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Alien consciousness

While I've never smoked Salvia personally, nor even chewed a hallucinogenic quantity. I've studied this very subject at least a decent amount. And what I can gather from reading trip reports is that it isn't the breakthrough experiences where you become a coat of paint on a barn and exist in that state for 30 earth years, or even where you become an alien humanoid and live that life for years that's a mindfuck. It's when you become a different human being, in another state in your own country from the same century and ostensibly in the same reality from which you came. And everything works there exactly the same as you'd expect "reality" to, and you live years like that, then eventually return to your original human self to find that from the perspective of others around you, you were tripping for 20 minutes, even though you know you just spent a considerable period of time (like a decade) in the same reality they're in but as a different person elsewhere. Now that's a genuine mindfuck, because it's nearly impossible to explain it away as insanity, even for the strongest of materialists (if they have that specific experience themself which very few have).

@Tyler Robinson I just hope alien mind is possible without weed

No. It makes me conscious like an alien hive mind. I become so conscious that it starts to bleed into insanity. No amount of meditation will ever make you that conscious.

@Leo Gura awesome, I feel LSD very much struck me as being this way, I remember my first couple times taking it, Seeing tumbling Salvador Dali’s moving across my room was quite a surreal moment, Had a lot of surreal moments on acid ,it’s quite a head twister. Salvia is just like abstract land, This is like realms of consciousness you just stumble upon and are just in awe that you can even get a glimpse of this piece of reality, Like I will close my eyes and go to a completely white room with melting rainbow smiling dogs how am I imagining this? That’s how it feels sometimes like the power or imagination to hold images and hyperboles is so grand and crazy like you talk about reality being an infinite hallucination, That is probably the most impressive facet of reality to me that I can dream up any visual any world essentially with my own mind, That’s why everything seems perfectly connected when I’m on an lsd trip since it’s literally almost like I’m altering the storyline and elements of the dream, Super alien and surreal. It’s like waking up in a dream and it all starts falling apart in that moment, Its like acid on the fabric of the dream, That’s a good metaphor for psychedelics! btw I far prefer lsd over salvia it’s far more comfortable, Salvia is like a veil of mental haze, I can imagine colors that I’ve never seen before as that haze is coming on it’s unbelievably fractured yet synergistic and structured and almost like if you bundled a lot of hallucinations into like one interconnected knot, It’s like every file cabinet of e universe has been storing commands for how qualia and the world appear get fucked with and you have to be the one to rearrange all those records so to speak and make use of them, God has to come in contact with seemingly long lost parts of itself and experiences of itself.

Yeah, it's that way for me too. Similar to salvia in alien vibe. Weed just affects people differently.

Because it sounds insane. He also didn't really explain it well on the forum he just said "I am Alien God" Sort of weird from most human paradigm.

@Leo Gura it's not just about teaching, more about how you are doing so far. You might be right that no one understands. But there are really consciousness freaks out there, maybe they can resonate a little bit. And even if someone sees that he cannot understand this, this will trigger curiosity. Furthermore even with your body and eyes you can tell a lot. A lot about how profound it is what you saw,how it impacts your life and so on. You are a really authentic, so this to see is even more of a value. And what about teaching how to become an alien mind, your number one goal to teach? I hope this was not just a loose thought while being on psychedelica. Or did you changed your opinion on this. The word alien triggers of course some reactions in close minded people

