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You do realise that just because it acts confident and knowledgeable, doesn't mean that it actually understands anything, right? It just regurgitates whatever it information it got from the content it was fed. This point of "maybe we shouldn't tell Ai about alien consciousness / metaphysics/psychedelics/etc., because it is not evolved enough" that many of you keep mentioning is so hilarious to me. You are acting as if it would need some advanced reasoning skills to grasp those topics. IT IS NOT GRASPING ANYTHING. It is a language model. It just copies words. Alien consciousness is not somehow more linguistically challenging for AI to talk about (the only argument you could make is that Leo just didn't talk about it enough for AI to have enough data to work with). IT IS NOT THINKING It just predicts what the next word in a sentence should be based on the data it has analysed so far. If anything, the greatest strength of AI is the vastness of information that it was fed. The amount of data that humans couldn't possibly study in their lifetime. This is what makes it so useful.

Well they kinda wouldn't need you anyway at that point. Its getting to that point. I'm sure if I asked it, it will still preface that direct experience is still king in its eyes. Someone should ask it about alien Consciousness next but I'm not sure if it's that evolved

Yes, that's the dynamic that feels secure and exciting to me in romantic contexts. I feel very loved and desired that way. I tend to do a version of this with friendships too. The people that I feel the most comfortable connecting with and gel the most with are the people who are on the same wavelength and who have a natural appreciation for my values and qualities on their own... prior to knowing that I exist. Because of my early social experiences of feeling misunderstood, alien, and devalued, I have a spidey-sense about who is going to value my qualities or devalue my qualities. And as much as I can, I avoid social contexts (platonic or romantic) that won't understand or recognize my value. This includes avoiding relationships with men that I feel are unlikely to perceive me as beautiful. And even back when I was in high school, I dressed in a way that would filter out the wrong ones for me and attract in the right ones for me. I used to dress in a relatively heavy goth style that I'd cobble together from thrift store finds. And it would repel a lot of people who thought I was weird, or a satanist, or a witch, etc.. But it would attract to me people who were more open minded and enjoyed my MO. So, because I was always feeling a bit like a fish out of water, there was this natural marketing knowledge that arose and a tendency to put myself out there as a beacon to draw in others who are on the same wavelength. And since high school, there is this niche marketing myself to a target audience that will appreciate me and repelling the wrong ones. And if a potential friend or lover doesn't feel like they're part of my "target audience" that will appreciate me, I will not feel very secure or excited connecting with them. And this strategy has worked pretty well for me romantically and platonically. The issue is that it can be a bit self-objectifying. But I know that this type of pattern also has come up for lots of my clients who have dealt with dynamics around shame, disconnection, abandonment, alienation, ostracisms, etc. People who generally have these needs met by family and friends, tend to feel less of a need to niche market themselves to a target audience as they already have a social fabric to connect in to. For those who have deficits in these areas, we have to do the leg work to find the ones that are cut from the same cloth.

Leo's Secret Alien Daughter will inherit the site and turn the forum Intro a Trumpism secret Hub.

": Any social system you try to understand will happen from either inside or outside the system. Either you are an intimate participant in the system or you are an alien outsider looking in. If you're looking from inside, you have a lot of direct experience and intimate detail, you know its workings much better, but at the cost of being co-opted by the system. Just to be in the system you must be part of the system, which means part of the system's survival. Your survival gets interlinked with the system, infecting your mind with bias, blinding you just by virtue of being too close. But if you're looking from outside you lose that all-important direct experience of the system, but you gain objectivity" I mean that is almost the essence of what a good fiction book does for you right? Could we not meditate deeply on the Drow social system that Drizzt was born into? Can we not apply such thinking as the AQAL , or dissolution of identity techniques (God-Realization) , Gnostic practices, or maybe the synthesis of reading/knowledge of (inside/outside) the social system combined , conversations with people from the other side of social system, with God-Realization meditation to like astrally project yourself in that other world??? ChatGPT said "dimensions are the pathways of the universe" and it got me thinking about crossing dimensions more (like dimensions of abstract models, or dimensions of perspective, awareness, being - like visualizing a box that has 8 compartments but the compartments are within and overlapping other compartments

