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RMQualtrough replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No reincarnation. Just incarnation. Check it - a baby was just born, guess who the baby is? It's us, suckaaaa. -
Guest replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All that "reincarnation" means is change of form after (supposed) death. That's it. So either there will be a change of this apparent form at some point, or there won't. What do you think? (And if your answer is that future, change and form are nothing but mental concepts, you get an extra cookie for being a good nondual boyscout. ) -
Consilience replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the most basic level, if a dream popped up once, why couldn't it happen again? I mean seriously... What is more likely, the 0.00000000(to infinity)1% chance that you managed to spring into existence and it's a one and done deal, or that the same mechanism where you spontaneously appeared could happen again? There's also apparently objective data giving authority to the idea of reincarnation - children recalling specific details of past lives, or how their last life ended and the researchers being able to verify that information. Overall, my thinking is why wouldn't it happen again if it already happened once? At a higher level, there is no reincarnation. The flow of experience just flows. To suggest there was ever a "life" that was "incarnated" to begin with is a misperception of perception. Therefore, when the physical body dies, this says nothing about the flow of experience already present and the fact that this flow of experience is utterly independent of the physical body. Nothing actually dies, just changes. -
happyhappy replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
soooo, why is he still not addressing the stuff in Buddhism like karma and reincarnation the way Buddha and Hindu sages did. he seems to be offering slight hints at this but still keeps away from going to details..?any reasons why ? -
CuriousityIsKey replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ye, the Difference is though, Hinduism celebrates life , but Buddha wanted to wake up from the cycle of reincarnation once and for all. -
CuriousityIsKey replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How do I break free from thos cycle of ongoing reincarnation into different forms? Namaste -
Maru replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@RMQualtrough i define death as a point of no return. If they came back, were they really dead? I am not saying there is reincarnation, but your asuming the universe is a liniar mechanism? For all we know you might just be god imagining the whole universe and i am just you playing wordgames with yourself on a forum you imagined -
The0Self replied to Arzack's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If there is no actual separate soul, then anything that involves it is a dream. There aren't any limits to what can be imagined to happen in a dream. Therefore, reincarnation can be real while not being absolutely true. -
CuriousityIsKey replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But me as God then, will I ever have an existence in a corporeal from in which I will have total control over reality? Or am I eternally doomed to reincarnation into different corporeal forms without having the ability to control reality? Like for example to decide that there won't be aging, illnes etc.? -
The0Self replied to iboughtleosbooklist's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Even if there is a sort of reincarnation, I take it you probably don’t remember your previous life, right? If that’s the case, then you probably won’t remember this one — i.e. it will be like you never existed, if you do reincarnate, though in that case of course “you” reincarnating is a bit nonsensical. -
Arzack replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are levels of enlightenment. Google Jan esmann. But there's a limit which we can surpass on the astral plane once we finish our reincarnation circle on the physical plane. Source: the Michael Teachings and the wingmakers website. -
@KatiesKarma hayyyy katie!!! many claim soooo... even leo shared his thought on this where he speculated it is possible for you to have some karmic repercussions due to ur hindering of evolution of consciousness. this karma is not at all a judgement but rather a self imposed reaction to ur life. anyways , although even leo buys into past life and reincarnation model, it is also possible this is also a fallacy... after all, since many spiritual traditions claim this independently, we have to take in to account that there is some truth to them even if without direct experience rather than being a false skeptic..sooo, LOVE UR LIFE...IT'S THE GREATEST GIFT U HAVE!
