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The claim is not metaphysical. The claim is tens of thousands of people have seen UFOs and the reports are too credible and numerous to dismiss at this point. You have to be willfully ignorant to ignore all the reports. These reports are not made by fools. They are made by serious professionals like Navy and commerical pilots. These people are not just making shit up for fame, and they are not crackpots or lunatics. And what they report is alien technology, not weather balloons or swamp gas or giant birds. Sometimes if it looks like an alien and it flies like an alien, it's an alien. The evidence pattern is precisely what you would expect from alien spacecraft who didn't wish to land and make a big welcome party. Science is irrelevant to this matter. If an alien flies over your head, you don't need science to tell you so. And no amount logical deduction can be used to judge the probabilty of it. If an alien flies over your head the probablity is 100%. Another example of horrible misuse of "science". The science is: you see a fucking alien in the sky, and you say aliens exist. It makes zero difference how many sicentists agree or disagree. It matters not a damn what Neil Degrass Tyson thinks. His thoughts are worth less that a plastic fork in this matter. Be ware your misuse of skepticism. There is nothing scientific about it. In fact, it gives science a bad name.

That's not how any of this works. The goal of the court is not to determine truth, but to establish justice to the highest possible degree. The entire point of the court system is to create a binary determination, guilty or not guilty. This is not how science works. We aren't trying to establish the motivations of the aliens, or what exactly they were doing, or whether or not the aliens sitting in the proposed craft were a particular alien. We have data and eye witness reports that show behaviours that cannot be explained by conventional means. You don't need to see anything beyond a silhouette to see that an object is moving is physically unintiutive ways, or that it disappears or flies away at a speed equally unintuitive. You don't know anything about a potential alien civilization. Why would it be the case that they would have the ability to mask their crafts? Just because you assume that is possible? And furthermore, what would even be the motivation for conceilment? Why would they believe that your way of conceilment is more appropriate than another? How do you know they are even familiar with the way other beings would detect an object? There are so many ungrounded assumptions it's utterly silly. Okay, provide some arguments for this. You are just assering that it is not unreasonable to assume X. Why would they be motivated to hide themselves, how do you know whether or not in their eyes, whatever conceilment they use, is not effective for whatever they are trying to accomplish? How do you know what kind of technologies they would have and be interested in? What about any of this is reasonable? All you do is trying to project your silly sci-fi ideas onto the real world. But this doesn't actually contend with any of the data there is. There are people who want aliens to exist as much as people who are dogmatically opposed to it. You don't recognize anything, you are simply asserting something that you have no way to justify. How the hell do you know what is most likely? You don't know anything, and you seem to not even be willing to contend or even look at the data that is already present.

@Windappreciator lol I'm not an alien and I don't have the power to cage up humanity. But my theory is already put into test with veganism alone

On a practical note, it sucks to suck, and I want to enjoy my life. I want to be able to help human beings and have a positive impact on life here. Below I’ve written what my answer is if we are not considering practicality. If I don’t assimilate the consciousness and power of all Existence into my conscious control, my avatar can’t have the highest stats. I don’t want to lose my first inter-dimensional PvP match to some machine elf, alien, or obscure deity. I’d like to create the first serious competitor to the Dao in order to break up this unhealthy monopoly in the marketplace of Existence. I’d like to be worshipped as the God of Madness, or simply Madness itself, in all possible timelines and realities. My favored weapon in battle would be picked before each fight by a random number generator. Option #42 would be a perfect replica of Mao’s genitalia made of fool’s gold called “Ze DONG” for example.

Scene cuts to Peony entering the main hall of the palace. A large hall adorned by pillars and chandeliers. Such beauty and wealth. Peony is a poor woman raised in poverty. Such wealth is alien to her. She cannot even make sense of why a rich royal like Jagat has set his eyes on her when he can have a bevy of rich ladies waiting to for a chance with him. But Jagat won't let go..

