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Yimpa replied to Mixcoatl's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Indeed, there is absolutely no way you could live a normal, everyday life, from such high degrees of consciousness. It’s non-human. I’ve been there. There is even a higher degree of consciousness than ego death. For context, I’ve had non-dual experiences on psychedelics where I could still speak, and that was profound as fuck. But this non-human alien state, we are talking like 1000x higher degree of consciousness more radical than even that. And it wasn’t a psychedelic that took me to that state. It was like I acccidentally won the jackpot and discovered something super duper cray cray for a brief moment. I’ve talked about this in other threads in the past, but I am so obsessed with experiencing that again, but at the same time I still want to live my human life. It’s like I discovered a completely new dimension of consciousness, but no scientist or academic would take me serious. Again, only an Alien Mind could understand. I will experience it again when I stop caring about being human. But not yet. -
So I came back. I left end of July. I am done with China for a while lol.... it just gets overwhelming and you feel like you're on an alien planet after a while. I had so much fun. Hope to go to Tibet next year.
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PenguinPablo replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Leo Gura Precisely. I think his wisdom and metaphysical tech (following your highest excitement formula which is his core teaching) is very interesting and worth reflection. Sometimes I cringe when he tells some new age 40something chick that she died in a parallel dimension and that she split and just fills in the gaps conveniently about her being an alien like some 10 year old writing science fiction but stated as fact And she just accepts it on the spot lol 😂 -
Just forget everything about hydrogen, helium, etc., and try to imagine telling a pre-modern person what a star really is. That if you were to be able to fly and travel towards that little dot in the sky, that if you were to come close to it, it would vaporise you. How alien and God-like a star is, that it's so far removed from our physical existence as meat sacks, that if you were to actually travel to it, you would end your existence as a human being. The absolute sheer power and divine posture, world-shattering capability, of a star. And how mindblowing that is, that this is the reality as far as we can glean it from our current understanding of the universe.
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Yimpa replied to Vynce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am coming in contact with beings who are, and have, had their own profound mystical experiences. We speak in different tongues, but we are able to translate each other in real time. No AI required. We are in Love, together. We are both Love. Love can absolutely be more than One. Two Loves for the price of one! (this statement will obviously sound woo-woo, but of course it is from a different paradigm). But it’s not just One, or Two, or Three. It’s Infinite! Infinity is a shapeshifter. God is not bound to a particular form or shape. Coming into beings who are not limited to their physical human form is key to all of this. Radical open-mindedness is no joke. God is imagining all forms. Awakening is the direct contact with God. Love is direct understanding of how God is constructing the entire field of awareness right meow! It’s Alien like communication. I am still processing and downloading the new OS into my subconsciousness. See and expect more changes in the weeks and months to come. Tank you for your patience. But more importantly, tank u for waiting your beautiful time with me as well Meep meep, indeed. -
I recently had an awakening on the scope of infinity. This is sort of how it played out in my mind. Pretend you are a bird flying about looking down. You see all the humans in their caves (homes). Each human has a story, a different place they were born, different environments, different situations, different conformities, different minds, different lives, going different places, experiencing their own local viewpoint, totally completely individual like never before. Each human is so unique in their own way. Even a human that conforms to a group of some kind is still very uniquely them in their own individual ways. Now take that same concept for humans, and now apply it to every single species on the planet. Every cat, every dog, every animal, every insect. They too, have their own upbringings, experiences. Like a house cat versus a street cat for example. All those different types of lives. Every animal ever. Every human ever. Completely local and unique. Now take that same concept and apply it to inanimate objects. Each comes from a different place, ends up in a different place. Each house is unique. Apartment 12 is not apartment 13. Each country, every civilization is unique. Each block on the pyramids is not the other block. One may have crack formations that none of the others do. Every tree. Every leaf. Every scratch on a plank of wood. Every rock. Every note played on a guitar. Never the same. You get the point. Totally unique viewpoint/creation. Now we go another layer further. Lets say someone takes a drug. Their mind takes them somewhere that no one else has experienced in the same way. Perhaps not even a drug but just a nightly dream in some other dimension. Completely unique perspective and experience. Now apply the same layering to every star, every planet, every alien, every light being, every speck of dust, every creature in some dimension somewhere. Every thought of a flying purple elephant. And all the experiences that each of these forms of consciousness are experiencing. Just new, new, new, new, new, uniqueness. Creations, perspectives, all being imagined out of the woodwork by source. Now apply to every single one of these figments of the past, present, and future. The perspective of "timelines" and viewpoints of experience in those timelines. All of it. Even though time itself is imaginary, think of the things in each of those time periods and the same infinity spirals. Now apply it to all the things a human being cannot conceive of. Infinity creates infinite threads on an infinite tapestry, each thread being a completely new perspective. And this goes on for infinity and came from infinity. It's truly mind bending. I want to point out while all of this might sound obvious, the big part of this insight was in feeling it and truly being in touch with that everlasting spout of creation, imagining all of these things into perspective forever. And on top of that (cherry on top), "perspective" itself being your local reality viewpoint. Every "thing" experiences a different reality. Contemplate that. Then of course, it all collapses back into one. Infinite parts and oneness. Together as an infinite paradox. Once you realize all of this and truly "know" it, you see how most humans are completely and utterly insane. Slaves to their own perspective hallucinations.
