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Yeah because the whole framework in which pickup is built is toxic. There are important teachings behind it. But the why is fucked up. A lot of my pickup buddies care about lays per year. There is one guy I know who has fucked 800 girls, but never had a girlfriend. Thats what doesn't hold. Toxic stage orange and a bit of red. Why do you get into pickup? That is a question you should ask. For me it is this now. It helps you attract women, which in turn develops key skills that are helpful for you as a man. Also, you attract women to find a women that is aligned with your values, your lifestyle, and that you can grow with. This is way more beautiful then sleeping with endless women. I made the same mistake, letting go of a girl because my mind was inundated with these toxic pickup philosophies. Take the good stuff, leave the bad.

Lol, this is my life right now. I quit my job in the west. Moved to Sri Lanka. Living in paradise, in solitude. Meditating/Kriya 3-5 hours a day. Working on my own mental health startup from my computer. My life is so simple, isolated, yet fully alive. Probably the most I have ever felt. Walking on the beach I came across a saltwater crocodile with no legs. I feel so much more at home being alone then with being around people all the time. Well right now that is. Love is here right now, within us, if you can cry at a women stroking a dog. Seeing the beauty in that. The beauty in all qualia. Seeing yourself as colour not as human. What do you need

It teaches you to face a different kind of pain. An emotional pain, that cuts deep into your identity. It has brought me to tears many times. Way harder then intense physical exercise and what not. But there is a flip. When you break free, you feel free. Not giving a fuck about anything. Then it feels like the easiest thing ever. But it takes a lot to break through in a night. Well for me anyway. When I walk into the club, I feel everything. The fear, the embarrassment, other people failing, sometimes it paralyses me, covers me in sweat.

Okay so something I've been sitting with around pickup, it was genuinely one of the hardest things I've ever done, and I think I finally understand why. As an INFP, I couldn't detach. Every approach carried real weight. The fear and anxiety weren't surface level, they went deep, like each interaction was somehow connected to whether I was actually worthy of love. I took everything to heart and I couldn't switch that off no matter how hard I tried. But when I did connect with someone? It was intense. Intense connection, real intimacy, something that felt almost beyond just dating. Like I was actually seeing the person and they could feel it. I think the standard pickup metrics, approaches per night, number closes, pull is so stupid, they were never built for someone like me. They're measuring extraverted sensing performance and I'm just not wired that way. Anyone else feel like the whole framework was designed for a completely different type of person? @Leo Gura was it easy fo you to detach as an INTP?

That makes sense Veg Boi, those shoes will work well in Islam.

Why not do it urself? What vinegar?

I have never come to try 5 MeO yet. But I have had break throughs into Love, Unity, Beingness on LSD which were a mindfuck. How does it compare?

What site did you get it from?

what about boofing?

Defo interested, would love to attend this. I have 5 MeO but to scared to do it alone

@AION I will, i know once i work through this I will come out stronger @Oppositionless Yeah it sucks like that, the mind does compare a lot. But one thing to realize is that there are lots of amazing women out there. Take time to heal and try again. As other people say on this thread. @Natasha Tori Maru I am happy you are happy. This was my girl first I really loved, and first real heartbreak. So it was her birthday yesterday and I messaged her. I think it was the right thing to do even though I am pressed sad now but it is a loving sadness. I wished her happy birthday. It was honestly a good convo. She was happy I wished her happy birthday and for me to reach out, but she also asked why I messaged I said I told her recently I’d had dreams about her, she had been on my mind recently, which made me relise she still mattered to me and I care for her wellbeing, but I said wasn’t trying to reopen anything just needed to say the truth. She told me she didn’t expect to hear from me, and that how things ended back then hit her hard since it was so abrupt. But she also said that over time she understood why I handled it that way, and she wasn’t holding it against me. I told her that it messed me up for a while after and I still feel the guilt to this day. The told me that I shouldn't feel guilty She said I was important to her, and thanked me for giving and creating amazing moments with her and for her and that she’d remember all our experiences together. It honestly gave both of us closure. But... This closure is painful right now, but now I can start to let her go

Thank you so much for the thoughtful replies, this has really helped me. I need to spend time processing the relationship and her so I can let her go and move on. I haven’t fully processed the grief. I jumped back into dating thinking I could just “get on with it,” but I realize now there’s deeper stuff I’ve been avoiding. The fear of being vulnerable again, of opening up, is real. And it’s showing up in my conversations and behavior. @Natasha Tori Maru what you said about not running from love and trusting you’ll survive it hit hard. That’s the courage I want to rebuild. @Emerald Yep so true, I love you idea about returning the the beginners mind with the wisdom of life's pain. I need to all myself to open, to be vulnerable to the pain, to accept what is, and use previous experiences to better understand and process what life has to offer. Thanks again to everyone who took the time to write. You’ve helped me see that what I’m going through is not only valid , it’s also a chance to grow stronger.

