Meditation rewires the brain/mind in ways that psychedelics cannot. Hardcore meditation sharpens perception in important ways.
Psychedelics also sharpen perception but in ways that just don't last long enough.
Meditation also forces the mind to confront difficult emotional labor that is different from psychedelics. Meditation forces you to confront boredom and addictions in a very serious way that psychedelics cannot.
If you haven't done a 200hr retreat you really should. It will be hell, but you'll also learn a lot.

The difference all lies within the consciousness of what God is.
Just because someone says nondual things doesn't mean they have a profound consciousness of God. They may not understand God at all. They may not even know what the word God refers to. Just because they think they know doesn't mean they do. And doesn't mean their teaching will get people to realize God.
God is the most trickiest thing to understand correctly, and virtually nobody has the epistemic nor ontological foundation necessary to properly understand it. Nonduality does not give people the necessary epistemic and ontological foundation. It offers simplistic group-think with little philosophical depth. Such people don't even understand why philosophical depth is important.

I have no problem going on Joe's show if he wants it.
I don't have to agree with his politics to have a productive conversation with him.

Basically anyone under the age of 35 will have very immature and unworkable politics. Because they don't have enough life experience to understand how power and survival really works. Their politics will be some version of group-think, either left or right. It takes enormous life experience to understand why politics works as it does and not by your naive ideals.

I mean, don't let politics color your view of life. Despite whatever MAGA nonsense, life in America is virtually unchanged. America has a huge inertia that even a fascist cannot budge.

1) Move to a huge city with good nightlife, where game works.
2) Hire an experienced coach who can watch you approach and correct your mistakes. Or find free experienced wingmen.
To do this, work on getting a good job and developing your finances so you can afford such things and have more freedom.
For pickup to work it has to be done in the correct ways, not just anything goes.
Just joining lots of social activities is good alternative. Join social events, dance classses, yoga classes, festivals, parties, college events, etc. And socialize with everyone there.

You can read anecdotes about Musk from people like Kara Swisher. She was his friend before he turned on her and called her evil for daring to criticize his immaturity.
She says he's kinda lonely and miserable in his private life.
Frankly I'm sick of hearing about these Tech Bros. They are all corrupt and shallow as hell. Success and power addicts who understand nothing of what life is really about.

You are right that my style has been harsh which is why I have been softening it lately. But it's still not going to ever be that Rupert Spira style.
I don't like soft and sweet styles of teaching because they do not properly represent the difficulty and seriousness of this work. It's like someone talking sweetly about war.
But I know my style is offputting to plenty of people.

I'm reading  "A Post-Truth World" by Ken Wilber and he seems to be under the impression that Trump, (and Brexit), uses postmodern relativism, where "no truth" exists only egalitarian perspectives. Wilber claims that this shows Trump is at Stage Green that came online in the 1960's (when Trump grew up) and now has come to an unsustainable degenerated madness we see today.

If you guys locate more clips of Integral people exposing their political positions please post here. We need more data on their actual policy views.
I am very suspicious of them but need proof before I jump to conclusions. I want to be fair to them, but I smell a stinker.
The fumes of Spiral Wizard foolishness are in the air.

The problem is that Trump 2.0 is another beast. They will eliminate all checks and balances so that by 2028 it won't be clear what remains of democracy.
At this point the only thing stopping them from installing a dictatorship is themselves. There are no checks at all any more. The only question now is how low will they go? What is their personal bottom? Are they okay with shooting protestors? Are they okay with imprisoning democrats?

I have a hard time relating to how much some of ya'll do psychedelics. I'm still understanding insights from trips I had years ago.
And they're so badly inconvenient for normal life.
1-2x per year feels like max for me.
3x per week consistently is insane.

The amount you're consuming in 5 or 10 seconds also depends on how strongly you're breathing in.
I don't fully understand what a breakthrough is but I'm pretty sure it's regarding ego death. I've never had ego death on 5meo, I don't think I've really come close. I always start with one full hit and my trips are pretty consistent in their depth

Hard to say.
I don't need psychedelics for it any more. But they were certainly vital to my current situation.
If not psychedelics you better be doing 200hr retreats.

