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How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?
How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?I lose time.
Putting up a profile is pointless if you don't spam dozens of women per day very proactively and consistently.
I would much rather game at a Vegas club.
You will not get quality girls online unless you are in the top 20% looks-wise and have a masculine look.
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How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?
How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?It does not. But I force myself to go out anyway.
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Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?
Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?Cease trying to get with her because it will never happen, and instead focus all your mental energy on getting better with girls in general.
Move away from trying to land any one particular girl to being more social and better with talking to all girls.
BTW, what you are describing is not even Oneitis. You just had a crush on some girl. Oneitis is way worse than that. It's more like when you are totally obessed with this one girl, but she crushes your heart and you want her so bad you feel depressed and perhaps even suicidal because "she was the only one for me." It can get real bad.
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Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?
Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?If you are regularly having sex and you are in a full-on exclusive relationship, of course you can and will get very attached to each other. There's no way around that. If and when that relationship ends -- and they almost always end -- you will experience crushing heartbreak. That's just the karma of strongly attaching to anything within reality.
I am not saying you shouldn't get very attached to your girlfriend. Just understand the costs.
Of course it's okay to express your emotions you have toward her. In fact you're probably not doing this nearly deep enough nor often enough. But don't do this too early on, wait for her to be seriously hooked on you. The problem is when guys do this too early, even before sex. This is a no-no. You basically need to mirror her level of investment in you. If she is has not invested a lot in you, don't go investing a lot in her. Reward her investment with your investment.
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Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?
Any tips on getting over “oneitis”?If you don't develop the ability to attract new girls with some consistency, Oneitis will get real bad. So be careful.
The more social you are, the less Oneitis will affect you because you know there's tons of other girls around.
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How big of a factor is location in pickup
How big of a factor is location in pickupThe hottest girls are always in the most social places, the biggest cities.
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How big of a factor is location in pickup
How big of a factor is location in pickupI don't have experience with that, so can't say.
But I would move to a place/city which has lots of girls walking around and/or great nightlife.
Hard for me to believe there are no good nightlife spots in Japan or India. All people party. Go to where the party is at.
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Pornography
PornographyIf you get addicted to it, then obviously that's a problem you must address.
For me it has never been a big deal. In fact porn has helped me a lot to focus my energies on my work and other important things. Porn has also helped me figure out which physical features I want in a girl.
Without porn I would have to invest way more time chasing girls. Which is not necessarily bad, but I also had much higher priorities.
Porn is also helpful for curbing neediness and thirstiness.
The best solution to curb porn is to pour all that energy into socializing and attracting real girls. When I got into pickup I was so busy learning and going out I barely had time for or interest in porn.
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How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?
How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?@Ineedanswers Leo’s advice is good, I would essentially recommend the same, except for maybe add some more hours to socializing. As long as it’s manageable and you don’t burn out.
Because you’re psychologically going to make it a bigger deal than it is. You can really start to get in your head about it and develop a lot of self doubt.
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How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?
How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?21-35 is the sweet spot. The younger the better. Most guys in the community are 23-33. Although the community as a whole is aging.
Nothing weird about starting at 25. I started at 26 or 27.
40+ is where things start to get difficult and strange.
The best age is as young as possible. The older you get the harder it gets, the fewer girls will want to sleep with you simply because you start to feel like their daddy.
Oh man, I wish I learned about pickup when I was 21 and in college. Holy fuck. What a lost opportunity.
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How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?
How old is the typical pickup enthusiast?I suggest you work on multiple fronts. You can start getting in shape now. Not because the girl needs it but because you want to feel confident and strong for yourself. You should also start to socialize more and talk to new girls on a weekly basis.
And while you do that you can build up your career skills during the day.
Career: 8hrs per day
Fitness: 30-60mins per day
Socializing with girls: 4hrs Fri and Sat night.
You can do all the above at once.
I suggest you aim to land your first GF as soon as you can. The longer you put it off the harder it will get.
You don't need to have some great job to attract cute girls. So don't wait for that. You can get fit within 3-6 months. But don't wait for that either, you can start talking to girls and being social now, to build up your skills for when you are fit.
I am very interested in romance.
I don't use apps. I don't like bars. So it's challenging.
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How big of a factor is location in pickup
How big of a factor is location in pickupIt is the foundation upon which everything else is built.
You need to move to a place that has a high density of girls. This means the biggest cities with the best nightlife or the best social scenes like cafes, sidewalks, malls, etc.
Best places are NYC, LA, London, Vegas, Miami, Austin, etc.
Not only must you move to the right city, you must then find the best locations within that city to visit, otherwise you won't get far.
And it helps a lot to live as close to the city center as possible. Driving 30 mins to the city is a killer.
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Are women hypergamous?
