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Somebody say.. Sadhguru's an alien? I knew it!

I think it's going to be Alien Love, or at least I really really hope so

Carl's just a bad person. It's far from my best work. It's impressive you recognize the value in my original idea, maybe you're an ENTP like me (or maybe just INFP). But your mini-model is overly simplistic, and just wrong in some places. Just as much Orange. Fashion and Instagram are very Orange and Se. Not Si specifically. Sensing in general. And also Ni. "Faith" is a very Ni thing. Yeah, but it's wrong to think it's limited to that. Learning is most strongly associated with Te. Going to lessons, having a teacher, reading books, etc. are all Te. Also it depends on which slot the function is in. Ti1 will actively try to come up with answers. Ti2 will just provide support and fact-check. Ti3 and Ti4 won't really care about learning at all. Turquoise is the integration of all functions. But sure, Ni kinda fits if you had to choose one function to represent it. What? The now is most strongly associated with children. Children are around Purple/Red/Blue. Not Tier 3 which doesn't even exist yet. To make a stage, you need enough people to form a "stereotype" for it. So not only is there no person at Coral, but even if there was there couldn't be! If an advanced alien came here, even they wouldn't be Coral because it's a human model. This is kinda funny. I love Orange vs Green fights.

I've been on the forum basically since the start and I think at the beginning, no one really knew what shape it would take and what kind of people it would attract. So it definitely interested me to have a community of people interested in talking about consciousness and non-duality and looking at society from a different perspective. Before i get into my criticisms I want to give some positives, its really great that you can meet and potentially build relationships with people interested in this stuff, theres not a lot of people that are that I come across in my life anyway, so this is cool. Also a lot of great resources get posted which can lead to going down new paths and learning new ideas. Now for the fun part... My main criticism is that I think Leo underestimates how much foundational growth people need to do before they start trying to realise things like god-consciousness and I believe this forum encourages them to bypass basic work they need to do in the real world which will help them grow. Most people come on here I believe because in some way they arent fulfilled by life, theyre looking for a way out. I would say the demographic on here is relatively young lets say 20s, in which case its not people who have lived 50 years and become disillusioned with their path, its those that dont want to face the everyday struggle of looking after yourself, working, going into the world. It can be a daunting prospect, especially if you have unaddressed traumas or parents that have coddled you or youre always online and have never really experienced life. Its natural that if you dont feel prepared you will look for a workaround, an easier way out, this is the human condition. I believe enlightenment is being unconsciously sold as this workaround, if you are looking for a way out in the way ive outlined, and you stumble upon Leos videos and hes talking about ultimate bliss and how it can be realised, something will hit home because there is truth in what Leo says, but you will only be attempting to bypass the hard but essential parts of life. I think people have the idea that, if i get enlightened everything else will fall into place, to me this is fantasy, it does not work like this. Maslows Hierarchy as well as Ken Wilburs model, which states you should 'grow up, clean up, wake up then show up'. No one puts waking up first, even spiral dynamics requires that you go through the lower stages and first and get to healthy versions of them. Because of the nature of any forum, ego does come into play and i think people tend to peg themselves higher on SD, but again this is just another form of bypassing, there is demonisation sometimes of blue and orange but i dont think people realise how important these are to incorporate for your life, its very important that you have structure, discipline, you know how to make money etc. I believe most people on the forum arent content because these things are not in order, its nothing to do with them not being enlightened. You will be surprised at how mch your state can change once you take responsibility for yourself, talk to more people, cook for yourself, workout etc. People who have never attempted to talk to the opposite sex, had a job, lived by themselves etc in my opinion should not be worried about Alien love or the highest levels of awakening. The reality is they want to do all those things and more but for whatever reason they dont feel they can, their striving for higher levels of consciousness is just avoidance and i think until they sort themselves out spirituality will almost be a means to an end. If you notice a lot of the people that I wouldve considered quite healthy higher stage people have actually left the forum or post very rarely and its just because of where the forum actually is. Im not criticising anyone for being at any level, thats part of the journey but i think its a bit of an illusion that this is a high level forum. I think this forum is people on their journey, working it out but have been seduced by the idea that they can be awakened mainly through psychedelics and will be able to skip big chunks of the journey. Im not saying that you shouldnt be interested in non-duality or Leos ideas, they of course can help and give you a new perspective on the world. What im saying is that dont expect them to be a way out of anything. Take joy in normal life, dont try to escape, level up in every aspect.

