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Well, no one is asking you to commit suicide by badminton.

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@theoneandnone Well i cant reply to you if you keep threatening suicide because i don't want to be the one to trigger someone into suicide. If you need help you can ask.

- No, I just repeatedly point out to you the expulsions began before the 1948 invasions, this is the sixth time I am saying this. Even during an invasion, that doesn’t justify war crimes. Just because you’re fighting a war doesn’t mean you are no allowed to do whatever you want to civilians. They didn’t need to go from village to village slaughtering civilians and driving out thousands by force from their homes because at the same time they were fighting Arab armies. (Again, they were already doing this before any Arab army invaded) - because you’re ignoring the context of the Arab riots, this was in response to active colonization of their land. The hebron massacre you keep pointing out for example happened after zionists were marching with weapons chanting the country is there’s. The nebu masa riot escalated from a Jewish milita shooting at an Arab militia that was in a Jewish area searching for French soldiers. - you can’t seem to process that entire populations are not collectively responsible for actions by some of them, and that doesn’t justify crimes committed years later. Imagine there is a race riot in New York between blacks and whites, let’s some it’s started by black rioters, so a year later whites form a armed militia who begins carrying out bombings, the blacks start forming their own militias and also attacking, then the whites start killing thousands of blacks and expel hundreds of thousands of blacks from the city. The original race riot does not justify carrying out terrorist attacks against other people, the fight between militias does not justify mass ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of people who are not involved just because they’re the same race. You never apply this logic to the other side, do you think Hamas is justified in suicide bombings because Palestinians faced settler attacks for years? Do you think the Arab states that expelled their Jews were justified because they had fought a war?

They aren't resentful of what was done to them, but of being Jews in Palestine. The Tutsis are less resentful of the Hutus than the Palestinians with the Jews, and this was a real genocide. They are coexisting and improving Ruanda now. Crimea was populated by Tatars for centuries; Stalin deported them, then they returned, and now they're there as a minority, and they're not immolating themselves every two days. The Sahrawis feel oppressed by Morocco, and they're not stabbing Moroccans as their primary goal in life The Chechens were crushed by Putin, and they haven't spent 100 years educating their 3-year-olds to commit suicide. In fact they are Putin's friends now. This is a purely religious conflict, and if you don't see it, you're blind, with all your tons of information. Why turkey or Iran and so concerned by Israel? Why they are not concerned about the tartars in Crimea, or Chechenia, or about the Sahara?

@Sugarcoat I have figured out another reason not to kill yourself. It is a framework that acknowledges the reality of suicide without moralizing against you. Basically, if you are suicidal, then most likely you are dealing with circumstances that no human being should have to cope with. In this sense it is not really about you, but rather something deeply unfair and difficult that overwhelms your ability to cope. What this means is that you need help coping with an impossible situation. The problem is that our current system is often dysfunctional and fails people who reach out for help by prescribing pills that make things worse. Therefore, if I feel suicidal, then I want help coping with something extremely difficult. However, the reason people do kill themselves is if they feel that they cannot be helped. From this point of view, if I am suicidal then I want to reach out to every possible source I can imagine in the hopes of finding one person who cares, as this is what it takes to start making things at least a little bit better. It makes sense to approach suicidal thoughts in this way if you are approaching the ultimate final decision to take your own life.

I agree legal assisted suicide should be available in all 50 states

I am discouraging it, But in a nutshell I find suicide as valid if one is suffering immensely enough. Shit I think I’ll do it eventually and I would hate for someone tell say “oh don’t go we need you here” bla bla fck offf

Where is there to go? The common assumption behind suicide is that you'll go into this lovey dovey plane of existence where all your worries and problems will melt away, escaping the problems ur facing on earth. Is that guaranteed though? Is it true? For all I know, my life after death could be worse. Many people report hellish NDE experiences. After reading many NDE reports, I have this intuition that suicide in many cases is the too obvious answer. People get lectured in their life reviews telling them how much of a selfish asshole they were etc etc. I think if someone is truly suicidal, they should probably go balls to the wall in spirituality since they have nothing to lose either. My personal theory is that some form of kamma is real. We don't know what any of us did in our past lives but it might come boomeranging back relentlessly. What I think matters is intentions behind suicide. Are they pure? Since most things in the universe are cyclic in some kind of way, it's no wild assumption to also assume birth and death is also cyclic (rebirths). If one's intentions are relatively pure (eg. if one has attained a very high integrated spiritual state but is suffering a terminal illness) then suicide would be considered tbh. If I were to commit suicide, I would settle my business here on earth and repay my debts to society, my family and others who have helped me. And I would have attained a highly integrated spiritual state which even carries over to my daily life (like an arahant). For me that would be a blameless suicide. Point is, I don't think suicide is the escape most people think it is. Who can prove existence after suicide isn't more suffering than what one intended to escape? Im not some new ager "life is a school!" type either. The suffering is definitely there and it does seem senseless and meaningless for many. But I do think most suicides has some form of metaphysical consequences. For terminal illness and chronic unbearable physical pain, sure I can see why it would be done. For most people I think, mental problems can be worked on and overcome instead of going straight into the deep end and dying. But for many, it does get to that point unfortunately may they rest in peace. - me as a guy who's been suicidal for 5-6 years ever since being a teen actually. My suicidality lessened a lot when I realised my suicide isn't exactly the escape that I romanticised it to be. I have a lot of work to do. If you go hardcore into what buddhism teaches, you may find some satisfying conclusions and answers. Classic buddhism won't alleviate all suffering in this life but it will prevent future suffering from future rebirths.

