Eskilon

That`s redudant

Because it's boring, has zero decision making in it and it takes zero skill. It's grossly egoic in my opinion, most people do it to get attention from others. Much better to practice a sport or a martial art, at least you actually learn something meaningful and engage in play.

Another interesting model for pesonalities is Enneagram, it's rarely talked about it in here. This forum is the type 5 dream waiting room .

@Natasha Tori MaruLMAO. I would make sure to fly to your house in Australia just to scare you a bit

YES, something like that Me don`t like survival pressures that much, me like to understand stuff, medidate and music . Build such a room for me, oh wise lady！So one day maybe I would descend from the mountain, or should I say, leave the mighty room. With eyes full of tears of wisdom

@Natasha Tori Maru The most wise go go go lady . Can you build a self-sustaining contemplation room for me so I can use my Ti and Ni for all eternity and not be productive?😳

You promised us Leo! If the government aint gonna do it, might as well be you

Yes, this is the point. Some people just don't care about attention from others. This is a personality trait, it's really hard to be charismatic if you just dont give a damn lol, and thats ok. Monks and mystics are not so charismatic, guess why? They just don't care what you think of them and they are not trying to attract anyone.

@Leo Gura And what is your reply to that? Even if it is not the full picture, its a glimpse that it might actually be possible, even though you or anyone here is not even close to that. There's also the case of mystics being burned alive or being dismebered and not suffering such as Al-Hallaj and Marguerite Porete. I'm not saying it's true, since I wasn't there. But maybe skeptcism might need to each itself since that too is a limited perspective.

It's a way of saying this forum and even Leo might be trapped on them -- especially the red one lol

E-motion, internal motion? Consciousness?

Compare the number of poems written about love and the ones about respect and you have your answer If you had a child, what would you more likely say, "I love you" or "I respect you"? Respect is just too wordly, societal and conditional to have the awe and power like Love does.

The question is, can true intelligence be mechanical? If it can't, it needs consciousness, so unless AI becomes conscious it cannot be truly intelligent. A computer is not intelligent, even though it is doing insane ammounts of calculations no human can. The intelligence of the computer is coming from somewhere else(humans). This is the same thing happening with AI, it is dead, it's intelligence doesn't come from itself, it comes from somewhere else.

Close your eyes, be still, and watch.