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Ima Freeman replied to BlessedLion's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Ulax Because it is too damn complex. It might take 60 years till a accurate explanation can be drawn, like they try to do now with UAPs and human-alien contact. Anyways it is not that important. Stronger democratization and government transparency is. -
He was always sorta unhinged, and i don't really enjoy criticising other peoples work, but i keep up with him to see what he's up to. Some of his latest thumbnails: "The 13 heavens are real" "Jesus was half alien" "The Fake God Running Reality" Seems like he's really gone of the deep end of the psychedelic alien world. It should be a warning of epistemic irresponsibility, fantastical thinking, and misusing psychedelics. He is very stage purple and stage blue in a lot of his models and ideas. He used to be sorta grounded but now it's just totally wacky and has nothing to do with consciousness work.
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We'll all pitch in to buy the rights from his family to make an AI version of him to continue his legacy! We've just gotta strategically target whoever is in his Will and nullify any naysayers before they possibly act as ruminating dissuader's! Think of the possibilities that exist after we have compressed his formative years into AI solidarity. For one, we'll be able to get him to enter into debates with other non-alien humans, or human-alien hybrid's alike, that he otherwise never would have had. For this to be a reasonable possibility however, we would need to first create a compelling AI of Leo after he passes, convince his loved one's that he hasn't actually passed away, but that he either never wants to see them again or that he can only now see them through video chat and will nevertheless still continue making videos. If there's an open casket for the funeral, there's an easy way around that as well. We just need to convince his family that he was involved in undercover government operations during the first Leo-AI <-> family appearance and the only way to convince assailants to no longer pursue him was to fake his own death; aka its a Leo clone in the casket. This is all plausible hypotheses. In the spiritual communities, as there will of course be some doubt initially, but his re-appearance could be cinematic leverage! Think... Next day resurrection, same as how it unfolded with Jesus which only proved the immortality, symbolic or not, of his spiritual grace. This would become its own money wheel, heh, we'd be able to milk the marketing from this for personal riches for decades! On a more personal note, this is of course just for humour, heh, Leo knows we'd all miss him.
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Nemra replied to Nemra's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have had an experience of something taking over my mind. That was again when I was about to wake up from my sleep. I heard alien clicking sounds and was melting through reality. It was like being possessed. 🙂 -
Yeah, I vaguely recall that realization. It was a complete mindfuck. It’s like an alien mind took over and “I” became infinitely intelligent of what everything and nothing was. All material reality completely annihilated. It’s completely out of the realm of human sanity and intelligence. No human can ever grasp this. Psychedelics didn’t cause this realization. I’m completely dumbstruck with how I became conscious of that realm.
