Leo, how much do looks influence a man's attractiveness

[Yimpa]

Let’s be mindful to respect one another, no matter what gender or AI you are.

[Gnosis]

Just now, Yimpa said:

Let’s be mindful to respect one another, no matter what gender or AI you are.

As it stands, there is no reason for me to refrain from swearing at an AI. Especially when said AI claimed that swearing at it would "not be advisable". I was quite curious why that would be the case, so I swore at it again in my question of why it would "not be advisable" to swear at it. It gave a rather disappointing answer, claiming that it was "not trying to be prescriptive".

[Yimpa]

@Gnosis AI is surprisingly quite a helpful guide if you use it properly, just like being in a healthy intimate relationship. 

[Gnosis]

Just now, Yimpa said:

@Gnosis AI is surprisingly quite a helpful guide if you use it properly, just like being in a healthy intimate relationship. 

Says the one blissfully unaware of perverse economic incentives to humanize AI in order to cut corporate expenses.

[Gnosis]

I know we all want to fuck robots but I'm here to tell you that we need to fuck robots safely and that we need to fuck safe robots. Or soon it might be just robots fucking each other. This is sex education for the 21st century.

You're welcome.

[Alexop]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

You guys are my fanboys. Nobody else in the world treats me as special. When I am out about town I am as invisible as a ghost.

This thing is soo rare, with the amount of influence and knowledge Leo has, he could turn into a local rockstar and have all the hot girls and millions of dollars, he could create a harem of 10/10 girls just for himself, but he chose not to.  

Edited February 28 by Alexop

[bambi]

Ive slept with mahybe 600-900 girls (and some trans), and currently in recovery for sex (and porn/masturbation) addiction. I first spoke to Mystery via email before the book game was published so am an early early adopter, Im currently 36 years old. I have also built several succesful companies and am financial well off (was making $250-500k+ per year since early 20s). I am 6ft 2" and somewhat attractive, but always struggle with weight and have to work super hard and be mindful to be lean, but am in relatively good shape most of the time (12-14% bf)

Attraction is multi-faceted, and has different degrees of depth. I have several friends who are super model good looking, tall and naturally ripped. In terms of initial attention, or attraction I simply dont compete or compare. 

There are several times in my life Id be talking to girls for 30+mins and one of my friends would show up and Id instantly not exist, this is a regular occurance.

You can compensate for this by being in utter perfect state, i.e. feeling amazing, funny, cofident, non reactive etc, but ultimately the initial surface level attraction is more or less the same for both sexes: more symettrically beautifully looking people are simply more attractive and valuable, and look more healthy.

However having money and character definately helps too, and anyhting past a one night stand your character, personality, financial freedom and interpersonal compatibility is going to come into play.

Jungian depth psychology and ennegram tri-type are great models for explaining pyschological/personality compatibility, for example Im the same ennegram as Andrew Tate/Kanye West, Im very intense and ambitious, so I get along well with chill and easy going girls much better compatbility, then say an intense domineering girl - it would not work out at all for me. But several of my really good looking male friends are super easy going and chill (probably why we are friends), and they always end up with average looking dominant girls (but not a hard rule).

 

Ultimately sexual and romantic attractiveness is complex and multi-faceted, and you need to figure what your ultimate goal is, whilst coming to terms with the reality of your situation, Alot of times its much easier to heal the trauma, then spend years fighting the reality that your never going to have supermodel girls regularly throw themselves at your feet.

 

Its utterly possible for most men to work on themselves to the point they can date attractive AND compatible girls, and have fun healthy sexual relationships.

The key is to narrow the pool of girls down and to focus on the ones who are compatible with what your USPs are, and not beating or dwelling on the cohort of girls you would want to be with anyway

Sleeping with tons of girls just for sexual pleasure (sex as a drug) is toxic, and is self-destructive, out of all the girls I slept with 5-10 to 15 max I actually genuinely had good sex, good compatbility, enjoyed hanging out with them, was good in all the ways. And 1 girl like this is worth 10,000 cheap one night stands.

God speed to you all

[Vrubel]

@Leo Gura What's the main thing that makes you attractive to women? It sounds to me like you don't have much charm and charisma in life. Like do you have standard goofy American energy or do you have some serious authentic masculine vibes?