Fuck it. Maybe he is some Alien zodiac. How does it matter?

Last time I heard about Leo he was having all kinds of awakenings and thinking he was Alien God. I also notice no new videos. Wondering if he is okay?

whatever there "is" it cannot be spoken of really. I mean.. yes you could, and you will. but the universe or what seems to be for "self" >>> only pure experience, that phenomenology may keep talking. ( and even me describing anything is rape of what truly is ) because what truly is, is absolutely alien. Every concepts, every models is just fantasy, game. but ultimately there is only game, at least to my level of current experience. and you'll keep constructing and building sandcastles. but most people just really agree on sandcastles. reality is only sandcastles, but they may be beautiful and some of them can be used to keep playing the game. you can ground yourself in permanent not knowing. ( But even that could still be a religious dichotomy ) Also there is no problem with having faith/religion, unless you want to create one < maybe a practice : you can be absolutely "free constructing" just put black on the white paper, throw at it things, build a thing or don't even try, what do you see ? the biggest mindfuck is that, dichotomy can be very functional and story can be absolutely REAL. ultimately I believe the nature of reality is a phenomenology unfolding infinitely ( an infinite movie ), the game of deconstructing is also just an happening, a little sandcastle story within the whole story. Reality is a 5D movie happening to yourself ? All of this is maybe not true

Find out on the next episode of “Leo: Awakening to Alien Love”

Our culture has become so warped and degraded from technology and toxic aspects of feminism (yes just because it's progressive doesn't mean there aren't downsides) that sadly something like pick-up is a necessary evil for a lot of guys. From what I've learned I've come to think of it like chemotherapy, it sucks in a lot of ways but sometimes it's the only option - and it CAN be effective. It is what it is. I hate to be one to generalize, but on this topic in particular I've observed the vast majority of women simply aren't aware there are actually two phases connecting with the other sex. The attraction phase and the relationship phase. How the man behaves in each of these phases are usually completely different and as if he is a separate person. If he doesn't learn the techniques or doesn't have the natural social aptitude to navigate the attraction phase there is ZERO chance for a relationship or intimacy. That's basically what pick-up is for, a brute force way to get better at the attraction phase. An amazing guy that would be a great partner could be right in front of your eyes, but if he fails at any point in the attraction phase he is fucked, he'll be put in the friend zone and never come out. While scumbags who have no intention of a deep relationship will swoop you off your feet because they know how to attract The thing is, most women don't even realize there are two separate phases because they don't have to do any of the work approaching. As a woman all you have to do is wear make up to look pretty and be somewhat physically fit and you'll have hundreds of men approaching that you just have to sort and pick your favorite ones from. Any decent looking woman reading this that's honest with themselves knows this. You don't have to do the attracting work, the expectation is on the man to take approach and initiate 100% of the time. If all men decided simotaneously not to make the first move anymore, the human race would go extinct lol. When women rarely do make the first move, they are usually so bad at it or it's too subtle for most guys to understand what's happening. Women don't know they are the gatekeepers for the relationship phase, and that's the only phase they know since they get to skip right to it from their POV. They are blissfully and innocently ignorant (or malicious) about the games they play and the hoops they make men jump through in the attraction phase that relationship to form, then unfortunately get hurt or confused when the guy turns out to not be suitable for something long term, or not the same person they were initially attracted to. Sadly women are attracted to and reward a lot of the wrong things, so here we are! For any women reading this once you become aware there are two phases and not just one it will be difficult for you to get burned by men again. It will cut the learning curve for finding the right guy by many years. (HINT he is probably in the friend zone where you left him ) Just as a side note from my personal experience as a guy. I'd say I'd pass as good looking (you judge), I'm athletic, I have hobbies, moderately successful, I'm ethical, I'm a firefighter/EMT, I'm sober, no red flags/anger problems, I've been called charming and calm. Yet in my 29 years alive guess how many women have explicitly expressed romantic intent to me where they made the first move BEFORE I did? I can literally count it on my one hand. Yet just to get to the success/experience level I'm at now I've had to initiate and make the first move with probably close to 1000 women at this point. I can't speak for other guys but I imagine they can resonate with this. It's the unique problem of being a man that women can't begin to comprehend, which is why something like pick-up seems so alien and absurd. Starting any romantic connection is something women don't even think about, because they don't have to do it. Opportunities just show up in front of them and they just have to decide to fall into it. It's the same reason men have a hard time sympathizing with the physical danger of assault and rape that women have to deal with. They are unique issues because while we are both human, we are different and not equal. This post ending up being quite long so I'll finish with the most important point and brutal truth; UNDERSTAND that if a guy is lazy and doesn't do the work to approach, initiate, and attract women he could literally go his ENTIRE life a virgin and nothing will happen for him. The stakes are that steep - which is why pick-up exists. It's filling the void because our culture is no longer fostering an environment where men can learn this naturally. I imagine Leo keeps talking and making this apart of his content because he went through his own journey with this and wants to share it.