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Boy, girl and in-between Cut from a laser beam We seek a new vibration (Alien nation) Forget our parents' name Synthesized to be the same Nothing will never change (Alien nation) Lonely but never alone Tethered to a fake friend phone Record this conversation (It's a simulation) Black Friday cyberattack Freeway fracking, sky is cracked Sing with the congregation (Alien nation) Fly down the inner state Self-care, self-hate One-sided conversation (This is information) We're goin' off the grid We're blowing off the lid We're way beyond salvation In the- (alien nation) Between the God of love (Alien nation) And the God of lust (Alien nation) In the crops they burn (Alien nation) A circle of trust (Alien nation) The flight's delayed (Alien nation) For the prophet's spoken (Alien nation) Put all your hopes and all your dreams in the machine And the machine is broken The machine is broken The machine is broken The machine is broken I return to all my enemies all the pain they would like to or could have 'cause of me I return this evil to them with love, in the name of the alien nation Alien nation, alien nation, alien nation Alien nation, alien nation, alien nation Alien nation, alien nation, alien nation Alien nation, alien nation
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4-HO-MET/Metocin Trip Report - September 3 2026 This was my first time trying this substance. For those who don't know, it's a mushroom analogue, like a cross between 2C-B and mushrooms. It's supposed to be more gentle than mushrooms, but not quite as gentle as 2C-B. This substance is fucking incredible. 2C-B is my favourite psychedelic. I LOVE the neon, digital, alien feeling of it, and the visuals on 2C-B are so beautiful. This substance is quite similar. It feels clean, smooth, digital, but in a different way than 2C-B. It has the same head buzz that mushrooms give you. The smoothness of it kind of reminds me of penis envy mushrooms, but it is more digital feeling, like 2C-B. You know the feeling of mint toothpaste in your mouth, how refreshing and cool it is? This substance made my whole body feel like that. It was a really interesting feeling. Even though I didn't get much experience with AL-LAD by itself the day before, just seeing how its visuals morphed with 2C-B, the visuals are more strange, chaotic and weird than beautiful (at least from that one experience). With 4-HO-MET, the mint toothpaste coolness sort of carries over psychologically and in the visuals. The visuals feel clean, smooth, digital and beautiful, like 2C-B but in a different way. It's sort of like an apple laptop - clean, smooth, elegant, digital. This substance is known to make music sound really good, and oh my god it definitely does. Early in the trip I became really cold, and I couldn't warm myself up, so I took a warm shower and then a bath, with the lights off, and I played this song the whole time. This song is fucking amazing, it sounded SO good on this substance. So the substance itself is beautiful, and I love it, but the trip itself was really fucking painful. Not because of the substance, but just because of what divine intelligence put me through to progress me towards fana. At the start of the trip, some of the physical sensations felt good, and it was quite relaxing with the music and when I took a shower, but at the same time I felt really antsy and tense, like I couldn't let go and enjoy it and I was just uncomfortable. I was also just really cold for a lot of the time. Even when I took a hot shower, it helped, but I was still kind of cold in some way, and heating myself more just made me nauseous. Then I went back to my room and laid in bed. By the way, I do all of my trips at night. I took this substance at about 11pm on September 3rd, I added more to my dose a couple times, and it wasn't over until about 8am. When I laid in bed, it felt good and helped with the tension and antsy-ness I was feeling, but then I started to become really nausious. Heavy nausea is something I've experienced quite a lot in my trips over the past few months. I heard that a lot of fear is stored in the stomach, so heavy nausea on these trips is a form of releasing fear and helping me get deeper into surrender. So I started to become nauseous, and it got really fucking bad. It went on for hours, and at times it got SO fucking painful. I only vomited once, but most of the time I was just sitting in this really painful nausea that wouldn't go away. There was also a lot of emotional pain. I started thinking about something in my life that hurts me a lot, that I am constantly dealing with/thinking about, and it hurt like a motherfucker here. It was so bad, I had to really try to not think about it, but I kept coming back to it. It was so bad at times that it made me want to cry. There was also just general emotional pain. I don't really know how to describe it, I guess some kind of strong fear and discomfort, I had to really try to breathe and be patient. It takes a lot of willpower to not resist it and start