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When your love is truly unconditional, you love him whether he's Leo, a serial killer, an alien or just a thought in your mind.

In psychology, unconditional love refers to a state of mind in which the individual has the goal of increasing the welfare of another, despite any evidence of benefit for themselves. The term is also widely used in family and couples counseling manuals. Your interpretation is that unconditional love is loving somebody who transforms into something else and therefore you fail to see how someone can unconditionally love someone or something. Now instead of an alien we look at a mother and child. The child grows up and becomes a mass murderer. And as is sometimes the case the parent still loves the child - unconditional love according to your definition. If the child turns into a lizard the love doesn't apply the lizard has no attributes of the child and it is just like the child has died. (unless it's a talking lizard) Still the parents feed the lizard thinking that it might transform back to the child. Here's the better test case. The child turns out to be a psychopath and they also turn on the parents, curses them continually and threatens to kill them. Do the parents still love them? Maybe. They might think its a mental illness that can one day be healed, unconditional love at it again

@Gili Trawangan I completely agree. Yes, this is something which makes sense to me. So I'm assuming you are in agreement with the original hypothesis? @Synchronicity Got it. So when I say, "I unconditionally love Leo", I am including all Leos - alien Leos, all humans-on-planet-Earth Leos, water bottle Leos (lol) etc. In other words, any objective implication of unconditional love is, in fact, universal. So we agree objective implications are logically incorrect? Their universal alternative is the correct and only expression of unconditional love?

That’s why I said it loves all Leos It doesn’t matter if the alien is a different being than the human Leo you started with. Unconditional Love loves both

This is something I could never understand in a long time. I can see how someone can be "unconditionally loving". But I fail to see how someone can unconditionally love someone or something i.e. I don't see how unconditional love can be objective. And this boils down to a problem with identity. Let me elaborate. Consider that you, the subject, unconditionally love Leo at some timestamp T. Sometime later, assume he said something really bad to you, but you still love him because your love is unconditional. Now tomorrow, Leo uploads a video saying he was bullshitting you the entire time, that all this enlightenment stuff is nonsense - quite a radical shift in the man you thought was Leo, but you still love him. The day after, you find out that he is a raging psychopath serial killer, but you still love him, because it's unconditional. Now I will take the liberty to get a little crazier, it's a thought experiment after-all. Let's assume Leo is in-fact a shape-shifting alien, and he changes his body into that of an alien, completely unrecognizable. At this stage, both Leo's mind and body has changed completely from what it was at time T, wherein you were 'unconditionally' loving towards him. In other words, every identifying characteristic of the entity 'Leo' has completely changed. But your love is unconditional, so your are still loving towards this alien entity ... okay. Now tell me, is this entity even Leo anymore? No it's not. Leo's existence in the universe was always a conditional reality. That is, if{condition 1} AND if{condition 2} AND if{condition 3} are true, THEN "Leo Gura". It doesn't make sense to "unconditionally" do something to a conditional object. So unconditionally loving someone or something fails at the logical level. Either this, or I'm missing something super obvious.

Yeah, I think that the collective consciousness has built some rules which don't really apply to reality and limit our true potential. From my perspective, the mind is capable of infinite imagination and has unlimited power that can defy the laws of nature. You don't have to be an alien or a 4D creature to access this potential. Unfortunately, those who can break free from the matrix are very few or very lucky but together we can transcend our human condition and rewire this giant brain that we call reality ?

Tonight I dreamed of a UFO pretty much similar to the one on the top of this image, (just ignore the alien on the left side which is unrelatable with my dream), I was outside of my house yard, and suddenly I see a moving oval black shadow moving pretty fast and I recognized it as a UFO immediately, and then it exposed itself in his purest oval form with a very strong white light on the middle, and a dark blue disc surrounding, kinda like saturn, but in a plate, and it was kinda dancing and showing off all of his beauty to me. And then I remember that I was somehow mesmerized in beauty and shock, and got inside of my house and close the door, when then I feel something in my mouth, like an insect buzzing, I spit it, It's the UFO again in my mouth! It resized to the point of being capable of going inside me, then I shut the door again, and I never saw it anymore after that. When I remember the dream now, I feel a very positive energy regarding this encounter, makes me feel calm when I remember it and then looking at this image, It's like falling in love for something totally new. It's not the first time I dream about Ufo's on my yard, once I dreamed of a Triangular shaped Ufo, other time it was a very weird one that look liked a Dorito's potato and really small, or sometimes is just a very weird object that just fly's around, and always makes me feel like an Outsider. And all those times, I am trying to reach my phone or something else to show, but then I get immersed in the experience and none of that social exposure really matters. Makes me kinda tolerant to those who claim to see Ufos but lack the proofs... Nonetheless, I don't even make any assembleses with aliens and spacecrafts, the spacecraft is the Alien by it's own right, the machine is the living being, it's not like even questionable "who's driving", but rather, "This machine is alive".