Hey everyone, I wanted to share something I’ve been struggling with lately. Last year, I felt like I was making really good progress in my journey of connecting with people, improving my social skills, and developing my game. I was sleeping with 1–2 girls a month for several months, going out regularly, meeting new people, and genuinely growing. It felt like I was shedding personal fears and limitations. I then last year got into a relationship. She was the love of my life. I had never felt a connection like that with anyone before. She was beautiful, we were incredibly close and intimate, and we deeply understood each other. It felt like a real love story, we even travelled across Europe together. But at the start of this year, she began expressing her vision for the future, and unfortunately, it didn’t align with mine. She wanted to have kids in five years, and I don’t want children at all. So we broke up. It was a mutual decision, but we were both heartbroken. Since then, I’ve started dating again but something’s changed. Even though I’m still going out and getting contact details, I feel really hesitant to take things further. There's this fear of intimacy and connection that keeps coming up. It’s like all the insecurities I worked through last year have resurfaced. I think I’m still carrying a lot of emotional weight from the breakup. When I speak to new girls, I find myself stuck in my head, unable to truly connect. I've had plenty of opportunities, but I just can't be bothered to follow through. I’m struggling to relate to girls on a deep level. I’m not being vulnerable I’m wearing a mask when I game. And honestly, I feel a lot of fear when it comes to taking things further. Has anyone else gone through something like this? I’d love to hear your thoughts or any advice you might have. Thanks for reading.

Thanks guys, was truly incredible to be able to discover things like this in life

Yesterday, I took 260 micrograms of LSD at around 8:00 in the morning. I began with a 30 minute meditation, focusing deeply on the questions, “What am I?” and “What is existence?” After about 30 minutes, I felt the urge to go for a walk and enjoy the morning sun, so I went to get a decaf coffee. As I was returning home, the effects of the LSD began to intensify. My sense of physicality started to dissolve, and the world around me took on an ethereal, almost divine quality. It felt as though I were walking in the Garden of Eden a place of pristine beauty and interconnectedness. I gradually lost the concept of myself walking on planet Earth in London, and the experience became more direct and immersive. When I got home, I sat on my couch and decided to listen to Leo’s “God Inquiry.” As I followed his guidance, my consciousness began to rise to unprecedented levels. It felt as if I were shedding layers of my ego, and I started to experience a dissolution of self. This was a level of awareness that I don’t believe is attainable through meditation alone. There was resistance a fear of letting go completely but I consciously decided to surrender to the experience and dive deeper. The first thing I noticed was that perception is a fiction. There is no one perceiving anything; there never was a human looking out into the world and perceiving it. Instead, the world is constructing everything and creating the illusion of perception. In lower states of consciousness, you mistake this for you perceiving a world. Here, I reached a profound realization: everything simply is. There are no distinctions, no separations. My body, the room, the world everything is one unified reality, manifesting itself without differentiation. It is self-aware and conscious of itself. The reason there is no perception is because everything is already aware of itself. I like to think of it as an analogy: a picture of a man looking at the world, but underneath, they are actually connected. My hands fascinated me. As I looked at them, I could see how they were materializing out of nothing that nothingness is pure divinity. Everything is absolutely divine; it’s the divine spark that created all of existence. I realized that my hands extended infinitely, and I am inevitable because there is no other way I could be. I am doing this because I can. I broke down in tears, overwhelmed by the realization that I am creating everything. I could see how everything is unified, and I finally understood that this is what love is: total love, God’s love for everything because it is everything. As the peak began to subside, I saw clearly that all the hatred and negativity I had ever harbored were products of my own selfish agenda my ego clinging to separateness and self-preservation, refusing to surrender to the flow of being. I started crying uncontrollably, overwhelmed by a sense of love and forgiveness. I apologized to life, to existence itself, for all the hatred I had held onto. I saw that life is not something to be fought against but something created out of infinite love. Even the separations we perceive between body and mind, self and other are born out of this love. This experience has completely transformed my perspective. It wasn’t just an intellectual understanding; it was visceral and undeniable. Everything is simply being itself, perfectly and exactly as it is meant to be. There is no judgment in reality, no right or wrong just infinite love expressing itself in countless forms. I emerged from this journey deeply humbled and profoundly grateful, with a renewed sense of purpose and connection.