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Ok, I try. But be aware this is extremely difficult to do it in a monological form via text, and hardly complete. Good news is: At that stage the path shows itself to itself if one just continues with the right meditation/awareness techniques. The illusion-mechanisms pop up one by one. If applying a good understanding of what will show up, the process can be fastened. It is like adding a blow-torch to the burning down of the illusion-building. So, here we go: Any thought implying I/me. "I-feeling" any understanding you have ("I" understand) any doubt ("I" doubt) all of it very subtle and fast forms of feeling separate. Or thinking that. Very fast & very subtle. Way faster than a thought elaborated over several second. Tenths/fractions of a second... Speed of awareness is crucial, that is being trained here And strength of awareness, to be able to also cut off core separate-self identities and suffering/resistance. Reckognizing that, not getting hypnotized by that, cutting it off by looking into its nature (empty consciousness). and since its very hard to tell the difference if a thought-arising is laced with individuality/separation/identity: Cutting off all of them, just for training. Yet, one can at other times also maintain ones awareness during practical daily life/thoughts. And memory of the past: It is being imagined right now, appears as complete "chunk" out of Infinite Consciousness/Being, and then gets elaborated in thought (which is very slow compared to how it emerges "fully" formed. That is truly a mindf*** when your awareness gets fast enough to spot for the first time how the complete past emerges immediately as "whole block" and then is slowly elaborated, fooling one to believe one is that "I" having this memory and thoughts. You see then how each any anything is just emerging to fool oneself. That is an aspect that Leo emphasizes with his concept of God-Realization. The past is radically imagined right now, there is no past. There is only an Infinite Formless eternal "Field" modulating itself to give the appearance of a past. Same for the "future". You don't have a past, You are an Infinite Vastness that is able to make up the past on the fly, and then have thoughts/feelings-arisings that "believe" that. Yet, that Infinite Vastness/Being CAN UNDERSTAND, and so it can understand that the past is imagined on the fly here and now. That is a major understanding/building block of Enlightenment, or seeing that separation from it all (separate self) is just an imagined arising within oneself. One is not a human, but the Infinite Vastness/Being (which is luckily also always here, aka immortal/eternal, can't go anywhere infinite Nothingness with nothing outside of it) imagining a human and all its elements moving/appearing within itself. So it is Duality gone (visual field nondual) -> Nondual boundless infinite (boundary of the field is gone) -> Infinite solidity of "external" visual field is gone, replacing solidity with mere groundless lucid appearance -> imagined illusion/lucidity/non-material, mere imagined empty hologram like appearance. time is gone (as described above, past imagined right now) -> always here, never not here Infinite Mind/Being. Eternal, immortal, absolutely fundamental, all is appearing and arising in it, always. space is gone (imagined IN the infinte vastness of True Being) -> space doesnt exist outside, space is imagined in oneself, the vastness of Infinity (which is not 3d space), and there is no 3D-space (or any space at all, non-euclidian, 4D, whatever) possibly existing outside of your Infinite Being. No outside. Infinite. All there is. Space is not self-existing outside of ones own nondual infinite being. It is imagined by it. What is behind your face? "beyond" the visual field. Not (3d-)space, but the Infinite (Being). -> spaceless, dimensionless, infinite. Containing all possible dimensions and realms, high and low. all of that is imagined/constructed/manifested right here right now in ones nondual True eternal Being, Infinite Consciousness/Being. -> A mirage/illusion appearing in ones Infinite Being, giving rise to the illusion of a human life within it. Another way to say that is: In Pointing out the Great Way, Brown is one statement: If everything (1) all appearance of the world/visual field is seen as mere appearance (empty) hovering lucid and hologram like in Infinite Vastness (that can still be stage 3&4 Thisdell with separate-self well and alive, and that is why that is accesible via psychedelics) AND (2) each and any thought/feeling arising/"internal" mindstream event (including everything one believed oneself to be, I-feeling, I-thoughts, the whole history, the whole asking what is Reality/True Being, ALL of it) is seen as empty arising in Infinite Being/Nothingness/Consciousness. which means that ones mindstream is then conforming to the enlighened mindstream, or close to how Infinite Reality really is. Then Enlightenment can happen. But it can't be forced, since that would be thoughts with a thinker identified with them, with I-feelings, wanting something. Infinite Being/Consciousness has to understand itself, with no artifical activity/separate self trying to force it. At that point, the properties of the mindstream above can be automized, and this automatic meditation/mindfulness can be protected ("mindfulness without [artificial activity]"), element (1) of Nonmeditation Yoga, see Pointing out the Great Way, Brown). One doesnt't focus on anything (which Daniel Brown calls particularizing). This picking out something specific with attention (particularizing, the fastest process of the mind, way faster than thinking) is what creates Duality, or better disrupts the original nonduality. Instead, one watches how particularization happens, and transcends that in a way that the boundless nondual unity with/of the visual field is not interrupted. Element (2) of Nonmeditation Yoga, "do not take to mind". and then maintains and waits in that state. Meditation and Mindfulness in these awakened nondual states does itself. Enlightenment can't be forced, because who would do the forcing? Instead, the Infinite Vastness/Being can understand/realize itself (or its True Nature) when conditions are exactly right. That is then Enlightenment. Bye bye illusion-human, hello Infinite Being/Reality "having" a human,. Making the mindstream conform to the enlightened mindstream so that Enlightenment can happen is very important, because that part can be done by intelligent and informed practice. And that is why an efficient system is way faster, more efficient for most than and way more pleasent than a brute force approach like sitting an staring at the wall (brute force method), concentration or Koan-style. more likely to work than betting on just by having the right Karma and enough of the mere-appearance-infinite-character of the visual field and thought/feeling space in place already (Ramana, Anamanda Ma), and then some contemplation based on the already very much conforming mindstream Only those who needed to walked the steps can tell about the steps. Those are on top can mainly tell about how the properties of the roof are/what Truth is, but its more difficult to talk about steps that didn't have to be taken/climbed because they were already in place. The low success rate of the Enlightenment-endeavours in my perspective is due to mostly using brute-force-methods (which need lots and lots of willpower and pushing through negative emotions on the pillow) with no clear map of the steps of the path and the lots of cul-de-sacs of the path, or prodigy-approaches of telling about nature of True Being, but not offering a method path for average-gifted persons (Ramana for example). So, conforming to the enlightened mindstream mainly is: (1) Visual Field nondual, mere appearance, "hovering" in Infinite Vasteness/Infinity, being manifested/imagined right now (2) every thought arising/feeling arising is seen as emerging out of True Being/consciousness, made out of it, moving in it. Especially all thoughts/feelings relating to I/me. Feels impersonal, no separate indiduality found in any of that. And based on that the separate self (what one thought oneself to be) can be realized as mere flow of colours/appearances/feelings/thoughts (which have a very coherent and well made structure/Gestalt, and therefor are extremly hypnotizing and seem believeable) appearing in Oneself (Infinite Being), including the whole past, and that one IS the always here Infinite Eternal Field of Being/Consciousness. And the former separate-self is like the tree-picture in this wikipedia-article (below): A representation for something that appears (the tree), but has no independend existence apart from True Being (which is the nondual infinite eternal vastness of Being right here and now, with the body and mindstream having no different priority or separation from all that is). A well made illusion. The picture of the tree concept doesn't point to a real tree outside of consciousness (an object), but to shapes/colours of an imagined trees within Infinite Consciousness, not to real trees that exist outside of Infinite Being, self-existing/indepdently existing outside of consciousness. There are no trees, just the concept of them, and some imagined colours/forms/sensations giving the Gestalt of an appearance of atree. Same way, there is no human/separate-self beyond the appearance-Gestalt, and the concept pointing to such an imagined self-existing entity. There is only Infinite Being, not the human (which only appears in Infinite Being). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept There always ever was, is and can be the Totality of (true) Being, self-aware, perceptions perceiving themselves. Either with reflective-self-consciousness arising (like normal human mind stream), or just mere awareness of the Totality without the self-consciousness part, perceptions perceiving themselves. Aware, but not separate. The non reflective-pure awareness of this vast field/being is more fundamental than the temporary appearing self-consciousness (with I-feelings I-thoughts). The Awareness is the Sun, the reflective (self-) consciousness (I-feeling, I-thoughts) is the reflected light of the Sun on the planets. Basically, its replacing ones old mistaken identity (imagined false illusion separate-self) with the correct identity, Infinite timeless/eternal (always here) Being. The flow of the human mindstream with its practical thoughts and so on happen within Ones True Being. One has a human, but is not only the human. Thoughts or feelings of separation are known to be illusion. When that shift happen, this realization is always available by just reaching out, or immediately always present. The visual field IS mere appearance and lucid/hologram/groundless, it IS infinite, eternal always here. Thoughts and feelings ARE just floating in it, made out of it, and "it" is onself, nondual. And that can be felt all the time or by just checking/moving attention there. It can never really be unseen. Reality/True Being understands itself. It is beyond doubt, unshakable, deathless/immortal always here. And that is the kicker: One/True Being is literally immortal and infinite. Not the ego, but True Being with its nature of Awareness. One can never die, and nothing outside one self can truly threaten one, because there is no outside of oneself. Seriousness and danger is replaced with laughter and security. Resting in True Being generates bliss, even when approaching it in Thisdells stage 4. Its a self-reinforcing positive feedback loop: Cutting off thoughts, field nondual, bliss flows. Literally. And that reinforces the stability of Nondual mere appearance visual field even more. Awakening enchances awakening. Suffering/resistance to what is no longer grips in any form since a long time. If it moves within ones being, is seen and let go. Would the inherent bliss of True Being ever be exchanged with grasping for being an ET seeing more of manifested reality, but suffers because its not enlightened? (more on that later). That is a "hard" shift, it is not just thinking differently. It is for sure not "I am God and imagine all reality", which is just cosplay. It is Reality understanding itself, Infinite Being waking up to itself. What can do the understanding of that? Reality/Being/Infinite Consciousness. Waking up to its True Nature. That last shift is knowing what one really is, and that understanding/realization runs over a short period of time. Waking up. Happens only once. And is final. Is beyond doubt (since these would only be more thoughts/arisings moving within Reality and subsiding into it). The shifts/Awakenings leading towards it go over a longer time, many years. And then of course there are infinite forms of manifestation, ET n+1, with vastly more understanding of the relative manifestations, basking in their understanding of the imagination process, different dimensions, higher realms, non-euclidian space, completely other alien manifestation realms. Humans look like ants compared to that for sure. These beings have been reported since millenia, in all cultures, all times. Reality-creating and maintaining Gods (Brahman, Shiva, Vishnu and endless other names for them). But it is the same True YOU, the only Being or Awareness in existence. The same being. There is nothing outside of it. No other (being, God, alien). And one can have an unenlightened ET, not having realized what Reality really is. Beings of higher realms are not necessarily enlightened. That tale is as old as the spiritual traditions. Although many of these beings of higher planes are enlightened. An unenlightened ET (which by definition has separate-self-elements not transcended/seen through in real time, which are by definition nothing other than the elements resisting the now, or suffering in other words) is a rather sad and suffering figure compared to a being who has realized its True Infinite Being. Calling the lower higher, and the higher lower. Whose modus operandi is that again? But lets not end too serious: It is all an illusion-game, "nobody" really gets lost forever, and Maya smiles lovingly on all not-really-(self)-existing-but-just-appearing children of Reality, humans and ETs alike. Although it can appear & feel very real & serious. Selling Water by the River

