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Leo, when is the Alien Consciousness video finally coming out? Don’t leave us waiting forever. Reality can survive a little spoiler.

Leo, banning people and unmodding mods for rightfully holding you accountable and questioning your outrageous claims will not make the problem go away. You have conveniently been dodging the question that many are looking for the answer to: Where is the alien transformation video? You said that the biggest obstacle to producing the video was finding a camera that would record your face transforming into a colorful alien god. And what is the obstacle now?

Alien and Aliens are probably the best horror films.

I have reached to alien consciousness, I can think like an alien and at the same time shit like an elephant 😂

Bram Stoker's Dracula is a great horror film. Alien also - fantastic horror film. The first one is classic sci-fi horror.

[Ref] On the exact topic of Cult Psychology, I read and used all four from the Book List to write a paper on the cult dynamics of Silicon Valley in my Expos 20 class at Harvard. It is still used as a model paper for that class. And right now, he is committing the precise epistemological fallacies listed in them. I quote: Deikman: “Lacking interest and information concerning the actual statements and actions of opponents or outsiders.” (1) I have seen this play out with engagement of epistemological and intellectual criticism, specifically surrounding stances on rationality, sciences and AI [ref 1] [ref 2]. His imaginary scientists have been a gross caricature and continue to be so despite me and others giving personal, extra-personal experiences, as well as evidence. Hassan: "In totalistic cults, the ideology is internalized as ‘the truth,’ the only map of reality." (2) Stein: “It rejects any knowledge from the outside world in order to create a fictitious world within the hermetically sealed totalist system.” (3) The reactions to the Alien Intelligence pushback [ref 3] [ref 4] and the refusal to admit fundamental epistemological errors is what warranted the cult-like accusations by @UnbornTao and @zurew. @Carl-Richard gave an abundant list of the "No one has had my awakening and realizations" [ref 5] and was also one of the un-modded ones. Per the references above, the un-modding and banning are reflections of an echo chamber dynamic, especially given the rhetoric and responses. @Leo Gura The Actualized.org brand, channel and forum is yours, preach your Truth. But don't be surprised that you are losing viewership. It's not just "the algorithms".

Another straw man. Who the fuck said anything about "getting everything right " ever on this forum? It's the basic mismatch in your information/ claim hygiene that you preach but don't follow as in the many examples provided by my and other members. Teach what? How to morph into an alien? How to heal? Yeah, only you know how to do that apparently.

If you think that epistemology means you will get everything right, you are kdding yourself. That is not what epistemology ever meant. In the future I will teach such radical and advanced things that I will lose plenty of you. Because most of you are not openminded enough. But I will still teach it. I already know many of you are too closedminded to reach Alien Consciousness. I warned you guys before that you have not learned everything I have to teach. But it is easy to convince yourself that you have. No one will teach what I teach. So be careful. It will be your loss.

The day the Earth stood still. War of the Worlds. 2001: A Space Odyssey Planet of the Apes. The Omega Man. soylent green. West world. Tron. Star man. The Andromeda Strain. Logan's Run. Silent Running. the black hole Extra-Terrestrial robinson crusoe on mars Brainstorm Forbidden Planet Moon Contact Alien Star trek Daryl The explorers Blade runner Predator Total recall The running man Flight of the navigator Robocop First Men in the Moon The Time Machine Escape from New York The Thing Starship Troopers The blob Oblivion Vanilla Sky I, Robot westworld series fallout series Dune The Last Starfighter

The Alien stuff sounds like a realization that could have been had while tripping.

Leo was tripping super hard one day in 2022 and started yapping on her while tripping about how he’s now an alien and how he is canceling all other courses to teach how to have an alien awakening and said he is able to physically morph into an alien on camera.

Look, everyone wondering why Leo refuses to admit his alien transformation error, it's very simple. Most people can say "I was in a state of grandiose delusion". But Leo cannot admit this to himself, therefore he cannot admit it to you. And he never will. You will never get an admission because: "'Grandiose delusion' is the two words that, said sincerely, collapse the idealized self into the despised self in one move — and the entire architecture exists to make those two words unsayable. So he says everything around them, forever, because the one thing the expansive solution cannot do is name itself." Underneath the grandiosity is precisely the terror of being ordinary, small, self-deceived — the average human who fools himself and can't tell. "I was in grandiose delusion" doesn't just lower him to average. It drops him straight into the despised self the entire construction exists to escape. It's not a step down; it's a fall through the trapdoor the whole edifice was built to cover." - Karen Horney, The Expansive solution (Neurosis and Human Growth: The Struggle Toward Self-Realization)

Alien grass? Show us where the alien touched you. We'll meet the alien and touch base. Being social, grounded? What about being alien, elevated? A Lion can be an aLien if you wish hard enough. Wish on an alien star on an alien planet.

