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@Inliytened1 Are you talking about reincarnation? In terms of Leo dying many times? Like reborn as Leo this time but was someone else before?

@Schahin reincarnation is real mate, but humans don't reincarnate. God reincarnates as humans and you are God. People think "I am a human with God inside me" when it's actually "I am God with a human outside of me" kinda lol

Wow ok, had you experiences with other psychedelics. How can you relate it difference and effect wise? Does it bring you closer to truth/enlightenment? I find it funny how ayahuasqueiros have different opinions on reincarnation and all and 5 Meo experienced people dont believe in reincarnation at all.

I was at the beach here in Kalamata, Greece the other day collecting sea glass and colorful pebbles. I do great thinking when I do this and invariably when I get a good idea I find an absolutely perfect piece of class or an extremely beautiful stone. I like to tell myself that it is God validating my thoughts. Concurrently I absolutely understand that WHATEVER appears in my life at any given moment I AM responsible for. And there is no GOD as in HE. (not even SHE Lol) This gets a little kinky cause I refrain from saying, "I believe…" like in I believe in God or I believe in reincarnation. It cracks me up how people love to go all philosophical and try to convince each other that what they believe is the way it is. Then they judge themselves and others according to these beliefs. Just because someone believes something doesn't mean that's the way it is. Or is it? For them. Literally. For real. Like if I don't like my circumstances I can change my thinking about my circumstances and my circumstances will change. If I change my beliefs I change my life. The implications of this are astounding. And therein lies my mission. Well one of my missions. Remember that I said that I am codependent to the world? That's only a minor exaggeration. So here's another little story. This one is present time, the day before yesterday in fact when I was at the beach collecting. On Monday I spoke to my brother G's wife, N. They and their 2 kids live in my house in California. Life is extremely difficult for them and I was plunged into sadness, concern, and stress at the magnitude of the problems. So I'm focused, focused, focused and then I got an idea. And then I started with one of my conversations with God. I know darn well that I am not hearing God's voice in my head. You will be one of the first to know if I ever do I promise. It's just me talking to myself in my mind but bear with me as I give God a voice. So I'm saying, "Ah come on God. Not that. I don't want to do that. This isn't fair. That's being codependent and I'm having enough trouble with that as you well know." So God says, "You promised back in 1980 that if I let you do it your way and kept you safe that you would be mine and not forsake me. Well, I kept my part of the bargain and I'm calling in my chips now." And then I find one of the most beautiful little stones imaginable. See Cousin, I am going to ask you to do something. So I tell God that it is not fair to ask anything of you cause I don't even know you and I just dropped in out of the blue after a lifetime of barely even knowing that you are alive and for all I know I am now a pain in your brain cause I am reminding you of things that you have put behind you and am making demands on your time of which you have none of. So God says, "And so…?" So I say, "Ok, if I can do 45 sit-ups I'll ask him." (I did 30 the other day after a lifetime of not exercising so 45 was gonna be hard but not impossible. I only push the miracle stuff so far.) God says, "It's a deal but you have to give it all you've got." So I did 45 sit-ups.

I am so tired of suffering which is going on for 14 years. And every time new issues arise which increase the burden. Meditation was my hope to be happy. I don't believe in hell after life or reincarnation. So I contemplate suicide. There is no point in continuing it. I disgust myself. I hate God (if there is). I just want to disappear and not to be part of anything. Not to reborn, not to be part of God, just not to exist. I hope everything will end after my death.

Just gotta brag that I met him at a workshop. I love the guy, x100 in person. Great pioneer. Yea, his other books are on a variety of topics. He is a bit aware of Ken Wilber and spiral dynamics, certainly of Stan Grof, and many others. He writes on a variety of things, but one book calleed Lifecycles is just on reincarnation.