🔹 1. What the Oslo Accords established Signed between Yitzhak Rabin (Israel) and Yasser Arafat (PLO) under U.S. mediation (Bill Clinton), the Oslo Accords (1993–1995) aimed to create a gradual path toward peace and a Palestinian state. They had three main pillars: Mutual recognition: The PLO recognized Israel’s right to exist. Israel recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. Progressive Palestinian autonomy: Israel would gradually withdraw from parts of Gaza and the West Bank. The territories would be divided into three zones: Area A: full Palestinian civil and security control. Area B: Palestinian civil control, joint Israeli security control. Area C: full Israeli control. Final-status negotiations within five years (by 1999): To decide issues such as borders, Jerusalem, refugees, and security. 🔹 2. Why Israel did not fully comply Ongoing terrorism (1994–2001): After Oslo, suicide bombings by Hamas and Islamic Jihad increased sharply. More Israelis were killed in terror attacks in the five years after Oslo than in the five years before. This made much of Israeli society lose trust in the Palestinian leadership’s intentions. Domestic political change: In 1995, Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist. In 1996, Netanyahu (Likud) came to power, opposed to Oslo’s approach. From then on, right-wing governments slowed or froze further withdrawals. Unresolved issues: Israel demanded full security guarantees before further concessions. The PLO failed to dismantle its armed factions. Key topics like Jerusalem and settlements were postponed indefinitely. 🔹 3. Why the Palestinians also failed to comply The PLO never formally recognized Israel as a Jewish state. Terrorist groups continued to operate —often tolerated or supported by the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority did not build democratic institutions; corruption and internal power struggles weakened it. 🔹 4. The outcome Between 1993 and 2000, there were economic improvements and some cooperation, but no political progress. In 2000, Arafat rejected the Camp David offer, which included a Palestinian state on about 92% of the West Bank and all of Gaza. Soon after, the Second Intifada broke out (2000–2005), killing more than 4,000 people. 🔹 5. Summary ActorWhat they failed to doReason IsraelComplete withdrawals, freeze settlementsTerrorism, political shifts, loss of trust Palestinian Authority (PLO)Stop terrorism, accept final peaceInternal divisions, Islamist pressure ResultCollapse of trust and of the peace process 💬 Conclusion: Israel partially complied (withdrawals from Gaza and Jericho, creation of the Palestinian Authority) but halted the process after waves of terrorism and political change. The PLO did not stop violence or build credible governance. Both sides broke the mutual trust that Oslo required —and the peace process collapsed.

I appreciate the sentiments, I know I’m clogging up this forum with this shit and I’m sorry but if solipsism is the ultimate end goal I refuse to do it. I refuse to stay in this dream talking to myself no matter how much I accept the synchronicities… the obvious proof etc I still reject it. I understand the complexity of solipsism etc. but I refuse to be god jerking off in his dream playing with himself. And I totally understand suicide discouragement etc obviously but if it’s my own self talking to me why the hell would I care. Has no weight to it it’s like a dream character saying “don’t leave us” Of course you guys don’t want me to leave because the fucking game and dream ends with me. This is not bashing Leo btw or anyone. (Or myself) lol.

Nice! Here are some sources: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/ «Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent» https://examine.com/research-feed/study/1rEBVd/ «In cohort studies, the highest category of coffee intake (compared to the lowest) was associated with a 11% lower risk of depression. A dose-response analysis indicated a 4% lower risk of depression for each 240 mL per day increase in coffee intake. Similarly, higher coffee intake was associated with a 22% lower odds of depression in cross-sectional studies.» https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html «Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.» I can't advise you to start, but I don't think you should be afraid to try.

Danm, I had no idea. I don't drink coffe, should i start? Although never experience a serious suicide thoughts in life, maybe depression (not sure).