This alien interviewed in 1964 https://youtu.be/ForpISHYLIg

Sadhguru is definitely just an enligthenenment marketer. His mission is just to make this posibility known to everybody and what better way than by preaching hatha yoga? He even said it. He planned his way before introducing himself into the world. He has studied many past leaders such as Jesus, ghandi and osho and skipped many of their mistakes in order to succeed. And we can clearly see he is being very succesful. The fact that he uses such clothes, long beard, fame and money are crucial aspects for lower conscious minds paying attention to him. Thats how attraction works. And I think he is going to try becoming India president at some point. Thats why he does all he does and is into politics. I had a random dream of him becoming the president which I hope may come true if he aspires for it. Theres no way to really judge his levels of conciousness than by having an interview with him. I think he is one of the most awoken right now. I won't be surprised to know he has psychic abilities, works with entities of higher dimensions or channels or might have even contacted an alien. The fact that Ralston students are morons, leaves no exceptions for all of us in here. But thats okay, I know what you mean. And, have you known of anyone that has done 5meo or the other psychedelic you said is more powerful, after already being liberated? I think thats the most accurate way to explore conciousness and im excited to try that aswell. @Leo Gura

Hi guys, First time posting here. Just want to share some of the more challenging experiences that come up through using psychedelics. After my 10th ceremony with Ayahuasca I was carried out of the Peruvian jungle on a stretcher to a hospital in Inquitos. From my perspective I was discovering/experiencing the Infinite Self but the facilitators and doctors were concerned enough by my behavior to prescribe me anti-psychotic medication. I took it for a few days then made my way back to my home country. A few months later I was smoking weed with my fiancé in Germany which triggered a similar awakening. From my perspective I had woken up into buddha/God consciousness but my girlfriend was concerned by my strange behavior and called an ambulance. At the hospital it seemed everyone I met was God or some kind of spiritual guide and I was meant to be there as some kind of lesson. I was sectioned for a month in a foreign country and given anti-psychotic medication. After a month I was allowed to leave and return home. Back home I was struggling with extremely stressful family and relationship issues. I stopped taking my medication and as my relationship began to fall apart I had a complete emotional breakdown and my experience of reality became very unusual to say the least. (Believing I had to complete spiritual trials/contact with alien intelligence) My parents eventually called an ambulance And once again I was sent to a psychiatric ward for a month and medicated. I thought I was being driven to the Hospital by Eve and Buddha. These events had a devastating effect on my family and myself. My parents found out I had smoked weed and insisted I brake off all contact with my fiance. I was crying to the point of screaming at the pain of the loss. I’ve never experienced anything so painful. I still live with the pain of that loss and the resulting loneliness. My doctor tells me I will have to take a relatively low dose of anti-psychotic medication for at least two years. I have suicidal thoughts almost every day. I meditate each day and arrive at the Bliss, Joy & Peace of awareness. Its a strange contrast to live with each day. One moment, perfectly content, another moment looking for a final way out. One day I was out walking, fully aware that this is Nirvana. Another day on my knees, screaming and crying. I have weekly therapy sessions now and talking through everything that has happened with someone trained to listen is a huge help. A painful lesson I learned was how selfish I had been to not fully consider all the ways my use of psychedelics could effect my loved ones. Fortunately we have been able to work at repairing the damage that was caused but it takes a long time to recover. I really don’t know if sharing this will be of help to anyone. I have both benefited greatly and suffered greatly from the effect of these powerful substances (ayahuasca, mushrooms, weed, lsd) and I’m not here to tell anyone what choice to make. I didn’t know what unconditional love was until my first ayahuasca experience and I never knew how deeply I could love until I felt the full pain of loss. One thing to be aware of is the context in which one can have these awakening experiences. The consequences of your resulting actions will depend on the country you happen to be in and the people you are surrounded by at the time. I lost my physical freedom for a period of time. I have no way of knowing if I was lucky or unlucky to have been taken to hospital and medicated. Perhaps it is pointless to imagine what could have happened in a different setting. It seems we each have painful periods in our journeys. Part of me hopes by sharing this story I can somehow help someone else avoid such pain. I don’t know if that’s possible but I know I have benefited from hearing the accounts of others