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SelfHelpGuy replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@mandyjw @SQAAD @Breakingthewall @Tim R @The Lucid Dreamer @JosephKnecht @OneHandClap @Rilles @Judy2 But constantly being reborn until you become pure Godlike seems like it's not from the highest good/love. If you tell me that If I don't do good things or if I don't do this or that then I'll be reborn as a lesser being or go to a hellish realm that literally just installs fear as a motivator to be better. Then you would only be a good person or do good thing "so you don't go to hell" / out of fear? --- That's fucked, imo. I hope that things are so that you get a choice each lifetime if you wanna continue, something doesn't quite ring true in my heart about this whole worse reincarnation thing / hell realms if you do bad things. My inkling (still not verified yet) is that we simply unite into one infinity as love forever eternally, then we get bored of infinity and be a being again. Play a new character, change the character's clothes, appearance, give it wings whatever the fuck. But Idk still, unless we have a direct experience of a final human physical death WE CAN'T KNOW. All of us here are still writing on a forum so non of us know, maybe it'll be a nice surprise when it's our time. Yes, some people have had NDE's and have died (I don't discount that) however non of us that are still breathing have had the "FINAL" physical death. Yes Ego death is basically the same thing,,,, BUTTT not quite, not physically and permanently - you have to actually die and stay dead to truly know LOL. Let's find out when we find out and live by love in the meantime. -
SQAAD replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Tim R Basically Karma. I think every action has a consequence. There is no free ride. I think that some characteristics of the soul can survive death into the next reincarnation. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ram dass video on reincarnation popped on my youtube screen just now, might be a synchronisity. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@SelfHelpGuy nice examples ? I think if some people can remeber what they did yesterday, and some people can remember what they did in the previous lifetime, there is not much difference. Well I don't have a full understanding on this but what buddha or Jesus would say is that ego doesn't die after death. It takes another form. It could take an eartly body, or some other body, or go to heavenly realm or to hell. Where you go depends on how much evolution of the soul has been made here on earth. I don't even myself understand it fully so... but ego survives bodily death according to almost all if not 100% of all religions and spiritual traditions in the world even in advaita studies nobody denies reincarnation. Only "expert nondualists" on this forum have funny ways of disproving everything that they don’t like. ? I think reincarnation is like taking all the data and all the softwares from one computer and uploading it to another computer. If you want ego death, all data has to be obliterated through spiritual practice or antivirus self deleting program killing a computer won't kill the data inside it. When a body dies, I think the personality and the karmic substance and all data of the ego can float around in the energy body in the space or take another womb. The personality and the karmic substance is recorded in the energy body. This energy that carries the information and data of the personality is called the soul. The soul's energy and universe's energy is ultimately the same but it is being seperated by the ego and karmic substance. Like a bubble in the air. Air inside the bubble and air outside the bubble is the same air but a bubble is formed becouce of the ego mass around the energy and appareat seperation of individual soul happens. Dissolving the bubble or the karmic structure makes the bubble dissapear and the soul energy reunites with the cosmos energy. Aka, mahasamadhi. If you dissolve the ego bubble fully, the energy that carries the person's data will no longer be entrapped by the personality and just unites with infinity. Like the bubble bursting and air joining the cosmos. -
Shin replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nobody is saying that reincarnation is not a phenomenon than God can dream up. It's just confusing and assumes there is ultimately a soul somewhere separated from God. Which leads to beliefs that you can't join God (realize that you're God) unless you've reincarnated yourself x number of times. And of course, if this is the case, completely close the possibility to realize that you're God right now. -
iboughtleosbooklist replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hmmmm, sleep is very much like death. If I fully believed my body was dying then I could see reincarnation as a possibility. I know there's no me, but the illusive dream characters POV could go through a dream of dying. I wouldn't want to fully write off reincarnation or death, honestly who knows? It's the great unknown what happens to all the characters and how the dream may change. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's really unfair to use nondual phylosophy to dismiss reincarnation. Reincarnation is like going to sleep and waking up in the morning again. Going to sleep would be equivalent to death, and waking up in the morning would be equivalent to entering a new womb. Just because everything is one and there is no seperate self doesn't disprove the fact that there is such a thing as sleep and waking up in the morning. I'm not saying reincarnation is real or unreal. I'm saying nonduality is really a poor way of disproving reincarnation. Nonduality has nothing to do with this subject at all. Nonduality only points to the absolute truth there is no such thing as death. Because consciouness can't die and was never born. But consciouness also can’t fall asleep and can't wake up. And so? Does that mean sleep doesn't exist? A hardcore nondualist would say sleep doesn't exist because there is no self to fall asleep or to wake up (or smth like that). But from a normal human relative perspective sleep and waking up is very much real phenomena we all experience every day. To use nondual phylosophy to dismiss everything is really unfair. You can say there's no such thing as eating because consciouness doesn't have a stomach. And there is no self so who is eating? You can basicly prove any kind of bullshit with this nondual phylosophy. Nondual phylosophy has it's place and is beautiful but it should not be used in every area of life. Even ramana maharshi the god of advaita and nonduality says there is reincarnation... -
Shin replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can go to infinite love right now because that's what God is, and you're God (the ego doesn't need to die, you can just realize what it is from God pov). Those 100 lives thing, it's just an another dream inside God's mind, you can go straight to God (you). Believing into those reincarnation things only limit you. -
Tim R replied to caspex's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are different ways of understanding what is meant by "reincarnation". The Hindus will tell you one thing, the Theravada Buddhists will tell you another thing and the Zen Buddhists will tell you something else altogether. The way I understand reincarnation is that every time you identify yourself with a particular form, you are being reincarnated. You believe there was a past "you", don't you? And you also believe that you will go on into the future, no? If you think that there is a continuous "you", you are being reincarnated. Because you identify with a certain pattern. This pattern is the foundation of your illusory sense of self, it's what you identify with. Imagine a river. This river is constantly flowing along, never the same. You could say "there is no such thing as 'a river', there's only the continuous flowing pattern". And if you think there is "a river" (even as "a continuous pattern of flow"), the river is being reincarnated, you see? Just in the same way, if you think that there is a flowing form that "you are" (i.e. you identify yourself with) and that is in some way fixed and continuous like the river, that is your reincarnation. But if you see through the illusion of time and you stop identifying yourself with any particular form, you're liberated from reincarnation (Samsara). You see that you were never born, you're not alive now, and you will never die. Edit: That's much rather a Mahayana Buddhist understanding of reincarnation. The literal sense of a soul being reincarnated into a body is both the Hindu and the Western understanding of it, but both are founded on the belief of a soul being inside a body. -
So I just had a MIND BLOWING AMAZING Mushroom Trip, I realized that I was God all along , I am literally love itself, as Alan Watts said, I am it, and for the first time ever, I felt it. I felt like I know the secret: Love. It was love all along <3 As amazing as this felt , I felt the best I have ever felt in my entire life. However, now I don't how to word this: Do other people exist ? What are my family ? Are they beings equivalent to me ? Are they me? Are we all souls walking each other home on this plane called Life / Lila ? I love everyone, But what is behind other people ? Is there a paradox that I am missing ? When I have fun with friends or a loving meal with my family, is there anyone loving it with me ? Is this the cost of enlightenment? , Is it right that God would feel lonely on Earth ? If I die , do my family still live on Earth ? Is there beings that still go on this Journey after me ? Is reincarnation real? I would LOVE ADVICE , Thanks so much
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Nahm replied to omar30's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Knew you were gonna say that. Took years to get that nonduality is all that is, and there is no reincarnation, and yet I’m talking with ‘dead’ people standing right in front of me, which are much more ‘real’ as in vivid etc, than ‘regular real’, so to speak. The issue with communicating this goes back to the thoughts. When you’re reading what I’m saying thoughts arise, and the direct experience pointed to can’t be thought. But can be experienced. The movies Interstellar and The Arrival are more or less about this. -
well, we live in a world of crazed, superficial people, where it is almost impossible not to become a very stupid neurotic, and the more stupid, the smarter you think you are. a world of crazy teenagers, another world of slaves of the industrial revolution, and another of hopeless wretches, all of them prisoneers of the ego. Almost better be the miserable than the rich. The truth is that it does not seem very beautiful, for me better being born in the Paleolithic and dying at 17, but this is what there is, so let's make the most of it and pray that there is no reincarnation, if not, statistically, in the giveaway gon 'get you some horrible shit