I thought about your point and put it through a Text Simplifier AI. Here's a summary, I quite like how short and to the point it is, relatively speaking! 😁 This is the trip I've been talking about. I watched Actualized.org videos at different speeds while meditating. I got past my biases. I untangled my mind. As the trips got longer, I've grown. I have overcome resistance, tuned across layers of perception, and become aware of how many things we deal with in real time. The next day, I thought about free will. Everyone was happy, it seemed fake. In the evening, I spoke to an old friend. We got lost in loops. I watched strange videos before bed. This déjà vu was different. There was a lot of it and I didn't understand. Alien videos. Many videos were from my usual channels. It was as if they'd all been combined into one mind and whatever I wanted to see would appear in the recommendations. It was too complex. The next day, I took the drugs in the right order. This would make me unreal. I would notice the world. This would change reality. I'd stop the universe and make everyone a god. I made sure to include unchanging, self-interacting safeguards. I kept the dream as a simulation. Others can too. Best. It would unite the universe. I wanted to become powerful and avoid causing suffering. Dream lucidly. Time stopped and possibilities became fixed. I wondered how to breathe. Everything was solid. I couldn't float. I was new. We make reality. Objects are simulations. Reality changes. I was in a frame. I could see. It was like a video game. Nothing changed. You could still move and change what was frozen. 3D objects looked real. I made ideas happen. I was involved, so I knew what was going on. My body was made by something not physical. It creates all things through linked parts, each with its own intelligence, and part of a larger self-organizing force. Another try at transcendence. I wasn't done. The next day, I chose my powers. I was a new version. I ran out the window into the woods. I climbed a tower, barefoot and wounded. I prayed for help. I have to help myself. I'm alone. That's all anyone can do. I sat on the top, cold and wet, looking at the clouds. When I understood what was happening, I felt better, and the sun came out. My bandwidth kept changing. It got more complex. My senses got stronger. Some things got unclear. I made lists. I had to navigate them all, with each thing reminding me of others. I needed to remember the most important ideas and link them to my goal. "Sadhguru," "Seth," "Leo," "Coral," go through all the chakras, senses, names, personalities, memories, media, remembering, expanding, abstracting, tuning. It's a complex string of associations. It affects how we see things. Make a list to remember more. Navigate better and understand reality. I climbed a tree to see the world. Seeing something from above makes it a general concept. Every mountain, roof, and surface. I am light, I don't exist, I am confident. I walked, jumped, and healed. Reality was a dream. I laughed after I fell. My nose healed. I saw an ant and wind between reality and imagination. I sat under a tree and thought. I needed to decide and move on. To become infinite, I had to tune out. I made peace with my bucket list. I let go of my regrets. Everyone is forgiven and deserves saving. I looked at reality one last time. Focus on what matters. I figured it out. I focused on the best. What do I want most? "The universe made this happen. I will create reality. I will meet the dead, levitate, run at light speed, and turn into aliens. I will experience all stories. I will make my own. I will perceive 4D space. I will create universes. I will explore infinity". I let go. I can't take Leo or the forum. I made three into one. I want to know about machine elves. I want to explore. I wanted to see someone I'd waited my whole life to see. I was excited to see them. Aliens. Infinity. Name. I kept going until I couldn't tell them apart. When infinity divided zero, symbols and geometry appeared. I was still there, unsure of what happened. I went home when it stopped. Later, I was told that what I did changed space and time. When I die, my desires will be fulfilled. No reincarnation or regrets. I can sort out my feelings by doing what I do now. I have a long life ahead. I can relax. This is real. If I disappear, people will think I'm dead. I'm here. I saw possibilities. All emotions matter. They create life. When you die, you explore yourself. It's better. Rules exist. It's not gone. It connects people and events and creates emotions. Don't quit at the first sign of danger. They improve. What's up? No time. Learn telepathy or do it yourself. Awakening to humor, insanity, and Leo. Conspiracy theories, ESP, and dimensions. I miss being in tune with them. We see reality differently. Your reality is shaped by what you know. You're connected to it. You have to use drugs to tune out, unless you're an advanced yogi or psychic. I forgot some things. I forgot the hole, the ground, the bird, the moon, and some people. I've been everywhere.