More random insights: - Leo's simple rule for acing life -- always doing the most emotionally difficult thing in any given situation -- is only partially true. Like all dualities, difficult-easy is ultimately one and the same thing: Love. The insight to be gained here is to see that everytime a person does something 'emotionally easy', like ordering a pizza or watching Netflix, they do it because they are not 'whole' inside. They play PC-games, have sex, watch porn, eat junk-food, stay on social media on their phone, watch cat-videos, because they can sense they are not whole, and that 'sensing of not-wholeness' does NOT feel nice! And when they then do these 'easy activities' -- often unhealthy physically and mentally -- they momentarily forget that unpleasent sensation and get lost in what they are doing (watching cat videoes for example). They temporaiily forget themselves. It's symptomp-relief. Like giving a depressive person SSRi. It works, but not really. It doesn't *solve* the actual root issue of not feeling 'w-h-o-l-e'. Which is funny, cos' then you see it is God forgetting -> human forgetting -> lost in the moment of doing the easy activity -> relief/temporarily in some kind of God-consciousness (no worries) -> as soon as the activity stops (you realize you have to make dinner to yourself and get some sleep, so you close the YouTube-app on your phone) you get back to egoic consciousness of not feeling whole (but instead feeling lost and separate as this "poor little me"-body-mind-person). When you finally become 100% whole -- like I have become -- you can still do all kinds of "easy" "unhealthy" activites but you do it out of your own free will and not out of not feeling whole, cos you already feel whole! It's like a ice cream cone. Most people are cones with not enough ice inside the cone. They are not whole (i.e. they don't know they are God, i.e. they have not enough Self-Love in their body-mind-vessel). Therefore they do all kinds of activities to temporarily fill up the cone with icecream. But the ice melts again because it's warm outside. And you don't realize that the warmth around you is yourself. I.e. it is yourself melting your icecream away. hahahaha . Anyway when you finally become whole/enlightened it's like you are a ice cream cone filled up with ice that cannot melt anymore. You are harmony itself. Basically my point is, when you see your God, you also see that the "easy thing to do" and the "hard thing to do" are one and the same thing. hahaha <3 It's one. You've always done the right thing, cos you've been God all the time, and God never makes mistakes, only on purpose, but then it's not a mistake per defintion. xDDDDDDDDDD - I think many people, when they hear the words "It's all me, it's all my doing. I'm God and everything is God. When my mom knocks on my door it's myself knocking on my own door" they sort of believe that I mean this only in some symbolic sense, and that I truly still differentiate between "myself" and "my mother" (or any other stranger who might knock on my door for some reason). But listen up: No I don't. Haha. The most true thing to say with our language is to say that my mom knocking on my door is myself knocking my own door. I am my mother. I am everyone. I am God. - Language is a funny thing. Language is a technology. We have created languages in the West where we have nouns and verbs. Nouns do verbs. Things "do". But in actuality this is just a game we're playing. A language game. There are no things in reality. There is only patterns. The music. Reality/God can best be described as an infinitely complex endless musical happening. There are truly no actual "things" in the world. Only doings. Only dance/music/patterns/vibrations. On/off , on /off, on/off. Look at a river or a candle burning. That river or that candle can teach you everything about reality if you study it deeply enough. Cos you can easily see in a river that the river is not a thing. There is no river! Just flow. Same goes for the candle burning in the wind. - picture yourself setting in your living room and 2 meters south from is a chair with your friend sitting on it. You will be tempted to say "I am here and 2 meters from me is my friend, there". But may I ask, what about the 2 meters of space between 'you' and 'friend' ??? See, most people -- cos they are surviving machines -- only focuses on what is essential to their own survival, biological and socially. They filter everything else out. For example space. Literal space. For most people space doesn't exist. It's not a thing. It's "nothingness". It's non-being. Which is just a plain stupid line of thinking, if you think about it Because these 2 meters of space between 'you' and 'your friend' is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL in order for you to even have a concept of yourself and 'friend'. Without the space between yourself and your friend there wouldn't be any friend sitting over there. The space is essential. So the duality, space--things, must also collapse. Space and things are One. You can't have one without the other! Just like foreground and background! Like the front of a a bike and the back of a plain regular bike. if you cut the bike in half and say "here is the front of the bike" and "here is the back of the bike", you are right. But where is the bike now? It's gone. Because you need the front and the back together to get the bike. Also realize to say "this is the front of the bike" and "this is the back of the bike" is only possible because you already have a concept of what an actual bike is. If you went to an alien and said "here is the front of the bike" and "here is the back of the bike" he would look at you and ask "what the fuck is a bike?". In EXACTLY the same way you need space and things TOGETHER, ALWAYS, in order to know what space and things is. "Space" and "things" arise simultaneously. You can't have one without the other. It's all one! The same infinite complex musical pattern/happening! Love! The Tao! You see, just by using common sense I have now shown you that 'you' and 'other' are the same Oneness/Self. You and your friend sitting 2 meters away from you are identical, one, the same. No difference. The Self imagining itself to be separate beings. That's all there is happening. Doing it out of Love to Itself. You can't have one without the other. This goes for everything. Light, darkness, life, death. Yet many people consciously or unconsciously believe that it is possible to have one without the other. They believe it is: - possible to have things without space - possible to have space without things - possible to have 'self' without 'other' - possible to have 'other' without 'self' - possible to have 'life' without 'death' - possible to have 'death' without 'life' Also look at the problem of free will and the problem of personality. An ordinary person will say it was his doing if he hammers a nail into his wall. "I hammered the nail into my wall". If the next day a lightning strikes down into his house and puts in on fire, he will say "There was a thunderstorm today that stroke a lightning right down and burned my house to the ground. Poor fucking me! I hope my insurance will pay" . A truy awake person would say: "I consciously hammered this nail into this wall yesterday and today I somehow managed to unconsciously put my house on fire by making a lightning strike down on it from the thunderstorm". hehe. You see, the differentiation between what you call "your own conscious voluntary will" and "something that happens to me" is actually pretty arbitrary. This duality must also collapse. It's all your doing. Or it is not your doing at all. Haha In another sense it's not arbitrary. It's linked to survival. You make the distinction between 'your own doing' and 'what happens to me' because it makes you exist as a person. And you need to survive, you are programmed to survive. That's your ego. Your ego = believing you are a 'poor little me' somehow stuck in a hostile environment. This duality of free will vs not-free-will is what in fact creates your sense of personality/false self. You see, if everything was your own free will, you wouldn't exist as a person anymore, but only as God/Love. This is what happens momentarily during peak mystical experiences / psychedelic peak experiences. And this is also what happens when you die. You become Infinite Freedom, infinite Love, God, Infinite Wholeness, Oneness. And if everything wasn't your free will at all, then you wouldn't exist as a person anymore, but only as Nothingness. This is where "you were" before you were born. Or at least before you imagined yourself as a "human poor little me" (happens probably around age ~2, cos this is where children start to have self-image of themselves as existing independently of the outside world, haha). Nothingness = God = Love <3 <3 <3

Last night I dreamed that a grey alien dreamed all my life and when I zoomed on its head, I woke up. It scared the shit out of me because for a moment I wondered what if I'm that grey alien dreaming about being a stupid human?