@Leo Gura Leo, I quoted exactly what you wrote an hour ago, yet instead of replying to me, you decided to go back and substantially edit your original reply by adding details that weren't there when I responded. You are literally rewriting your response after being challenged instead of addressing the criticism directly. At the very least, have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge the edit and respond to what I actually said. Regardless, the issue here isn't really your standards of rigor. You weren't presenting some carefully researched conclusion that later turned out to be based on weak evidence. You claimed that your awakening would contradict 5000 years of spiritual teaching and that you would morph into an Alien Intelligence on video, with full conviction. Do you understand how absurd this sounds and why people here feel the need to call you out on it?

1) Let's not reduce this to just a “hasty post.” Here is exactly what you said: You explicitly said that people would visually see you morph into an Alien Intelligence, and then added, “If I don't, then you can call out my bullshit.” That's exactly what people are doing now, isn't it? 2) Why is it that when you hold people accountable and question their claims, you're being epistemically responsible, but when someone does the same to you, they're “hung up”? You always encourage others to hold themselves accountable, yet for some reason, you refuse to do the same yourself. A post admitting that you were wrong (being delusional and grandiose, for example) would go a long way for everyone on this forum.

What is claimed or thought may not necessarily be the same as what actually happens in practice, so learn to make a distinction in that domain. For example, look at what's encouraged, what's discouraged, how people interact with each other, how they treat Leo, how "dissidents" are seen, etc. Don't stop at surface impressions and your reactions to the assertions and atmosphere. What goes on in certain interactions? Making assertions is easy. You can claim and think anything. You already do. This does not imply the claim is consistent with, or bears any resemblance to, actuality. Consider this gap. The alien recording is brought up as a clear instance where certain dynamics are made apparent. Who dares to confront the teacher's bullshit? How come many refused to keep him accountable according to standards he'd set up for himself? Instead of admitting failure, he'd rather ban and unmod a few members. Now, you have a reaction to this type of contentious expression - feel it and then separate your reaction from its underlying message. If you want to educate yourself, read @zurew's posts, a "Tier 2, epistemically responsible, big dick (former) member." Nice profile picture, by the way. Negative meanings are likely instinctively associated with the term "cult" itself. I'm not saying Leo is necessarily evil, egotistical or narcissistic, deliberately deceiving and misleading people, or even aware that he might be contributing to this situation. The critique is essentially about the tacit expectation to believe. I'm not even sure this is recognized by Leo when it happens. It may come across as "progress" or loyalty, perhaps, depending on the case. You and I likely know the theory and the "Actualized worldview," too, but let's go past the chatter and past the affectations.

@Leo Gura ^ This. I’m not denying Alien Consciousness, whatever it’s referring to (I literally don’t know) - I’m keeping an open mind. It’s the recording it on camera that folks here are hung up on.

@Leo Gura Looking forward to it. I don't wanna get too involved with the debate, but it's pretty clear from my own perspective that this is a natural evolution of your teachings and the spiritual domain in general. Thought you should know that a lot of us lurkers are all for it Leo, keep up the great work. I'm at a point in my spiritual journey where shedding the human is of utmost importance, so I welcome alien levels of mind with open arms 👾

That's different from recording alien transformation. Sign me up! I'm all ears.

There is no mistake. I will teach Alien Consciousness. Nobody has a clue what it is. You guys still think I am playing games with you.

He already addressed this issue when he brought up the idea of noise vs. signal. I don't remember when exactly. He said his communications are mostly signals, but they can contain some noise. That particular alien example was clearly noise. Everyone makes mistakes. The question is: Can we let them go?

whats the alien recording that yall are talking bout

@Leo Gura Honestly I think it’d be best if you just cleared up the air about the alien consciousness recording. „I was wrong, I don’t think now it’s possible” or „I still believe it’s possible”. Whatever. For the sake of transparency. Clarifying this would clear up confusion.

Lol exactly. The teachings are exactly meant to train one’s sovereignty of mind and against group think and cult dynamics, and give the tools to discover truth for oneself. But no, invalidate all that because Leo can display narcissistic tendencies or be deluded sometimes (like with catching alien consciousness on camera). Sure, he’s a cult leader 100%.

I'm sorry to see Zurew go, but was he ever going to be able to let this go ? Or was he just going to throw mud on the classroom walls for all eternity. Making claims about having an alien intelligence awakening doesn't mean it's a cult. (Where are these victims who blindly followed Leo on that) As I said earlier, Leo never claimed to be the perfect embodyment of all his teachings. Yet this justice panel seemed to want to hold him to some standard of perfection.