Thank you for your time and detailed response! It makes much more sense now. Thank you! So on the one hand, there is a way that reality actually is and the way we imagine it to be. So for example, earth is round from outer space but appears like a plane from earth perspective. What I did wrong was I confused objective truth for relative truth. So flat earthers are wrong about the earth being flat from space relative to their perceptions and sensations. If an alien looks at earth from 7D and sees it as flat and I am in 3D seeing it as round, then we would be both “correct” and no perception in this case is more valid than others relative to survival. If the human who sees in 3D and is on a planet in 7D, their perceptions won’t match with the survival needs of those in 7D in this hypothetical. So assuming we all perceive reality in the same dimension, a flat earther would see a similar social constructed spherical shape, dictated by our culture as spherical and round. The flat earther would be fooling themselves if they denied their perceptions that the earth appears spherical when it is. But the Alien in 7D May see our earth completely different and not spherical at all. Maybe aliens see shapes totally different like you mentioned in the Cat and Boop example. And to a blind man, the earth is neither flat nor round in the experiential perspective. Shapes and colors do not exist visually to a blind man and shapes are relative to how we define shapes. Thanks for your response and I plan on contemplating this a bit more and I will reread your post again to add more clarity to my contemplation and to make sure I am getting this and not confusing or deluding myself.

It as a nice read, but ultimately this is just another one in a large pile of theories I have already read about alien life and their machinations. For the record, I hope you are wrong and they do make the obvious entrance most of us hope for, humanity needs a reality wake-up.

HAah ha ha prefect analogy. Remember the first time I glimpsed the thing "alien" was the first thought that popped into the mind. REALLY CREEPY because of how infinite and intelligent it was. And then I used the metaphor of being possessed, first your entire being, and then it possesses everything else then eventually it IS the entire universe, always have been, and it is only THAT which is looking out through your eyes. When you walk is just the universe eating. When you shit is just the universe shitting.

It’s as radical as a trip. You aren’t feeling what I’m feeling. Your judgments for the quality of consciousness are too rigid which keeps you from properly seeing the moment as it is which is enough to transport you to somewhere that’s far more foreign than some DMT alien space, but you’ve went nowhere and nothing has moved. You’re in a human room on earth, from the perspective of this conversation. Nothing has to change for everything to change more than change itself.

I have been reading a lot of comments the past few days, before making up my mind about what has happened. The main issue seems to be that the majority of people that critique and misinterpret Leo's work are not able to distinguish between Absolute Truth and relative truth. This doesn't make much sense to me, because I have always been able to make such a distinction, but the people that come on this forum have various level of development and I can see how a newbie might misunderstand a True spiritual principle like "All fears are illusion". My suggestion is to make a video or a post about the topic of Absolut Truth and relative truth and pin it at the top of the forum, so that it is clearly stated that they are two different things. I have noticed another problem with the spiritual community in general. Spiritual people tend to become crazy and forget how to behave like a normal human being. The main issue is that on the spiritual path you might see things out of this world and if your mind is not malleable enough you might go insane. I wish that people would be able to have a mystical experience or chat with an alien on Friday and then be able to go to work at the office on Monday, as if nothing special as happened. A video along the line of "How not to lose your mind while on the spiritual path" is much needed. Again, some people on this forum have been studying non-duality for years and others are completely new to the path. In my opinion, it has to be stressed more that studying the map of the non-dual territory actually matters, otherwise you might crash hard. Leo, you used to do that in the past way more, now you are promoting psychedelics. Which is fine to me, but promoting psychedelics to a newbie might have negative repercussions. I think you should make clear that before getting serious with psychedelics a newbie should have a clear understanding of non-duality. Personally, before trying any kind of psychedelic I have studied non-duality for five years or even more, and those five years of study have helped me a lot making sense of what I have experienced during my psychedelics session and staying a functional human being. I hope this post is going to help somehow @Leo Gura

Salvia Divinorum did not reproduce the no-self effect for me as deeply as the combination of being really stoned on cannabis then hitting a large amount of DMT. On that combination I recall now that I literally had no idea that humans ever existed. By no idea I mean truly, I did not even try to remember what a human is because I didn't even know such a thing existed. I did not know that I had EVER not been where I was at that time or that I ever had a name. I WAS a worm, always had been, and I had always existed in this neon green tunnel which I moved through. There was no possibility to be scared and I did not focus on the trip or what was happening, because I had NO IDEA that this was unusual at all. It was like you are a human now but really you're a space alien and soon you will be back in your alien self. We have no idea what's happening now is abnormal so we feel it is mundane. Same thing. A curious experience but ultimately uninsightful. If you don't even know that you ought to be paying attention to what's happening then you will simply miss it all.

