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Carl-Richard replied to John Doe's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Pickup is more limiting than productive (relative speaking). After years of reading, watching and being into pickup ive come to realize most people are better off without it. Pickup is a system. A one way approach to get sex. Pickup is like the hatha yoga for enligthenment. Most ppl dont get laid even after learning it. Is a big business. The problem with pickup in my case has been that after knowing the truth of sexuality, you start to see the conditioning it has done on you. One thinks that if not done exactly as we have been taught, any act will be wrong. Building alot of limiting beliefs. I've come to discover my success rate has grown after not applying pickup. You might start well with a strategy and dont continue or get any result. It pisses off. This calculation and rules are actually bad when seen from a higher perspective. You are better of going just intuitively-compulsive and unconscious of the process than by analyzing anything at all. Ive come to prove this to my self after highly increasing my results on tinder by just going bluntly straight forward from the start as to me being sexual with the girl. But, the thing is you think you need to think. No, you dont. It has to be intuitive. The frame has to be unconsciously persistent from you to her without you being conscious of what you are doing. Everytime you become conscious of an aspect of the interaction it actually interrupts the flow of the frame. Cut off the bullshit from the start. The bs patterns of getting to know each other. If you feel truly sexually confident she will feel it and most of the time follow you. After that you know if shes worth of your time and now you can slowly escalate your way there if needed. If not, you can get straight sex even agreed from the chat. Its an energy game. A game of the subtle bodies (ego). I wish I could explain this better, but its difficult through words just as truth. (Believe me, What ever you feel she will feel, even through text. Timing is huge in texting, so patterns are to be percieved. If you feel anxious through text, she will feel it. If you feel confident, she will also feel it. Even if you dont know how. You dont need to know. Just trust she is feeling you. So be honest to yourself and her. Interactions should not be seen through the lens of "Game". Its very limiting and counter-productive most of the time. If you interact in a hyper aware-calculative manner you wont proceed. Thats robotic. Interactions most Flow unconscious of all the aspects that are normally thought off and analyzed). My point is, become aware, then forget about what you became aware off in order to proceed in true Flow. Im amazed by how fast I can get results now. Just truly feel it and she feels it... No need to do any crappy juggle. If shes not into it, skip and go to the next one. Simple as that. If you want a partner then do all that stuff and slowly know each other. But if what you truly only want is sex, stay on that frame, feel it, embody it and you will attract the right partner in that same vibration. So again, why is pickup limiting? Well like in any topic, some knowledge can be applied in some situations, but in others its just counter productive. After gaining more general knowledge, Truth and Consciousness you start to develop mixups skills, which only comes when you have a good higher perspective of anything. For example, in my case ive stopped liking being over masculine and alpha. It doesnt satisfy me. Neither regular and hyper femenine women. I like really slutty women who have a more balanced energy as to masculine and femenine. It doesnt mean they are masculine, it just means they dont have all of the bs drama and limiting beliefs of regular hyper feminine women. They are harder to find, but most bisexual girls & scorts are like this. And in my case, I like being less masculine and a little more passive. Also, letting the girl have more sexual intitiative (Most girls are lazy & not slutty). This makes me experience my sexuality more complete and deep. Cuz now I can feel the feminine energy and masculine too in sex. Not just active masculinity. Its hard to explain and show this. But, sex is on a whole new level like this. One of my wishes is to find a hot advanced alien slut to get as naughty as possible, lol. What will get you laid: 1-Truth 2-Courage 3-Sexual confidence (This one is tricky. You dont need to get laid a bunch of times to develop this. Get used to being naked. Sleep naked. Watch yourself in the mirror, record yourself, get dirty on cam or snap. This will make your subconcious believe you are sexual, thus making you feel confident. Love your body and sexuality). Note: Dont start chatting a girl randomly. Do it only if you feel it. Awareness of emotions are crucial in interactions, they let you know what you are unconsciously communicating through expression. My only strategy is the following: If on a dating app like tinder. Dont get a bunch of matches. They get nowhere. Only like women you really like. After the first match go unseen and dont do more matches. Focus on one girl. Now, after matching let her there. Only talk to her when you are in the mood. Prepare your mind as to what you want. Thats setting the frame. "Sex". Ok, get into a sexual mood. Touch, watch porn, whatever turns you on. After that, prepare your mind to know you will either succeed or get rejected. Dont try to do any tricks to make her like you. Charge some courage until you feel it. Be honest with your emotions. Ready? Ok, you are now confident in a sexual mood and full of some courage. Proceed your request through some flirty comment on her. Forget about showing interest too early. Dont think. Just feel. Know that there are only two options. She liked your comment? Great, keep going and set a date. She rejected you? Great! Thats exactly the girl I dont want. There you go.