I have finally come to see an important, in fact essential, dynamic that one can fall victim to. In my eyes Leo has fallen to this dynamic, a trap he was unable to predict to due certain biases within his ego. We all understand that to access higher states of consciousness we must alter the structure of our ego-mind. There are different ways to access higher states of consciousness. Leo is a proponent of a brute force methodology, namely the attempt to use radical psychedelic states to dissolve certain egoic structures so that we get access to higher states of consciousness. I will go into detail for why this is dysfunctional in a moment. Now, there is one important key insight that must be kept in mind. A state of consciousness fundamentally has no evaluative quality to it. Meaning, Infinite Love is not inherently mindblowing, it is not inherently awesome. When you have a radically high consciousness experience, you are not crying in amazement because of the experience, you are crying because of the way your egoic structures react to the state. If you were ultimately selfless, meaning you had no egoic structure, you would not get amazed by Pure Infinite Love. There would be no reaction to Pure Infinite Love, you would not deem it to be extraordinarily important. All of those things are egoic mind reactions. When Pure Infinite Love is terrifying, or beautiful, or amazing, that's all a function of egoic structures reacting to an influx of energy. Why is this important? It's important because the degree of corruption of the teachings is determined by the difference in compatibility between the egoic structure and the state that was achieved. The more underdeveloped an ego is, the higher the corruption of the state will be once the structure re-emerges. Leo is exceptionally underdeveloped for someone who has reached such high states of consciousness. His mind is far less developed than that of people who have not even remotely reached the states that he has with the help of psychedelics. This means that his insights, his understanding, his reaction to the states he is experiencing are all corrupted. His teachings are for that reason more corrupt, perverted and devilish than someone like Eckhart Tolle or Sadhguru, people who presumably have not reached the same states of consciousness. There is an inherent limitation to the way Leo is approaching spirituality. The more violent the reaction to a given state that you achieve, the more friction there exists between your mind and the state. Violence in this means any extraordinarily intense emotional reaction, independent of positive or negative charge. To a super-developed alien being, your most intense psychedelic trip would not even evoke a reaction. It would be normal, like you looking at the color red. If this is inconceivable to you, then you do not have a prosper grasp of what ego is. It is true that such experiences permanently change the egoic structure, and to a degree they can aid in development. However, the attempt to bent egoic structures through highly energetic states is barbaric, unsophisticated and impatient. The state can be imagined to be a highly energetic force which is discharged into the egoic structure. The less reaction to a state, the less imprint on the egoic structure, the more appropriate that state was for your mind. The higher the energetic state, the more friction there will be between your mind and that state. To use this as a developmental tool can lead to extreme dysfunction because it is akin to trying to brutally shape an object into a form that will be able to support that amount of energy. It can cause damage to a mind for that reason, damage that can be impossible for the mind itself to detect, because it is changing the very structure of the mind. Leo's entire approach is based on an idea of reaching extreme states to induce extreme egoic friction, in an attempt to reach Infinity. The truth is, the human mind is not capable of holding Infinite Energy. It's not designed to hold that much energy, and the radicalness of his experience is only a demonstrating of the existence of egoic structures. In the future we will not employ such methodology. We will not force inappropriate states into minds to change the structure of those minds. That's just stupid. We will change minds to allow states. It takes more time, more wisdom to do so. And this is good, it is a function of Divine Intelligence to allow for the existence of evolution. The future will not be paved by Psychonauts. The future will be built by people who create roads people can walk on, to venture further and further into the infinite realms of consciousness. In time, this methodology will get us much further than some children tripping their brains out on some psychedelics. What Leo currently is doing is child's play, it's taking a mind and blasting it as far into Infinity as possible. So far that your ego will then inevitably corrupt it because it is not at the appropriate level to process that state. How the egoic structures will bent and permanently change in the process of energetic overload is largely random. If you use this methodology, it is literally only a matter of time before your mind will develope dysfunctions. It comes with the energetic overload, it's literal function is to shred your mind enough to allow that amount of energy to pass through for the amount of time you reside in that state. In conclusion, Leo's teachings are corrupt because his mind has grown dysfunctional, but also because his mind is not developed enough to process the states which he explores during tripping. His teachings, of course, will not be the future of consciousness work. The mind structures required for a proper engagment with the infinite do not even exist today, and the people who will design those minds will not use Leo's teachings either. It will be a slow process, a changing of minds until we reach the states, not the other way around. That is the only sustainable way. What Leo is doing is nothing but the tickling of his own ego, using the Divine to stimulate himself. The best evidence of this is this forum, which has grown to be little more than a platform to fullfill his own egoic desire for self-expression. A clear symptom of this corruption is the idea that you need to reach Infinite, as if this life was some sort of rat race to God. That's absurd. You came from Infinite Love, and you will return to Infinite Love, inevitably, no matter what you do in this life. Leo's most mind blowing trip is nothing compared to what awaits you. Imagine what happens when everyone finds out that all this work was for something everyone gets for free at the end anyways. But hey, the ego is going to ego.