Besides endless amounts of NDEs, OBEs and past life memories... See the books of Christopher Bache for example, Jürgen Ziewe, Stanislav Grof. And countless reports all over the ages, derived from altered states (psychedelic, meditation, OBE, psychics,...). If you can keep the Absolute Perspective all the time in this life in fulltime awakened nondual states 24/7 and no longer suffer&resist, and expect that to hold in the next cycles, your reasoning is partly correct. If that is not the case, the attitude there is no next reincarnation & who cares about Karma will kick back big time in the next existence. Like it already does right now. Basically, its confusing Absolute Truth with Relative Truth. Do you think Infinite Reality is stupid enough to not to be able to store a bunch of tendencies of your relative self going from life to life (called Karma, mainly consisting out of wisdom/transcendence and compassion/love, and a lot of other imprints/tendencies/Karma) in an information bundle called "soul" on a higher dimension in Indras Net, as pretty much all above mentioned sources report? That is what reincarnates. On the relative/illusion-level, not on the absolute level. But I guess for most is the relative/illusion-level still quite "real" and "serious", like in suffering/resisting... All of that is relative appearance, part of the illusion/manifestation. Are you free of anything that reality can throw at you on the appearance level, like totally liberated 24/7? Then you can stop caring about these matters pretty much. But even for Enlightenments-gone-sour (lets make a nice cult to satisfy the remaining needs of a halfway-up-the-moutain not really stabilized Enlightenments that expresses itself not in all dimensions of the enlightened being in an integrated and loving way) that attitude of not caring will be kick-back, this life or the next. Mostly already this life. Anyway, this here is in the opinion of yours truly a quite smart idea: Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour. - Padmasambhava But I agree the show-factor (for the spectators) of spiritual bypassing and/or not taking relative truth ("Karma/Reincarnation") serious is way higher.