I have a prediction that Leo will become the new Nahm in the next following months. At least no more rodent or alien trip reports. At last, he'll become the very thing he tried to destroy >:)

I don't want to seem narcisistic to you good people, but I have nowhere where I can share my experience and ask this question. A few weeks ago after doing Kriya I started to look at my hands and noticed that they look sort of alien. Really foreign and strange, as I was looking at them for the first time. And one day I just observed them and understood that these hands cannot be "Me". Yes the hand is Mine, I can control it, but what I'am cannot be the hand. And then I looked more into it and observed that if "I" am not my hand, "I" also am not the body. And my mind freaked out so much that I had to stay in place and observe what is going on. And I realized that the ego was never even there. I have grew so much consciousness that it broke through the illusion which the mind had created. The thing that shocked me the most was that I was not on any substance, I was sober. It was a super scary experience. So a couple of weeks have passed and I still cannot say that I'am the body. I'am way more! And in those couple of weeks my life changed. I'am so happy now with what I have and do not need anything to make me happier. The way I live my life is no longer around my body (ego). Priorities have changed, thinking has changed, purpose has changed, the way I talk with people has changed, I no longer want to speak about my life with them because I have no need to tell them what am I up to and it's way more interesting to hear about what they are up to, how was their weekend etc. I feel that I'am in such peace with reality, being in the moment for what it is just noticing other people which are still stuck in the ego minds trap. I no longer care about my body appearance, but I still manage my body well. I'am no longer attached to what other people think of me because I know what I'am. Living has become a blessing. Every day is just so interesting and I'm always waiting what reality will bring me, be it a hard challenge or a lovely surprise I'll take everything GOD can throw at me. And I often just cry in joy, even this morning when I had my breakfast I took my tea it was warm in my hand and that made me cry because of how lucky I'am to even get the opportunity to have a warm cup of tea. So do I fit the Enlightenment description? And please can someone articulate to me what actually is the Spiritual Enlightenment ? And whats next? What do I "do" now?

@Loveeee if you can find leos blog he did recently this can help you. It’s the one about when he discovered that he is an alien intelligence that is somewhat like the Sid from ice age.

@GalynaWishing you well too. That's not my take that's what neuroscience says. No I never was an neuron let alone Alien God but I was Infinite Love.Something I want to forget about and don't go into madness again.Rationality is bliss.