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OmniYoga replied to OmniYoga's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Gesundheit that is the thing, I've never experienced anything that is beyond materialist paradigm or anything different than that, therefore don't ask me to convince myself that is not true, also I don't hold a belief that I "exist" - that might be just a simulation or recalled memory of myself from the past played on some alien's server - there is no way to validate that this reality is "real" as far I as know, I am open minded about it, as you can see I'm destined to continue my "search", until I taste on my own the sweetness of banana @Ananta I know what he is saying at least at conceptual mind level, but that doesn't change my life experience that much -
The0Self replied to Artsu's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I’m not so sure about synchronicities. I do believe in them but my absolute most harrowing and actually convincing run in with them was while under the influence of a meth overdose where I thought every speck on the wall was an alien camera and I was on a day-in-the-life-of-a-human show broadcasting on some alien planet. It was 18 hours of perceived persecution and actual synchronicities that I still can’t fully explain 5 years later. I chalk it up to psychosis. Also had a similar thing happen without psychosis when combining a dissociative with a psychedelic. I think they could be relative-God speaking with you. -
Hello everybody, I am already three years on my journey to awakening and since this spring I have started doing 5-meo-dmt. My approach was to start with low dosages and to gradually and systematically move up to a breakthrough dosage. For me "shit began to get real" only when I moved up to plugging 50-60mg, it's here that I realised it is not a cute little part of me that will die but in a sense my whole being and everything that I hold dear. So after that I decided to gradually lower my dosages, also because I know that 50-60mg is a crazy high dosage (in normal circumstances for the average person). And I am noticing that my trips are not necessarily getting weaker, so I intend on continuing my gradual decline in dosage until I hope that I can have a breakthrough on a more average breakthrough dosage. as of now I went trough a whole packet without breaking trough. Let me describe my trips because apart from maybe the different insights that I got, the overall gist of the trips are the same: The come-up phase involves a lot of fear and purification accompanied with compulsions to puke. In my last trip I actually puked out my stomach acid (I didn't consume anything that day). But all of this makes sense because the ego/body will apply every trick in the book to try to fight the dramatic raise in consciousness. But after the come-up which lasts 10 to 20 minutes comes the high, which always starts with a huge sigh of relief that the come-up phase is over. In the high-phase I always seem to do the same thing: Yoga. This is not some yoga according to established techniques but it is just me twisting and stretching in the way I see fit. The 5-meo induced consciousness already makes all of my muscles super relax. And I notice that all of my exercises revolve around the lower back. So am I working up to a kundalini awakening? But all of the above is just the background for the thing I really want to talk about and that is a dream I had last night, and by no means was this a normal dream. First I need to tell you that a few years ago when I was in bed somewhere at the halfway point between being awake and fully sleeping. At the point where you are not really sleeping but nonetheless have dreamlike "stories" playing out "in the brain". At that point, a certain kind of energy befall me. It was a kind of energy to which I could surrender-to or recoil from. That night I recoiled Immediately out of fear. Afterwards I console my self with an amount of self-love I was not normally capable of and out of curiosity I decided to no longer recoil from this energy but to surrender in to it if it comes back. After all, by leaving me it listened end "respected" my reaction so it definitely has a kind of benevolence to it. By the way, years before that I made a similar commitment with nightmares that I will not recoil and open my eyes but face them till the end. The reason I recoiled so fast from that energy that befall upon me was because I felt it wanted to "abduct" me for a lack of a better word, I even lifted up and started floating above my bed (paranormal style) . Also at that time this energy had a alien vibe about it, I even could hear UFO sounds, the same that you hear in every retro sci-fi movie. And over the years this energy revisited and I surrendered in it the best I could. There was fear and there was love, and so was the case last night. But I think because of the 5-meo and the resulting purifying I have been recently doing, the energy was particularly strong. So what happend: At this point it barely comes into my mind to recoil so again I tried to surrender to it the best I could. The energy lifted me up a meter or two, flipped me and put me back down. this repeated itself a couple of times. During this time all kinds of fears came up. I remember worrying that my mother might see me flip and freak out (even though I live on my own). But my biggest fear was that I would die because I will forget or seize to breath. And while being flipped like a burger I sometime had to wildly grasp for