freaking out. I can do it for a bit, but the longer it goes on for, the harder it gets to not resist it. At some point I remember I started thinking about society and the world, about how humans started out as cavemen, hunters and gatherers, and over time they built this entire society, with different cultures, money, businesses, schools, people have jobs to teach and educate the youth, people grow old, they have services dedicated to helping all different types of people (kids, old people, etc). Everything is so interconnected and developed, and there are so many different kinds of people, and facets of human life. All of it was so interesting to think about. Again, it took on this clean, technical type of feeling and that's what made it feel so interesting. There was one point around 3am where I started to fall asleep, maybe for about 30 minutes, and when I woke up, I had NO IDEA who I was. Insane ego dissolution that I've never experienced before. On top of that, reality, like what I was seeing, feeling, hearing, etc., it did not feel real at all. It was like it didn't exist, and I was just experiencing nothingness and absolute Truth. It was so bizarre. After that I was still nauseous, still rolling around in my bed in a lot of pain, in all the ways I described above. I think I fell asleep around 5 or 6am, and then I woke up around 8am, and thank God the trip was pretty much done at that point. There was also a point a few hours before this where I started listening to this song, and it was incredibly beautiful as well. It made me feel like I was a baby being held, it was so soothing. I started laughing a lot at times on this trip like I did in my trip the day before. It was mostly at the thought of certain youtube videos and memes that I like, but at one point I started gently caressing my teeth with my tongue, and it felt really good, and then I had the thought "what if I asked someone: do you have teeth? do you have a tongue?" it's really weird in retrospect, but it made me laugh a lot when I thought about that. There's this term I came up with in high school with my friend. About jerking off, meat beating - meatamus beatamus. I thought about that and it made me laugh so hard lol. I wanted to sit up and watch some of the youtube videos that make me laugh, but I was so fucking nauseous that I just couldn't do it. So yeah, most of that trip was really fucking painful, but the substance itself is so beautiful. It really does feel like a cross between mushrooms and 2C-B. Less aggressive than mushrooms, more digital feeling like 2C-B. I love it. It's definitely up there with 2C-B as one of my favourites. That trip was so deep, the ego dissolution I felt later in the trip was so strong, there is no way that fana is far away after a trip like that. Even though it was really painful and I'm glad it's done, that trip was incredible.
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AL-LAD and 2C-B Trip Report - September 2 2026 Last night I did 1cP-AL-LAD and 2C-B. It was my first time doing AL-LAD. I took the 2C-B about an hour after taking it so I didn't get too much time with the AL-LAD by itself, but it was still cool to see how the visuals added to the 2C-B. It was my first time experiencing visual tracers. At one point the visuals got very intense and chaotic, so many lines and colors moving all over the place, flashing, it was kind of overstimulating. At one point I remember seeing green witch hands with blue and then red nails. But most of the time it was just waving lines and colors. There was another ego-dissolving theme that came up. This time it became increasingly difficult to function in my own mind. I nit-pick at everything, things I say, things I judge about myself and others, things I worry about, it’s just constant and it’s extremely difficult and exhausting functioning in my own mind. My mind is always like this but it became especially bad on that trip. Not painful but just exhausting. It got so tiring that it was like my mind began to collapse on itself, like I couldn’t handle being this way and I started to sink. Definitely getting close to some kind of surrender. Later into the trip I had those beautiful visuals come up that I've had in other 2C-B trips. It seems to come up only after any of these ego-dissolving patterns occurs. I think these visuals are extremely beautiful. They feel so clean, pure, expensive and intelligent compared to the other often wacky, chaotic psychedelic visuals. I just see this faint cluster of overlapping letters and numbers all across my wall, with this absolutely beautiful iridescent glow running through them. the letters look like they are made of glass. I think that's part of what makes them look so clean and pure. I find the more I do 2C-B, the more I love it. There is something I love so much about the digital, neon, alien feeling of 2C-B. DMT is really good for this as well, but 2C-B is my favourite. It's interesting because it's not just that I really like it - something about it feels incredibly soothing to me. It feels like home, like where I belong. It