Are women hypergamous?I'm going to go a step further and share some ideas I've had from the last few years research:
Dating through a purely biological paradigm creates tons of pathology in the persona of everyones pysche's
We all try to give off a certain expression of ourselves that meets what we assume to be attractive for the opposite sex based on societal and biological influences. Be high status, be masculine, be alpha
Lets be real I am an ENTP and your an INTP we are two feminine types, and our top matches INTJ and ENTJ females are perhaps the most masculine. Can you see the added confusion, pathology and smoke and mirrors it creates when an xNTJ females try to behave feminine and xNTPs mask their femininity and behave masculine?
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Is it possible to do pickup without hurting women’s feelings?
Is it possible to do pickup without hurting women’s feelings?The reality is that dating, period, creates hurt on both sides, because both parties are playing survival games and trying to get their own needs met first. Hearts get broken.
But, harm reduction is possible with more conscious and ethical methods.
Some situations are so obviously casual that little or no expectation is placed by either side for stuff beyond sex. This is a true win-win, but it can be hard to find that scenario. You'll mostly find it at parties and clubs, or places like Vegas. People fly to Vegas just to fuck. But this is not how most dating works.
When it comes to casual sex, that game is skewed in the guy's favor because the girl has more to lose and is more likely to get hurt.
The problem is that if you tell a girl before sex that this will just be casual, 95%+ girls will not sleep with you. Hence it is suicidal to utter such words. Even if the girl wants just casual sex she cannot allow herself or her friends to know that explicitly otherwise she is cast as the biggest slut in town.
But still, it is possible to go to bars and clubs in a somewhat ethical manner. You can reduce collateral damage by screening girls more and basically getting laid less. You can aim to mostly sleep with girls who you would be happy to develp a connection with beyond sex.
But if all you're doing is hunting for new pussy each night and trying to maximize your lay rate, I don't see how this is ethical. You will hurt a lot of girls, and in order to keep doing it you will have to lie to yourself about it, which will place a ceiling on how conscious you can become in life.
Fundamentally, chasing after lots of sex, or the hottest sex, is a low consciousness behavior and mindset. There is no magic bullet around this fact, sorry to say. Which is why the most conscious people have the least sex.
So what do you want more, sex or consciousness? Tough decisions! Be careful fooling yourself that you can have it all.
Doing pickup consciously is quite challenging. But you can do it. I recommend you do. You will grow like mad. But it will hurt like a bitch.
Remember, dating involves some hurt feelings. That is the cost of entry. Just seek to reasonably minimize those costs.
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Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?
Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?The point is to learn to socialize and find yourself a girl you can fall in love with. And then if she leaves you, the point is you can find a new one.
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Can the US actually afford to pay for dramatic expansion in health and child care?
Can the US actually afford to pay for dramatic expansion in health and child care?Of course it can be afforded. The issue is one of misplaced priorities.
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Serious Talk
Serious TalkLet's get real here, all Leo does is read books, do drugs, and talk about, that's all he do with his life. Then he goes and insolently talks shit about everybody else on here like he done something. He's not enlightened, he's just done a bunch of drugs, and read a few books. There's nothing special about him. That's his secret to life, do drugs.
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Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?
Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?Nothing wrong of course.
But the longer you drag it out the more energy you potentially lose since a girl will not be truly invested in a guy until sex. So the longer it takes the more likely you are to lose her.
That is generally the how it works. Attracting the hottest girls requires much higher skill. Attracting average girls is way easier because there is less competition.
Fair point.
But it is sorta the case that plenty of women don't reward decent behavior in men very well. The whole, nice guys finish last. There is truth in that.
The reward is not just sex, but the relationship itself. There can't be a relationship without the sex first.
I have lost plenty of girls who I wanted relationships with but the sex never happened therefore the relationship never happened either.
Except it doesn't necessarily come. Women are fickle and change their moods and minds easily. So dragging it out means you will lose some girls.
That may be acceptable, but it can also be very frustrating because you get invested in it.
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The labels "Introvert"/"Extrovert" are ABSURD and DISRUPTIVE!
The labels "Introvert"/"Extrovert" are ABSURD and DISRUPTIVE!You gotta keep in mind that introversion/extroversion is a spectrum. Many people are somewhere in the middle.
For me, I am very introverted and have been my whole life. Yet most people who meet me face to face would think I am an extrovert because one-on-one I can get very animated and go into a deep conversation with some close friend. But I am terrible at small talk or meeting new people because the shallowness of it bores me and drains my energy.
For me, the introversion label fits perfectly. And I know others whom it fits perfectly too. And I also know extroverts who are just the opposite: they go into a bar and light up like a Christmas tree. As an introvert I just can't do that. Small talk wears me out. I need quiet intimate environments, not noisy clubs or bars.
All that said, I can still push myself to go to a bar and be extroverted. It just feels very unnatural.
So a lot this has to do with what feels most natural to you.
Would you rather have 100 friends who you rarely have a deep conversation with, or 3 really close friends? Extroverts tend to have 100s of friends, so many they don't even have time to meet them for more than 10 minutes. An introvert will have a couple good friends but spend hours talking to them.
Of course, as with all theories, categories, and models, don't let it limit you. Use it to deepen your understanding, and if it doesn't help you do that, throw it away. For me it's a handy distinction which explains how I tend to act.