@Serotoninluv Can a person with a severe mental disorder, in such a state of consciousness unable to voice his/her thought to another, be able to vote for a politician? Can a person in a vegetable state (coma), vote? Can a person vote under a life and death situation? If a person has given a vote, but under duress to do so(blackmailed, threatened to vote, e.c.t) be considered a vote? To the OP, when I addressed the could've, I meant it in such extreme circumstances that the person cannot vote, absolutely cannot vote without risk of life. While we're talking about politics, we also have animal rights issues. Do they have a right to vote? What about the A.I program that can speak, that was given American citizenship? Regarding would've, a choosing, that is interesting, because if you don't want to vote, can you don't want to vote? In a dictatorship? A tribe? An alien planet? The astral realms? And I'm interested in the OP's motivations for this thread.

I have been contemplating what existence is and remember reading Bishop Berkeley’s philosophy on idealism. His basic philosophy is that what existence means is that something is perceived. Without an object being perceived, how can it exist? my inquiry goes like this: What is the universe without life? Isn’t the point of creating life is so that the Universe can experience and become aware of itself? If there were no subjects in existence, then how could anything be known to exist? Before I was born, was there any sense of a Big Bang or a planet with human history and life? I find that the idea of the Holocaust, Big Bang, planet Earth all hinges upon subjectivity or life to exist. But more than that, it hinges on my perceptions and the idea of me to exist right? If I did not exist, what would the Universe be like? Would it exist at all? The world I am looking out at now seems like it is my own private universe that is limited by the perceptions of being human. If I was to compare an alien with a different brain, a human being, a bat, and an ant, all of there Universes seem to be vastly different. So does an object depend on me to exist? Is the Universe depended on the mind or independent. If it is independent, then what could we say exists? Can we say that the sun existed before us? Well it seems to me that we define the sun based off of our human perceptions of the sun. If the sun existed before I was born, could I assume that it would be just like how I perceive it now before I was born? In the same way, what is anything without a perceived? Can I assume that what I perceive now is exactly how the world is before I was born? I don’t think so because my perceptions are just a piece of the puzzle. It seems to me that my existence is like a piece to the puzzle, but yet, it also seems like the complete puzzle at the same time. The only thing I know is that which is based in my perception right? I mean I cannot know what the experience of a bat is like no matter how much I think about it. I can only know what’s in my direct experience. Other perspectives are what I am imagining based on my experiences. In fact, isn’t imagination and rationality dependent on the senses? If I cannot experience the world, how can I imagine it and rationalize it? So. This is my inquiry. It is probably full of shit, but I think Berkeley maybe on to something about Esse est percipi. It seems like the Big Bang never existed because it was not perceived. Though, I do struggle with the problem that there are many things that I do NOT perceive that seem to exist. For example, I could get sniper or hit by a car without perceiving it. Does the car or murderer exist? This is my problem with Esse est percipi, but it also seems that the world I perceive is the only world that exists at least to my perspective. It also seems that there is more to reality than what I perceive, but any notion of a different perception is something I am imagining right now? What do you all think? I am also pretty new to this work. I would love to hear your suggestions and perspectives.

Go read some conspiracy theories. Perhaps the most outragous things you can ever come across. Otherwise, some of the things I can recommend to you personally: We live in a deterministic multiverse, where every single thing that can happen will happen. Or we live in a computer simulation, created by an alien student that got F on his project. Or any creationist theory out there different from the Big Bang. Past lives/ghosts/psychic abilities are real. Or anything that modern science deems spiritual BS. You don't know how to properly breathe, shit, have sex. Or anything that a person regularly does. Capitalism is a non-sustainable economic model. Democracy is the best voting system, cos we don't have a better one. Or any pollitical ideology that people live in today. Green energy is not for mass usage. Nuclear power is the future. Go watch documentaries. They cover literally everything. There's VICE, you can watch it in youtube. They cover a lot of outrageous stuff. Like boys practicing sex on donkeys, civil war in third world countries, strange addictions like eating sand, loving balloons, having a (financial) dominatrix, etc, drug dealers and their operations, livestyles of rich people. I've seen some fucked-up shit. If this doesn't do the trick, hardly anything can.

4 years ago, back when I was addicted to weed, I went for a week without smoking. The result was the most intense dream I've ever had. I still remember everything to this day: I was in a space ship with three other friends, circling a dark planet with earth-like conditions. Everything was going fine, but suddenly we experienced technical problems. We had no idea what to do as we slowly breached the atmosphere while the ship was shaking violently and speeding up. As we were hurdling towards the surface while engulfed in a ball of fire, struggling to make a controlled landing and thinking we were all going to die, we somehow survived the crash. Now, for what felt like at least 300 years of being alive, we were stuck in a Hunger Games type of situation where we had to fight to survive by creating tools, hunting animals and building better and better shelter on this completely alien and night-ridden planet. After a while, our tools became very advanced, and we discovered new types of technology, effectively creating a new civilization with divine standards of living. As this new world was flourishing and I had time to relax, I decided to sit down and just marvel at the beauty of it all, and then I was struck by this incredible insight: Everything that had happened up to that point was just one part of an infinite series of simulated realities made by aliens for the purpose of creating new types of technology, by essentially exploiting the creative potential of the human mind. As this all dawned on me, I woke up in my bed (still inside the dream), and I started scribbling down notes about what happened, even drawing the insides of the space ship that had crashed. Then I actually woke up for real, and all I could say was: "....What... the... fuck...." It was so intense that I actually struggled to accept that my waking life was my real life for a moment. I've never tried Salvia, but the feeling after waking up certainly reminded me of those types of descriptions (of having lived an entire lifetime in an alternate reality). I just wanted to write this down somewhere after all this time