I was pondering at how it's likely although maddening to say it does seem inevitable that we are all going to move towards singularity/unity of Self through transcending our biological form specifically the neurological hindrances that prevent us from seeing reality as it is or enlightenment with technology. As in at some point in time we are going to be able to bridge nueroscience and technology to remain and abide in a percieving reality in the constant stream of unification, non-duality. The question I have is how is such a transition possible, this kind of technology won't exist until the right kind of people are at the forerunner of development as the case is now the priority for technological development is driven by egotistical concerns of security. So moving towards singularity and the transcendence of our experience of suffering we already have had to reach a point a portion of society has attained to enlightenment that is capable of influencing society itself. Then that transition as I said will likely be through some kind of broadcast or transmission (not the energetic tranmission in Kriya for example) in the neurological structure, it sounds almost alien and terrifying to say, where there is an ability to merge technology with the immaterial reality, but even so that just contradicts itself - how can one merge material with immaterial? it's rather pointing to being able to manipulate the nuerological structure with technology for anyone to again, abide in total cessation of cognitive dissonance. Imo it is humanities greatest task at hand, but can it even be done?

How could we expand spiral dynamics to make both lower and higher stages? Lower stages could include behaviors of various animals, such as monkeys. Higher stages could include the greatest sages and mystics. Not Alan watts, Eckhart Tolle or Mooji. But rather what we may imagine Christ or Buddha were like. (Of course that would be difficult) I think one of the main things limiting spiral dynamics is that it’s only a map of human development. How about we include lower purely survival based stages? Very animalistic stages with no higher functions whatsoever. If anyone knows about animal psychology, you could give your ideas on this. Also we could add alien intelligence and love at the higher end of the spiral if @Leo Gura ever goes into more depth about what he means by that. If anyone has any idea what Leo means by alien love and how we could fit it into spiral dynamics, then share that.

I have done that.. Compared to what? Isn't it all relative? Maybe in comparison to a alien or something I'm a fly. I have already tried psychedelics.. Anything would be easier than what you suggested.. Maybe in a future life.

In times of current, which things seem to be becoming alien to most of us: I posit to the gura that is Leo: is there a higher goal for actualization in this realm or the next, familiar or alien, that supercedes Unity? do you concur @Leo Gura as a tautology Unity = Truth

We are the most advanced being on earth as far as we know. Unless there are aliens that aren't in perceivable range of our 5 senses here with us. I'm sure many alien species exist outside earth that are far more awake than humanity is at the current moment.

They are so ugly! Wtf is this visage of theirs? A nose protruding from their face? Is this not foreign? A mouth that opens up to allow stuff to be consumed like a trash compactor...what is that? Two circles above the "nose" that allow one to have "vision"....what is that? Is this not some alien thing? Look at their "face" in the mirror...what is this stuff growing on the top? Is it called hair? What is the stuff growing beneath the ",mouth"? What are the two orifices on each side of their "head" ? They take in something "known" as sound. So Jesus,, what the fuck are they? It's so...well it's so goddamn - alien! Have you ever seen anything that looks like this before? It's so weird! What's even weirder is that some of these alien beings are considered "handsome" or more appealing than others? Why is that? Aren't they all just so grotesque and something out of a science fiction book? I mean really - that snout right in the middle of their face says it all! We have truly discovered aliens!! For the very first time! They exist.

@Leo Gura thanks Leo. Do you still look like an Alien Leo?

Naa there’s dropping in a few nuggets of bullshit here and there, but then this stuff he’s on about changes, or maybe not changes, but adds volumes to his teachings. To throw something the size of these new claimed breakthroughs in as bullshit, would turn away any serious truth seeker from his work. It’d completely defeat the object. I’m not claiming I believe this alien god is the case, as I don’t believe anything I am yet to experience. But I am open to the possibilities, I’m also skeptical until I personally directly experience any form of awakening myself. From Leo’s perspective though, it’s certainly not bullshit. Possibly misinterpreted, or possibly as true as it gets, I honestly do not know.

i don't think it was meant as a teaching, he doesn't even know himself what it was or what it is. It was just his experience that he described. I don't know why people are looking at this as a teaching, dmt entities are common and it doesn't mean they are god. In Leo's perfeception it was powerfull so he probably decided to call it god. I think everyone should stop making thread about this alien stuff and talking about it , it's turning into some kind of an cult.