@Dodo If you were sober and seeing things which aren't there and thinking you are Jesus being attacked by dark forces, I would suggest looking into the possibility of schizophrenia. There's an actual easy at home test for schiz, involving sipping soda while making a certain facial expression. Connor stops believing he is an alien etc. once he is given antipsychotics. If dark forces are causing you distress, something like Seroquel might make them vanish.

He also says he is a 5th dimensional alien lifeform, that he is the literal second coming of Christ, and all sorts. Have you even seen how unhinged and ill he is? He has been sectioned for psychosis already.

I've just been wondering myself as to how seeing 'aliens' may have originally come about for me 15-14 months ago. I had previously been doing practices that would induce a non judgement, non fear based state. My perception was very clean during the beginning of that period of time. To have perceived what was normal as otherwise 'alien' to my perception could be a real possibility. Although it doesn't explain why intentions were so much more loving and positive than a usual human being.

Yes. In 'psychosis' I had the experience that people were devoid of their humanness. They had different wants, intentions and interests. Completely alien. They would light up, especially the masculine aliens, as a result of these differing internal states. Feminine aliens were incredibly loving, which would also induce the lit up quality in the masculine.

@BipolarGrowth I don't believe this kind of experience is what OP is referring to. That sounds more like a psychedelic delusion to me. @Delis To clarify, are you referring to a state where other people still look perfectly human and normal to your eyes, but rather your mind is processing their form as if for the first time, giving you the perception that you're looking at something extremely alien? If so, I've had this experience myself. Imo it's caused by a disidentification with the usual categories your brain uses to process the world (such as 'person), so you're left looking at the 'raw data' so to speak.

