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@Leo Gura I don’t understand how you can make a blog post about Hallucinating Tom Cruise and then say manifestation isn’t real.

As a quick update: I'm still trying to manifest various things. I have to admit that so far I haven't had any results. I did get some results from a more psychological manifestation, but haven't been able to manifest anything physical so far. Due to the theoretical reasons for thinking this should be possible, I'm not going to be giving up for a while. Expect more updates.

Matt Dillahunty is like a toddler struggling to learn how to walk compared to Leo. There is no debate to be had. It’s about consciousness.

Julian of Norwich is a stage blue Christian and she spends much of the book making theological speculations based on her visions, which are largely clouded in Christian dogma (such as the Trinity, original sin, hell, etc.). A low stage of cognitive development makes one's interpretations of mystical experience very misled. Also, visions come in the symbols you understand at the time, which for her were Christian ones. Nonetheless, the endearing part of all this is that the truth still sneaks in. She is indoctrinated into a Christian worldview, but despite this fact her intention is pure enough to get a glimpse of truth. She essentially wants to be closer to God, and God shows her that it isn't by sinning less that she gets there but by dropping the notion of sin altogether and realizing that everything is Love. The lesson in my mind is that having a pure intention is most important in spiritual work. As long as you have a pure intention, you will have some kind of insight or awakening given enough time. This is the power of direct experience over intellectual understanding.

Thanks, glad it was insightful!

It almost seems to simple. But maybe that's not a mistake. I don't know, I'll have to contemplate this more. I'd be interested to see what Leo has to say.

I would post this in high consciousness resources, but since the sub-forum is closed I'll have to post here. Revelations of Divine Love is a high-consciousness resource where the medieval Christian anchoress Julian of Norwich describes her visions of God. This is interesting for a couple reasons: 1) insights into the nature of Love and suffering, 2) how spiral dynamics stage affects mystical visions. Here are some of her visions and insights. She has a vision of a hazelnut, which represents the entire universe and God's love for it. "I looked at it and thought, 'What can this be?' And the answer came to me, 'It is all that is made.' I wondered how it could last, for it was so small I thought it might suddenly disappear. And the answer in my mind was, 'It lasts and will last for ever because God loves it; and in the same way everything exists through the love of God.' " God's love, or Existence's self-love, is what eternally sustains everything. She saw a lot of things in the visions, but... "I did not see sin; for I believe it has no sort of substance nor portion of being, nor would it be recognized were it not for the suffering which it causes." "And when I saw that God has made all things, I saw nothing of you [sin]; and when I saw that God is in all things, I saw nothing of you; and when I saw that God does all things that are done, greater and lesser, I saw nothing of you.” "How can anything be amiss?" You get the point. Sin is not real; it is a human delusion. Julian obviously had to see through a lot of Christian conditioning to get this point. There is nothing that is morally wrong: shooting someone in the head, genocide, etc. -- it is all good from the absolute point of view. God is too good to see anything as evil. It perfectly understands and loves everything. God loves and willingly undergoes suffering "And in these words, 'If I could suffer more, I would suffer more,' I truly saw that he was willing to die as often as he was able to die, and love would never let him rest until he had done it." God is an infinite suffering manufacturer. This is because suffering isn't actually real, so there is no reason to avoid it. There is no suffering as we think of it to a completely unbiased mind. My insights This helped me realize that not only can suffering be transcended -- a hypothesis that anyone who's heard of spirituality is aware of -- but it was never real in the first place. Suffering is one of the greatest illusions. Every time you are suffering, you are completely and utterly deluded. This doesn't mean you will transcend all of it, but you can use this principle to reframe all the suffering you experience. Also, suffering is the same thing as sin. The human ideas of suffering and sin (something being morally wrong) are both offshoots of the same delusion; neither are real. ____________________________________________________________________ If you guys found this interesting, I can write a little bit about how spiral dynamics plays into this too.

I don't see why not. God doesn't rely on mechanisms. It's a different question whether and when this will show up in our physical consensus reality though.

I think the only way to answer this question is to figure out what others being conscious even means. How do you know that others are conscious, let alone AI? It's plausible that AI can be conscious in the same way that others can be, but what is the nature of others' consciousness and how does it compare to your own consciousness? You have to go through solipsism to answer this question, which of course these materialist tech fools are miles away from.

@Leo Gura I have a question about solipsism. When you communicate solipsism to "others," are they having a conscious experience of receiving the message? As I remember, in the solipsism video you said that the viewer is imagining you having a conscious experience. In the same video, you claimed to be conscious that there is no one to teach and you're just playing a game with yourself. So which one is it: are you imagining the viewer or is the viewer imagining you? When you tell the viewer that they are imagining you, from your point of view are you telling a being you imagined that they are imagining you? By the way, I know this assumes you have a point of view. The confusing part to me is that if you think the viewer is imagining you, you can't truly believe you are God because that would contradict your absolute sovereignty.

I just wanted to share this video, as I think it's a good motivational speech. The guy is talking about becoming lean and improving your physique, but the lesson applies to all areas in life. The key idea is: People prefer for you to be the same as them because different people stand out. If you make radical changes to your life, there will be a period of isolation and judgment. However, if you can stick it out and prove that what you were pursuing was worthwhile, people will eventually come around and give you massive admiration.

@BlessedLion you didn't respond to my points.

I'm not very deeply awake. However, here are a few things that have changed from the insights I've had. I suffer far less because I realize I'm creating my suffering I view suffering as an illusion that doesn't truly exist I view chasing material success as stupid and short-sighted I see through religious people as deluded fools I see through scientific people's constructs I am aware of the gross arrogance and ineptitude of human knowledge I am aware that my consciousness is eternal and I can't really die I am emotionally equinanimous

Do you have an actual argument or insight?

Okay, fair enough.