air. I asked my self: did I wildly grasp for air only in the dream or in real life as well? And It is here that I made the insight that "real life" is just as illusionary (or real for that matter) as the dream I am having. When I came down from the flipping and the energy slowly left me. Is saw a shadowy humanoid figure standing in the corner of the room. I think it was my literal (psychological) shadow. While looking at it I evoked love. There was fear but the love and wisdom was stronger. I did not recoil for no coward soul is mine(; The last thing I want to say and my message to you is that working up to awakening takes a lot of purifying yourself which means confronting and letting go of fears. even though this experience may sound very scary and negative, you must know that the mercy of god was always with me as it is with you. Again this energy respected me, so if I recoiled out of fear it would have respected that decision and leave me alone. You must know that the mercy of God is also always with you. In one of my 5-meo trips I made this insight that God plays the Uncle Iroh archetype (from avatar the animation serie). Even though you are a devil that lost his ways. God loves you and is nonetheless always there for you, blessing you in all kinds of ways. His blessings, you take for granted or may slip under your radar. I am a person who says thank you a lot and I usually appreciate other people for example helping me. But nonetheless during one my trips I also realised that I am really an ungrateful little shit (my words not His) for being so blind for all the ways I have been blessed.
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@Don Wei You are looking good dude You just lack that sharp/bad boy attitude to fit your style. @Rasheed what about this alien?
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@Rasheed lol she looks like a praying mantis. Alien freak
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Well, all you have to know for now is that coral is above turquoise. It's the point at which these models stop explaining things. I could say a bit about it but i won't for now. Turquoise probably isn't as out there as you think. I'm 28 and activated turquoise/8th circuit 4 years ago. Tom is 44, so that still makes him much less conscious than me comparatively, unless he happens to be way beyond turquoise. I read somewhere that 36 is the average age of self actualisation, which would be like moving beyond orange. But even when you move beyond it, it's still likely that it will remain the main part. I think the 9-5 work life keeps people from moving past orange until they retire, but people do still elevate their consciousness from time to time. I think. I don't know how far into development Tom would be. His centre of gravity might be significantly below turquoise, or it might be at turquoise. I don't know... listening to Tom talk about aliens makes it clear to me that he is consciously evolved. He seems to have a wider perspective than Joe Rogan at least, judging by what I've seen of the interview. Aliens are a high consciousness topic, really, or at least can be, and Joe seems like someone calling bullshit because he hasnt experienced it. Given that we already know Tom has a high place in government space/alien programs, it shouldn't be that surprising or comical if he has a high level of consciousness.
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Mafortu replied to Mafortu's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He has good messages, but then he claims earth is an angel academy for the "Pleiadian" alien civilization, and we are stuck here until we achieve oneness so we can graduate and ascend to a higher dimension. I enjoy his love seminars but the woo angel stuff rubs me the wrong way. I am more of a Rupert Spira kind of guy. -
Bit of a weird question. Im an ENFP and I met a cool ESFP chick online (both early 20s) and it was fun texting with her(I have known 3 ESFP girls and they all love texting more than average & blame me when I dont text more often lol), but when we went on a date, I felt really distant from her, like Im talking to an alien. There was no chemistry. She was a bit cold and careful, didnt show any attraction, I guess cuz shes has high standarts, she was beautiful. But she was respectful and she was interested in me. I couldn't really establish a man to woman conversation, I was even having a difficult time to establish a friend to friend conversation so I just started explaining my interests - self-actualization, happiness spectrum, meditation, viewing the world thru models, how math solves real world problems, how MMA works and why I like it. She was curious and tried to philosophize with me, which surprised me. But it was a cold intelectual talk. She liked fashion and travelling. And since it was such a cold interaction I couldnt really be that spontaneous or flirty and make jokes. I felt a bit under pressure. When we parted ways she said she never discussed such topics on a date(meaning they are not date topics) and that it was interesting nonetheless, I told her she shoudlnt discuss such things on a date and she agreed. My question is, if its true that ESFP and ENFP can't date, what is making us so distant? And whether it was actually not related to types, but rather she was shit testing me by being cold and I had to do some bold move? which I dont know how. I mean I dont know whats possible in this situation. Its not like im afraid of rejection, I dont know what can be done. Thanks.