I’d like to start this off by mentioning that I’m a 40 year old dude who has never before done any substances before not even weed. So this is my first ever experience on a single gram of mushroom, and BOY-OH-BOY !! WHAT AN EXPERIENCE IT WAS !! So I hope you enjoy this trip as much as I did. I should add that I’m a fairly skinny individual; I probably weight around 125/130 pounds and I’m 5’7 - So that may be the reason why just a single gram had this effect on me. Having no trip experience before, I really did not know what to expect. Few other things to mention before I start; and all this is important to give you an idea of where I live (for set and setting) - I live on the 33rd floor of a high rise with large windows with an unobstructed south facing views of the city, with lake Ontario visible far off in the distance. There’s a park directly beneath my building (visible to me) with a few other buildings in the vicinity. I was mainly in the living room of my condo unit during this experience. I have a large 60 inch 4K TV (this too is important to mention) situated a few feet in front of the sofa in my living room. Last thing to mention is that I’m a photographer by profession, that started as a hobby where I mostly photographed in nature. So my love for nature and photography go hand in hand. ----- So I took the 1 gram mushroom dose in tea form that I steeped and drank within a span of 15/20 mins as I switched on the TV to YouTube, and was watching and listening to some clips of Leos (the new short clips, he recently released) on YouTube. Onset: As the mushroom starts to take effect; at first I don’t quite like the experience. I feel light headed, sort of nauseated like I’m drunk, so I sit back on the sofa cross legged with an off white blanket wrapped around me. For some reason I can’t stand listening to Leo anymore, so I use the remote to switch to something else, and this is only because of the dizziness I started to experience on the onset. I did a search for “Nature 4K” on YouTube and clicked on a video of a rushing waterfall in a forest thumbnail that was one of the results that came up. Best fukin video ever!! and I’m so glad I clicked on this one. (I've added the link below) A few mins into the onset and now I’m starting to feel funny. And I literally mean funny. At first it started with a few random giggles that slowly started to escalate into full blown hysterical fits of laughter for no apparent reason. This surprised me. After-all I had no reason to laugh, unless I'm seeing something funny or someone told me a hilarious joke. But not while just watching a 4K nature video play out on the TV. ----- The Magical Forest: The laughter now started to come in waves. I just felt like laughing and so I let loose and just laughed my ass off for absolutely no apparent reason, as I walked through this incredible forest on my TV, while sitting of my sofa with a blanket wrapped around me. I don't think I’ve ever laughed this hard. It was fuckin Amazing !! So I’m still watching this beautiful forest video, as the camera man is walking on this winding path through the forest, and I pretend it's me. There's some beautiful music playing in the background of the video, it's green everywhere with a play of light and shadow, and slowly I'm starting to realize how amazing this forest looks. Almost Heavenly. I tell myself there is no way such a beautiful forest exists on this planet. It's like another world, like a new planet that we discovered recently, with such an amazing blend of colors and greens and light. I could see myself living there, like a woodland creature, and I’d be the happiest person ever, just to be there. The fits of laughter I was having continued, as I kept walking through this Ethereal forest, completely taken in by its beauty. In some of the scenes I was walking through this muddy slushy area of the forest, that I would normally try to avoid these areas if I was actually there, but suddenly it all seemed perfect. It was perfect just as it was. The slushy mud, the toppled down and uprooted trees. There were no longer any imperfections in this forest that I would usually try to avoid photographing. But now it all seemed indescribably perfect, like this was heaven. This was definitely heaven. Such a beautiful forest could not exist here on earth. I kept laughing and telling myself how beautiful it was and I wish I was actually there with my camera to capture how beautiful it was. I was envious of this cameraman who got to experience this first-hand. By now I was laughing so much I had tears streaming down my face. I was laughing at what I was feeling; waves of happy euphoria. I was laughing at how beautiful nature is, the way the sunlight touched the ferns and reflected in a dazzling blend of greens and yellow and wood and dirt and it was all magical and beautiful and ethereal and heavenly. ----- The Grand Chasms: A few more mins in … maybe 30 mins in the laughter started to die down, but the smile on my face stayed on. I was gleefully grinning like a kid on Christmas morning knowing he is going to be opening up his presents. The dizziness I was feeling started to go away as well. But I knew I wasn’t fully steady, so I remained seated on the sofa, and I got more comfortable in my seating. I’m still watching the video, cause I’m completely entranced and caught up in the mesmerizing nature of this forest, when I started to notice that the ground and grassy area of the forest seemed to move and come alive. So I moved my eyes away from the screen for a bit and looked at the blanket that was wrapped around me. This blanket was just an ordinary wooly type blanket that I use when I’m usually meditating daily. But now it didn’t seem so ordinary anymore. Since I had my knees folded up to my chest with the blanket around me, I could clearly see the neatly woven lines of yarn of the blanket that rose up. Normally this is not something anyone would notice, its just a fuckin blanket for petes sake. But now suddenly these stood out like chasms, like I was literally staring into another landscape in another world. As the blanket morphed itself around the curves of my legs, it seemed to take on another worldly quality, like an entire land mass was resting around my body. And as the soft wooly bits of yarn rose up and out of the blanket they seemed like tall trees and land masses with mountains and valleys, that someone like myself could shrink into and get lost into another blanket world. This thought and the clarity of the experience blew me away !! I looked away from the blanket back to the forest on my TV screen still playing the background and paused the video. But as the image stayed paused on this beautiful scene, it took on a three dimensional quality of depth, and it seemed like the video was still playing, like the ferns and leaves were moving. I looked at my ceiling, and suddenly I was transported into another world again. The ceiling in my condo is called a “popcorn ceiling” if you’re not familiar with the term then look it up. I hate how it looks because it's not like a normal smooth plain ceiling, but rough and jagged like someone took some white chunky peanut butter and spread it out across the ceiling. Apparently it helps with keeping noise down between floors. So I look up at the ceiling and suddenly the rough texture took on a whole otherworldly quality. Just like the vast rocky mountains in my blanket, the ceiling transports me into another grand canyon of gorges and deep clefts, and again I felt like I could shrink down into this tiny ant sized human and explore my ceiling for days and I would wander between mountains and valleys carved out between these huge boulder sized chunks of chalk and styrofoam. I kept staring at the ceiling and it seemed to morph and blend into these tiny honeycomb like crevices. This ceiling that I always ignored and disliked, now seemed almost otherworldly and an invitation for exploration. By now I of course figured out that my senses were starting to sharpen, as I’ve read from other people experiences. So I took my hand out from under the blanket and bought it close to my face, and BHAM !! Another fucking world to explore !! ----- Heightened Sense Perceptions: As I looked at my hand, I started to see it in a whole new light. Every ridge of my fingers stood out tack sharp, like I’ve never ever seen it before. I could clearly see the fingerprints on the tip of my fingers, every single curve and ridge and arch and loop, stood out like mountain ridges that ran for miles across my hand and my fingers, like some satellite imagery from space. This was literally another fucking world. MY HAND WAS ANOTHER FUCKIN WORLD, ANOTHER CONTINENT !!! Again I’m blown away by what I’m seeing in my own fuckin hand, like I could literally take a spaceship and fly deep down into palm of my hand and explore another world. As I looked closer I had a sense of aliveness within my hands. Like every single millimeter of it had some form of secret alien life within it that was working and shaping my hand and carving out these lines and ridges and exploring them !! GOOD GOD !! (I started to understand why Leo keeps talking about looking at your hand and experiencing it for what it is) By now I’m completely immersed into the whole experience. I’m smiling, I’m happy inside, I’m experiencing this brand new level of immersion and depth that almost seems dream-like, but so very real, that I was just not sure what to make of all of this. I started to understand now. Finally !!! There's the waking state, there’s the dreaming state, and then there is this strange psychedelic state - strange for me, but I’m sure quite normal of some who have experienced it many times. This was new to me and I was fuckin loving every moment of it. By now I was feeling less light headed, but also excited to explore. It's like anything and everything I looked at with a noticeable texture reminded me of another world. I was literally seeing whole undiscovered regions and continents within my own living room. I decided to get up and look out my window, and oh man !! What can I say? I wasn’t on fuckin Earth anymore. It’s like without realizing it I had walked into a parallel universe that opened up inside my living room. As I looked out my window, I almost felt like crying. Everything was as it was. The buildings were there, the park was there, the cars zipping by, but the play of light and colors, made it feel completely different. I know that it was just my own vision and perception that was heightened, but the way the light danced outside my window, it was as if daylight took shape and form and danced around the buildings and on the park, over the lake and in the distance. Like it was a happy light and it was glad to show off its colors as it reflected and moved through the trees and the buildings and road. I stared outside the window for a while completely baffled and mesmerized by how everything looked. But more important than that was how I was feeling at the same time. I was feeling happy and light-hearted. I had this feeling that everything was going to be okay and I had absolutely nothing to worry about. A storm was brewing in the distance as I was taking in this whole scene out my window and I was telling myself that this had to be the most beautiful storm system I had ever seen in my life. So I pulled out my phone and placed it on the window sill and did a time-lapse video of the event with the camera looking out the window (I still have that video, showing the storm clouds moving across the sky). By now I started to feel some hunger come on. I had some snacks that I thought I’d eat, this was basically some cashews and pistachios. And as I was tasting these nuts, it tasted like the most delicious cashews and pistachios I’ve ever tasted. It tasted the same, but the taste was heightened ten fold. I also had a packet of some left over chips and I bought those out and I looked at this one chip and again I’m seeing the texture of this chip like its a whole continent that need to be explored, and I put this continental chip in my mouth and bit into it and the flavor was so intense, I had to sigh in pleasure. But now I was over an hour and half into the experience and I was feeling that it was starting to wear off, which was disappointing, because I was really enjoying the experience and wanted it to last forever. So there you have it. I realize that there was no mystical experience, as it was mainly visual and experiential in the sense that I was happy as I've ever been in my life. I have some questions that I hope some of you more experienced can answer: 1) I have two more tea bags and was wondering if I should just do a 2 grams, next time (steep both tea bags) - I'm not sure how intense that would be for me, given that I live on my own? 2) How do I minimize the nauseated feeling on the Onset? 3) What else can you recommend I do during the trip to intensify the experience? Thanks for reading YouTube vid I was watching during the trip:

