Who Wants Actualized Psychedelic Retreats?

[Jehovah increases]

53 minutes ago, vibv said:

Nothing is below God.

Because everything is God.  And that is why I said they are all me. God likes to play games with itself. God is the ultimate prankster.

Edited Thursday at 10:15 AM by Jehovah increases

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@emil1234 Agree, I too noticed the dogpiling.

Normally in a neutral toned Q & A, questions are open. But in this case, users are framing the questions loaded with some pre-formed assumptions. Which sets a certain tone to things. A tone you can feel but not often put your finger on.

[vibv]

2 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Because everything is God. God likes to play games with itself.

Yup

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, meta_male said:

You've dedicated your life to teaching people how to realise they're God. But if you still believe they behave like rats and dogs...what's the point of teaching them?

Where is the contradiction?

Most humans are zombies. And a few evolve beyond that. That's our situation. It is what it is. This is not some insult to humans. Humans just are zombies.

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Do you ever see that behaviour in yourself too?

Sure. I fall into zombie behavior too.

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I am a human and I don't worship you. Doesn't that disprove it's inevitable humans worship someone behaving god-like?

We are talking about averages, not individual people. Of course plenty of individuals hate me, and plenty are indifferent.

This is an issue of scale. When you have a million viewers the scale works in certain predictable ways. Some will love you, some will worship you, some will hate you, some will want to kill you. And there is nothing you can do about it.

Edited Thursday at 09:37 AM by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I prefer to keep things real.

Never forget that humans will eat you alive given the right circumstance. Your compassion will mean nothing to them. They will tear you apart like a pack of dogs.

I have no illusions about human nature.

Humans are evil, ignorant creatures.

This is what The Joker said to Batman in the interrogation scene and he said he would prove it to him

 

Then he gets proved wrong at the end when the prisoners spare the civilians and the civilians spare the prisoners

 

But he corrupted Harvey Dent and turned him into Two Face proving his initial point

 

 

Idk why but I felt I had to share that 

Edited Thursday at 09:46 AM by Twentyfirst

[meta_male]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Where is the contradiction?

Most humans are zombies. And a few evolve beyond that. That's our situation. It is what it is. This is not some insult to humans. Humans just are zombies.

No contradiction. So you're saying you see both...the zombie and the divine in the zombie.

 

 

[Leo Gura]

Divine zombies 

[nexusoflife]

I would buy a plane a ticket and fly out there now. It would be a beautiful opportunity to meet you and further deepen my nondual perception of existence. 

[WisdomSeeker]

@Leo Gura "Never forget that humans will eat you alive given the right circumstance. Your compassion will mean nothing to them. They will tear you apart like a pack of dogs." Glad you are wise enough to see this. 

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I prefer to keep things real.

Never forget that humans will eat you alive given the right circumstance. Your compassion will mean nothing to them. They will tear you apart like a pack of dogs.

I have no illusions about human nature.

Humans are evil, ignorant creatures.

It is not. The more god-like one behaves the more worshop one will get no matter what. Because humans worship God. This has nothing do with me.

Why do humans like me? Because I communicate godly things. That's also why they hate me.

 

[Clarence]

On 08/10/2025 at 7:40 AM, Leo Gura said:

No. I'm not sure if there is such a reason. Maybe.

I think there is a reason. The universe is too intelligent to leave it up to chance.

[vibv]

52 minutes ago, Clarence said:

I think there is a reason. The universe is too intelligent to leave it up to chance.

There is and we will all come to experience it. This place isn't gonna stay that way. See it as kind of a prolonged tutorial.

As I said, nothing is planned.

Everything is designed with utmost intelligence and creativity. Joy is the Source of all this. But as it happened, this reality even went far beyond Joy. This will turn out to be a happy accident. God won't ever be the same after this.

[integral]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Humans cannot help but worship celebrities. It's such rat-like behavior and even when you tell them to stop they cannot do it. And regardless of whether you act arrogant or humble they will still do it.

The celebrity dynamic is corruption.

It's OK Leo I think of you as epistemically vigilant scum.

We need a rat leveling system just for this worship problem.

[Rigel]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I prefer to keep things real.

Never forget that humans will eat you alive given the right circumstance. Your compassion will mean nothing to them. They will tear you apart like a pack of dogs.

I have no illusions about human nature.

Humans are evil, ignorant creatures.

It is not. The more god-like one behaves the more worshop one will get no matter what. Because humans worship God. This has nothing do with me.

Why do humans like me? Because I communicate godly things. That's also why they hate me.

I have been observing this in myself & others for years & I still don’t know how to deal with it. It makes me disgusted & disappointed in myself first of all & then the world. I don’t believe myself when I think that but I waste a lot of time & energy in this pattern. How do you make peace with that fact? My ego isn’t ok with the human condition being as it is. It whines all the time. Thank god I actually see it & don’t act all judgmental & critical around other people. I still suffer for it though.

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Rigel said:

How do you make peace with that fact?

Well, it's nothing personal. It's just unconsciousness.

Is a rat bad for being a rat? No. That's just it's level of consciousness and it can't know any better. It's just a survival machine.

Humans are just survival machines and there's nothing personal about it.

Edited Thursday at 06:32 PM by Leo Gura

[Jowblob]

@Leo Gura i had an experience on 4-5 tabs of LSD like 400-600 UG don't remember, i got so conscious that i could focus on my heart and then see it infront of me with eyes closed (the black screen) was gone. I decided to stop it because i knew there was no death, and i got into the nothingness/god head and felt i was there before.