Yes. He is enlightened & smart enough to understand the process and tell about it in a systematic way. Since about 5-10 years there are increasingly excellent teachers describing the path in a non tradition-biased manner (not Buddhist-lingo, Not advaita, not Vedanta, not christian, not whatever), but with a clear phenomenology and structured & scientifiy way & language. Actually defining the terms they use in clear and coherent definitions, and showing the steps/experiments/injunctions necessary to get the reference experience, and then defining clear signifiers/words/definitions for these referent-experiences. John Churchill said in a podcast, we are witnessing the birth of a global Dharma. In 50-100 years, I guess we will not talk using Buddhist-Lingo, or Advaita, or whatever, but cross-tradition definitions of the steps of the path, highlighting universal steps of what happens in the mind on the path to salvation. Integrating the best and most efficient stuff of all traditions & current teachers available, That, and using psychedelics as preview & state-inductions of the awakened states. Interesting times to live in...

vs. I don't know a single case where stage 5 has been achieved without a looong meditation practice getting rid of the subtle remnants of stage 4. Because it takes a long time (for most) at the awakened nondual states of stage 4 to get rid of the most subtle remnants of the separate self. Psychedelics get one to stage 3 (nondual Unity Godmind), or in more sophisticated cases to stage 4. The difference between stage 4 and stage 5 is the death of any and all separate self identity in real time. Not one single subtle element of that sticks any more and is not seen trough/cut off/ seen as moving within oneself. And there are many very subtle elements that can prevent realization. And the difference between stage 4 and 5 is earth-shaking. That is why its called Enlightenment. And that prevents the clouding over you describe.