In his book LSD and the mind of the universe Bache speaks about how science has evidence for past lives and reincarnation: "After years of study, I have come to accept reincarnation as a natural fact of life. I accept it not on the bias of faith but on the Basis of strong empirical evidence. […] The discovery of Children from around the world who have active memories of their most recent lives, memories that have been documented and verified through careful Research, stands as one of the great Achievements of our time. With decades of meticulous Research, Ian Stevenson, the Carlson Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia from 1967 to 2001, has proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I think, that reincarnation is simply true." (p 89)

I think everything there is, already happened, and is happening at the same time. I think it has to. I don't think there is any other way. I used to think I was talking to "God" as a child (laying in bed and in my head), I didn't believe in any religion, but I had this weird faith that someone was listening. I'd sit there and genuinely wish for something to happen, good things, bad things, they all always come true years later after I've forgotten about it. I'd assume every reincarnation you just pick whichever soul you'd like to experience, or you are a soul and you're just picking an avatar, because you wanna experience what that vessel did. Kind of like a game, who do I feel like playing today? Evil doesn't exist until you start the game so anything goes, almost like its just what you're in the mood for after playing the game over and over again there is always something new. But it already happened, you're just picking a time slot somewhere in the world of infinity and that's it. I really don't think reality is what people think, how it's constantly new and stuff added on at "random" or whatever. It only makes sense that it already happened and you just forget the future because you chose the soul only for 1 small unconditional/unbiased experience. I feel alive right now as i'm typing this, i'm watching it, you'll read it as I post it. But it wouldn't shock me if I play your vessel reading this 100 years from now, but it's happening at the same time. I don't know how this wouldn't be possible.

mhhh do you remember the coming of the antichrist? the prophesies point towards so many different happenings and all are in a sense pointing towards the same. but it really depends on who interpreted the same phenomenon - for example there are people who say the age of aquarius is near - also you don’t know exactly if and when a buddha is among us in an earlier reincarnation and what it is which is there to live through to then really change the world and rewire the people into the buddha’s to come devine streangth. a prophesy is a prophesy - some were made to be broken.