I've noticed a common pattern among certain spiritual teachers who position themselves as having reached "advanced cognitive and moral development." They create elaborate frameworks where you must follow specific paths (often involving suffering) to become "truly good" or "advanced."
This fundamentally misses the point: I don't need anyone's permission to exist as I choose or to experience pleasure now.
Why These Moral Development Frameworks Miss the Mark
When a guru tells you that you're "corrupt" or "selfish" and need to follow their specific path to goodness, they're:
Creating a New Master to Serve: They've simply replaced traditional religious authorities with themselves and their framework. The question remains: "Who are you and why should I care what you say?" Denying Your Fundamental Freedom: I don't need anyone's permission or approval to live as I choose. My existence isn't conditional on meeting someone else's arbitrary standards of "goodness" or "development." Imposing Purpose as Limitation: Any purpose, no matter how noble-sounding ("becoming a truly good person"), inherently restricts freedom. It says "you don't deserve pleasure now" because you haven't met some arbitrary condition - whether that's suffering enough, developing enough, or achieving enough. These are just sophisticated ways of telling you to deny yourself what you want. Establishing a False Hierarchy: They position themselves at a higher level of development that you should aspire to reach. This creates the exact same limitations as religious frameworks, just with different terminology. Presenting Their Opinions as Facts: They present their understanding of moral development as objective truth rather than recognizing that their entire framework is just their opinion, no more inherently valid than yours. The Alternative: Freedom to Be as You Are
A more honest approach recognizes that:
I don't need to justify my existence or my desires to anyone I deserve pleasure and fulfillment now, not after meeting someone else's standards I can decide for myself what's valuable without adopting someone else's framework No one has the authority to tell me I must delay gratification to meet their definition of "goodness" When someone tells you that you must suffer to become good, the appropriate response is: "Who the hell are you to tell me what I deserve or when I deserve it?"
Their framework is just another attempt to control how others live and experience the world. What these teachers want is conformity to their vision, not your freedom.
What these teachers don't understand is that their entire developmental model is just another limitation on consciousness—another purpose saying "you don't deserve pleasure now." True sovereignty recognizes that such limitations are themselves created and can be transcended.
This isn't about avoiding self-reflection or responsibility—it's about recognizing that all frameworks, including those of "advanced moral development," are relative constructs that consciousness creates rather than discovers.
Anticipating the Responses
I can already hear the response from development-focused teachers: "Your consciousness is just premature. True sovereignty comes after development, not before it. You're just avoiding the painful work of growth."
This response perfectly demonstrates the trap these frameworks create. By positioning any rejection of their framework as "evidence" of your undeveloped state, they create a system where disagreement itself proves them right. It's a perfect circular logic:
"If you disagree with me, it proves you're undeveloped." "Your undeveloped state is why you can't see the truth of what I'm saying." "Therefore, your disagreement confirms my framework." This is precisely what makes these frameworks so insidious - they create a closed system where questioning the system becomes evidence that you need the system.
What these teachers fail to recognize is that their entire developmental model is itself a creation of consciousness - not an objective reality independent of perspective. When they claim to simply be "pointing to developmental truth," they're actually creating that truth through sovereign will while denying they're doing so.
The real question isn't "Have I met the conditions to deserve pleasure?" but "Why am I accepting someone else's created truth as objective reality?"

Have you ever meditated for two weeks straight?
You know what that feels like?
It's basically self-torture. And you may not get any awakening out of it.

I mean two weeks of non-stop meditation. 200hrs of meditation in two weeks.
That's what this path requires. Over and over again.

Psychedelics have their own suffering.
But psychedelics are not enough for this work. Psychedelics are just the beginning.
You cannot skip the tortures if you want serious embodiment.

Because you have more consciousness and less corruption.
Obviously that's the case.
But corrupt here means something much more subtle and profound than illegal activity.
Human civilization is awash in corruption. It's stunning once you see it. The corruption is a bottomless ocean.
But also, you need to see the good in people too.
Remember, people are complex. They are odd mixtures of goodness and corruption. Just like you. There is good in you but you are also selfish and ignorant. You're doing the best your consciousness can see.

Of course vibes are real. You can feel the vibes of an unconscious, selfish, untruthful person.
Trump is the clearest example of smarmy toxic vibes.
But you also have to be very careful because the mind will see what it wants to see. If you want to hate someone your mind will invent a rationale for it.

I think most people who lack social intelligence are just lacking massive social experience. They could also be neuro-divergent which makes their brains slower in seeing reality from a social point of view.
Picking up social cues has a genetic component. Even caring about the social domain has a genetic component. Some brains just don't care. You can't be great at someting you don't care about.

But you shouldn't assume that Yellow will have your politics. Yellow could be politically spineless I think.
There's way more than that.
Jordan Hall for sure. Ken Wilber. John Vervaeke. And many more.
I see Schamchetenberger, Wilber, and Hall as actually Turquoise.

No. This is very poor logic. An exceptional person can experience God and Love under almost any circumstance. What really matters is the average user of the teaching. And there are many harmful side-effects of religion which are being conveniently ignored.
Just because a Christian has an Awakening does not mean that Christianity has been validated. This is actually even more dangerous because now the Christian will excuse away all the problems that Christianity causes, as happened in this thread.
And a Christian Awakening is not going to be the same thing as other kinds of Awakenings. It will come with all sorts of fantasies and self-deceptions. And there is far more at stake in life than just Awakening. There is politics, and much more.
A Christian can have an Awakening and then go right to believing that Palestinians are demons.
Christians will use Awakening to monopolize God for themselves in narcissistic fashion and use it to shove their verison of God down your throat. And use it to justify all their other false and limited beliefs, of which there are many.
The whole beauty of God is that it isn't Christian. God cares about Christians as much as Christians care about bacteria living in their butts.

It's very likely it has unhinged his mind.
Yes, psychedelics make the mind unstable if taken regularly. Psychedelics can also applify narcissistic tendencies by making the ego feel like God, like everything it thinks is Truth.
This is especially dangerous when one has no epsitemic foundation like Musk, and a bunch of yes-men who kiss his ass all day.
Musk is into ketamine but not into doing serious inner work on himself and deconstructing his ego, which is a dangerous combo. This means the ego will be super-charged with fantasies and biases.

I will happily be the biggest freak in the world.
As if anything humans understand matters.