People need teachers we're they're at on a relative level. It's like a noob listening to Leo talk about alien consciousness who hasn't even had a mystical experience, It's only going to add conceptual baggage that elongates the awakening process. Angelo dilluro is another great teacher for this. There is absolutely nothing I have heard from Fred Davis that will pollute the mind more than Leo talking about his awakening experiences. You realize most people here don't even use psychedelics right?

I have been thinking a lot lately about the technology of Alien Spaceships, and since they travel faster than the speed of light and also are anti-gravity, I thought their entire manufacturing process could even start in higher frequencies/planes. Frequencies so high that go beyond the physical reality as we know it. And since all planes are deeply interconnected and correspond to each other, I thought it would be cool to start that process by creating a Drone in the mind field and programming it with the mind such that it would correspond to both lower and higher planes at will. The tragedy here is that, even though at higher levels of consciousness the boundaries between mind at matter collapse, we live in a world where there are not many people who would be willing to have their minds stuffed out, and this technology could be an antidote to that.

@Swarnim Your welcome. Thank you for your open mind It’s not really a physical connection at all. It’s more of a mental/spiritual connection of identity. You could say it’s dissolved by observation or simply by increasing your degree of consciousness. Which also involves a shift in values beyond human values and a shift in identity beyond human identity. A strong connection would be a traditional human or normie as some like to call them. They are very heavily identified with being a human and are greatly involved in human affairs. They are quite mesmerized by the dream and strongly tethered to this world through their thoughts and beliefs systems. A light connection would be closer to the mystic or sage. They are less in their body and the dream is more wispy for them. Their identity is expanded and the tethers to humanity are more dissolved. When the connection is gone then you’re dead ha ha. The dream is melted away entirely and you cannot directly interact with it anymore. Dead people don’t have much of an identification with humanness at all ? Even advanced mystics that have supposedly “detached entirely” are still hanging on by a thin string If their consciousnesses vehicle (which we would normally ascribe human characteristics to) is alive and well and able to interface with our society. What I meant by that bit you quoted is that certain extreme spiritual practices like the ones I am describing( I refer to it as Singularity Shamanism) leave one consistently in a very radical state. Your center of gravity then becomes so different from most humans that it becomes hard to relate socially, difficult to run your business and even just to play the survival game. The jellyfish cares greatly about connecting with humans and helping humans connect with each other. Although its methods of connection are so alien that none consciously recognize it and this type of connection most likely won’t help with financial success, social status or even long term survival chances. You end up being more connected with humanity’s subconscious, super conscious, hidden suffering that no one cares to discuss, and everyone’s transcendental infinite identity. All the while being greatly disconnected from the surface personalities of the conscious mind. In many ways this makes your relationship with strangers equal to those of your own immediate family ? One of the primary values of nearly all humans is to master the survival game. When the value structures within consciousness evolve past this then survival isn’t seen to be an issue at all or even important/necessary. It then takes immense work and constant effort to stay grounded and to just stick around and not float away haha. It comes at you from all sides, not just mentally and spiritually but also physically. Each wave of evolving values leads to greater interconnections being made in the mind and requires an increased consciousness current flowing through the bodily system to be able to maintain this expanded viewpoint. If one crosses the threshold of having more in common with alien jellyfish values than human values, there will naturally be an enormous consciousness current to support this, Which appears to put an intense strain upon the human nervous system; overloading it like sending a lightning bolt through a lightbulb. Also I’m not really talking about a burned out hippie who is voluntarily taking too much acid and smoke too much weed ha ha. It’s that somehow the default structures of the brain have changed and created a circumstance where the pineal gland is pumping out like 5 to 10 times the usual amount of DMT. It’s not trippy as much as it is pristinely clear and luminously lucid.(I did this accidentally by the way. If it were up to me I would’ve taken it slower but the jellyfish had other plans ?) Also I remembered another film that portrays the human Hyper-nova very well. “Lucy” With Scarlett Johansson. It’s pretty accurate with the visuals but also the thought process and emotions that come up during this event. I seem to be experiencing something similar although not quite to that extreme. ☮️?✨