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OMG! Haha, I did think someone will make a thread like ‘I feel like I can't relate to people my age after doing self development work since I didn’t worry about people judging my childish’. I don’t know, maybe it’s depending a lot on the personality but as an ENTP or some one can joke as Extremely-Nonsense-Thinking-Person, I did feel my interest to my nonsense could have never been introduced to someone as that nonsense could be a something-bad to my ‘mature’. But why? It’s just why?! Because someone could nickname on you as an alien or a crazy one? No, I share with them with all my love for them. I wish a lot that someone can recall back to that and think ‘how about personal development? I can ask this guy’. And that love of that conversation with some people that I am now so-called childish to ask them ‘What are you doing?’. With love, who cannot smile at you back and have a great conversation? Thanks for your thread.
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The whole alien thing Tom is doing is really cosmos centric. He also displays heavy blinking (lol) at times, that is hallmark of breaking through into coral.
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lmfao replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Spiral Wizard Around the online MBTI communities I has hanging around, there was this dude who would hop from server to server, finding places to troll but he always got banned extremely quickly. He had his own server though which I joined for a tiny bit to see what this guy was about. He was an odd fellow. I talked to him a bit on voice chat, he was a disgusting person. His version of having fun was pathological lying and provoking. I did manage to have a few "genuine" conversations with him. He's been diagnosed irl with ASPD, seemed like a sociopath for sure, probably a narcissist as well. My first convo was when I was talking to him because he said he was seeking a philosophy that matched his "naturally hateful way of being". I asked him why he thought this was a fundamental part of his nature, why he couldn't become kinder or calmer. He claimed he was incapable of otherwise, and that hate and aggression is his default. I got the feeling that most of what he was saying was bullshit excuses. I asked him if he's tried psychedelics. He said he's tried them before (I remember he tried LSD, cant remember what else) and they don't anything. I recommended maybe trying again but he was adamant they won't help. I don't know to what degree he was speaking the truth or making shit up here. I'm no psychedelic user, and I don't know how it would work on people like this. He started his own community/server so I got to see that side of him. He established cult-like dynamics. Now observations about him as a person in general. He enjoys and revels in making truth indistinguishable from falsehood. It was all just psychological warfare and pointless manipulation for whatever imaginary gains his petty mind conceived of. He was a control freak. In his conversations he needs a very particular power dynamic. The person he's talking to needs to be humble, respectful and somewhat meek. And he's the brash and aggressive one. And in reward for fulfilling this dynamic, he would metaphorically suck your dick by giving you compliments of being intelligent or ascended. He claimed all his compliments were genuine. More of that in the next paragraph now. There is one caveat to what I'm saying. I don't know how much of what he was doing was intentionally manipulative and deceitful. He tried to give off the image of someone who was brutally honest most of the time, and that the lying was all just him trolling and having fun, and it's your fault for being a sucker. And I think that image was at least partially true if not mostly true. He was certainly imitating (or actually was, rather than imitating) , to a degree, what self proclaimed (some of which are genuine and not just self-proclaimed) biological psychopaths on Quora exhibit. What I mean is that he gave off the vibe of someone very un-neurotic at times and there were times when he was serious that he felt "raw" and charismatic. He felt like the real deal. Extremely blunt, logical and pragmatic. Excellent at rational, matter of fact judgement at times. Good at seeing through inconsistencies of emotion/belief and calling out fake shit. First time I met him I felt a weird fear just from his manner of speech and energy. He felt like an alien, and there's the conflicting feelings of intrigue and fear someone feels when encountering a dangerous and unknown entity. In the end though, I mostly decoded it all. It wasn't that mysterious or amazing really. Psychopaths are just people with a smaller range of emotion, and it limits their perspective and what dimensions of consciousness they can explore and grasp. ---- I am currently in a place where I struggle to see low consciousness as being loving and as a part of reality to accept and "surrender" to. -