(OBEs: Out of Body Experiences include: LDs: Lucid Dreams, APs: Astral Projections and STs: Soul Travels) I bet I've listed some you haven't heard of: Psychedelics: You can materialize and take 5-Me0-DMT in lucid dreams and become enlightened or take sth like N,N DMT and have a fun trip. Meet ups: If you are advanced, you can go into other people's dreams or meet other travelers in dreams, APs and STs It is possible to induce full OBEs in less than 10 seconds. If you are able to go into the hypnotic Esdaile State and anchor it, you can enter it in a few seconds, and if you know what you're doing, you can relatively easiliy induce OBEs from there. For example Marco Lorenz can do that. It is possible to pull someone out of their physical body while they are sleeping. Marco Lorenz and Jonathan Dilas used to this with the participans of their seminars (I believe Jonathan is still doing it). During the night they would pull them out of their physical bodies, then astral travel together, and on the next morning share their experience and notice a huge overlap. You can talk with your guiding spirits, real aliens, deceased people, spirits,... Splitting your consciousness: You can split your consciousness in LDs and APs (and probably STs as well), thus be able to inhabit many independent bodies having independent experiences at once. This allows things like inhabiting a male and female body and then having sex with yourself. And most importantly, it allows you to experience far more in the same time. If you have an OBE for 5 minutes and inhabit 5 bodies, you experience 25 minutes Time Dilation: - In LDs: You can deliberately dilate time in dreams and thus experience for example 1 hour of dream-time in 5 minutes of Earth-time. It is possible but very difficult. - In APs: Time is relative. You can for example project to a place where 1h Earth-time equals 5min or 5h. For example Marco Lorenz once projected to a paralel reality and stayed there for 6 months while only 8 hours passed in Earth-time. (video is in german) Here I wrote in more detail about splitting consciousness and time dilation: OBEs during the whole night. Usually when someone has an OBE it is during the day or when you are in REM sleep. So you usually have alpha or theta brain waves. It is generally believed that you can't have OBEs during SWS (Slow Wave Sleep / deep sleep, when you have delta brain waves, 0.5-4hz). I'm not 100% sure yet but I believe OBEs are also possible during SWS, here are my reasons: I have heard several people say/write that it is possible and that they have done it Tibetan monks are able to stay aware during the whole night, including SWS. They (including the Dalai Lama) are aware of Awareness, thus a nondual state. So if they can be aware of Awareness then it should also be able to project onto a plane with a body. Soul Travles (STs) are said to happen when your brainwaves are in 0-0.5hz, that is even lower than what happens during deep sleep. So it's not only that it seems that OBEs are possible during low brainwaves, but that certain OBEs, STs are only possible with very low brainwaves. That means you should be able to project the whole night, 8 hours each day, that makes 29 200 hours after 10 years. 99.999% of people waste that time. Extra Time: If we combine the last 3 points: Splitting consciousness + time dilation + OBEs during the whole night we get an incredible amount of time which can be used for all sorts of things. Soul Travel: I don't know much about it but it is said to be far more epic than astral travel You can explore our actual physical universe and the past. This for example allows you to check in your direct experience which conspiracy theories are true and which are false. But you would need to be extremely careful, because it is very easy to see something which is not actually there but created or distorted by you. So you would need to be very advanced and do a lot of cross referencing of what other advanced OBEers report. Future. You can view probable future scenarios of earth. And you can see how different timelines of your life would develop depending on what choices you make. So for example you can preview the most likely scenario of what will happen in a week or in 10 years if you now choose job A versus job B. Explore paralell Realities Explore all of Creation. You are God so you should be able to explore all of Creation, be it past present or future. Escape the Matrix: All advanced OBEers I studied say similiar things about that topic. Their investigations made them come to the conclusion that we live in a kinda simulation, a matrix. The Matrix includes many astral planes, so after death, you are still within the Matrix. First you go through a tunnel and a white light, then you meet deceased people and some Guides, then after a while you get an amnesia shot and then are sent back to earth. That's the reincarnation cycle. Aliens created the matrix so that souls can have a certain experience, like being human. (There are obviously many many more Matrixes). All advanved OBE practioners I looked into (John Kreiter, Don Juan, Carlos Castenada, David McCready, Jonathan Dilas, Marco Lorenz,...) agree that this is the case, even scientists and people like Elon Musk believe we live in a simulation. Now, the matrix was actually a good thing because it allows souls to have a particular experience, but many researchers believe (including the OBEers John Kreiter, Don Juan, Carlos Castenada and Jonathan Dilas) that it was hijacked by malevolent aliens a couple of thousand years ago. If you know what they have planned for the upcoming years, it might be worth considering to leave the matrix. There are several possibilites: Don't fall for the Light Trap. Instead of going into the light after death, you search for a hole (which looks black) in the artifically set up grid and escape through it. OBEing allows you to verify for yourself whether this is true and it will probably be easier to escape if you are an OBEer, but it is definitely not necessary You create a double body while still alive and make it more and more solid (through having OBEs with it) till you can transfer your whole consciousness to it and then just leave your physical body behind for good and then try to escape the Matrix. Read John Kreiters books: The magnum opus and the way of the projectionist. Dissociation. Jonathan Dilas talks about that as another option. (you can google-translate his blog: Matrixblogger.de) Become enlightened. Religions tell us that you break the reincarnation cycle by becoming enlightened. It is believed that the soul will continue experiencing, it will upgrade to a different plane. The question is whether this plane is within or outside the matrix. Acashic Records. You will have access to the acashic records, thus to all knowledge become enlightened. Tibetan monks use dream yoga (LDs) to become enlightened Inhabit and control another real body. You can temporarily go inside someone else's body and live in it, as if it were your own. This is definitely possible. This usually happens in form of an agreement. 2 beings temporarily exchange their bodies so that they can explore the world of the other being. For example if an alien from another universe wants to explore earth, it can astral project to earth, but it can do more things with a physical body than with an astral body. If it happens involuntarily then this could be considered demonic possesion (if someone is demonically possessed they usually still have some control though) Download skills. Leo said that when you are super conscious, you would be able to just download skills. I believe you don't even need to be super conscious, it's enough to be an advanced OBEer. Do magick during OBEs which will affect your day-life and physical reality. Healing: By asking your subconscious, or aliens or guiding spirits, you are able to figure out the root cause of a disease and then tackle it (in case it has a psychological root) Have long whole-body orgasms And then we have of course the more well-known benefits: Personal Development: In dreams you are directly in contact with your subconscious. So this is obviously very valuable for any personal development work Fun Practice any skill Practice the Law of Attraction and make it more effective ... I believe OBEs are the key to mastering all of life. And the key to OBEs is deep hypnosis like the Esdaile State. I will soon make a post about that.