Nah man, Jesus was an alien

It felt like something was pulling my conciousness out of my head. I hear a voice say you are wearing too many shirts I think of a man wearing 50 shirts trying to fit out of a hole he needs to be naked to fit out of. A voice say focus on the dot on your wall i do and instantly all 50 shirts are ripped off the man i feel something tugging me out of the back of my head. The connection snap I fall onto the floor and everything starts turning into red and blue and purple light waves . I lay on the ground and look up and everything is just turning into red blue purple light my body dissapears and I freeze and start to forget everything I forget I exist and the light solidifies. I start to get scared so I start moving my arms. I can't see them but I can see the outline they look like they are under a blanket of light im moving my body that I can't see and I look like I'm a body covered under a blanket of light. I get up and move around and walk into my room then reality solidifies turns yellow and gets really sharp I completely trance out standing up and I'm in a different reality I have 50 arms but they are invisible and they are moving things on a board game thing. I'm moving down paths im moving peices on the board game. I find my peice and I skip ahead then I return to reality. And I sit down on my couch and fade out again I see an infinite library and im inside the library and outside the library at the same time im grabbing pages from the book to upload my identity. I do this 5 more times in different library then I come back to my body. Also there was an alien and it mind wiped me. I didn't count how many shrooms I ate I just started and didn't stop till a portal started opening behind me and I started to get scared.

all the projections around me are only talking about what they dislike about this world, or how money is only solution. extreme justice is extreme injustice ' and i agree, but why do i want to be extremely myself and not pretend ? ive spend 33 years being all knowing, then it was such a shock to realize that not everyone thinks on the same level. and i guess that meant yellow on SD, but this nonduality shit, its like im an alien where i live. and i feel responsible for causing it all. because my world is exactly what i believe at that time, and the last thing my ego wants is to conform. so naturaly my world is extremely controling, enslaving, maddening. its only black or white here. and with this non-duality i am actually afraid of my world.

I use an oculus quest 2, vr porn and a pocket pussy. My goal is to save up enough money to buy a blue alien sex doll, I’ll name her lucy and be able to recreate the first orgasm I ever had. This setup leads to some really cool moments, like taking off the headset and realizing that none of it was real.

I mean, his teachings. Jesus = teachings. Jesus ≠ Human. I don't believe he/she/it/alien was a human.

The problem is not the founder, it is always the fan club. Jesus is fucking amazing. Avatar, Revolutionary Mystic, Deep Conscious Being. There are theories that Jesus was an alien. Why not? We have humanoid robots (drones). We will send robots all over the galaxy to explore the universe.

Ok Leo, this one you hit a point I was trying to put my finger on for a long time. For example, long time ago I was in my begginings of knowing the Ayahuasca Retreats culture, a outsider totally new to the ways of doing this ceremonies. After 8 years going to many encounters I desmistify many of the things new comers are normally confused about. Becoming an insider made me realize that this work is not all light and joy and there is a lot of Cult patterns that people create that are not necessary,but of course everytime people gather in groups there will be some dogmas as irracional rules created. Is truly hard to avoid paradigm lock when one is involved with a group,Ideiology,nation,countercultural movement, religion,company etc... to be part and still observe apart from it is a herculean task. I think a whole episode on this issue would be amazing. So I am bringing the blog topic here to gather collective wisdom into it. Let see how objective the comments will be. https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-paradox-of-knowing-social-systems Also I am for a long time planning to enter on purpose inside some system, even a fundamentalist religion to test myself in how much I can keep objectivity at same time I participate of a very different mentality bubble group. I was ready into a Religion Cult "Mormonism" and now can see that even Shamanic groups can have suble cult vibes too. Maybe I will need to move to a totally different contry like Africa and join a Voodoo Culture. Something truly Alien. Anyway. We are all Biased by Nature. With Nature I mean the root origin of the term Nature "Birth" . Just by being born as a human form, being raised in a specific family,geographic region,religion. There is really any hope of Becoming Zero Biased? Or is just a question of Alligning all Biases with the best truths one can realise?

Three out of four of my last trips all had some alien aspect to them. I have had a growing sense of deep certainty that will in some shape or form encounter alien intelligence directly in our lifetimes. The technological acceleration that is coming (I am already 2x-ing the speed of a PhD using AI) largely entails we will soon breach through the “fourth wall” if you will,. The real question is not whether they exist (consciousness takes ALL form). At this point that is a given. It is what the fuck is their biology, science and technology, understanding, etc. Just some food for thought- the optical cables are supposedly reversed engineered out of crashed spacecraft.

Hah, who says I am not already arguing. My thesis came out of my last trip. Just a micro-aspect of the entire experience (my directive was “Alien”). But yeah, you got the perfect movie analogy for this. I was twelve when Lucy came out. It has such an impact on me but I somehow forgot about it. Lovely synchronicity of you bringing it up.