feels like me. The more I do it, the deeper this sense becomes. Recently I did mushrooms, which I don't do very often, and it felt very earthy and natural feeling which isn't my preference. Then I took 2C-B a couple hours later, I was hit with the 2C-B visuals, the auditory hallucinations, the overall 2C-B digital alien vibe, and the contrast of it from the mushrooms made me fall absolutely in love with it. It is just so absolutely beautiful, soothing and comforting. Again, it just feels like me, like where I belong. Some things I started thinking about that I found funny on this trip: - People sleeping. They just lay there doing nothing. Just out of commission. I thought it was really funny. - The concept of someone sober, uninfluenced by psychedelics, asking someone if they think sleeping is funny. - Watermelon and other fruit. If you totally forget about the fact that they are food, they are so weird. A watermelon is just some weird green object, it's just sitting there. Like what the fuck is that? It looks so stupid
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Lol, you’re funny though. Is your main need just being able to ramble about anything? I’m saying this respectfully, but it’s genuinely funny to read your posts because they’re so intricate. No, I mean, I do have needs, but I was suicidal for a while. I expected the world to have more to offer, and the cause was basically the same feeling as finishing a video game and being stuck in the endgame with no more content left to really explore. My desire for death led me toward truth ( but it's the reverse as people suffering from feeling stuck, I had nothing to be stuck about ), but it wasn’t what I expected. It does fit your explanation of the character becoming self-aware in some way, though. I feel like I’m hope-maxxing now, with the added possibility of AI happening, eventually leading to UBI and some kind of large-scale human liberation, where we can all just chill, live happily in communities, and do some Final Fantasy Zanarkand-type living. Honestly, the feeling of a “meaning crisis” is still there, but not in the same oppressive way. I’m kind of playing around with it now. I’ve become a very optimistic doom-pilled person. I’m not fatalistic. I still like striving to be the cleverest person in the room, and in some sense I feel like I’ve won. I can joke about genocide, death, Hitler, or whatever else because I’m extremely detached. I can do that with basically anything, even argue against everything I supposedly stand for, whether that’s my culture, my race, or whatever other bullshit story. I do fancy myself as a good person, but I’m detached from human affairs to the point where, honestly, I don’t really care about the state of the world or whether my words ultimately affect people positively or negatively. There’s much more I could say. Sometimes I feel like I’m the most “intelligent” person on Earth, and I don’t even mean that as a good thing. I don’t mean intelligence in the sense of some fancy ability to understand advanced mathematics. I mean that, if intelligence can involve being able to detach yourself from everything, from language, perspective, identity, and even life itself, then that’s something I feel I can do better than almost anyone. Even the hippie or the Buddhist is usually still attached to something. Even the guy who dies through extreme meditation can still be attached to escaping worldly experience or transcending desire. I’m detached in a different sense. I simply let desires and needs happen within this point of view without treating them as fundamentally important. And even on the ordinary human plane, those desires are relatively weak. Sometimes I still get a sudden peak of delusion around achieving some goal, or the reverse: a sudden conviction that everything is meaningless. I removed my post because it felt too personal. I don’t really like oversharing my identity online unless it’s within my private spaces. Yeah, you’re right about a lot of what you pointed out. Still, I don’t really judge normies for being normies. My judgment is mostly just fancy gaming. I’m special, and you’re special too. Just look at your post. You’re posting on this wretched edge of the internet. You really think you’re a normal person now? Girl, you’re an absolute weirdo, sorry. No amount of self-proclamation that you’re normal is going to save you either way. You can go back to being an alien, because you are one! I mean, alright, nowadays everyone is kind of crazy, so the bar has shifted dramatically in terms of what normieness even entails. We might all just be mildly convinced schizophrenics who occasionally need a puff of some nice self-narrative to keep the whole thing coherent. And in the end, what even is “normal” or “weird”? It’s just another layer of fanciness. But yeah, of course, if being "a normie" feels nice, just be one. Whatever makes you happy. I’m still convinced that almost everyone on this forum is some kind of nutcase, basically a functional asylum with creature who somehow learned to operate in society.