Part One Warning this will be a long thread Congrats to anyone who sticks it out till the end “I give out Atlas Shrugged as Christmas presents, and I make all the interns read it. Ayn Rand, more than anyone else did a fantastic job of explaining the morality of capitalism, the morality of individualism and this to me is what matters most” - Paul Ryan So I’ve got myself a notebook and pen, and I’m going to going through Leo’s new video in its entirety and posting my notes and thoughts as I do, I consider myself a libertarian. So as I go through each of Leo’s points I’m gonna make some notes on what I think, hopefully this is helpful to anyone reading, show my thought process too, as a libertarian, and hopefully get you guys insight and or meta insight on this as well. So far as I’m writing this I’m only 20 minutes into this 4 hour video and there’s already a lot to unpack. So I’ll keep watching the video, making notes and adding addendums to this post throughout the week. What I’m going do is when I write out Leo’s points I’m going to put them in italics, to separate from my own thoughts, and any questions that I have I’ll put in bold. Here’s the video :- 0:38 “Libertarianism is an ideology” Leo talks about dropping ideologies, inherent to ideologies is dogmatism and Leo compares ideology to a mind virus. Leo says that one should always think through their worldview, and that libertarianism and ideologies are a worldview. Leo says ideologies hold you back from advancement. Leo says that he’s made a list of epistemological and metaphysical problems with libertarian ideology that he will go into with greater detail. But his critiques aren’t coming from an ideological place. This reminds me of some Terence McKenna quotes “Ideology always paves the way toward atrocity” “I think ideology is toxic, all ideology. It’s not that there are good ones and bad ones. All ideology is toxic, because ideology is a kind of insult to the gift of human free thinking.” Ideology by its nature precludes its believer from believing its opposite, so you deny the opposites reality, ideology is firmly rooted in ego But isn’t everything I just said in the previous paragraph ideological, my ideology is that I don’t like ideology, ideology is a part of human experience and to deny that is to deny the truth, I don’t know it seems paradoxical to me. Question are these How can you decide to opt out of having an ideology? If you take an position that’s ideological. Leo’s says that his critiques aren’t coming from an ideological place but how? How can you me any ideology is wrong without you yourself having an ideology? Believing in right and wrong is a truth statement which in it of itself is ideological? Which Leo later attacks Libertarians later for, for being too idealistic (I’ll come back to this point later). Anyways Leo continues from 0:38 - 4:02 4:02 Libertarianism Defined Leo uses the wiki definition, here it is… “Libertarianism (from Latin: libertas, meaning "freedom"), or libertarism (from French: libertaire, meaning "libertarian"), is a political philosophy and movement that upholds libertyas a core principle.[1] Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing individualism, freedom of choiceand voluntary association.[2] Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing economic and political systems. Various schools of libertarian thought offer a range of views regarding the legitimate functions of state and private power, often calling for the restriction or dissolution of coercive social institutions.” Leo goes into talking about how there’s a range of thought among Libertarianism. In the degrees in which the support government. But goes into identify what he says are the core pillars which all libertarians share, Im gonna list what I’ve wrote down so far here, and the cover them point by point. There’s nothing to be said here as so far it’s just defining terms. Note I’ve only watched 20 mins of the video so far. Core Pillars 5:14 1# Most Libertarians believe freedom is an absolute good. 2# They treat freedom as an ultimate goal in it of itself. 3# That taxation is immoral. 4# Hold personal responsibility highly. (Cancer patient analogy) 6:51 5# Individualism is good and collectivism is bad 8:10 6# Monopoly of Force 10:16 7# Strong notion of inherent alien able rights 10:50 8# Remove Bureaucracy 11:05 9# Smaller government is better. 11:20 10# Unlimited free speech / market place of ideas 11:55 11# Work there way back from their ideals and principles Okay so there are the core pillars that Leo will address in greater detail further in the Vid. I’m going to address them point by point now. Before I do that I’m gonna list what Leo refers to Libertarianism as. 12:51 Libertarianism is… Immature Juvenile Naïve Arrogant Entitled Ahistorical Utopian Self Biased Ideological Masculine Biased Selfish Okey dokey So I’m now gonna cover these 11 point one by one
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I think I once had sex with an alien. That was pretty fucking weird.