Right... Now you are talking an alien language that doesn't correspond to direct experience. In fact if any.. It's YOU who is imagining God imagining stuff.. not the other way around.

I'm writing this hoping I can get some direct communication from Leo or someone else. The name I was born with means "A Vessel Forged to House the Love and Grace of God." I have created my own understandings of love and grace, and have always felt a deep sense of responsibility to the people in this world. When Leo speaks of someone becoming a true god in this world, my instincts scream at me to tell me it's me. I'd like some direct guidance and perspective because with my golden birthday coming up, I'm a little fearful. I've talked to a lot of spirits, but my A Team is Kwan Yin, Loki, Thor, Jesus, Apollo, Poseidon, Hades (We love to talk about musicals, also his threats are really funny), Hermes of course, and last but not least my chief advisors Aidos and Nemesis, as well as other gods that lie outside the formations of our current understandings. Lastly, just because I'm ridiculous I added Ursoc from World of Warcraft and Alien X from Ben 10. It was partially a silly decision, but I wanted a perspective of what love and grace meant from beings outside the societal construct of what's held as real, normal or true. We have little respect for animals in our world relative to what their needs are, and I intend to focus my efforts on that issue. My body has been stressed to the point I can't think straight, and it's becoming a detriment to my artwork. If Leo or another admin with good perspective can message me with their number for an hour chat or so, it would mean everything to me. Sincerely, The Dragonbjorn