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So, two things can be true here. One is that your perspective may be genuinely different and un-relatable to many people. That's what I experienced growing up as a kid, and it was really hard for me to fit in before I developed some advanced level social skills that simply weren't attainable for me as a child. And chronically not fitting in can create this "I'm different in a bad way" shame dynamic early on. The other perspective is that, when people have these issues with fitting in early on.... they can begin coping with that issue by building the identity of the person who's "different in a good way" and trying to differentiate themselves more and more and more from ordinariness and averageness. And they can do that by being different in a hierarchical way (being better)... or being different simply in a different way. And I did both... and you seem to do both. And for me, this differentiation coping strategy helped in certain ways because I was able to develop an identity and MO for myself that was unique from others where I could challenge societal rules that I didn't agree with, find my particular values, and develop myself in ways that few others do. But this differentiation tendency had A LOT of collateral damage that I wasn't aware of until about 5 years ago... when I realized what my aversion to ordinariness and sameness was doing to me. The collateral damage was that it pushes away all parts of me that are common, ordinary, and average and repressed them in order to maintain the "Different from all others" identity that I used to cope with isolation and alienation. But this strategy also exacerbates the same kind of isolation and alienation from the original trauma... as the differentiation tendency causes a person to strive to become as superiorly alien as possible. And it carves us out as islands. And when I was a kid, this came through as me imagining myself as non-human mythical beings... and having all my classmates realize that I was actually an alien, vampire, or mermaid. And later on, it came as spiritual identities and intellectual identities to prove myself better and different than others. And this created a disconnect between myself and my humanity... with strong judgments towards the average human being. So, once I realized this, it's been very important for me to shed any identities or MOs that are geared towards differentiating myself from the rest of humanity. And this is why it's important for me to anchor myself in the "I am an average human being" perspective... and to cease attempting to transcend my basic bitch humanity to become some Ubermensch. This wisdom is in knowing that being a basic bitch is the best medicine for "different in a good way" people. And I suspect that your reaction to my acknowledgement of my ordinary human needs was part of that resistance to commonality and ordinariness... and maintaining the identity of "the different one." So, I would challenge you to question why you're trying to transcend your needs in the first place. Is it because you're trying to carve out an identity of being "different from the masses"? Or is it for some other reason?
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Relative the dichotomy you mentioned of "subjective access' versus "empirical generalizability"... It's not that I'm saying that empirical generalizability itself is an issue. I'm just arguing for a more holistic and helpful empirical generalizability than what men currently have access to... which requires receptivity to how women actually experience attractions. Ultimately, empirical generalizability is the perspective that men have to work within, with regard to the female perspective on dating and attraction. And that isn't a problem in and of itself. The issue is that, a lot about the reality of the subjective female experience is getting lost in translation relative to the current popular models of empirical generalizability... as it over-indexes on short-term results. But it misses the fact that these paradigms in themselves create a ceiling that will make it MUCH more difficult in the long-run for these men. So, men operating through empirical generalizability is par for the course. And the current models of empirical generalizability often have tactics that are effective towards very specific measurable ends... but might backfire in the long term in other ways that are profoundly detrimental to the man in ways that he's not aware of, simply because of his lack of experience with the subjective experience with womanhood and really understanding what it's like to be a woman who's very attracted to a man. Also, the current models of empirical generalizability tend to get related to as a panacea understanding of women. That causes men who follow them and find comfort in them to hyper-attach to them... to the exclusion of the perspective of "How do women actually experience this subjectively?" And this is when those models act more like a security blanket that blocks out deeper truths that are more conducive to understand and have genuine connection with women over the long run. Honestly, if a man is so attached to these paradigms, he's not going to be able to really see and understand the woman he's with as a whole person because his cup is already too full with he knowledge of the "empirical generalizability" model that's he's using to maximize short-term success and minimize risk. Also, understanding the real subjective experiences of female attraction from a variety of women (and being genuinely receptive to these perspective) will also minimize feelings of alienation and shame, which is a major part of what causes connection with women to be scary and intimidating, in the first place. Right now, the practical paradigms end up ramping up the pressure and fear even more, because female attraction has been framed in a way within these empirical generalizability models in a way that's hyper-objective and operationalizable (as that's what gives the greatest level of leverage)... but it ultimately frames women's sexuality as something that feels alien and cold to them. So, it's really about developing a more holistic model of female sexuality that's based in the actual truth of the matter, even if that truth reveals something less certain or practically leveragable. And that requires a man to realize, "My paradigm on female sexuality was built for my comfort to minimize my vulnerabilities and to maximize my leverage in the situation. And while there are some effective practical parts of this paradigm that give me short-term measurable results, that doesn't mean that the paradigm is accurate or that the paradigm gives me a panacea understanding of women." So, it's more about getting them to recognize the limitations of these practical paradigms in general... and to say, "These practical paradigms will likely backfire on you in the long-run, if you don't understand how high-discernment women are actually experiencing these practical tactics." So, I would say... you can't develop true expertise about attracting women until you have a more holistic understanding of where your practical paradigms begin and end.