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I generally think all the videos and talks of Leo are very inspiring and meaningful. I follow him for past three years and they helped me through some very dark times. Right now I see this forum especially the relationships one... Makes me feel scared somehow. Like are people on this platform too deep into self-actualization?? Some discussions sound very alien to me.. like there was someone writing they had sex with God? Like wtf is that?? If I go too deep into the practices, this is how it is going to be?? I am not judging any on it but would like to know what is it all about. Really curious!!
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Leo Gura replied to Yarco's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like a video game renderer, you create whatever is on screen right now. So right now you are creating the thought of an alien in some other galaxy. But if you get on a space ship and fly to that galaxy which you imagine, and meet that alien which you imagine, you will be creating that galaxy and that alien. Whatever you see is PRECISELY what you are creating. Nothing more, nothing less. Precisely! -
Nak Khid replied to Yarco's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
when he says "create" he means "imagine" , that these two words are the same My understanding of Leoist doctrine is nothing exists all is imaginary So you can imagine an alien in some other galaxy and it exists as this imagination thought and if you burn your hand on a stove the pain is imaginary as well and the stove and the flame, these are all the same, illusions of the mind, consciousness, created in that sense So if you are sitting in a room now and you look at a wall there is nothing on the other side of that wall unless you decide at that moment to imagine there is in which case it is an illusion of the moment. Your friends and family don't exist until they walk through the door and when they do they are just illusions. And a tree falling in the forest without you being able to hear it can't happen unless you are there or imagine it. If you are sitting in your house eating chocolate chip cookies , forests and trees don't exist unless you either go there and experience it or imagine them , both being different types of illusions not existing materially just as illusions -
Naviy replied to Yarco's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura This is what I'm trying to understand: 1) It is often mentioned that I create the Universe, the Moon and every creature and object and every hair on my body, and infinite amount of forms etc. While at the same time you say that: 2) "When you are aware of it, you create it" So something exists ONLY if I am aware of it? Did I create an alien in some other Galaxy? But I am not aware of the alien or any Galaxies. I am only aware of a thought about an alien. Which means that the alien exists only as this particular thought? But why then mention other creatures, objects, planets, humans and everything else that I am not aware of and say that I created them? -
Nak Khid replied to Yarco's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Buddhists may say that the idea of a creator God comes out fear and clinging . Buddhists don't concern themselves with Go. It is not their focus However Paramahansa Yogananda says quite the opposite: Everything is God. God is the Eternal Consciousness, unchanging and indivisible, in which the illusions of time (change) and space (division) present an infinite variety of forms interacting in a progressive mode of past, present, and future. God is love. When you feel unconditional love for all, that is God. In devotees, of course, you feel the love of God more manifest, but still you love all, because even though hidden, He dwells in all. Being infinite, God cannot be limited to any form, human or stone; yet He is manifest in all forms. One can rightly say that God manifests in every man as well as in great saints, for He is present in all. The kingdom of God is not in the clouds, in some designated point of space; it is right behind the darkness that you perceive with closed eyes. You have to awaken in order to perceive that God is everywhere and to realize that you have been dreaming. All of you are sitting here in this dream, and you are part of the dream. There is no way to find God's love other than to surrender to Him. When great love for God comes in your heart, you do not miss human love. Loving the Lord, you can never turn back to lesser loves. In Him you will find all the love of all hearts. You will find completeness. Everything that the world gives you and then takes away, leaving you in pain or disillusionment, you will find in God in a much greater way, and with no aftermath of sorrow. Don't try to know God first; love God first. Then He will tell you everything. Leo: the mind of God feels like... pure, abstract, unstructured consciousness. Utterly impersonal and alien. Completely unlimited. -
Gesundheit replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@QandC I experience being alien to this world. Everything feels weird and new. A great sense of wonder arises. I feel disidentified with everything, like I'm a newborn, like how could any of this be possible?! How could I be here?! And how did things get to this?! It feels weird to have thoughts. The mind becomes spontaneously still, yet the sense of wonder remains. I realise that all the stories explaining existence are futile and nowhere near true. No positive or negative emotions. Just neutral. Is this or something similar the mental state you're talking about? -
Call Me Whatever posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I just watched this documentary and it dovetails nicely into spiritual work, specifically, the connection between spirituality and contacting alien intelligences. -
@Nak Khid that's an interesting quote from Leo. Where did you get that from? What was the context? I actually thought maybe my solution was TO take psychedelics, rather than a break from them. ? well you're doing it pal. There's lots of room for misunderstanding and interpretation in communication. If you were born into space invaders, and shot aliens your entire life, survived and persisted through your ability to shoot aliens, all of your friends survived based off how well they shot aliens, you were taught in school on the best ways to shoot aliens and the elites were the ones who could shoot aliens the best and the poor were the ones that couldn't shoot aliens that well. Then you somehow got into this human life where there's eating, sleeping, fucking, would you have the same view about your space invader friends and society? Would you still place a lot of importance and value in shooting aliens after seeing that shooting aliens isn't the only universe that exists and the only way to survive? Would you still place a lot of importance of not dying in space invaders? Being scared shitless of an alien landing on the ground? Would you even care? What if you did Leo's life purpose course on the best way to ace shooting all the aliens? Would you still care?