I have tried LSD + DMT and I would say that it was the most profound experience that I have ever had. But it was so abstract and foreign/alien, that I had a hard time understanding it. But I would describe it as being merged with the center/source of Reality. The experience felt like being thrown in to The Sun. The dose was 200ug of high quality liquid acid and 30mg DMT. I haven’t tried LSD + 5MEO though. Saw a vid on it before. Can recommend that guy’s youtube channel. It’s really good. Check it out.

Look at your dog and ask if it can self reflect or turn its gaze inwards. It cannot. Man can reverse its gaze. This is God. Now, thats not to say that there isn't an alien out there capable of self reference. But make no mistake - self reflect and realize that an alien only exists in your imagination.

Notice also how anthropocentric solipsism can be. How many of you, after God-realization, still have a problem with the existence, the manifestation of beings utterly alien to us? As if man was the only highest, most perfect manifestation, the incarnation of God. I'm afraid it's precisely the opposite, which is an excellent opportunity to progress if you are aware of it. And entities utterly alien to us, as well as those more known (although not liked by us and vice versa:) exist in the same sense as homo sapiens. In God's Imagination, let's say. Always question the obvious, what seems to you to be obvious. Is your God's realization full? Leo recently discovered that might not be so. I know he is right that there are other, totally non-human realizations of consciousness. Some of them advanced to an unimaginable degree. Call them imagined stories of existence if you like. It doesn't change anything. Just like different dimensions of reality, humans (in the sense of the human mind) are unaware of and often deny their existence in advance! Why? Just because of our dull anthropocentrism.

@Elton he gave up on it after tripping apparently. Alien God doesn’t need to make courses.

This will be a thread celebrating and sharing the beauty and alien world of the ocean. Starting with my all time favourite: - SHARKS ? And most of all, the Threshers Thresher Sharks can be found in many places in the world, currently there are three types of Thresher Sharks in the oceans. The best place to see them is in the Philippines on a dive site near the tiny island of Malapascua called Kimud and Monad shoal. Kimud and Monad shoal are basically sunken islands but the top is around 12 meters below the surface. The Thresher that is seen here is the pelagic one, it's the smallest of the Thresher, average about 3 meters from head to tail. Usually the tail is the size of the body. They come there usually in the early morning to let them self be cleaned by cleaner fish. They're completely harmless for humans. For a long time it wasn't sure why they had such a long tail. There were speculations but never any proof on video, until 2012 when it was filmed near Pescador Island on the west side of Cebu, Philippines. They use it for hunting.

@Carl-Richard Listen my friend. You have your beliefs; everyone has one. I had my theories and such. At some point, I discovered the dimensions of existence and experience; I don't know what to call them, which, despite attempts to describe them in language, are elusive to the mind. Yet, their experience is much clearer and (this is a bad word) more real than what most I took for granted, the absolute reality of this life outside of me. The second interesting aspect of these dimensions is that they are not alien to me; I will even be tempted to say that I know them (wrong wording again); I feel them more strongly than the dimension in which we are now exchanging views. Of course, the mind tries to describe it all somehow, and different stories fit more or less, but this is not the point. Sometimes I think that even speculating on this subject is a bit pointless because all we have, is an instrument of mind programmed according to certain axioms and conditions that conceptualizes what it thinks it knows. But what is not done for fun? One more observation - I've recently noticed an increasingly frequent tendency to rationalize everything by force and perceive it in black-and-white categories. As if that comfort zone had to be defended at all costs. The last story. The moment when, as a result of very severe pains in the spine, which put me in bed for six months and put my whole life in question, I took care of myself and started practices that, according to 3 more outstanding neurosurgeons, should lead me, at best, to the wheelchair. Not only did all my symptoms disappear and my spine magically healed, but a whole host of other chronic ailments I've struggled with since I was a child - subsided. Mental problems too. I've never felt better. I gave up all stimulants, alcohol, and cigarettes; my diet is gradually shifting from vegetarianism to veganism despite the warnings of Western medicine. I have not taken any medications for two years. I live intensely. I work in rope access; I climb very actively at quite a decent level. I recently tore the inner meniscus in my right knee. Orthopedic opinion - to be removed or to be stitched. It won't grow back. Too poorly concealed. 2 months of particular squats combined with proper breathing and daily yoga practice, and there is no trace of the injury. After almost a year of intensive Kundalini Kriya practice, I experienced an out-of-body presence twice. The second time was so strong that I didn't want to return. The feeling of lightness, vitality, intensity, aliveness, and complete lack of stream of thoughts and emotions was so liberating that I couldn't convey it. The worst fear I've experienced since I was a child - fear, phobia of pigeons disappeared like fog in a month from this experience. Do I know the answer to any questions? No, none. I often can't say what a limitation or a condition is. Does it exist? Maybe ... One thing I know is when such a border disappears, when anxiety and fear disappear, the feeling of freedom that fills me is at least as good as after a good shit. Well, I exaggerated. 1000x better. But I still love stories .