i am not an ego ... i came here to realize as much, to self realize, namely to identify with what i am which is nothing to do with an ego death is of an ego, it is no concern of mine ... if i as true self have awoken i return to the awakened mind and won't be needing another ego role life is god's mind waking up from its sleep and each awake figment returning to it renders it more awake and makes the dream end closer

Ever have a dream where you were somebody else? How did you act in that dream? What was your thinking like? Then you awakened and realized it was all a dream...but notice....you were still YOU even when you dreamed you were somebody else. Maybe you were a girl, maybe you were a cat, maybe you were an alien, maybe you were a soldier on a battlefield, whatever you were....you were YOU. This is something you should contemplate about. When I entered the void there was no body, no physical world, there was just nothing, but....I was still ME. That's when I realized what was being said when it said it was all MIND. No matter what I incarnate as, I will ALWAYS be ME. My mind thinks and constructs a particular way regardless of what I am. I had a dream today where I was some African Soldier in a futuristic world and was arguing with another African futuristic soldier about infiltrating high level security and different heroes in our respective Armies and their ability to infiltrate. I argued with him in the same way I would as if I were my current human self even though I lost ALL memory of me ever being my human self. I awoke from the dream telling him that he was wrong. When I awoke I felt the anger of the guy I was talking too and the anger of me and I laughed at the fact I was playing both roles and was fooling myself. Realize....your whole life....is just like this dream. This is what is meant by karma. You retain your habitual thinking and emoting patterns regardless of what form you take. THIS is how you are immortal. Sure your form is temporary, but your MIND is eternal. This is the gift of GOD.

Seelamun Alaikum I am not an expert or guru, academics, or religious scholars, etc But I believe i was gifted with something ever since I was a child spent wondering, just trying to make sense of the world around me in a bigger picture. I have gone through many stages without even knowing there are some people like me. Of course, there are. I found you guys, the first man I saw so openly in so much detail talk about subjects that many prefer to avoid was the man of the house; he impressed me. This is the guy I wanna be or be friends with. I said, 'I listen to his all of his teachings but left hardcore topics behind. two years and half ago and in one of the nights, I was watching one of the episodes (before I started, I said, 'Do not resist, what do you have to lose? Buy into it as another perspective'). About 15 minutes later, I don't remember what happened, all I remember is I found myself in the morning sitting against the wall, uttering words. Before I came back, I saw the spiral of stars as if I was in space. That awakened the life in my heart. That day, I learned the heart has a use beside pumping blood throughout our body. The next morning or later, I am crying, bubbling. Look what reality made for me, look at the carpet, the color, the wall. I remember the sun changed its course to look at me. I went into the room running back. I was happy and light like a child. I was circling the house. That made me serious, my habit changed, I changed, got even nuts, I wanted to learn more. The days, the energy rich at the top of my head, my perspective also changed. I saw society, what we are, 'walking zombies,' but smart enough that can fool itself day and night without exhausting. I had vision after vision, but after a while, I began to consider what it means... it is significant. Are they real? Let's find out. I have some fruits of the 'garden' and Gifts I have not eaten yet, as well as thousands of delusions, and I want to share them with you as sadaqah and also start open dialogue. And if you are open about what I have to say, it will blow your mind, you will be shocked, even for those who didn't believe, you will see the dilemma and hijab (mental coverage) that is covering their eyes and mind. What scripture? I don't know about other scriptures a lot, but I was born into a family of 'Muslim' and specifically have in mind the traditionally known scripture as the 'Quran.' Let's study the 'Quran,' what do you have to lose? And open to collaboration. But it will piss off a lot of people, me, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. And just realized the danger of this topic. If I was in some kingdom, probably i would be imagining chop off but here where i am it stoning Anyway i am at end of this life no worries. It is a mystic type of knowledge, not ordinary, not a 1000 list of 'Haram or Halal' things. I am gonna drop breadcrumbs now and later I will collect or someone articulate to help us collect them wisely. There are moments where I can write well, there are moments I can't even organize my thoughts. I am not sure though if I will regret writing this at the end of the day. Why now? Why? Why scripture? I am not sure; I asked all I got was it is their right. And maybe my days are numbered, not sure if I will survive the coming month 'Ramadan.' Why the scripture (Quran)? I cannot say in a lot of words because words are not enough to define it. I was allowed to see the consistency of the scripture and concise patterns that leads to hidden You gonna find all the clues and all the foods and all the knowledge you seek in it. 'Sculptured in The Scripture (the book),' you will know what I mean by that. The scripture is the map of spiritual, like a guide from the maze, not a list of allowed or forbidden things. It doesn't limit your progress. It is the guide you looking for, all of your life but because of the stupidity of past lives, you were meant to believe otherwise. But before we start. Empty your Cup For a moment, put aside all of your traditional interpretations and understanding. Do not buy into what I say without verification. Do not digest the food and do not rush to blame or correct me. Know I am not a scholar or anything, I am just sharing my thoughts... It is for you to decide what to do with them and to organize it. If you were 'Muslim,' if you had any existential crises, I am not liable for any of it. And if you speak Arabic or come from 'Islam/Muslim' backgrounds, great, but be open-minded, my face toward you. If you get enlightened, I am not responsible for that either. And think critically by yourself. Mostly I'm gonna hint out the possible interpretation of some verses without delving into it. And because of time sensitivity and health issues, sorry for not giving satisfying insights. Know and I do not use traditionally known prophetic words (Hadith) or Tafseer books and no fairy tales. You will learn the use of Sun, moon, stars, Garden, fire, Rock, rain, waters, Milk, Honey, Seas, Desert wind, Clouds, dust, Shapered and sheep, the ant, the birds, etc. ..... I don't know why I am tempted to write this letter. it could a food (taam) and Sadaqaa. Or it could be my way of thinking out loud, or just inner chats, or just self-gratification, mental masturbation, or really wanting to do good for a bigger cause. But I don't want to create an 'ism' or schools. ____ And I ask the mods and administrators to allow this thread's existence as long as it does. Even if it does not attract" .... If you are interested, Let's study the scripture together. Show me your interest. Thank you for your time. Jzk. Rabbi zidni ilman. Why Roadmap to the City?