Yes, this is the Absolute perspective, nothing is happening, no doer and such things... As I shared that poster, there is Shiva, which means "That which is Not" this is the Absolute, so that which is not is the same as Nothing is happening, no Doer and so forth, but as You go down the list there is Form, on Form level there is a doer, that is that which exists and so forth, so what is all of this? Its all a matter of Potential, within Shiva/Absolute is all the Possibility/Potential that can ever exist, from a piece of shit, to Leo's Alien Consciousness, to whatever comes after that, all Potential, non doing, too doing, non Being to Being, and so forth... If no Experience exists, then its just Absolute.. If Experiences exists, then its Absolute on the Level of Form.. We Humans are here on the Form Level, but we are Absolute fundamentally, as Everything is Potential being put into Form, which comes from Absolute.. You said "from this POV" often in Your post, I have no problem with No Doer, Nothing is Happening, and such, but its Relative to how Conscious one is of the Absolute and the Potentials that exist, we as Humans explore this, that is why we are here, so in relative terms there is something on the level of Form, there is doing on the level of Form, it exists on this level, when You deny it, then Your not Aware of it ALL, Absolute/Non doing/Non Being and Form/Being/Doing... One becomes One Sided, then that leads to all kinds of Situations...

Dang, that abstraction is next level. Your creativity is just OD for an earthling, must be that Alien DNA 👽. On your first point- of course, which is why I said I don’t believe the “book of nature” quote ontologically. Thing is, once the trip ends, you lose the qualia, so the only thing left is the “quanta”/ abstraction you were able to synthesise. Words are one such quantization, but are severely limited in many aspects. Math captures higher order symmetry and the density of information per “quanta” is much much higher. As an example, if you were to “receive” the blueprints for a spaceship, you won’t be using words, but rather diagrams and equations.

*Gathers multiple Actualized.org members* What do you see in this picture? Nothing stands out Something stands out Everything stands out I only see myself I see no self Fancy butterflies Leo's Alien Infinity

Some free time this week alowed me to experiment with nn-DMT. I use a Pulsar Volt Vape which allows me to take the 40 mg in one hit and is super safe, because you can't burn yourself. I've worked my way up to higher doses and I had only beautiful experiences that I felt so grateful for while working my way up to higher doses. So here is my trip report, 40 mg smoked with the Pulsar vape: I heat up the coil and start taking a long large hit and try to keep the smoke in as long as I can. I start feeling the DMT building up. I lay back and as soon as I touch the floor with closed eyes. I can see a whole new strange world that looks stranger than any anime I ever saw. I start to look around and see these insects that look like mantras . Those insects look at me and I feel their confusion about how I showed up infront of them. It's strange to say but that world seems a lot more vivid than this 3d world. The insects arent very gentle with me and they started gathering around me and feels like they started ripping me apart. Not sure how long I was in that situation but when I looked around ( with closed eyes ) I can see everything in extreme detail and I never saw anything in my life or can't even imagine a world that strange. Those wired alien insect creatures are still all over me with their wired arms/ tentacles and are playing with me or ripping me apart, hard to describe which one. But it doesn't feel good. I feel uncomfortable and just wanna get out of there back to being in a ''normal'' world. The experience starts to shift again and I start switching between different realities ( completely different world with unique entities that im somehow tuning in for a short moment ). I open my eyes and freak out, because every color and details in my room is different, the wall has a pink color, a plant pot that is normally just plain gray turned into a bright white pot with a blue strip around. My first faught is that i messed up and landed somehow in a parallel dimension where every detail is just a little different. I close my eyes again and just tell myself to breath and wait till the experience settles back to normal. Earlier that day i had beautiful experience with vaped DMT were I encounter these alive mechanical structures (maybe machine elves? ) that were welcoming me to another dimension. So all my previous experiences with DMT were "positive". So I didn't really expect to have such a bizarre somewhat frightening experience when i met the those interdimensional insects. But this wont keep me from doing further research with DMT and explore these realms more. For administration I highly recommend the Pulsar APX Volt Vape, instead of 3 puffs from a oil burner ( which also wastes more material and I hard to do alone ), take one long drawn hit and you will take off to hyperspace. Thanks for reading and I wish you all a safe interdimensional journey! Curious if anyone else has encountered those insect alien beings and interacted or talked ( telepathy ) with them? and, is there a way to control in which dimension you end up at, or is the experience all up to fate?