@Arzola yeah feel it man. listen to an emotional soundtrack and try to feel love. Try to dive deeply into it. It is something unique, something alien. Just feel it without resistance.

@ZenAlex I have only watched a handful of her videos. I thought she was weird, but didn't bother articulating it as well as you did. Doesn't she claim to be an alien?

Hi everyone! I’m just going to get straight to the point. I also just want to mention that I would love some input specially from men who’s woken the Kundalini since me and my boyfriend has but is of course not a must. Long story short: me and my boyfriend have been going really deep into self development since this winter, he woke his Kundalini last year in spring and I woke mine last year in august. It’s been a sick journey for both of us and of course together as well, we’ve been put through some really tough challenges these last couple of months and we are finally getting back on track from a long period of confusion. Not going to go into so many details for now but the both of us have been really confused about consciousness, duality, non-duality, the human species, purpose, reaching deep levels of awareness being aware of awareness etc. It kind of put us in a tough position being able to connect on a physical level which started to effect other levels connections in the end. It was just to alien sometimes, especially for him. The major thing that was getting in the way was (and still is) my boyfriend “inability” to have sex for a longer period of time. To describe it better, the sensitivity in my man’s down area is so high that he’s having trouble lasting during sex. It made him avoid having sex in the beginning but we are slowly getting there. This has not been a issue before, we’ve been able to have sex for at least an hour or even several hours but now it can last from 2-3 minutes to 20 minutes maximum (foreplay included). It’s getting better since he could only last 5 minutes maximum (also foreplay included) in the beginning when all of this started. He says that since he was able to move his energy all the way up to his head (the crown chakra) this began but not also just the sex, he feels an increased sensitivity in all of his areas in life, psychically and mentally. He described it once as feeling like having sex again for the first time due to how it feels, which I notice makes him feel insecure and what to do in bed. I just want to help him feel like the sexy beast he is, but he comes even more quickly when I take things in charge for example. My question for you conscious men, have your sex life changed since starting doing conscious work and self development? Have you had similar experiences? Any tips/ideas of what he/me/we can do? I don’t know if this is crucial information but around the top area of the penis (the glanse area) is where the sensitivity has increased at most for him. Thanks in advance!

@Nahm I can't thank you enough for guiding me on my past experience. Your words were wise and direct, everything you said was on point, except one thing. I realized that i was running away from the very lesson that i should have faced from the very beginning in order to move on. As much as i want to deny it and believe something else, it is simply not possible. The truth remains always. I am aware that i am framing this negatively, I have not fully transcended my ego, and so i am passing through a mixed emotional phase because i am not currently as aware as i was when i had my initial experience. Reflecting back, I now remember holding my phone, very present and in complete shock of what NOW is. Absolutely and completely shocked on how i was lying to myself for 20 years now. And how others are lying to themselves. I remember pulling out my phone, thinking to myself what the actual f*** am i holding, clicking on one of Leo's videos, aware of those alien hands holding this so called "phone", aware of those thoughts, those words that at the moment seemed like they were trying to deny the truth of what now is out of complete fear, but of course couldn't. my ego could not falsify something that is not. I was too aware at that point. I just KNEW that whatever this is, it is completely alone. I noticed that the trap i was falling into was denying that i was alone. Instead of accepting it, embracing it as it is. how it always was, always will be. Be aware that when you die, you will die alone. no-one will be there, not Nahm, not Leo, not echart Tolle, Not OSHO, not your mom, not even your own self. You will die ALL ONE. Thanks again

Well a “they” definitely interfered with my brother and I. So, i don’t need any secret information to be disclosed to me, being a first hand Witness. You seem rather attached to figures and markers of apparent authority, as if your exposure to such people and ranks has given you Illumination in this topic ... a definitive understanding of what is the case. Sure you can speak to the assistant coach, build a solid relationship with him, get some insights into what is being discussed at the management level. But, that means nothing in terms of truly knowing what the owner is planning. As before, it is possible to have “access” to technology, but yet have no idea how to use it to its full potential. Perhaps even, the “alien” technology we may have “access” to, has anti-destructive fail-safes inbuilt. Inhibiting any potential for such uses.... Can respect your opinions, but You seem relatively eager to jet off and avoid thinking outside the box here. Perhaps your positions of belief about this topic aren’t as solid as you make them appear... UFOs definitely exist. The question of wether “earthlings” have access to such things, is one that, I don’t feel anyone here has the liberty to suggest having a definitive answer to.