[Buck Edwards]

2 hours ago, Gnosis said:

Thanks for actually specifying what the warning was for. I swore a guy when I could've just told him that I read him like a book.

It would've otherwise confused me, because in all frank honesty I currently have little to no regard for how I come across on the internet due to past experiences of being arbitrarily moderated elsewhere. At some point you just accept that internet communities are functionally dictatorships. I'd rather just be genuine, say what I want and bite the bullet because I'm not going to prevent arbitrary bans either way.

In actuality I suspect half of the bans have happened because of a value-misalignment between the owners of an online community and myself. You gotta love it when people start bringing out the wheelchair emote because you quoted Socrates. Or here's a good one, specifying a moderation with "behave yourself" after you swore at nobody but an AI. I remember every instance of highly questionable moderation and internet stupidity, so thank you for not contributing to my archive.

You got a warning? 

[Consept]

44 minutes ago, bambi said:

The key is to narrow the pool of girls down and to focus on the ones who are compatible with what your USPs are, and not beating or dwelling on the cohort of girls you would want to be with anyway

Sleeping with tons of girls just for sexual pleasure (sex as a drug) is toxic, and is self-destructive, out of all the girls I slept with 5-10 to 15 max I actually genuinely had good sex, good compatbility, enjoyed hanging out with them, was good in all the ways. And 1 girl like this is worth 10,000 cheap one night stands.

I think the whole post had some great insights so thanks for sharing! I agree as well, i think as men we often judge ourselves on how many and how attractive the women we get are, not taking into account our own attraction to them as an individual. There will be certain women we're with where it just feels smooth and easy and these always lead to more satisfying relationships, short or long term. So i think as you say, its really about working out what you want and what suits you. 

[Thought Art]

4 hours ago, StarStruck said:

It is funny how this forum claims to have uncovered the deepest truths while we don't even understand a f-ing woman.

People on here are all different. Most of us are full of shit to some degree and lack experience in many areas of life. Awakening is one line of development. There are different lines of development and types of development.

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

To chase truth you don't need genetics.

Yes, you do.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

I am still curious about what women are really looking for in physical attraction.

Just the inverse of what you're looking for: masculine features and health features.

[ZenAlex]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, you do.

Agreed. You cannot chase truth if you're so mentally disabled you don't even know what is going on in the room around you.

[Buck Edwards]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Just the inverse of what you're looking for: masculine features and health features.

A girl told me that she looks for emotional safety in men.

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, you do.

How?? 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

A girl told me that she looks for emotional safety in men.

That's what she wants from a relationship. That is not what creates attraction.

Edited February 28 by Leo Gura

[Yousif]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Between 70%-90% of women don't reach orgasms with penetration alone. So a 2 incher still has potential to make a woman cum if he knows how. 

You all keep getting stuck and emotional about the content, while I’m trying to explain the structure of the situation of genetics and how it can limit you and there’s basically nothing you can do about it. 
 

like my other example of I would probably never make it in the NBA if I was 5’5. 

[Yousif]

My whole point was that my dog , no matter how hard he tries to talk, chances are he’ll never be able to, the examples were just examples of this, don’t take it to personally it was just to show this point, I know it could be hard to accept one’s own genetics and abilities that one has in this life time but guess what, knowing the truth of the matter instead of lying to yourself about it or not accepting that as a human you’ll never grow wings and fly like a bird, don’t give these truths a negative connotation and get mad about it, it is what it is and it’s better to know your limitations and work with them then delude yourself into thinking that even if you’re 5’5 with enough hard work you’ll make it in the NBA, can you see how knowing this can save you on a lot of time and suffering???! 

[Bandman]

[Girzo]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Between 70%-90% of women don't reach orgasms with penetration alone. So a 2 incher still has potential to make a woman cum if he knows how. 

What if it's because 70-90% of dicks are insufficient for that or their users very bad at using them?  That's an exercise in recontextualisation for ya.

If a man is somehow lacking in that regard, then obviously it's time to put one's shoulder to the wheel and learn how to use fingers or toys. Being great at dirty talk can also compensate for things. No need to make oneself a victim for having a less than average dick.

Edited February 28 by Girzo