That's what I've been doing or trying to do for quite some time. I've been taking frequent, solo investigative trips since I was 22 (27 now) and have connected to 'source' as you call it on several occasions. Been contemplating and meditating steadily for about 2,5 years and am committed to being as authentic as possible. Over time I've had some improvement (regaining the ability to sleep, mild reduction of symptoms) but currently nothing indicates it will heal. I'm keeping an open mind of course and do try not to turn this into a limiting belief. I added the 'take for granted' caveat because I wanted to know what the best practices are IF my body situation does not improve, but this is not a fixed belief. Curious what your take on this is, @Leo Gura: My last LSD trip (about 300µg) I became intensely 'aware of awareness' and surrendered myself completely to awareness, dissolving in it. Subsequent to this my body began to behave entirely of its own accord, as if it was an entirely external thing unfolding of itself (it was no longer 'me'). My body lay down on the floor, shaking its head and contorting its spine, stretching itself out out (especially around the cheeks and neck) in very intense ways. During this experience, I got flashes of what I at that moment I interpreted as memories of a past life-- images of an underworld filled with prostitution and I 'sensed' even darker things such as murder. The idea arose that I was a portal of human misery, that it was my 'cosmic purpose' to bear the pain of other beings and that my existence had no other function beyond that. At some point 'I' returned and took back control over the body. My body made further attempts to contort and twist, which was frightening, but these attempts subsided as I blocked this process. I cried for hours after that but this wasn't experienced as a negative per se, felt cathartic. Do you think I should have let my body continue to do what it wanted to do? I stopped the process because it felt very dangerous but I also realize that letting it happen might been very cathartic. I'm not sure how I relate to the idea of past lives. I try to be agnostic about everything but I don't know how to wield the past lives/reincarnation model to understand my predicament with, or if that would be a useful thing to do. (Also, my first sexual experiences were with prostitutes and I only after developed the ability to approach women and form something of a connection with them, so ambiguous feelings about that might have played into my above described LSD experience, but I don't know.) Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Continuation of the previous post (typed only 10 days later lel) Until at some point whilst traveling back to the airbnb in Germany just over the border north of Basel (I had explored Basel that day), the thought suddenly came in that… What if it’s all just okay? What if committing suicide is not tragic? What if I stop saying to myself that it’s not okay to do it? What if I stop thinking of suicide as a failure of life? What If I completely give myself a free pass to be able to do it? And suddenly I realized that perhaps the idea that suicide was something to be avoided was simply not true. And this realization evoked such a tremendous feeling of peace and relief in me. I suddenly felt like there was absolutely no requirements for me anymore on at least the level of action that life required from me. I suddenly felt such an immense feeling of relief and elation, and… freedom. Yes, that’s what it was. Total freedom. The freedom to be and do whatsoever you want. The feeling that every possible outcome was totally okay. And the interesting thing is, with this feeling of elation and freedom and peace, then who the hell feels interested to commit suicide in that state? For what? That’s the great paradox. Total acceptance of the idea of suicide creates total peace, and in total peace, nobody is really interested in taking their own lives. That’s why I promote people accepting their suicidality. Not even so much because then they won’t commit suicide, but because then it will take them out of their suicidal struggles. They then will come to know what peace is, if they really fully grasp this realization. I have however heard of sages who choose suicide whilst being very conscious. Perhaps it’s just them being able to leave the body at will without needing to hang or shoot themselves or whatever, but it’s the same concept. There may be a way to choose your own death that does not involve or is based on a lot of despair. But for one to have this realization that I had, one has to let go of many assumptions. 1. One has to let go of the assumption that you would do harm to friends and relatives. You do harm them, but that does not mean that that harm would be a wrong thing if you look from the perspective of the absolute. It may trigger existential questioning in them which would help them to evolve quicker on their own path. 2. One has to let go of the assumption that you would face some kind of punishment for committing suicide, or that it otherwise would be a bad thing. I’m talking about either the creation of karmic debt, or the idea that religion has about ending up in hell. 3. Related to the point above (but not the same), one also has to let go of the idea that committing suicide is a wastage of life and therefore some form of sin. I don’t think I really wanna talk about why the idea of something like a geographical hell is totally irrational and how it has been used to manipulate people by invoking fear in them. I feel like this doesn’t require too much deep introspection, research and contemplation for one to come to the insight that the idea of hell is very much based on fear instead of truthfulness. But the idea that you would face karmic punishment or that otherwise just the general attitude that committing suicide is some form of sin or wastage, is one I want to address. From an atheistic standpoint, if a moment is all that one would be, then why should it matter if it ends sooner or later? There is only sentimental attachments to life, but no real valid reason as to why one shouldn’t be able to commit suicide. Atheists may get this sense of being a failure or having ‘wasted’ their lives if they commit suicide, but this idea doesn’t really hold much ground. It’s more about the story they tell themselves about what suicide means. But in reality, it holds no true ground. And even if you’re a failure for ending your own life, then simply be a failure. What does it matter if you’re a failure or not, taken in the perspective that you are literally nothing n comparison to the infinite scope of existence. What does one more failure really signify? One may come to take the sentiment of not wanting to hurt others again, but again, just because they are hurt by your suicide, doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t necessarily be for the greater good, as it provokes things and puts pressure to evolve on people. And for the one that believes in reincarnation, karmic punishment or retribution or whatever… Well, taking in the scope if the totality of existence… Why do we suffer in the first place? Why would we struggle in the first place? Is putting an end to suffering —the whole wheel of suffering throughout the reincarnations— as quickly as possible really the ultimate ideal? Do we just experience suffering to get rid of it as quickly as possible? Then why are we here experiencing suffering in the first place? That is even assumed that there would be some karmic drawback to committing suicide, and that it additionally would increase the total sum of suffering you would come to experience throughout your incarnations. And do we really know that that is true? Perhaps when one commits suicide, one chooses to do so because one sees the circumstances in his current incarnation (on an unconscious level) as unfit to continue with that incarnation, and therefore chooses to commit suicide so one can choose once again to reincarnate in a different set of circumstances that would be much more ideal for the continuation of his/her spiritual development. Possibly suicide can even be a wise choice to make. Who knows? But I don’t except most people to be able to have the realization to the same extent that I had because most people are too attached to some assumption or judgement about what suicide means for them, and what suicide means n the larger context of things. For most people, I think I would clarify to them both what valid reasons there can be to take their own lives, and what reasons there can be to fully commit to life, and then I would allow them to make the choice. I think for most people in a suicidal position, it requires a commitment and a very deliberate act of will to get out of it (in whatever way they choose to get out of it). For some other people, it may require them to very deliberately try to fully accept all of their circumstances and their negative feelings and just make ‘trying to let go and accept’ their practice. I feel almost tempted to call them the ‘power of now-people’. Of course, trying to let go isn’t the same as actually letting go, as they may not be able to actually fully let go through insight and realization, but it may take them further along their path. For some other people, perhaps their appropriate primary focus is doing a lot of introspection and contemplation about what it all means, what’s life all about, how suicide fits into the picture… They perhaps need some time to ‘figure it all out’, to really think about the most fundamental questions of existence. And once again for some other people, they simply fully understand the insight that I had had when I was in/near Basel in Switzerland in 2018. They realize that there is absolutely nothing wrong with suicide. These people come to experience that if there is no reason to fear death, that it simultaneously allows them to fully dive into life also without any struggle. Life opens up to them. One can only be fully alive if one has fully let go of either the desire or fear of death. People who on some conscious or unconscious level either desire or fear death (usually both), can never come to know what it means to be fully alive. Granted, this realization that I had in Switzerland isn't something that became fully embodied on a permanent basis —I'm certainly not fully enlightened yet (if ever)— but the realization did have a tremendous impact nevertheless and it is probably the most impactful insight that I've ever had.

