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This is peak respect

I’m not making a Motte-and-Bailey argument. You’re mistaking clarification for a change in position. My original post was blunt, and when I elaborate on the reasoning behind it, the argument naturally gains more nuance and may sound less harsh. That can create the illusion that I’ve softened or changed my stance, when in reality, I’m simply explaining the position I held from the beginning. An argument doesn’t become a different argument just because its reasoning is explained in greater detail. I stand by my original point, and I’m not going to keep repeating myself.

You’re so obsessed with me, it’s getting worrying. I don’t want to have to involve the police, but I will do what I have to if this continues.

My point was that a man can genuinely care about his woman and not be comfortable with certain behaviours in a relationship. You see that as control, but I see it as a man who takes his relationship seriously and has standards for it. I never said every restriction automatically proves love, but I don’t think it automatically proves control either.

That’s an interesting perspective, and I can see your point about how suppressing certain behaviours might leave underlying issues unresolved. I think it also comes down to compatibility and shared values, though. Some couples are perfectly happy with clubbing, while others prefer different boundaries in their relationships. Neither approach has to be wrong, as long as both people genuinely agree and feel respected.

I’m not moving the goalposts. My point is that “allow” doesn’t automatically mean coercion. A man can have standards, and a woman can willingly choose to respect them. That’s the distinction I’m making.

I’m not a pervert. Please apologize. That’s not fair.

You keep assuming that having expectations means trying to change someone. People can willingly adjust their behaviour out of respect for their partner. Not every expectation is control, and not every compromise is a loss of freedom. Relationships require more than just doing whatever you want and leaving when someone disagrees.

I’m just a guy who likes sex. Leave me alone.

We’re literally in the dating section. Do you want me to talk about the weather in Africa instead?

Say it louder queen

Lol

That’s sounds inappropriate, very sexual if you ask me

You’re right, how does we solve this problem?

A relationship isn’t just about what you’re free to do, but also what you’re willing to respect for your partner. You call it control; someone else might call it commitment and shared values. The difference is whether it’s forced or freely accepted.