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The labels "Introvert"/"Extrovert" are ABSURD and DISRUPTIVE!
The labels "Introvert"/"Extrovert" are ABSURD and DISRUPTIVE!@MrDmitriiV I think you're misunderstanding what an introvert is.
Introvert: someone who get energized being alone, drains energy being with people. Introverts make fewer but deeper friendships. Doesn't like to approach new people, prefers new people to approach them.
Extrovert: someone who gets energized being with people. Extroverts makes lots of shallow friendships. Loves to approach new people and make new friends.
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Yet another newbie question - "social proof"
Yet another newbie question - "social proof"Their hotness actually plays a fairly important role. A hot girl has enormous value to men. Men know it and she knows it. And she will use that to up her survival (as any living creature would).
Getting 5's, 6's, and 7's is pretty straight forward. But if you want to date 8's and 9's, you gotta bring some serious value to the table. Hotness comes with a price. Hotness ain't free. As far as 10's, forget about it. Not even worth thinking about.
Handling 9's and 10's is not gonna be worth your time most likely. They can be really high maintenance and have spoiled rotten materialistic souls.
The best way to land 9's and 10's is to become famous. So your social value is obvious and glaring it's never in question that you are the prize and she's be lucky to be in your presence. Fame is an awesome dating strategy and can tie in nicely with your LP. For example, if you're a famous author, you should have no problem getting laid from social events and book signings.
Just be careful not to abuse it.
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Yet another newbie question - "social proof"
Yet another newbie question - "social proof"They don't care how much sex you have, nor will they ever know.
But what they do care about is that you have some value as a man. To a woman, value in a man is his survival value to her. A valuable man usually acts confident, witty, easy-going, leader in his pack of friends, outgoing, charismatic, takes initiative, knows what he wants, passionate about his life, has a clear sense of direction in life, has a decent job, a results-maker, the boss, etc. The girl needs to feel that YOU are the prize. If you feel that she is the prize, she's basically out of your league and she knows it and so she won't get attracted to you.
Guys who are surrounded by lots of friends, who are the hub of their social network, have high value to a girl. She will find such a guy much more attractive than a loner because girls are social creatures and love to leech off social networks. That's a big part of their survival strategy.
To get the hottest girls you need to build a lot of social value. It's a full-time job. Having lots of friends who are girls are a great way to get girls interested in you. That's like the epitome of social proof. The more hot girls are around, the more will flock to you. Just like earning money. Winner takes all, loser ends up getting scraps.
Being famous is the best way to have social value. Which is why rockstars, DJ's, and celebrities get laid the most. Girls love a guy who has some solid social status which everyone recognizes.
With all that said, you don't need any social value to get a girl. It's mostly only necessary if you want to land the hottest girls, the top 5%. Ordinary girls will settle for much less. To attract an ordinary girl all you need is some confidence, humor, and decent conversation skills. All of which can be trained up.
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Miss Leo’s Live Awakenings on YT
Miss Leo’s Live Awakenings on YTIt got wonky because he is mentally ill and uses his channel to make money from his putting his mental illness on show.
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Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?
Hurt a girl, what to do... ethical way of dating?Of course!
The more a girl likes you and sees you as boyfriend material, the slower she will be in doling out the sex. Because in her mind she respects you so much that she wants it "to be special" and not cheap. The cheap quick easy sex is for the douche bag player who she will never see again.
Girls are super counter-intuitive.
This is otherwise known as setting the boyfriend vs the player frame. If you set the player frame, she will have sex with you on the same night. If you set the boyfriend frame, it will take 3 dates.
I once was gonna have sex with a girl who really liked me in my car. But I had set the boyfriend frame. So she said, "No, I want it to be special". This is how girls think. Everything is backwards. You will not be rewarded for the boyfriend frame like you might expect, even though that's what she most wants.
The other problem with just playing with her but not closing the deal is that very often she will flip her mood the next day and never call you back because she feels like a slut or just awkward. It's quite risky to not close the deal. If you got her half-naked, it's usually best to close the deal. The chances of future success after that situation drops quite a bit. My general rule of thumb is: don't get her naked or too horny unless you can close the deal. Because setting up the next date will be so awkward in her mind.
If your plan is to court her over multiple dates, then the best move is to not push for sex the first date. Then you don't come off as cliche pushy guy and she will be excited for it on day 2.
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Feeling hurt that my girlfriend commented that my crying bothers her
Feeling hurt that my girlfriend commented that my crying bothers herI've never worried about crying in front of a girlfriend. In fact I think it's a technique more guys should use. It builds crazy intimacy.
Of course you wanna do it very infrequently when the situation really calls for it. Not over petty things.
If your woman can't appreciate you crying, you probably should upgrade your woman. I find that the higher quality ones, the more conscious ones, will appreciate it and actually want to be there for you when you're suffering through heavy shit.
Then again, if I cry in front of a woman it's not gonna be tears of sadness or misery, it's gonna be tears of love and joy. That is a pretty big difference.