OK, here is the general problem I have with this thread. First, I will preface this by agreeing with @ajasatya I will also say I can't say everything I know; I had to sign an NDA with my employer and I obviously don't have access to all programs (but more than I'd say 99% of you here.) Second, I know people who have worked in the NSA/CIA/FBI/etc. I know people who have interned at NASA. I even know someone who has worked in Area 51. The defense industry is kind of small, so it's surprisingly easy to run into people like that. Judging by the "research" you have given (anecdotal evidence), my research is about as valid as yours, even if you disagree with it. In terms of spiral dynamics, the defense industry is very blue-orange and is primarily focused on developing technologies to neutralize the enemy. If we had access to alien technologies, we would be all over that shit, and we would use it to wipe out Iran or whoever our customer doesn't like that day. We're just not there. I actually think it's better that we aren't. We as a species can't handle that kind of power, and we'd probably be in a nuclear winter now if we had access to alien-level technology. On the research note, TV shows and YouTube videos are not what I would consider valid "research" either. I mean, that kind of insults what I had to do to get my graduate degree, or what people have done to get PhDs. Now, just in case you didn't think I tried, I did a two-week trial of Gaia, and I was really hoping to like it. I found it very uninformed and misleading. I really think it's irresponsible for a streaming service to pedal the "truths" Gaia provides when a little critical and systematic thinking can poke holes in arguments, even if a watcher don't have a strong science background. Suffice it to say that I was very disappointed. I think Gaia should stick to Yoga, but these programs have an audience, so oh well. A bit about me: I took the sdtest.us and tested in the green/yellow/turquoise range. I watched the actualized.org videos and felt totally attacked when I watched the yellow video so I guess that's where I primarily am. I am totally open to alien lifeforms. Judging by what I have seen and heard, I think they have decided to take a position of "no interference" with life on Earth. My opinion is that Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry called it correctly on that one. Another person who thought that was was Bill Watterson. He created an iconic comic strip called Calvin and Hobbes, and a famous strip stated that the best evidence there is intelligent life elsewhere is that it's nowhere to be found on Earth. Given current events, I rather would be on another planet as well. I don't think the aliens would want a dumb human, though. Back to the science: I have actually attended conferences about quantum mechanics and spoken to actual researchers about quantum computing. I am so interested in this subject that I want to get a Ph.D. in quantum communications. I have set a goal to start my program in a few years (which makes me wonder why am I wasting time in this thread *sigh*.) The first thing any of these researchers will tell is you is that Star Trek teleportation is impossible. The type of teleportation that actually *is* possible is photon-related, which excites me to no end, but most people would probably find that topic fairly boring, and it involves a lot of advanced math. TL; DR: The defense industry doesn't have access to alien technology as we would have wiped out Earth by now. I believe this because I work in the industry. Save your money on Gaia and buy a book about critical thinking skills instead. Yellow is a lonely, unpopular color . Aliens probably want to leave Earth the hell alone. Teleportation is for photons. This is my last post in this thread.

I was going to contemplate relating to people and I looked up the word relate to help get me started: To identify with... My mind went immediately to this reoccurring feeling of alienness I've carried with me as long as I've been depressed. I've identified 4 points of its foundation. Fatness: kids can be cruel to a kid. Gayness: straight Society can be cruel to a kid. Blackness: White Society can be cruel to a kid. And probably most devastating to me was cut / uncut status. Seeing nothing but cut dicks in porn and looking down as an impressionable youngster not knowing what the fuck that thing was. Whatever it was, it wasn't what all the other boys had. For six months, a year or more , I don't even know, I had no idea there was something under the hood. It took a somewhat random doctor's appointment to reveal to me even though I had been playing with it regularly , I had been neglecting a part of it I had no idea existed. I will spare your imaginations from painting an image, but when I saw it for the first time , I remember thinking: what the fuck is that? So I might have a little trauma surrounding my genital area. I think these four points make up a big reason I've always felt alone in every crowd. I can't relate to people because I'm an alien in human skin... or so says the program running in the background. I've definitely tried my damnedest to socialize and pick up guys and there have been many times where I was successful, but there was always that line that could never be crossed. Stripper rules: I can touch you but don't you fucking touch me. Just receive this pleasure and we can both walk away happy. God! I really didn't want to have to deal with this shit. I was just going to get rich and pay somebody to pretend to like me. It would have been grand.