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The thing that drives my life forward, that motivates me, is this sense that I know what I want, what path I'm on, and what I'm doing. But in reality, when I'm honest with myself once in a while, the realisation comes about that I don't really know what I'm doing, or where I'm going. And I have no idea of the substance of what I want. I really don't know why I'm here, and why we are all doing this. People have told me over and over. I've heard all the reasons. Some from culture, some from spiritual teachers. But I don't feel it. This place just feels so alien to me. Its just weird as fuck. Why do we need to drink water? Its so weird. Why do we need to eat? Its so weird. Why do we need to have sex? Its so weird. There's a trillion things that could have been created instead of eating, drinking and fucking. Procreation could have been looking at each other with different smiley faces, or cubes bouncing around, or different patterns of light. But instead its rubber our bodies against each other. Why those things? Why is that the way of surviving? What's the point of even doing these things? Why is it so important? Its not important to Nothingness. And yet here we all are, taking these things with deep importance and value. People's values are also weird. They want things which I don't want. They believe in things which I don't believe in. I totally gave up on feeling a connection with people's personalities ages ago, because we diverge so much that its literally impossible. On a metaphysical level I can connect with them, connect with them as MYself. But not on a personal level, that's definitely gone. I don't even know if they exist on a personal level, and it feels like they don't. I've never seen their soul before... which just adds to the weirdness that I find myself in, why the hell don't they exist? What are they? People look like pure aliens to me, like I just came from another universe and were dropped into this one. I feel like I'm in some alien minecraft. Where aliens are doing weird shit, placing importance on things that aren't important, and doing stuff that makes no sense. Even racism feels weird to me. Fighting over skin colour? Its like watching grass fighting over different shapes of their tips and making massive collective social dynamics and patterns happen from it. Its just so fucken weird. I just don't know what they are doing. War on drugs? so much turbulence from consumption? Have humans sat back for a minute and even thought about how weird consumption is? How we have mouths that we put stuff into it? Like that's just weird. And there they are fighting over as aspect of it... Death is so weird. So much turbulence around forms changing from one thing to another. And I don't ever remember a time when I did feel like this place was normal. The past feels imaginary, it feels like all of my past and history was created a second ago, and never happened. So was I ever normal? Was this place ever normal? Maybe it was never normal? Maybe I really am an alien from another universe? That possibility certainly feels more real than the idea that I'm a human. This possibility, this particular form, is just one out of a billion. And everyone is taking it as if its absolute, as if its the only way things can be. Consumption through the mouth is the absolute way to grow. Racism is the absolute way social problems occur. Living in a society is the absolute way of living. This universe is the only universe that exists... And all of my motivation comes from that absolute belief, that this universe is the only universe, and is the only way things can be. I eat because eating is the absolute way to grow. Its the only way to grow! No other way... Other universes don't grow in different ways... of course not! This is the only way to grow... And I just feel stuck because, everything I got out of Leo's LP course was based on this belief that this universe is the only one that exists. And all of my passion and drive and vision all comes from that. And it feels super, ridiculously insincere. Because deep down I know its not true. Deep down, I don't feel like doing anything, deep down I feel like the universe already has a plan and a vision, and my little petty ones are just distractions from the big universe's plans. So I'm in a conflict, I've got lots of social conditioning telling me to survive and be passionate about something, then I've got my inner muse telling me its all bullshit. And I don't know how to move forward.