Rebirth/reincarnation.... karma follows.

I am going to share a perspective that you guys might find interesting. Firstly a short thing about, the "zodiac signs". Zodiac signs are based on where was the sun placed when something was born, the Sun being the most powerful energy source around. But this is extremely limiting. One can not extract any serious interpretation just based on the Sun, there are far more influences to be taken into consideration, in many cases the Sun is not that major of a player. As you see on the chart bellow. The reason you see it work and it makes sense is because popular newspaper astrologers mix up this overarching sun influence along with basic human nature and create interpretations that can work for almost anything. They can be quite vague. If you take the greater astrological perspective into consideration: What creates the personality of things is the interplay of all the influences, the time and the place of birth of a thing on earth. Which gives a chance for huge amounts of unique personalities of any organism. Now think about this. Try to look at it from the perspective of holons (a whole, that is a part of a bigger whole). Lets say we start from a cell as an complete organism. You can start from quarks or atoms if you will. Multiple cells = organ Multiple organs = organic system Multiple organic systems = human Multiple humans = family Multiple families = town Multiple towns = nation Multiple nations = race Multiple races = humanity Multiple living organism groups = biosphere Multiple spheres = earth Multiple planets = solar system and so on These are all organisms, collective forms of consciousness. The earth is alive and conscious and so are the other planets. Its just far beyond of our level of perception. Just like ants can't perceive us, we are like the slow moving planets to them. These planets communicate with each-other, they share their energies. Just like cells in a body, or just like we talk here. The result being that these energies reach earth and its sub-holons and affect it in numerous unique ways. In a way this planetary rig, this cosmic clock is what allows us to be human, if a planet were to be destroyed, or a new one came into the system, or if we went to mars, we would become different beings, in minor or major ways. You can't just unplug from earth and plug yourself into mars and be the same. It has different energy.They are like chakras of the solar system and they transmit their energies constantly. Sometimes these energies complement, sometimes contradict, it is like a dance, sometimes it is a tango, sometimes is polka, sometimes is metal headbanging. What creates the personality is the snapshot of the current present energies on that spot in space and time when an organism is born (human, family, corporation, state). All these have energetic signatures. And what the "predictions" are is how this birth-snapshot plays with the current energies. Note that not all organisms have the same amount of chakras that we do. This explains in a beautiful way, how can one find the perfect body for ones lessons when reincarnation happens. Now just for the sake of imagination. Try the imagine the plethora of beings that were born in different solar systems. How different can they be. The amount of sci fi material that can be born out of this is endless. On a final note, try not to box people into astrological memes. its far more complex. And if you are delving into it, try not to fall into the common trap of living in the future by predicting-expecting things instead of living in the moment. its a tool Its a map Some links to open up your minds. Enjoy

What kind of life will I live if I dont marry, have kids? I hate God. He breaks the rule of Nature. Man should not be attracted to a man. I am becoming gay, releasing repressed emotions. I see it clearly. It is not a joke. My mind cant handle such a radical and disgusting change. I hope there is no reincarnation. I pity my parents and relatives. It will be a shock for them. There has never been a homosexual among my relatives.