The basis of awakening, of living an awakened life, is leaving time. There is a moment in life, perhaps around the age of 12,13,14, that you begin to see life as a temporary process, and not as an in-depth approach. Little by little this takes on a dimension, you begin to have an idea of yourself as an entity that moves in time. This entity accumulates data every day, until it takes on a solid dimension, which overrides the deep focus and veils it. There comes a time, without realizing it, when you are outside. You do not flow with life but rather you are a few meters above classifying it. All this mental activity could be classified as an illness if it weren't for the fact that almost everyone processes this way. The causes are social interaction, language, the conceptualization of reality in order to function as a collaborative hive organism where each gear is in its place. an evolutionary work of art that creates things like spacial trips or atomic energy . A manifestation of the intelligence of the cosmos that, like all its other manifestations, is genius, art and perfection. but this is built with some foundations, some bases, that are the primordial mud of the evolutionary jungle of life, and life is absolutely ruthless, its consideration towards what it creates is the same as that of an engineer with a machine: it must work, it doesn't matter how. and once it works, then he treats the machine well, he doesn't force it to work too hard, he loves it and enjoys it, but if it is necessary to tighten, it is tightened, if parts have to be forced until they break, it is done. Well, time is a dimension in which life puts us so that we fulfill a function, but it has a problem: it is a dead, false dimension, a mental virus necessary for the software to work. This dimension, once it starts, grows in a cancerous, exponential way. In a few years since it began, humans live in a psychotic dimension, we are prisoners of the matrix, robots with permanently running software. In some cases, quite often, this software is dissonant, full of cracks, hidden areas, anger, fear, hatred, shame, lies. a real party. This same software, at a given moment becomes aware of itself and says: yes, ok, but this is unbearable shit, a disease. I am a disease. Then, the self sets itself a titanic task: getting out of itself. cross a door that really is him. If you want to cross that door, you must deactivate time, since time is your essence. Without time the self disappears, since time is its dimension. To deactivate time, the self must begin to release ballast, stop comparing, analyzing, judging, fearing. quite a challenge since the foundations of the self are solid, otherwise it would not have the irresistible drive that it has. breaking the self is breaking a work of life engineering, it is not a small thing that is done, it is a serious achievement. It is life shaping itself, and this is always through challenge. Life wants you to deactivate the self at a given moment. You are called to it, if it were not so, you would not be trying. once you achieve the complicated maneuver of opening the self, first just a moment, them more often, the self start changing completely, the software continues to exist, there is still a controller, but it knows that it is software, it goes into the background, it begins to stop progressively letting more space to the real, to reverse the process that originated it and make a change . then it seems that the self begins to be a kind of mirror. begins to reflect reality, and to find attractive the idea of merging with reality and disappearing completely.

This forum won't awaken you, especially since there are many non-awakened people pretending to know what they are talking about. If you want to awaken the fastest way to create a STATE change. You can create a state change through many different ways. Chakra music combined with intense meditation, psychedelics, long hours of solo contemplation, sensory deprivation chambers, sleep deprivation, fasting, near-death experience, and many more other methods I haven't listed and are not aware of. Nothing can replace awakening. Awakening reveals the mystical aspect of reality, it reveals you to be PURE CREATIVITY, LOVE, AND TRUTH. There is no dialog, no activity that can replace this. It's the most beautiful thing to experience, and its wasted on waiting at the end of your human life, it's better to do it now and master being able to access that state sober. THEN you can live as God in human form. Anything else is not pushing you towards God embodiment which many on these forums are going to push you towards. You cannot intellectually achieve this, again I repeat you MUST create a state change. Ignore the people on these forums who are just hear for drama. They will wear you out and confuse you if you are trying to awaken. If you want to awaken more than anything else YOU WILL. Don't let anyone tell you that you cannot, don't listen to them talk about genetics. Genetics change (look up epigenetics) and what you do CAN and WILL change your genetics. Again you MUST create a state change. Anyone else that argues this has no clue what they are talking about. Create a state change with a pure intention to awaken and enjoy the experience. Then work to make it permanent (YOU CAN) through deep meditation from that state until your body's chemistry becomes a living psychedelic. That's it!!