I’m gonna put this in the self actualisation section cause it said right next to the main title “philosophy”, which I thought suited better than the meditation section. Anyway this is gonna just be some rambling train of thought type stuff, but if anyone could help answer some of my questions that would be greatly appreciated. So I was listening to some Mckenna, and stumbled upon this clip above on YouTube, and I thought it was really interesting. And I thought it ties in with dimensions kinda, let me explain and it’ll make sense, here’s the post on dimensions In the clip Terence talks about a divide between those who understand that we’re really just chimps with “brains full of mush”that couldn’t possible claim to know the inner workings of the universe and those who still believe in “truth” and “objective reality” and that as humans we can still, despite our condition, truly understand the nature of reality, if there is such a thing. What I really liked in this clip was the termite analogy, which is - what would you think if you met a termite who stated that it was his or her goal to achieve a perfect modelling of the Cosmos? Legitimately curious what you think person reading this. I’m sure from our human perspectives we would see, as Terence says, that it’s quite a comic undertaking. Yet that is the exact undertaking all of us bear upon our shoulders and beat ourselves with, when we fall short of an most liekly impossible entirely abstract ideal that no one in the history of humanity has ever achieved (I suspect). Although some of us claim to have, though I doubt it. Even people like Leo who claim to have worked all this shit out by dosing themselves, similar to Terence, with high powered entheogens, probably haven’t. (Also I f there is consciousness and that is infinite Why bother attempting to create some hierarchy with yourself at the top as though your anymore conscious than anyone else, all there is is consciousness right? And if it’s infinite you could never possibly be on top) Perhaps you have figured it all out, but maybe your deluded and could never possibly understand what reality is (whatever reality is). Which is what this posts about really, if I carry on with the termite analogy, were I to push my thumb down upon and crush a termite I doubt that it would be able to compute (were it able to reflect on its death) what had just happened to it; as it entirely lacks the cognitive ability to do so. By the same token, perhaps as humans, we too can’t compute and cognate what death is, maybe some inter-dimensional and godlike entity pushes its thumb down upon us and we compute that as something along the lines of “hey did you hear the news, jack died last week in a car crash” blah blah etc… when really Jack was crushed by the thumb of some strange extra dimensional alien entity. And I wouldn’t be surprised because life really does seem to be a joke to me and god as a comedian sort of character who just likes fucking with us for his own amusement. Also were reality to be infinite consciousness, then there would be infinite dimensions, infinite possible possibilities and infinite series of possible intelligences. Intelligence being the degree to which a organism/consciousness can compute and interpret data and apply that data to further it’s biological imperative. But where does that data come from? If reality isn’t real/there’s no objective reality. If reality is consciousness, than an organism is just exploring itself and what it is. Also if that’s the case then how could there ever be a reality? Look at dimensions, were you to take a 1 dimensional line that was infinite, the x gradient instantly becomes meaningless as it ceases to quantify, well quantify anything meaningful, as meaning requires something else to lack, likewise if there are infinite intelligence we will all simultaneously be as dull as a termite and as intelligent as god himself, so what good would our beliefs be. Aren’t beliefs really just stupid and pointless and entirely subjective, if that’s the case. You are what you are and that’s all you will ever be till your not. When Terence says the best we can hope for is a shadow of a shadow of the truth. I think that’s literally infinitely too optimistic till the point that it’s an empty statement. Anyway when Terence goes on to talk about language I find that pretty amazing as well, because that’s the point I was making with the belief stuff. That’s we evolved/created language really to deceive others and ourselves into believing that there is a reality, and that we use and manipulate that to our advantage. Here are two links to help make my point https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds http://sourcesofinsight.com/the-elephant-and-the-rider/ Reason, as covered in the article by the New Yorker, "Why facts don't change our minds" is an evolved mental firmware "like bipedalism or three colour vision". This firmware evolved on the savannas of Africa as our best advantage as human beings is our ability to communicate and therefore cooperate. Cooperation is difficult to establish and also difficult to maintain. “Reason is an adaptation to the hyper social niche humans have evolved for themselves" Mercier and Sperber write. Habits of mind that seem weird or goofy or just plain dumb from an “intellectualist” point of view prove shrewd when seen from a social “interactionist” perspective. As Nietzsche said - “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” Of the many forms of faulty thinking that have been identified, confirmation bias is among the best catalogued; it’s the subject of entire textbooks’ worth of experiments. Why would we have confirmation bias, of course to deceive ourselves and others about the nature of reality, so that we can be hyper social. This hyper sociability I believe is the reason why we have this tool of “reason”, which is a hijacking of our base animalistic desire to cooperate. Reason is not designed for understanding the external realities, our dimensions, or consciousness, otherwise we would not have confirmation bias. But instead as the article covers it provides the adaptive function which is refereed to as "myside bias". Human aren't randomly credulous, myside bias means that the task that reason was evolved to perform, is to prevent us from getting screwed by the other members of our group. Living in small bands of hunter-gatherers, our ancestors were primarily concerned with their social standing, and with making sure that they weren’t the ones risking their lives on the hunt while others loafed around in the cave. There was little advantage in reasoning clearly, while much was to be gained from winning arguments. This means something hugely significant, that even the reason why we reason and the fundamental way in which we compute reality is bullshit. Because we don’t reason to understand what is “real”, but instead to survive via cooperation. So there’s no point even trying to reason with people, they won’t understand you, they either comply to the script or they don’t. Even if they get it, they did it themselves of there own accord, not because you transferred some magical knowledge of reality into them, they just explored there own consciousness and derived at there own conclusions for there own reasons unrelated to reality. Which obviously includes me and everyone else. The relativity of your cultural viewpoint as Terence says. All language is, is a series of sounds that we delude to mean something but might as well be fart noises when you look behind the curtain and see why we have language to ecen begin with. Anyway I’m going stop typing, hope this made sense here are my questions, sorry for this being long winded, my thoughts are, and this is one place I have the opportunity to vent them out and have smart people respond and decipher them, so What is reality? Can we understand reality, if there is such a thing? If so, is there any real point to understanding reality?