Your building up charge, right ? While your in your thoughtless awareness ? By infinity stream I mean your awareness has to expand for infinity, without ever finitely stopping and being put back into form. This is why it’s necessary to leave your human body at Minimum. It means you have to go “in” more. To the point where you are no longer going in. What you will find is your self “nowhere”. By going in you actually go outside of your body because “inside and outside Is an illusion leaving you nowhere. Nowhere is not non-existance it’s still existance but existance is infinite. Awareness is infinite but what you are is all of that infinity in a single box. But our physical bodies limit that infinity. But it’s an illusion. It’s you as god limiting yourself through human form, giving me my own PHYSICAL box of limitation. BREAK THE BOX, BREAK OUT OF REINCARNATION. why ? Because the box itself is the reason you are reincarnating. Because to absolute infinity itself. YOU DONT EXIST LOOOL! absolute infinity is infinite process! Each box an exact replica of the whole. And the whole is one box in all it’s box’s formed together. But the boxes don’t actually exist if your box to it. So neither does your box. You only think it does! your physical limitations to your box is an illusion lol you literally extend to infinity. That’s all each box is actually doing at their own rate. So overall what is happening nothing without the actually having any distinction between a box’s in your box. I.e the final collapsion of duality vs non-duality ... nothing, existance has the illusion that it’s expanding to infinity and existance is doing nothing. Where did you come from ? The part where you see absolute infintity extending for ever, where do you need to go. To the place where nothing is happening -
I always wondered why the Egg deals only with reincarnation as humans. Why not other life forms? Fish, trees, bacteria, rocks?
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Aakash replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zeroISinfinity yes, the intent of the being to end reincarnation is the intent of MYSELF all along playing. Anyways I’ve lost the taste to talk about these things without experience. I get why I can trust gurus now with their stages of enlightenment. Need to cover the basic ones for now -
zeroISinfinity replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Question about reincarnation. You've chosen this life and You Will choose next one. How, why? Because You are God. But You are still playing games. You are making them. -
Matt8800 replied to Matt8800's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@ActualizedDavid 1. I believe in reincarnation. I have read the studies by Ian Stevenson and the critiques but have not found an argument against that doesnt violate Occams Razor. 2. No, that would imply that there is an opposite of the All/Source/Braham, which includes all dualities of good and evil. There are evil beings and good beings (relative to a human perspective) and beings all along the spectrum in between, just like people. 3. That enlightenment is not really as difficult as many think. The biggest thing that holds people back is their fear of letting the ego die and fully acknowledging what that means. 4. I had been obsessed with the nature of consciousness for sometime so I sought out some DMT to investigate my consciousness. I met my spirit guide and my life was radically changed forever in one night. That was 3.5 years ago and ive mediated every day since. I spent 1.5 years heavily studying and practicing buddhism. Then I studied and practiced yoga. I finally started studying the energetic traditions about a year ago and found my way to the Occult. 5. I was raised in a Christian cult. It turned me off but I had felt spirituality enough that I knew there was "something" out there. It was a long search to get where I am now (Im almost 50). 6. Yes, I believe so although Satan is not what Christians claim he is. He is a dark spirit that surprisingly works towards his devotees eventual evolution to the light. This was a surprise to me considering my Christian background. Satan attracts people that get off on darkness and thats not my thing however. -
ActualizedDavid replied to Matt8800's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
1. What are your views on reincarnation , afterlife ? 2. Is there a devil ? I do not mean selfishness , i mean a devil ? https://youtu.be/2ZpRXQlkTYs 3. What are are the things that enlighten teachers do not share ? 4. How did you get into spirituality? 5. What was your background , religious wise. 6. Is there a Jesus, Shiva,isis, horus , satan ? https://youtu.be/HrVXMgLyrBI Minute 3:10 -
Inliytened1 replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash i think you understand things, but then you try overthink it thinking you don't..and then you end up jumbling everything up in your mind and it gets mushed all together leaving you a vegetable LOL. Like duality is all devilry, etc etc. It is OK to dwell in form because it itself is Love and Creation. Devilry, or Good and Evil, are dualities which Collapse into Absolute Goodness ÷ Absolute Love. God wants to experience limitation and limitation means there will be suffering and devilry. You can collapse these while still in the physical world..its not easy but you can. So don't think you have to leave your body to achieve Nirvana - it is right here its just that most are not that conscious. All of us have work to get to that level of consciousness. The reincarnation topic about continually Reincarnating if you don't leave the world of form - well - if Nirvana is both then it shouldn't matter. Either realm is the same as they are One. Its just a choice the enlightened Being can make. -
tsuki replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash I think you are missing the deeper point. Mystical experiences aren't 'mine'. They reveal what lies beyond, my true nature. You are not the body. They you that is in the mind is within the body, and the body is within God, which is you. You are being yourself in your godly contracted human form. Being your infinite self is not any better, because you are your infinite self RIGHT NOW. The unfolding is Love, and Love is your direct contact with your ultimate self, Divinity. It is Love regardless of whether any particular human realizes it. In this sense, human suffering is illusory. The question is: what makes a person seek? The answer is: that, which passes from body to body upon reincarnation. Consecutive lives are not arbitrary. The seeds of karma are planted. -
Matt8800 replied to TrynaBeTurquoise's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@mandyjw If you see Jesus come and speak to you directly, that could be valid. I said that Jesus was most likely a powerful, enlightened Qabbalist mystic but that gives no validity to stories from other people. For example, early Christians believed in reincarnation, which would make sense because that is what Kabbalah believes. The belief of reincarnation was banned at the council of Nicea by the early church. There are many more examples of manipulation of beliefs by the church. Would you really choose to believe the document that you know has been changed and manipulated as an instrument of control? Why? Relying on what other people say he said is just hearsay and unreliable. A lot of people say a lot of nonsense. If Jesus is powerful, he can tell you himself (I believe his power and spirit does speak to people). -
Aakash replied to Jack River's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zeroISinfinity so we are the same being and I never underwent reincarnation. The process can be described as reincarnation for how I create the idea of false self through an idea of birth and death ? -
Aakash replied to Jack River's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks god the emptiness is pure love which is different to what I think of love But this thing inside my skull. How is it related to myself. (P.s I’m not debating that myself is not the true self, all of it is me... kind of thing) I just don’t get what I am then ? was I created by myself via some sort of thought or am I myself tricking myself into being a small self or am I imaginary and unreal or am I imaginary and real but an illusion. Or did I actually undergo reincarnation, or is this a story I have told myself over the years to explain the true self. -
Aakash replied to Jack River's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Lool following this so called love, gets you to less ego density, which is more ego development and therefore enlightenment. The issue is not that you are an ego, the issue is that you have a label “me” which has identified with the ego as a thought. Love let’s you see that “me” is universal. Which does not require ego development to do, you could just use god to cut through everything as a stepping stone. , is “me” exist or not ? I have yet to figure this one out. Trying to ask people about reincarnation. But safhguru just said know that this is nonsense - _ -