"I am the most awakened guy around" is like saying "I am the wettest wave on the surface of the ocean".

@Leo Gura How to deal with this part since it is very shocking and i have trouble with this? What are the next actions? I know i can imagine right now and tell myself that consciousness always stabillizes to comfort myself but how to deal with this and comfort my own heart. Also 1 more question, if you have awakened past this part and solipsism what are your next actions or what do you plan to do, does this part also bother you? At the highest level i have seen that we actually want to dumb ourselves down as a remedy against the eternal presence, and then after a while i found a quote of ma ananda and she also said that ego is just a remedy

I liked that. That's the whole point. I've awakened to awakening and have freed myself from the mumbo jumbo of it all. I just am and will always be that.

Too many back and forths. Too many contradictions. Too many different ideas and concepts. Too many ebb and flows. Too many mixing of the Absolute and the Relative which causes confusion. We speak in both terms simultaneously and it becomes a loop. We speak dually and non-dually in the same sentences. We have turned it into a Religion. We are arguing amongst ourselves based on our own belief systems, not based on Truth. What is Truth. Truth is Absolute. That which is the case. What is relatively true for you might not be true for me and we can't see from another's perspective because that is what it means to be an individual. I'm not concerned anymore about Awakening and Enlightenment. I'm going to focus on understanding how the mind works, the quantum field, quantum mechanics, the Truth about who I AM and understanding the nature of Reality. Not if I'm awake or not, not if I'm enlightened or not. Not beliefs, concepts and ideas about Reality but it's substance. The Tree of Life. Sacred Geometry. Quantum entanglement. I may not know, nor will I know everything, nor do want to. I'm not even trying to find peace and happiness and joy and running away from mental pain and suffering, because all of that will be a by-product of understanding my true nature. Curiosity. Understanding and embodying is more enlightening than trying to become what I already am. So, figuring that out and learning about that is what I'm more focused on than if shit is imaginary or not, if I'm the only consciousness or not. I am a Spiritual being and it is what I'm in love with. I'm in love with all of existence. I'm in love with Reality. I'm in love with the Universe. I'm in love with love itself for Love's sake. Not for what it can bring or give me. I've passed the stage of trying to find anything. There is nothing lost. There is nothing "out there" to be found. I wouldn't have existed otherwise. I wouldn't have gone through my experiences if it wasn't meant to be. I didn't choose to come here to forget everything just to remember anything. There is no reason for me to exist other than for existence's sake. No me, no world. Why am I trying to Awaken so I can see the Truth of what I already am. Whatever that is. Why am I trying to become Enlightened. A rose doesn't try to become a rose. It just is. I will continue to do Spirituality because I enjoy it, not for some means of becoming Awakened or Enlightened. Just like I enjoy cooking. I don't have to cook, I can go out to eat, to sustain my body, but I do it for the enjoyment of creation. To create a meal. Just because I can. For the art of creating. I watch movies because I can. To see others' creations. So, to be clear, i will still enjoy this forum, I will still post and comment. I will still engage, but only for it's sake and take from it what I chose or not. Not to go back and forth on some Spiritual mumbo jumbo and asking questions about Awakening or Enlightenment because it is futile. I will continue to read whatever books I choose, watch whatever videos and podcasts I choose, for it's own sake and to get better understandings on subjects I choose to expand on and what interests me as an individual. I will also keep in the background running, that whatever I chose to engage in, that it doesn't change who I am existentially and will not allow any belief systems, ideologies, world views or identities I've chosen to become, to make me forget that. That will be my primary focus, to acknowledge the presence already within me and to live my life from that place and to recognize that I cannot be what I can observe and that I am none of it but what is unfolding and manifesting from within that presence. Experiencing bliss and joy is also an appearance that is temporary and my true nature is also the witness of those states. Every experience and temporary feelings and emotions are also being witnessed as is the experience of becoming Awakened and or Enlightened. All of it.

Oh there is a point to awakening, but you have to experience it to understand it. I can tell you about a human, you can even live among them and understand them intellectually, but it is totally different if I MADE YOU A HUMAN. Awakening is like that, you BECOME fully the creator. Then you will absolutely know. So there is a point to it all. You can talk about the absolute, or you can awaken and BE THE ABSOLUTE. When you are in a non-awakened state you are the relative part of the Absolute.

Close your eyes, create an image in your mind, make that image move. For example picture a bird as an image, now make that bird fly. Now open your eyes, and realize that bird was just a projection of your consciousness. Now your physical body, is also a projection. Can you feel the bird you just imagined is equally as imaginary as your physical body? When you can do this, THEN you have awakened.