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100% If I understand you correctly - You possibly learned through direct, relentless feedback from reality/real world experience. Trial and error, and probably a good mix of variation within that experience (and contradictory feedback), meaning you incurred less bias. But also, to learn what you did most likely also meant you DIDN'T prematurely close in on a frame and become locked. I don't know how you experience Ni, but for me it is really tacit. I have no fucken idea how I come to the conclusions or knowings I have - and I continually have to reverse engineer from the conclusion explicitly to understand (and I've been burned by my tacit conclusions often enough now I make a really concerted effort to never simply roll with my 'Knowings"). So often I am taken aback by conversations based on game, PUA, frame etc I used to not understand why someone would need this sort of frame to guide them, because I so naturally built one up in what appears to be an unconscious way. It becomes a map vs territory issue. Learning the frame then applying (and learning its limitations in the process) vs learning and building a frame from direct experience. Both definitely require challenges, fear, anxiety and courage. Both have different types of pitfalls. Explicit frames being learned and applied, to me, seem so alien... but I see the use. And I have come to use these methods as an alternative to my straight Ni. I am almost trying to break my Ni at this time in my life, if that makes sense. to "get out' of it, because it is so much of my processing I cannot make it out clearly. I cannot see my eyes.
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@Leo Gura Understanding relativity is one of the best things in life. It gives you such a broad understanding of life. Exploring different perspectives changes you and your perception fundamentally changes. It's like tasting more of life. I'm still in many aspects not fully yellow, in some aspects i'm turquoise, in others not fully yellow. Like i still struggle to understand really less developed people, like people in islamic culture where rape isn't a concept, salvery and opression of women is normalized, pedophilia is okay, etc... Feels too strange and alien.
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Hating looking “Gay” Im Bi and even I don’t want to look gay —Although I suppose in this context is more so about looking weak and submissive rather than saying you’re into guys. Also Bi =x= being into guys. It simply means that whoever you find attractive, you will fuck. Kinda like how they did it in Greece/Rome (—minus the slut shaming for the submissive partner) I imagine this is how aliens operate: If sexual organs, then they are bi or are under a similar doctrine—It’s not about attraction to the body, it’s about attraction the other creatures soul/ressonace. If non sexual organs than asexual—It’s inconvenient to have a desire for into course with no outcome for reproduction——Unless the alien wants to play the game that way of course, for some reason. Bi is a sexual evolution—something requiring a higher development in society in order to maintain and sustain. Tier 2 sexuality in a sense—As it is literally ‘Bi’—Fusion of both poles—sexuality. However, This doctrine already makes sense for me as I am already energetically androgynous—like MJ or other figures and rockstars—And I notice that this actually stabilizes my energy 3x and makes me feel like 5x more intelligent, and naturally more tolerant of others, but idk. I wonder how it works on someone with a more standard operating system. Experiment: Try to imagine being attracted to another’s—anyone’s—soul rather than their body. Open to any sexual experience of any kind. How does that possibly sound. Does it feel natural? Expansive? More spiritual? Higher order? How do you feel in your body? How about in your mind. What do you experience? Your energy? Does it feel deconstructing as a Truth? Let me know how it turns out, Testing the hypothesis with other people is great for the development of this field. Attraction Is for the most part Is cultural conformity— (People being attracted to the nape of a girls neck or black teeth in Japan, a girl’s heel in England, flat chests during the renaissance, etc). I like what I like of course, I’m just saying there’s no reason to limit yourself in attraction or experience for the sake of your culture, etc. Free your mind to all possibility. That is a higher order.
