AtmanIsBrahman

Like I said, I don't think there's a solution (aside from possibly enlightenment). My best advice is to fall in love with the mystery of reality.

@Ayham we're in the same boat. Its the dark night of the soul, I guess. There's no easy solution

Schopenhauer's idea of will is more about referring to the universe as one giant will, or consciousness (to connect it with Leo's teachings) Leo's point in the philosophy video is that you need to find out what is true yourself. If you think Sartre was a really cool guy, that doesn't have anything to do with finding out what is true. It just makes you more likely to believe his ideas without any real reason. Look up "spiral dynamics turquoise" on youtube. The inventors of spiral dynamics had him take it down, but it's still there on another channel.

How can we go about our lives when no one knows what reality is? We all just go about our days doing the most meaningless of things, caught up in our illusions, self-deceptions, identity, and utter ignorance. We privilege one part of reality over another: some of us like socializing over being alone, or the reverse, all of us have hobbies that we consider better than others, and our worldviews are of course always correct. In this forum there is a small island of 'spiritual' (for lack of a better word) people who want to go beyond this shallow ordinary existence. But even so, the most enlightened of us still go about day-to-day activities like everyone else, since the psychedelic peak only lasts so long. As the adage goes, 'chop wood, carry water'. If feels so random, like a joke the universe has played on us. We have been generated from a pool of absolute infinity and thrown into a limited human form. Yet few of us have ever even conceived of the possibility. As an exercise, try closing your eyes, then opening them and looking at your body? If you're able to think, WTF?!, then you get the insight I am trying to describe here.

Maybe some of you have heard of the classical theistic proof of God that was formulated by Aristotle, Aquinas, and a bunch of other philosophers. It goes like this in its simplest form: 1) There is stuff 2) Stuff came from somewhere 3) What it came from is God Now, by the way, try your best to disprove this argument-- I don't think it can be done, even though I made up the most basic and bordering on stupid formulation of the argument (but it is genius in its stupidity). But the key oversight is that all this stuff here, also know as creation, consciousness, or reality, doesn't have a source beyond it, and really God is the creation and the creator. The essence of this argument is a causal chain: a -> b -> c ; etc. The point is that there must be something at the end of that chain that is sourcing it. But what is it? The laws of nature, some material thing? Of course not. The source is the entire causal chain and its beginning and end; in other words, it is infinity. Reality is groundless, but at the same time it is grounded and it is the ground. Now let us apply this thinking to awakening. Where is the end of awakening, or does it continue infinitely? Is the realization that it goes infinitely the awakening? It seems that there could be a final insight, a final awakening that brings together all the others into a superposition, almost like when all the buildings fold into one another in the movie "Inception." The end of infinity.

It’s an okay movie, not that deep imo despite the title

Highly recommend it! I think it is even better than tree of life, which is a great movie in its own right.

It isn't common to find truly high consciousness movies. This one, "Knight of Cups" by Terrence Malick, is essentially a long allegory about awakening. It has no real plot but is just filled with beautiful imagery as the main character loses himself in "the dream". The first video I linked is a trailer; the second is a compilation of all the voice-overs from the movie. I highly recommend actually watching the whole movie though, because it is like visual poetry and extremely profound. Images can go beyond the limitations of language. That's why profound, existential films like this can potentially cause an awakening, or at least bring the possibility for higher consciousness. The director of this movie was originally a philosopher and turned to film to do what philosophy can't.

I'm not sure the analogy applies Yes, but isn't it possible that you could deceive yourself? And the awakening is probably just to one facet of infinity, not the whole thing. I honestly wonder whether it's possible at all to awaken to absolute infinity. There are always more levels.

How do you know if you've had an awakening? Is it really such an undeniable realization that you know for sure is true, like Leo and other teachers have said? What about self-deception... and what does it really mean to be conscious of something... Let's say I'm conscious that reality is infinite in this moment. But what does that really mean? Do I know that since reality is one by definition, that there cannot be any other reality to impose a limit on reality, and therefore reality is limited? This is a sort of intellectual understanding, but it is understanding nonetheless. Does it mean that I have an unusually imaginative mind and I can imagine a fractal that appears as infinite in my minds eye? But what about all the other ways the fractal could manifest, what about all the other things besides the fractal, what about cat infinity, video game infinity, all infinities - the infinite set, the set of all sets? If I've taken a psychedelic and feel a cosmic connectedness combined with visuals of fractals or something similar, and get a feeling that I have seen infinity and I am infinity, the godhead, the absolute, have I really become conscious of infinity-- and if so, to what extent?

How do you know "others" have not attained the same realization of solipsism as you but just frame it differently?

@Leo Gura isn't solipsism and oneness of reality really just the same thing. Isn't this arguing on the forum just about definitons, different ways of attempting to express absolute truth using language (which can't be done)?

I haven't looked into his courses, so I didn't mention them. I've seen some of his videos on aliens, which seem interesting. What I mean about his Hindu bias is that he explains existential things with a Hindu framework, and I'm not sure he realizes that it is just a framework.

I'm not going to accuse you of being a fanboy. I generally agree that what sadhguru does is good, I was just trying to point out some limitations of his teachings. That being said, the last video you shared about the 84 universes is an example of where Sadhguru tries to go into scientific and conceptual topics and ends up spewing nonsense. Hopefully you can see that there being exactly 84 universes is a ridiculous notion.