This is somehow sadder than any of my relatives dying. Some force of positive change died with him which is not awakened in many of us. He was up against too much. He sacrificed his personal pleasures for this life of inprisonment and torture. I don't think people underestand what it really means. Thank you, Alexei, for speaking up for all of those who didn't want to have this life, but somehow we have to continune. I feel like we, the people who tend to think more freely, are next, although it feels that it was just an isolated incident, he was not the first one and will not be the last one killed by the Kremlin. RIP, I hope you find any existential relief, thank you for the bottom of my heart.

It depends if we are speaking on a subjective level or an objective level. From a subjective perspective, or a relative point of view, if you have not fully awakened and merged Everything. Then there exist others who are not awake, to reflect back to you, what it is that you are missing. From an objective and Absolute level, as you said, all the dualities have collapsed, Everything is One. And there is no separation between self and other. There is only what Is, neither asleep or awakened. Nothing to compare, because Everything is the same. Perspective vanishes, no world.

How can there be a process to become Awakened or Enlightened if time doesn't exist. If time is an illusion, and we say we are doing things to awaken and doing Spiritual practices to awaken, aren't those futile. I'm not saying one shouldn't do practices or meditate or whatever it is that we do, but I'm just wondering how is it possible to achieve something as awakening if it isn't already the case. I understand that Reality appears in a linear fashion in order for us to make sense of it; but it is only an appearance. We also say on an existential level there is no difference between anything and it's only the mind that makes these distinctions and it's all One. Where is the existential division between someone who is awake and someone who is not. Isn't that just mind and thought. I also put enlightenment in this category as it is said they are two separate things. Leo has said in his videos that there is no difference between me and a coffee table, so how is there a real difference here in awakening versus not being awake and isn't that also an appearance as opposed to what really is the case. Creation is already finished, and what is just is. We are only drawing from this Infinite field of Infinite possibilities experiences that are aligned with our states of being, so to become awake one has to be in alignment to have that experience of being awake; but since Enlightenment is not an experience how is it possible that some are and some aren't.

@PenguinPablo The cosmic joke turns out being that "nobody knows or becomes awakened because awakening is not an action or linear event in time for a real person. Rather its the clear recognition that this important "ME" character attempting to attain some kind of mind based enlightenment experience, is completely not real. Its an illusion of self....Maya!!! 😮 That's the real freedom that's being sought after but only by an illusion! It turns out that the very notion of actually knowing something is the real illusion or Matrix. And that is even just apparent stories 🤣 ❤️

Sister Cody. He awakened from his long deep years of suffering. He transforms his experience into art, leaving a message. His style of teaching is bright and warm. I leave a post example below for you to know. https://www.instagram.com/sistercody/ www.artoflovingnow.com/product-page/the-light-still-exists-tee

Well I think when u experience your total self and see oh boy...there is no one, what a game it all was.... When the only thing that exists is Yourself....and no one to see,hear, touch ,feel and experience.... As if they never were.... But a way to fill with void within... The void of loneliness of the total self.. To busy itself with imaginary beings ,thankfully it has ability to do so... Imagine if it didn't had imagination, nothing would exist except mind.... But that void of loneliness when u are alone locked within Yourself and this void and nowhere to go... Maybe then u realize...I AM everything... In itself consciousness contains infinite information of infinite realities like codes within and found out a way to manifest his preexisting knowledge into experience based reality.... It found a way in that void ,crazy isn't it... Do u know how one mind alone in nothingness can figure a way out to... Manifest his imagination in form out of nothing..that's crazy... I believe going to total self will awakened that knowledge too... How to make 2d hologram experienced as reality that's how this infinite experience is possible in space/time.... This knowledge of creating bubble of existence isn't in human awareness right now... Do u know then if u close your eyes.. How to consciously manifest infinite universes running on their own and causing Yourself to forget.... Within Yourself consciously.. How to create this setup... This knowledge is in total self... I think when u see u are only one alone being till eternity... U can never be with other, since no other exists till eternity alone... This fact is powerful... Or maybe when u realize life was never that serious... The element of serious makes dream reality strong to believe in... ....so what if life isn't about awakening.. Because whether u are awakened or not... U will still one day become total self it's inevitable outcome....and realize and experience who u truly are,then u don't need to ask from another,u will self realize I AM everything in your absolute state of existence... Nothing changes that fact... But still it's all handy information for understanding... So it's better to be open to any unique new knowledge understanding of reality...

And by that I mean Awakened with a capital 'A' Not a glimpse Please no spiritual narcissism or boasting I am asking sincerely

that’s one interpretation, but to me, the belief (and that’s all it is, I don’t claim to be awakened) in immortality has the opposite effect. in my life, it means that unresolved issues are going to follow me to the next life, because death isn’t an easy escape.

