SOUL

There is no out or in so I, who doesn't exist, cannot do anything because there is nothing to do...

@James123Who is there to help you are alone, we are just figments of your imagination...why are you doing this to yourself?

@Breakingthewall But if they were truly enlightened they are only playing ping pong with themselves...

@James123 What you have is a messiah complex and the path is littered with deluded gurus like this.

@Breakingthewall Just another in the long line of spiritualists who take some drugs then think they are the first and only one to 'see' and 'know' the 'truth'. Just wait a minute...there will be another thread by someone proclaiming it again.... You thinking you are the only one who sees and knows the truth, b-b-but NOT even LEO does!!!! You are simply another young soul that will continue to expand in awareness. The reason it appears you do actually gaf? You keep posting rushing from thread to thread telling others about it thinking you can teach everyone everything. Eventually you will mature in the way of being and realize there is an infinite multitude in the 'oneness' not a solitary magnitude in it, it's ok to be young in the way of being.

@Breakingthewall This isn't my first rodeo, I'm aware of what's going on if my responses didn't clue you in to where I'm at but I'm just performing the part in the play so anyone who may come across this discussion might possibly get some clarity from it.

I guess in the context of 'all spirituality is fake in the illusion' some of the mysticism is useful for well being in transcending what separates someone from it and is different from what is an obstacle to well being but is just a facade of healing that continues to feed separation from well being. It's really difficult to discern the ultimate usefulness to well being from what people present to the world about it. Even if someone intends for only their own gain regardless of well being, another may still reap well being from it and even if the intention is for well being someone may only reap misery and some may believe and display they are seeking well being yet it's really just perpetuating misery. To be fair, some are more obvious than others but it really isn't as clear as it may appear so be aware.

@James123 Don't project your delusions onto others...that isn't helping anyone, not even yourself.

@James123 It's humorous that you felt compelled to answer rhetorical questions, if you are really what you claim to be this thread 'musting' everyone is also quite revealing.

@UnbornTao mates as well.

Therefore, senseless nonsense. Why are people so obsessed with asking 'where'? Or 'who'? More senseless nonsense? 'Where' is the requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing? 'Who' is it that says anyone 'must' do this? You seem to suggest it would make sense to ask others 'where' is the 'who' that knows what is truth or false? So... 'where' and 'who' can know 'what' is 'truth' or 'false'? This is fun...but still senseless nonsense. 'Where' are 'you' that can let go or be effortless? Online discourse is filled with spiritualism double speak that gets exposed for the senseless nonsense it is with the simplest contemplation. Well, I do enjoy bringing some simple clarity to something that is often clouded with esoteric abstractions. People like to stack up complicated rationale and complex beliefs to create an ideological basis for their psychological machinations. I enjoy stripping those away from my own psyche and will encourage it for others if they wish to. Even as people claim to have no beliefs, no concepts, no self, no nothing nowhere because where is it? Where? Where? Are we there yet? I encourage the letting go of letting go, ceasing the releasing...don't lease it to begin with then no need to release it. I don't say you must not must, you can trust your must if you see fit but project your must on others? Must you? It seems like you enjoy talking, too.

Then there are two more beliefs you have to stop doing to be effortless according to your belief system...it's much simpler to not have self created and imposed conditions for someone to 'do' for awakening and enlightenment. This is efforting in an attempt to be effortless and is like having a process to not have a process. There is no requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing, this is self created and imposed conditions. The continuous loop of hoop jumping the conditional mind creates is the hamster wheel of methods and practices designed to empower the self. It's feeding the identity obsessed ego to believe it has the 'truth' and another is 'false'. Sometimes the mind chatters, so what. Sometimes emotions arise, it happens. Sometimes the body itches, then scratch. The body does what it does yet we can have awareness that transcends this, not a belief they prevent awakening, or it does.

Metamind transcends dirty and clean dualism but the relative mind thinks you need to wash yo ass

So that's a 'yes'...you believe that you 'must let go' which is two separate actions, in both believing and letting go, to be effortless....gotcha. I don't have a belief that one 'must let go' so I'm even closer to effortless than you, I suppose.

@Salvijus So AI regurgitates your preference for being pedantic about something that ultimately is nonexistent when the point of it is to transcend perceived duality, not continue to create it and reinforce the perception of it. This just illustrates clearly how artificial intelligence is incapable of discerning the distinction between process and presence of mysticism. It, like the humans who naval gaze on their rules and regulations, has no context for what is presence in awareness because it doesn't have either presence or awareness, again much like humans who have yet to awaken to it. Data sets and large language models don't have the ability to transcend those things to awaken from them. Awareness in consciousness can and does in those that transcend their relative limitations, so awaken to the absolute infinite. Transcending the duality and awakening to the unity allows us to realize the absolute in our relative experience. So well being is our experience in consciousness regardless of the conditions of life. Or you can continue to argue about the perceived difference between imagined dust particles...you do you bruh.