I don't think coffee is very comparable. Those who don't drink coffee have a higher risk of depression and suicide than those who do, and if you force ChatGPT to answer yes or no on whether coffee is healthy or not, the answer is yes. Enjoy your coffee without guilt, I say!

@Aciddhartha I get what you’re saying because I’m in that same headspace. I also yearn for death sometimes, but what stops me is exactly what you’re describing — not knowing what’s on the other side. People talk about suicide like it’s a clean ‘escape,’ but when you’re honest about it, you realise it might be horrendous, messy, humiliating, even panic‑filled at the moment of dying. And then, if there is something after death, it could be infinite madness with no take‑backs. So you end up in this bind: told to ‘appreciate the now’ while sitting in a mouldy bedroom, broke no matter how much you budget, watching the world burn in a trash bucket. You can’t wish your life away, but you can’t really live it either. It’s like being held between two walls — you see everything clearly, but there’s nowhere to move. Some days I feel like I’d need a lobotomy just to make the bind stop. I’m saying this not to be dramatic but because I think it’s the honest reality for people like us.

How old are you? Do you have close family members? From my understanding when people cross over to the other side because of suicide they experience their life review and if that person commits suicide , they will experience the pain of that decision from every person who knew them because you are always connected to all that it is and connected to other people even if it doesn’t feel like it. In your natural state which is pure spirit , suicide is always the wrong choice because you came to this life to learn lessons so that you can grow as spirit. you are more powerful than you think as a spirit, as pure concsousiness. you might not resonate with that I said but I just wanted to say it.

Every suicide breaks even strangers hearts

@Elliott I don't know you man, like this isn't a teeny tumbler thread but a literal loaded question and dead serious I need answers, there should be legalised government assisted suicide outside of just being a terminally ill patient so people should have the right to exit, at the same time more spiritual philosophical ground works about what happens after such a decision needs less taboo and more open conversation

I don't mean that they have died to themselves and broke free... I mean they have lost their eternal souls and are dead spiritually... What is the difference externally. We see people who temporarily escaped suffering or are just numb to it... Someone like Frank Yang you can see as a borderline demon possessed guy now totally mellowed out... did he gain peace or rather completely lose his soul ? Is he "enlightened" or just totally dead inside... Is enlightenment spiritual suicide? Is it worth gaining peace now in exchange for your eternal soul being lost? I used to want enlightenment and did all the meditation and psychedelics, however, I've since converted to Catholicism and studying theology now it doesn't seem like a good trade off... to gain the world but lose my soul. I'd rather suffer this life for Christ's sake then give up my soul for a few decades of peace here. Imagine that we are tormented by demons and that they just want to kill you, so you give them your soul to stop the torment. Like a last meal on death row, they may just let up because they already have your soul... who even knows, they might remove your soul from the body and possess it for you. Many times meditating towards enlightenment the sensation of dying or the experience of dying have been profound, but now it's a bit disturbing that if it wasn't for last minute resistance and the grace of God, I could have given up my soul... Regardless of your spiritual views, consider this. Is enlightenment worth losing your eternal soul? May the peace of Christ be with you. God bless.

I'd say enlighment is egoic suicide, it's impossible to die spiritually. If your going into religion you need to guard yourself from all these ideas and concepts like demons. Think of it more like energy. While you can't die spiritually, as spirit is itself truth and life, you can obfuscate it and religion does this. Religion = lifelessness. Mysticism + God = Eternal purpose and escatcy.

Ok thanks .I listed suicide as one solution. never said its the option I'm choosing .I'm studying the teachings of Robert Adams and also deeply studying the Islamic religion. Robert Adams is the most awake spiritual teacher I've ever stumbled upon .if you want I can send you his books. And Islam is the only religion that makes sense to me with all due respect to Christian religion and Eastern religions .so I'm working on both these aspects . Do you know that the Buddha basically commited suicide to awaken ? The story says he went to the woods without food or water and only two things could happen : either he awakens or he dies from hunger . About me and you and Reena and Nahm and Soonhi ..I learned to never judge others . Who would've thought Leo was going to ban Nahm? Who would've thought a lighthearted nice married guy like soonhei would kill himself out of the blue ? Things happen that we don't understand in this life .but it must be accepted . Because we don't know everything. We must be humble .

Why are you reviving this again ? At least he had the balls to commit suicide . I don't know if you realized yet but you're gonna die sooner than you imagine. few decades will fly by like a blink of an eye and you will turn into dust and rot . I don't see anything wrong with suicide. In fact I realized something profound as I was contemplating my life situation..I discovered that you either awaken or you become religious or you kill yourself. No fourth option if you want to cut through the nonsense that's called life .