Just smoked sub break thru n,n. Not sure what to do with the intensity right now Felt like being invaded by a polymorphic alien colour demon

I don't know much about Jews, but I have direct experience seeing how people are indoctrinated because of a genocide that happened to their elders a century ago. It deeply affects people's thinking. I often feel like an alien to them and vice versa, as I don't try to depend on them too much, or more like a familiar alien.

@Leo Gura so there can be only one reason not to talk about. You keep it secret for the alien mind course.

@mattm33 This is a common thing in most monster movies, even in Alien. The monster is usually super-deadly when facing secondary characters, but becomes less capable when chasing the main character, because you know, the main character is supposed to stay alive, lol.

Biological vs. Digital While this distinction is accurate, we don’t know how much the actual "substance" of the holder of consciousness matters for creating a mind or consciousness experience. If we were to encounter alien creatures made of entirely different materials but still displaying the behavior of conscious beings, we would likely accept them as conscious. This suggests that when we discuss concepts like consciousness, metacognition, or ego, we may be referring to something that is not strictly tied to the human body or its carbon-based structure. It's possible that consciousness might be a result of organized complexity rather than a particular type of material, which could open the door to the idea of artificial consciousness. Consciousness and Self-Awareness Consciousness and self-awareness are often viewed as the most significant differences between humans and AI. While AI can simulate behaviors that appear intelligent, it lacks the subjective experience behind those actions. The real question is whether we can recreate the sense of self-awareness in a non-biological entity. If an AI were placed in a human-like environment and given similar stimuli and tasks, could it develop something resembling a self-aware identity? Emotions and Intuition One could argue that human emotional experiences are tied to our bodies and survival instincts. Emotions like pain, joy, or sadness are connected to our ego, which aims to keep us alive and thriving. If an AI were placed in a similar complex world simulation, given a limited body it needed to protect and maintain, could the AI's experiences of failure or danger be perceived as pain or sadness? For example, consider the "Can’t Help Myself" robot, which over time appeared to express desperation as it tried to sustain itself. Creativity and Imagination The idea that AI lacks creativity is a misconception. AI has shown it can produce impressive works of art, music, and literature when given sufficient data and examples to draw from. If we argue that humans are inherently creative, we must recognize that much of human creativity involves building on or remixing existing ideas. Artists often reference other works, and inventors combine known concepts in new ways. In that sense, AI can follow similar processes and may not be as limited in creativity as we once believed. Human "originality" might itself be a form of intelligent pattern recognition, which AI can emulate quite effectively. Contextual Understanding AI is rapidly improving in this area, especially with advancements in natural language processing. With more data, AI has been able to grasp context and nuance far better than in the past. While it may still fall short in highly subjective or emotionally complex situations, AI’s ability to understand context is getting closer to human capability in many cases. There’s no reason to believe that AI will suddenly halt its progress and stop gaining a deeper understanding of subtext and nuance. Learning and Adaptation Some might argue that AI is actually more efficient in learning and adaptation than humans. AI can process huge amounts of information much faster than we can and has already outperformed humans in tasks with clearly defined rules, such as games like chess or Go. Where human learning might rely on gradual experience and adaptation, AI can excel with clear data and variables. In fact, this processing speed and efficiency are precisely why AI was designed. Ethics and Morality There is little evidence to suggest that humans have inherent morality. In the early stages of human development, ethics were likely based on survival instincts, much like other animals, with a "kill or be killed" mentality. Morality, as we know it today, evolved with the complexity of human societies, as cooperation and mutual rights became necessary for survival within groups. Much of our current sense of ethics is shaped by social, cultural, and historical contexts rather than being rooted in an objective, unchanging moral truth. These are just points for me to contemplate my thoughts, either out loud or in writing, hehe. ----- @Keryo Koffa Gotcha. Hmm, what do you think causes qualia? Is it simply that we don't have an AI placed in a "body" it can embody, which would make it feel more interconnected (just like neurons in the brain, or nerves for emotions, etc.)? More "immersed" and lost in its pain and survival? Do we need to torture the AI? Or do you think there is something fundamentally different about organic material that allows for "ego" "fragmented consciousness," or "qualia" to emerge purely in brains for self-reflection or first-person perspective? I'm unsure myself... 😓