Less identification to the body (or, there is more than the body) I read the newest posts from this thread: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/18958-let-us-see-your-face-?/ Is it conscious to post pics of the person behind the account? Of course. Would I post? I could. Yesterday I was hiking with friends. Perfect day for a hike, even from a judging perspective. Just flowing. Feels good. However interestingly, in the evening I went through the photos of me and there was a strange feel of being alien in this human body. Yes, I know this body, but the person is so radically different from the body. This beingness feels outerworldly. I think Leo mentioned in the JP video the delicate balance between deconstructing and integrating aspects of reality. You can go overboard with it (and yet it is Beauty and Love). Interestingly, the person can be rigid and have an agenda by focusing more on transcendence. Spiritual bypassing. Avoiding life. Seeking a shortcut.

The "your ego's perspective" is an add-in. You are creating that. Notice the framing of "your ego's perspective", rather than "the creation I'm creating that I call 'your ego's perspective'". (And yes, I am aware I am doing the same thing within this construct). You seem to be interested in assumptions, here there is an assumption that there is an external thing of "your ego's perspective". Notice the construct of "argument". Imagine we are hiking together in the forest and I say "look how that hummingbird flies!!! It flies like an alien!". Wouldn't it be odd to say "Your argument that the hummingbird flies like an alien is predicated upon assumptions". That framing is very debate oriented and very restrictive. It is not exploratory. Yet in terms of argumentative structures, EVERY argumentative structure is predicated upon assumptions. In fact, any thing is predicated on the assumption that it is not another thing. This is what I'm referring to as a simplistic construct. Within the construct of an objective, external reality - this is correct. Yet within a relative construct, this is only partially true. The phrase "there is no normal for you or normal for me" indicates a conscious state contracted within objective, external reality that cannot see relativity. It literally say there is no relativity and reveals lack of this awareness. Within the relative construct of "normal" you are creating, that is true. Yet it is not true in other relative constructs of "normal". For example, we could say that deconstructing terms is "normal" - this is true within that relative construct of "normal". Notice how you are saying that your perception is normal and my perception is abnormal. I am saying that your perception is both normal and abnormal. As well, my perception is both normal and abnormal. This is relativity. What is normal and abnormal is relative to the perception of what is normal and abnormal. For that to be true, you would need to be playing like you don't understand things like spectrums, mosaics and relativity. That would be like someone fluent in Spanish pretending they are a begginner in Spanish. That would be playing a game. I'm straight-up adding elements of relativity to what I write. It doesn't get any more direct. If you can't see the relativity elements I'm spitting out, you don't understand relativity. It would be like me saying "Como estas?" and you replying "Say something to me in Spanish". If you could speak Spanish, you would be playing games that you don't speak Spanish. As I've said, I can't give you a personalized reason for you to get the vaccine. A personalized reason comes from within. Imagine me asking "tell me a reason why it should learn freestyle rap". If I'm not internally interested in freestyle rap, there is no reason you can give me. Anything you say, I would dismiss as having no value for me. You could say "Freestyle rap would improve your vocabulary" and I could respond "I don't need to improve my vocabulary". I'm able to give both positive and negative elements of the vaccine. Yet I cannot give a reason for you, because that is relative to you. You create your personal values.

Many enlightened people see through the illusion of love between family members and having children. One important question would be how many enlightened people would reproduce? It is possible that some would be too focused on consciousness to the point that not enough people reproduce. This could be bad for society if everybody were that enlightened. Assuming there are enough people reproducing, I would expect the crime rate to be much lower. Corruption in the government would not be tolerated at that point. Businesses would be regulated enough to prevent white collar crimes. I don't know if a totally enlightened society would keep money or go full blown communism. Sadhguru is a communist. If the society were stage turquoise, then it would recognize the importance of the entire spiral. Space exploration could continue and new technology would still be developed. This is necessary because one day the sun will engulf the earth. We must terraform other planets to survive. An enlightened society across the galaxy would have varying survival strategies. They may be interested in bringing love throughout the universe. This means if humans discover other intelligent species, we may guide their evolution like friendly aliens. I have an optimistic view of alien life. If there are intelligent species that evolved for tens of thousands of years beyond humans, then their morality would be more developed as well their technology. This is why aliens would be interested in preventing humans from blowing up the earth through nuclear war. If an enlightened society existed already, I would guess it is the aliens preventing us from blowing up the earth.