Keep in mind that I'm no psychologist. My knowledge doesn't extend further than a general interest in psychology, philosophy and self-help, so take what I say with a grain of salt. First of all, it seems like your mind is juts very cluttered, with overlaying stressors and internalized feelings of believing you are unworthy of love. Feeling like your inherently unlovable seems to be a recurring theme, between fatherly abandonment, feeling like nobody supports you and generally being lonely. This could explain why you are hung up on your mother scolding you for molesting your younger sibling, even though it would be normal to freak out over that kind of sibling abuse, objectively speaking. It's an old wound. It might be worth going through and explicating what is objectively your fault VS what is theirs for each issue you've had for every major relationship you've had in a kind of list style. A = incident B = what your responsible for in this incident C = what they are responsible for in this incident This way you can make it clear in your mind what is theirs and what is yours in a more objective manner. The truth is that a lot of abuse is not about you anymore than the fact that you where vulnerable at that moment and the abusers very own psychology. You also seem to tend to interpret things in a very negative way. Like with the example of your mom scolding you earlier. It is a fact that she freaked out. It is a subjective interpretation that that means your inherently unworthy of love. I believe it is a symptom of BPD to ruminate and catastrophize. This tendency towards a negative and implicitly self-defeating thinking could be contributing to your feelings of suicidality, which is in my understanding the consequence of prolonged distress and not being able to see a way out. Suicide is a symptom of not being able to imagine a way out of distress. One technique you could try, if you feel so inclined, is softening your language. Softening one's language lets you negotiate with negative thinking. For example, you recently experienced a bunch of set-backs, like losing your job, losing money, drugs not working, etc. The first obvious example is to think of these as set-backs as opposed to failures. Or another example, "the medical system exploited me" to "they don't know what they are doing". Or "life is really hard" to "life is challenging". However you choose to interpret a situation, you'll be right. It's not about gas lighting yourself but dialing how you interpret events. In reality, this events don't actually mean anything. Your mind creates meaning in order to deal with this situations in order to survive, but one's interpretations aren't always constructive and solution-oriented.

Meaning is a projection of the mind. As a tribesman, you have very little individuality and the tribe equips you with all meaning. This is also fundamentally true of modern societies, but you have way more wiggle room as an individual as the scale of society expanded. But there is something to be said about the meaninglessness of modern society. We live in a highly material society which has rejected the religious spirituality of the past, but didn't replace that with anything beyond a vague pursuit of happiness. It is one of the downsides of stage orange and likely an aspect which will exhaust the population of it. People are missing meaning in their life. The other day, I learn of a violent prank called the "Blue Whale" which are a series of challenges which illicit young people to partake in a series of increasingly violent forms of self-harm, culminating in suicide. I can easily imagine young and very lost people being drawn to something like that just because it gives them a purpose. But it is not the case that modernity is exclusively meaningless, you just have too be more proactive about it. There are plenty of examples of people who live meaningful lives today. Arguably humans are adapted for tribal life. So we would naturally "slot in" to that kind of lifestyle and easily find meaning in our lives. But you can't compare modernity to tribal life without acknowledging that being a hunter-gatherer was an extremely hard life with very little room for self-dignity. Modern life is the current peak of humanism in comparison. There is no denying it. It is not possible to find a better time alive to be "useless" and have self-dignity, or the best you can get at least, be it as gay, elderly, sick or as a child. In a tribe, the elderly and children are particularly vulnerable. Child mortality is high and the elderly are often killed or left for dead if they can't up. There's an account of an Acho man who used to sneak up to older aunts and kill them with an axe. And he was proud of it too. Greenland, whose culture is closely rooted to a stone-age culture due to being a nomadic hunter-gatherer society up until colonization only a few hundred years, tend to see children as somewhat disposable, with sexual abuse of children being rampant (about every third child). In part due to the liberal tradition being less rooted in their culture as well as other factors like rampant alcoholism. That is not to say that modern society doesn't have any evils of its own, like pollution (I would be tempted to say war too, but that would actually not be accurate. Relatively, we live in the most peaceful era of human history). There also the factor of depth. The meaning you would find being a tribesman is obvious and immediately enrapturing, but it is also limited by how harsh life is. Most of your thoughts go to "food" and "danger". Compared to modernity, you can create and discover incredible purpose and meaning that can change other people's lives. Just look at any great musician or philosopher. It's like, would you rather have the tastes and hobbies of a dog or a wine connoisseur? The latter is easily pleased, but doesn't enjoy nearly the same depth. Technology is just an extension of natural means through ingenuity and generational knowledge. Humans have always used technology to survive better and to better themselves. Because it improves our survival it contributes significantly to the development of our consciousness overall.