Hey @Angelite, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Karma is usually associated with religions of the far East - Buddhism and Hinduism - and is related to the idea that an individual soul traverses various bodies until it attains wisdom/liberation. Each life is a lesson for this soul and is a consequence of how it shaped itself in (or responded to) the lives it went through. The original "seeds" of karma are created along with the universe. In various religions, this karmic process is interpreted on different levels. Some religions view it in a materialistic, objective, way. Some, on the other hand prefer more esoteric views (such as Zen Buddhism) that this is the process by which thoughts arise in consciousness. In Yoga Sutras, it is said that by mediating (satori) upon the "I", the karmic seeds are dissolved and it is possible to attain knowledge of past lives (as siddhi). My personal beliefs about reincarnation hinge upon my understanding of the relationship between intelligence and ego. Ego literally feeds off intelligence and uses it for the purpose of survival. Upon the death of the body, the soul is freed from its biological constraints and perceives the world with unparalleled clarity. The soul then chooses, selflessly, the best possible action and it may result in an incarnation in a body. Lives it lives through, apart from being a chance to act in accordance with love, are a lesson that the soul learns in each cycle. Ultimately, they result in the union with God.

Many cultures and religions believe reincarnation is real. But has that been proven with 100% facts?. Oh no, it is just a belief and so it is a choice to go along. In reality, each one of us is unique. There will never be anyone exactly like you. When a man dies, he will be waiting for the afterlife...

@Buba I feel for you, 14 years is such a long time to be in pain. To suppress a part of yourself and have an inner conflict about it. I'm glad to know you're getting therapy for this, and that it seems to be helping. I remember Leo talking about expressing the repressed part of ourselves in his videos - it might be the mini-series on 'How Fear Works', perhaps someone here knows. If you have inner gay feelings try to acknowledge, accept and love them, as a valid part of yourself, even if you don't go and actually have a gay relationship. It could be you are bisexual and capable of loving both men and women, but your social conditioning has caused this inner conflict. If you are bi you can still have the life of your dreams, perhaps with a woman, once you have been through the transformation of self acceptance and self love. Although I live in a country that's fairly tolerant of LGBT, not all places are, so that could be an issue too. I don't know about actual life after death, reincarnation, heaven & hell etc. I rationalise these stories as states of mind in this life, in the present moment. For example, realising that the sense of self, I, is reborn moment by moment from the energies of the mind.

@Buba Well, those thoughts too. I was just asking if you were aware of the thoughts, and the coming & going of them. Finding out the answer on reincarnation, and moving forward from that pain, are really the same thing.

@Buba Reincarnation is real. But nobody reincarnates.

@Buba People can have whatever opinions they want but Ian Stevenson's research seems to indicate reincarnation is very much a reality. Ive read Stevenson's work and the critiques of his work and I found that every single one of the critiques violated Occam's Razor. People tend to be pulled by their biases depending on the dogma of the spiritual tradition or "teacher" they follow.

@Buba bro, it sounds like you're in a bad place, are you asking this because you're feeling suicidal? If you are, please seek professional help urgently rather than expecting reincarnation to solve your problems. We need to start from where we're at, and make gradual steps in real life to find happiness, instead of thinking the grass is greener somewhere else.

I hope my next reincarnation will be much better. I just want simple happiness. I dont want to be God.

Is Reincarnation Real? How does it work? If someone commits suicide, to what kind of a life will he reincarnate? Will he start from zero in terms of consciousness work or will he continue from where he stopped?

I can't sleep. I went to bed at 7 p.m. and woke up at 2 p.m. Lots of thoughts about reality, God, Christianity, Islam, reincarnation, Hermeticism and my threefold division of experience. I may have to start an insight journal soon to offload them. The social media/music detox is a success in the sense that I'm munching on Wikipedia instead .

I'm not just new to Qran, but also to religion in the common sense in general. I was born and raised atheist. From my limited knowledge, what Christians call "the day of Resurrection" refers to Jesus' second coming during the Apocalypse (but I may be wrong in this matter). Does Qran address the Apocalypse? Who is the person that is resurrected during Qran's day of Resurrection? Does Jesus hold any special place in Islam's analogue of the Holy Trinity? Is there any analogue of it? Is Christ "Word made flesh": an incarnation of Logos that is sent by God to teach humans His ways? Alright, that's clear. How does this relate to reincarnation? Do people get reincarnated as lower forms because they have inflicted hurt on others and have not been forgiven/dealt with? That makes retribution an act of mercy because unless you give your hurt back, you are condemning your enemy to be reincarnated. When does reincarnation of an individual soul stop in Islam? Is it when the soul achieves certain purity through forgiveness ("Higher ranks")? How does forgiveness and purity relate to Jesus? Is he a special person (or God?) in this regard? This picks my interest, tell me more about it. I can see that may relate to the passage that you mentioned ("So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection"). What are these two groups? Which among Christians want to kill Jesus?