I will add something here since tis topic Connects Solipsism with Ontological Nihilism , even after Leo saying in his Solopsim Video the You will Realise that you are All Alone because you are All Togheter. In my Humble View it means that Solpsism is not reason to Become Nihilistic In This Line I will share the link from the WebSite Perspectiva : this one :https://systems-souls-society.com/ But talking about How our Solopsistic Society (Meaning Individualist) Is not helping Us to make the important Changes we need in Order to Keep Going as Humans. yes , even if you think or Know that this all a dream the true is that the dream can end very bad and very soon, God Create Another Dream up from its Ass, but is good if we engage in Keeping this Dream going on Because, Well, is Great isnt it ? Here is the Excerpt from this Link: https://systems-souls-society.com/the-solipsistic-society/ You can click directly in the link if the text looks interesting to you "Solipsism should not be conflated with selfishness in the pejorative sense. Solipsism deals with the problem of the self being trapped in the self by the self in a kind of perpetual self-reference. This closed loop can lead to the collective belief that only individual perception, thoughts, and experience can be known to exist and therefore to be considered real. Solipsism can be grouped into two categories, one dealing with reality directly and the other with the knowledge of reality. The first is ontological and says only the self is real where the other is epistemological and says that only the self is knowable. However subtle these distinctions are philosophically; my focus is practical: on how societal solipsism is reproduced through collective self-perpetuating beliefs and how we can approach moving beyond our predicament. A solipsistic society is therefor not a mere collection of self-centered individuals, although that is one view. Instead, it refers to collective beliefs about what is real and possible, as though everyone is wearing an epistemic straightjacket; unable to imagine how things can be known differently and changed. In what follows I don’t want to hang too much on any single definition or variant of solipsism, but I do want to argue that when conceived in a broad sense, the condition of late modernity is solipsistic in a collective sense. The unit of analysis is the social imaginary, which can be taken as our shared psychocultural home and as forming the limits and shape of our collective awareness. It also directs our attention in fixed directions. This is a valuable concept because it speaks to the roots of fundamental problems that underlie many of our collective action problems, our immunity to change,[1] which is compounded by an atrophied faculty of the imagination. The history of Western philosophy also has a long tradition of reality-denying, only taking what can be experienced as real, thereby forming cognitive horizons that make it harder for our imagination to go beyond. The widely quoted claim that it is ‘easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism’ captures the problem of societal solipsism and the constraints the system puts around our imagination well.[2] We like to think we are free, but we are also kept entranced in this dream we call reality, from which we are now being rudely awakened by the really Real, which reasserts itself as the manifestations of the Metacrisis.[iii] I propose some domains of inquiry that I believe can bring us closer to a right relationship with Reality, which is not only something concrete like nature or physical matter, but equally truths of constant flux, change and creative dynamism and outcomes of our evolutionary history we have no choice but to embody. Stuckness can only persist by denying these truths, but continuing to do so limits discovering ways forward and prevents us from moving into futures we desire or away from ones we want to avoid. The opposite of stuckness is what I call ‘collective unfolding’. If we accept that in the West, we are in the process of losing our current, late-modern social imaginary as our stable home, as it is now appearing to liquify under the reassertion of the Real and pressures of the manifold crises, then we’ll have to learn to be in right relationship with reality’s inherent change and its patterns of unfolding and decay.

Let's imagine you are awakened via psychedelics. I mean only for 'awakening' / 'god realization' It's not a topic against usage. It's a topic to speak on going beyond the usage of drugs. For people not interested in it. That's fine. Let's be practical for the interested: what's in it then, after you meet god and yourself there is no need to go further. You're not different from an alcoholic if that's for free 'pleasure' If you are into it for relative reasons it's fine. ( But it might just be addiction disguised as path by the ego ) like all weed addicts. ( "It makes me sharp" etc.. ) Here is my very counter view : you are burning your receptors/brain. ( No need to go metaphysical on me. Your 'brain' is real in a certain way ) We can't measure it and might never do but still you can still feel apparent causality. So here is my experience and why I feel I need to never do them again by myself, or at least never been looking for it. ( Lol well aight this was a joke ) So I feel like on the topic of safety. Like all 'good things' you'll have a price to pay. At the pure body level ( I surely agree it can be very good for mental and paradigm healing ) but let's talk pure physics. You can argue it's not toxic. But then Xanax and alcohol aren't either. You take Xanax for anxiety : you quit you more anxious. Take psychedelics for X : you quit and it makes you more X Maybe you don't agree but I barely believe in free heat. We got no idea what is mitigated by serotonin 2A receptor (5-HT2AR). The heart alright but how does it play on your health and vibration to deregulate it. Psychedelics aren't toys and no play and not here for any enjoyment is my point. I suspect like weed the come down is extremely delayed might even be months after your last intake. Your brain truly quit weed only 3 months after the last intake. Before this, it's the first phase. So psychedelics might also takes months to show you the real withdrawal. I suspect 6-8 months. But mental healing can have occured and you'll be in a better place. But still I'm talking pure physics here. So you shall not do psychedelics more than once a year and if you are enlightened unless you have some serious reasons like science it's not worth it to keep adding false sugar. Your 'meditation' will be stronger and everything can be done through better means. Don't get attached to the past tools evolve.