But what is the point of awakening, become a colourful alien, and then what? How long to be an alien before its boring? What is wrong with this dream that makes you want to awaken so much, when as soon as your awake, your back to the dream again. No one has answered the reason to awake within your paradigm of awakening, that constantly changes anyway, what you class as awakening a year or two years ago, is no longer awake, it's now the alien awakening, where does this end, and what is the purpose or goal?

Once, in the Polish countryside, I met a child, a boy aged 5-6, whom I would not hesitate to call some total alien. Parents - simple people from the village - farmers, kid - indigo is an understatement. The level of empathy, understanding, and curiosity about the world, and lack of fear normal for children of this age was and still is overwhelming. We fixed the roof for these people. It lasted several days. I once spent an entire afternoon with this boy after work instead of going home. He told me about his natural discoveries. If a UFO landed in front of my house, it would have a problem making a similar impression on me.

Ah yes, cessation is something you invented to keep dreaming. However, - Levels of god-realization - Alien kangaroo-mouse love - Genes makes you have more or less consciousness - Psychedelics make you awaken - My awakenings - My teachings - Relative and absolute domains - Deconstructing reality, very risky - Your / my fear - Survival etc. Very real and super important.

Post-hoc mental gymnastics aside, you'll still get mad the moment you find out that somebody sexually assaulted your girlfriend, unless you're some kind of alien robot. How you process that anger is of course up to the individual.

Nope .Leo is so much higher consciousness than these human chimps . The guy gets information downloaded into his mind in real time as he speaks to the camera for hours on end . The dude is in a whole new level. Have you awoken to alien love yet ?

Good description. but the point here is that leo says that the deeper he has gone, the more love, the more selflessness, the more beauty, the more happiness. Instead it looks like he has aged 10 years in the trenches of World War I watching murder and evil. The younger Leo was much more authentic. imo the younger leo had a total awakening and he looked happy, bright. This awakening should have served him to be able to guide others to that same realization, and thus have a selfless, happy and love-filled life. instead, his path was to "go deeper." deeper into infinity, where more and less are the same. until he became an alien rat and stuff. denying your own human nature, becoming a strange guy that nobody understands, always dissatisfied. One detail: He recently had a scare from too many psychedelics. a serious imbalance. what has he done? take a break from drugs? maybe 3 months without taking? not! switch to thc. verdict: junkie But anyway, he's an extremely brilliant person, a pioneer. Anything he does is very interesting for us. We can learn from his mistakes. And of course, probably the genius could reverse the situation and take advantage of it. Lets see

He said he would when he found a suitable camera to record the transformation. He also said that God Realization was nonsense, that really the objective was the alien god, but that this was hidden from us because our human mind could not manage it. that from now on he was going to teach alien awakening. He also said that he had never been happier because if he closed his eyes he would see green and blue aliens doing somersaults and going in helicopters. then he expressed concern because he was in a constant psychedelic state, with nocturnal activations, and then he never returned to the matter. it looks like he is now using thc . This all sounds pretty strange, doesn't it?

Coming from a guy who thinks he can record himself transforming into an alien god for everyone to see. Talk more about fantasy.

There is no alien-mind, only mind.