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Karmadhi replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
You realize how racist that sounds? (this one: " I think for him it's simple: Palestinian = backwards religious lunatics and terrorists. I think many people look at the issue as one of backwards Muslims vs civilized Israelis, and side with civilized Israelis ") "Israeli IS more developed than Palestine" I am really curious to understand how you come to that conclusion. What constitutes development to you? Because to me it is linked mostly with moral development, not technological development. "There is a xenophobic aspect to this as well. Muslims are just more alien to the West than Jews. Basically, people are simple-mindedly picking the less alien side." This is like 90% of the true reason, just good old racism and xenophobia and the medias are a huge factor of that They are still traumatized from 9/11 25 years after which clouds their judgement -
Leo Gura replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think for him it's simple: Palestinian = backwards religious lunatics and terrorists. I think many people look at the issue as one of backwards Muslims vs civilized Israelis, and side with civilized Israelis. Of course that's not my view. But I understand the allure of that view. If you are not deeply informed and objective, then civilized Israelis seems the better side. Israeli IS more developed than Palestine. That's the bottom line for many people. They are choosing based on development level, not morality or justice. There is a xenophobic aspect to this as well. Muslims are just more alien to the West than Jews. Basically, people are simple-mindedly picking the less alien side. For someone like Trump, he's thinking about it like this: Would I rather be allied with rich Jews or poor Muslims? The answer for him is obvious. -
We all know psychedelics promote neuroplasticity, and I had decided to take full advantage one particular evening by taking 4 tabs of lsd and 4 grams of penis envy mushrooms. I do these kinds of trips like once a year, usually with some ketamine and dmt in the mix to really go as deep as I can without pushing my limits too hard. I have a high tolerance, so I would not recommend doing this unless you start small. But what you can do on any trip is listen to some crazy ass music and see what happens - it's like dropping a catalyst into your consciousness, and you just simply bear witness to the chaos that ensues. I put on this tune called "Earther" by Giant Claw, and the results exceeded my expectations to such an extent that it became extremely overwhelming. If you start to freak out, consider staying for a bit longer because maybe there's a lesson there. I've found this to be very true on psychedelics - the longer you stick with a problem, the more you are rewarded for it. However if it comes to the point where you're completely losing consciousness for periods of 5 seconds and between those intervals you feel violent bursts of electricity rupturing through your body, that is a good time to stop. Just turn on some ambient and you will be be fine in 5 seconds, like a baby. Other bizarre psychedelic experiences I've had include but are not limited to - Flying backwards upside down through an alien matrix and being plugged into their "internet" Smiles and other qualia occupying physical space, as if coming to me from across the room The feeling of being sent to a parallel universe that never fully went away Seeing open-eye hallucinations in absurd resolution Subrealities opening up within a localized part of my field of vision The purest, most radiant light I have ever seen coming out of my hand These things can really surprise you. And I'm trying to lean into that here! The light was a lot like this image, only 10x more radiant.
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Lucasxp64 replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Within Buddhism they sort of acknowledge a lot of mystical experiences that don't have much to do with the path to the cessation of suffering, just like in Christianity that they have all kinds of ideas about miracles, demons and angels, etc. But we know that their goal is none of those things, they are just part of their universe. I think this is what can make religions have a certain flavor of what is possible within their universe, meanwhile others might not even register something as plausible. Like focusing at breaking down your field of consciousness is an extremely alien idea to Christianity, meanwhile within Buddhism it's close to the techniques they use to achieve their goals. So to them, acknowledgement of the truth of the ego as a construct is absolutely bizarre, because they think your soul is this indivisible entity that was spawn once in your birth (or as a fetus, or whatever, even before your dad's sperm entered your mom's egg, because some are against using condoms). And then Christian's use that "eternal soul" idea to peddle stuff like that you're going to eternal suffering in hell or will be reborn back to earth once a special day comes and the sinners won't get eternal pleasure, and that will depend on your moral following of Jesus teachings. Within Buddhism the idea of rebirth is more fluid so it leads to other secondary conclusions, like the mind being reborn due to desire from moment to moment, or you being reborn as a shit eating fly if you are too obsessed with your girlfriend or wife in the moment of your death because you want to be close to her at any cost lol. But also you can be reborn as a higher being like some alien that feels a thousand orgasms per second, but even then you're not exactly enlightened.