Higher resolution views can provide clarity. I'm not using "low resolution, crude" in that context. Imagine an alien comes to earth and is learning the concept of "intimacy". As examples of intimacy, the alien is shown two people gazing into each other's eyes as they make love and the alien is shown two people gazing into each others eyes as one is being strangled to death. Both are extremely intimate moments. Yet this is a crude view because it lacks the relative nature of "light" and "dark" as perceived through the eyes of the beholder. The alien may want to share intimacy and go out strangling people to death. People then point out the relative nature of "light" and "dark". This brings in another dimension into higher resolution, yet the event is not inherently "light" or "dark", it is both light and dark as well as neither light nor dark. The alien's view will be molded by it's angle of perception. If the alien hangs out with serial killers, it will come to understand the wonderful beauty in strangulation intimacy. If the alien could enter the mind of a serial killer, it would directly experience the wonderful beauty of strangulation intimacy. . . Yet if someone points out that strangulation intimacy is also dark, it will reject that view. Since strangulation intimacy is "light", it cannot also be "dark". It will disagree with anyone pointing out the dark nature because any such conclusion is founded on faulty assumptions. From the understanding that strangulation intimacy is "light", it is true that any conclusions that strangulation intimacy is "dark" is founded upon faulty assumptions. However, this is a contracted view. Imagine that the alien gets to experience strangulation intimacy from the perspective of being strangled. This is also an extremely intimate experience, yet know it would be perceived as a "dark" intimacy. The alien would realize "Ooohhhh, so this is what people were talking about the dark nature of strangulation". The alien would then understand that strangulation is 1) intimate, 2) wonderfully intimate and 3) darkly intimate. However, whenever the alien spoke of the "dark" aspect, those that only understand the "light" aspect would say "you believe that strangulation intimacy is 'dark'. Such conclusions are based on faulty assumptions". . . Within the contraction that strangulation intimacy is light, it is true that all conclusions that strangulation intimacy is dark is faulty. As well, recognizing the relativity of "light" and "dark" nature is still a surface-level view, in particular the *other side* that has been labeled as faulty. For example, we could say "Yea, yea, yea. What someone sees as 'light' or 'dark' is relative", yet the embodiment is much stronger on one side. For example, your understanding and embodiment is much stronger on the "light" side. Even if such a mind recognizes conceptually that what we perceive as "light" and "dark" is relative, the understanding and fluency is much stronger on one side. If one wanted to deepen understanding and fluency on another side, a lot of work and effort would be needed.

Very nice and very true that if you go keto then processed food feels alien and artificial. Where in nature do you find a meal with the amount of sugar contained in a cake ?

We have many religions which have practice of doing idol worshipping. This creates a problem now. This stops people from asking further questions into nature of what God is . And pursuing the path to Enlightenment. There are billions of people on earth who do idol worshiping and thinks god is some being sitting in sky separate from them who made the universe and all humans and animals. This satisfy them and never allow them to ask further questions about what God really is , What I am? What is reality made up of? What I came here to do? Religion function as organized template which stops people from asking question and even validating whether what their religion preach is even true or not. Whether their customs, traditions, rituals are superstitious or not. Their is great sense of attachment to their religion and they take it as faith no matter what is written in the religion. If god is truely inconceivable , infinite, cannot be described using words, languages or forms then dont you think using idol to worship infinite formless god is very against the characteristics of what God really is? And then it stops people from asking further question into the nature of what god is and journey to enlightenment. You see what religion is doing is laying down some mythology for people to believe in which satisfy people's question about nature. They thinks some god sitting in sky separate from them or a being having human features separate from them made this universe and whole reality . This stops their further quest into enlightenment. And why do religions thinks that god looks like human? Why not universe? Why not some advanced alien being? Why their is inclination of people in believing that god is separate from them and looks like human ? And should be worshiped through idols?