 

Anyway my question is, aren't you afraid that somebody might do it too and in your reality you might view it as them dying(when they actually didn't) . Or do i not understand something?

Edited Thursday at 07:20 PM by Jowblob

[Purple Man]

11 hours ago, Water by the River said:

 

 1/ All of that x/y/z/n+1/Alien/Divine/... consciousness is... temporal imagined arising(s). Even human/Alien/Divine consciousness is not the Absolute Looker/Subject/Reality/Being, but an appearance. Temporal, arising within THAT, and gone a bit later. Watched by WHAT? In WHAT? Made out of WHAT?

 

 2/ THAT which can "forget" or unimagine its realization of what "itself" is anytime... while never not being itself, even if that realization is lost.

Thank you for a magnificient post, as always is the case. 

The first point should be, and it is not for many, obvious. It´s bizarre to watch a movie character saying that he/she has evolved to the point of transcending the movie screen and the film, and that there are other more advanced characters in sci-fi movies that have transcended them even more deeply...It´s a total confusion between the relative and the Absolute, between "Expression" and "Identity".

On the second point, this is such an interesting topic, for which I don´t have an answer yet. I´d like to have your view, if you please: Yes, knowing or ignoring True Self does not interfere with the very fact of being It in any case. But this knowledge or lack of, dramatically affects the quality and enjoyment of a particular body-mind perspective. So, once an "avatar" has understood True Self in his/her present incarnation, does this knowledge necessarily become the solid building foundation for further increasingly developed avatars in future lives? Does this knowledge become the "base camp" for further adventures in incarnated life? 

Edited Thursday at 07:30 PM by Purple Man

[Leo Gura]

54 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

@Leo Gura i had an experience on 4-5 tabs of LSD like 400-600 UG don't remember, i got so conscious that i could focus on my heart and then see it infront of me with eyes closed (the black screen) was gone. I decided to stop it because i knew there was no death, and i got into the nothingness/god head and felt i was there before.

Anyway my question is, aren't you afraid that somebody might do it too and in your reality you might view it as them dying(when they actually didn't) . Or do i not understand something?

LD50 of psychedelics is very high. People do not die from taking a moderate dose of psychedelic. Look up the LD50 for LSD to see how far you were from physical death.

Just because subjectively you felt like death does not mean your body was close to death.

The danger with psychedelics is not death but psychotic breaks.

To actually die from LSD your dose would need be 100x what you took. 500 tabs of LSD.

Edited Thursday at 08:13 PM by Leo Gura

[Cocolove]

A meeting room almost seems like a bad place to do this, like where in a hotel? What if staff comes up. And Indoors, with fluorescent lighting and EMFs. Wouldn't some retreat center a bit outside of the city be better, where people can walk outside after without a jarring environment, without any risk of disturbance.

[Cocolove]

On 10/8/2025 at 0:16 AM, Zen LaCroix said:

Good luck with that. It might take some time for people to get comfortable

We've been watching you on youtube for years. You're at the cutting edge of your field not another random youtube prankster or fitness influencer either

People are flying out and paying a good chunk of money and giving up their time to do this work but also to see you. They may want God-Realization but they're also coming for you. It's just the truth

This is not some Vipassana retreat where Vipassana is the brand. You are the brand

Definitely true but also you can relate to this in a way that he is just an exceptional human in his field, all the massive projection is unnecessary. You can still behave normally and not project a bunch of stuff. For me it just took meeting a few people that I really looked up to to realize they are just normal people + I respect their expertise and excellence in a field I'm interested in, qualities which are universal and also within me

[Adrian colby]

On 03/10/2025 at 0:13 PM, Leo Gura said:

I am not against workshops and seminars. There is much value in them if done right. Ralston does very good workshops, for example.

I do want to teach more in-person. Making videos all the time gets isolating. Too much time spent online is not good.

You’re not the first I’ve heard mentioning intent to go from isolation to human connection in the past few weeks. It’s a theme that seems to be popping up in a lot of circles. ( I like to think the story associated is about the reconnection between people in a time that fragmenting is getting fairly hairy but ‘shadow’ has to come to the surface to be acknowledged, studied, understood, resolved and integrated before humanity can slowly become even a vague bit more conscious)
 

I certainly can relate after a time of doing serious deconstructive work, understanding and having the experience makes the exploration of the ‘dream’ a natural progression from isolation/one to unity/oneness. There’s no point going further if you fragment from others because of a level of understanding that’s so far removed from others. so it’s nice to offer a pathway for genuinely interested parties to come part the way toward you so you yourself have more conscious connection in this experience. 

it is very isolating when no one understands the insights and I’ve personally struggled with my only contact being text on a screen. I guided one of my ‘soul brothers’ to go beyond their idea of god and to remember guided meditations and essays I’d described deconstructing back to simply being aware of awareness. He went all the way back to the source on a DMT trip and our bond has got so deep since, it has nurtured the bonding of the entire group. It’s really beautiful to feel such love for so many different types of people but for the two of us particularly the recognition of the awareness seeing itself in the other and there’s nothing like it.

 

id certainly be interested in retreat for advanced exploration. Sitting in a circle with people not going beyond trauma/conditioning work gets tedious especially holding my tongue when it comes to advanced topics, these people are no way ready for. 
 

it’ll be a bucket list want but more importantly is the in person connection to experience the full communication that just can’t be captured in text or video. 
 

just a question of getting into the States when my type of human is slowly being made illegal. 
 

I think flying into and staying in vegas should be ok in that regard🤔